Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-16 Thread Leon Brooks
On Friday 15 November 2002 05:36 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: If business didn't need multimedia, Windows Media player wouldn't be in Windows 2000 Pro. I agreed with the rest of your post, but `Microsoft thinks you need a thing' is far from sufficient justification for `businesses need this thing'.

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-15 Thread Michael Scherer
Hello? quicktime movie in powerpoint? Do you never give presentations which need animations? Engineering shops need this. I'm sorry, I 'm just a student. And I do presentations, but never so sophisticated. DivX could also be useful in this regard, and I am sure there are business

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-15 Thread Michael Scherer
But the point is to develop a opensource dvd player is not possible, thanks to movie maker. Not impossible, just illegal in some countries. It's legal here (for example). Mmh, when you say some coutry, you speaks of this country just below Canada ? This country who arrest people in some

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-15 Thread Michael Scherer
By talking of university, is the free software situation as bad in my old school ? We only had Windows NT, and some old sparc station. And some students in a engineer school in France were not happy about that situation, ( in their school ). not sure about the hardware, but I know one

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-14 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 14 november 2002 13.08 skrev Faraj Meir: 1 ) to get the register ( easy, these file are well known , system.dat, and user.dat ) No problem 2 ) to read it ( difficult part ), and to get the information on a simple format. 3 ) To found the useful info. Not to difficult,

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-14 Thread andre
On Thursday 14 November 2002 13:17, Oden Eriksson wrote: torsdagen den 14 november 2002 13.08 skrev Faraj Meir: 1 ) to get the register ( easy, these file are well known , system.dat, and user.dat ) No problem 2 ) to read it ( difficult part ), and to get the information on a

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-14 Thread Wim Horst
Op donderdag 14 november 2002 13:08, schreef Guy.Bormann: On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Faraj Meir wrote: Somoen mentinned a tool called tranfugdrake, which do this. After all, it could be a great thing no ? So, what is the point of moving to Linux then, if Windows is so wonderful and Linux

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-14 Thread Michael Scherer
The point is Mandrake wants to make money, therefore they need bigger install base, therefore they need to make windows users transfer to linux, therefore what keeps windows users from using linux, therefore try to imagine what do we need to add or change. If you want to do money, i think it

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Therefore, there is no need for all these fancy multimedia application. Some real businesses need multi-media. We do (animations from simulations). In fact, that's probably one of the big reasons we don't make more use of OpenOffice, and have to use Powerpoint for some presentations. I

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-14 Thread Michael Scherer
actually, flash / quicktime are the best multimedia tools for selling, they make powerpoint presentations look backwards and clunky. the fancy multimedia is where the prospective clients will be wowed into buying your service / product. you put together such a fantastic presentation your

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-13 Thread Faraj Meir
lake of ressources ? We had once the transfugdrake project, aimed at transfering any windows configurations and documents to the linux system, but lack of ressources made it stalled. -- Warly

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Scherer
I think that porting their configuration to linux option is a good thing: like their favorite folder , their mails , mail folders , config... , shortcut to my Document networks setting (adsl connection lan etc)... User that got all thingy better and unchanged a lot would be ported to

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 22:09, Faraj Meir wrote: I know I speak for windows user what do not want to use command line at all and that do not know what is plf (why ask him to know that plf exist , it is not mentionned officially ...) contrib it's hard for a windows user it's just the

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Scherer
On other thing , you can use flash without paying 350 euros to Macromedia, I mean, if you are honest. search : http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=flash+macromediasection=projects Oh, i'm sorry, I didn't reread my mail, i ve said that you can't do flash without paying. And, in fact, it is not

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Wed Nov 13 20:29 -0800, J. Greenlees wrote: reading the configuration files from windows at install of LM isn't as simple as it sounds.. with the weirdness in the different windows versions. and the xp ntfs that isn't read by linux yet. NTFS can be read fine. It can't be written. --

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Scherer
reading the configuration files from windows at install of LM isn't as simple as it sounds.. with the weirdness in the different windows versions. and the xp ntfs that isn't read by linux yet. ntfs is ready on read only, i use it on a daily basis, no problem. I even get it to write one day (

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-11 Thread Leon Brooks
On Monday 11 November 2002 06:43 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: Wim Horst wrote: I didnt succeed with urpmi because you have to tell it where to search for hdlist which is called syntesysblablabla. I am not clearvoyant and didnt know this. And why should i know this. It is something the program

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-09 Thread Greg D.
In a way Mandrake already does this, (Under Recommended). The package choices you have are pretty no brainer. Most of the stuff that people need to have running are alredy marked and if they want something more, it's a simple point and click. Just my 2cents worth. Greg Durre --- Roberto

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-09 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
On Monday 04 November 2002 06:35 pm, Leon Brooks wrote: * ICQ/IRC/AIM/MSN settings - EveryBuddy Or how about to gaim? :-) Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-09 Thread Wim Horst
Op zaterdag 9 november 2002 14:53, schreef Vincent Meyer, MD: On Monday 04 November 2002 06:35 pm, Leon Brooks wrote: * ICQ/IRC/AIM/MSN settings - EveryBuddy Or how about to gaim? :-) Cheers; Leon I know, i know but theres allways missing something. Like showing/setting your nickname,

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-09 Thread J. Greenlees
Michael Holt wrote: Yesterday, J. Greenlees mused: shocked that it isn't all console. ~lol~ (don't want to show them a screenshot of KDE3 yet to much like windows ) lol... yeah kde3 is pretty cool, eh? the ease of use that any gui adds is a huge draw for people that haven't seen

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-08 Thread Michael Holt
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, [ISO-8859-1] Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: you need to raise your children in a proper way; don't want to use linux? Yell at them, if that does'nt work, hit them with a stick;) I just can't wait to get my own children to manipu.. ehhr.. raise :o) hehe... well that

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-08 Thread Michael Holt
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Wim Horst wrote: I am still trying to convince my kids to use linux. They dont buy it. They learned how to use windows and do not want to put much effort in learning how to work with linux. To fool them, programs must resemble those of windows and should not need ( much

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-08 Thread J. Greenlees
Michael Holt wrote: On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Wim Horst wrote: I am still trying to convince my kids to use linux. They dont buy it. They learned how to use windows and do not want to put much effort in learning how to work with linux. To fool them, programs must resemble those of windows and

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Wim Horst
Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson: On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote: Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks: We have most of the technology, we can do it... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233 Question for

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Wim Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson: On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote: Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks: We have most of the technology, we can do it...

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Faraj Meir
easy installation of windows apps using wine + all works made by wine codeweather will be a great... possible to fake up WINE enough that new Windows apps appear automagically in the Mandrake menu system when they're installed? (And disappear when they're uninstalled?) Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Wim Horst
Op donderdag 7 november 2002 09:16, schreef Thomas Backlund: From: Wim Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson: On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote: Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks: We have most of the

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Wim Horst wrote: Op donderdag 7 november 2002 09:16, schreef Thomas Backlund: From: Wim Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson: On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote: Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks:

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 07 November 2002 10:11 pm, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: Wim Horst wrote: ai, ai, ai, urpmi asks for a hdlist, so i searched for something called hdlist. Is this realy as stupid as it sounds? uhhr, how about reading the doc's? if you're going to be involved in cooker you *have* to

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Leon Brooks wrote: On Thursday 07 November 2002 10:11 pm, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: Wim Horst wrote: ai, ai, ai, urpmi asks for a hdlist, so i searched for something called hdlist. Is this realy as stupid as it sounds? uhhr, how about reading the doc's? if you're going to be

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Wim Horst
Op donderdag 7 november 2002 14:11, schreef Per Øyvind Karlsen: Wim Horst wrote: Op donderdag 7 november 2002 09:16, schreef Thomas Backlund: From: Wim Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op woensdag 6 november 2002 20:18, schreef Adam Williamson: On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote: Op

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Michael Holt
I disagree :-) You're here - I'm here - we all got here somehow. I DON'T want to be presented with a 'wizard' interface everywhere I go. Sometimes it's OK for people to have to learn a few things before jumping in the driver's seat - no? I think mandrake has really made some great strides

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Wim Horst
Op donderdag 7 november 2002 17:39, schreef Michael Holt: I disagree :-) You're here - I'm here - we all got here somehow. I DON'T want to be presented with a 'wizard' interface everywhere I go. Sometimes it's OK for people to have to learn a few things before jumping in the driver's seat -

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread J. Greenlees
unfortunately, Wim is right in the attitude for a lot of windows users. most that have switched to linux already are the one's that do read manuals / docs / howtos ecetera. a basic simple install should be designed for the moron level to keep the non reading section from filling lists with

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Wim Horst wrote: Op donderdag 7 november 2002 17:39, schreef Michael Holt: I disagree :-) You're here - I'm here - we all got here somehow. I DON'T want to be presented with a 'wizard' interface everywhere I go. Sometimes it's OK for people to have to learn a few things before jumping in

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-07 Thread Leon Brooks
On Friday 08 November 2002 06:32 am, J. Greenlees wrote: make an install option for windows like use, but never make windows like changes to tool sets. Agree. The pretty GUI brainless stuff should always be layered over the stuff with sharp edges; the sharp tools should always be there, but

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-06 Thread Wim Horst
Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks: We have most of the technology, we can do it... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233 Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem things (e.g. work desktop): What would you like carried across

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote: Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks: We have most of the technology, we can do it... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233 Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem things (e.g. work

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-06 Thread Marcel Pol
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:12:02 + Wim Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks: We have most of the technology, we can do it... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233 Question for those on the list who still use Windows for

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-06 Thread Ben Reser
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:12:02PM +, Wim Horst wrote: easy installation of programs Lets take gstreamer In this list i read something about it. Tryed to install it. Toke me 2 hours because off all the dependencys. Some libs i did not find. I am not a total fool installing this kind of

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-06 Thread paul mccarthy
- Original Message - From: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 21:12, Wim Horst wrote: Op maandag 4 november 2002 23

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 07 November 2002 05:12 am, Wim Horst wrote: Op maandag 4 november 2002 23:35, schreef Leon Brooks: Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem things (e.g. work desktop): What would you like carried across into Linux? easy installation of programs Lets

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-06 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 07 November 2002 07:20 am, paul mccarthy wrote: What would you like carried across into Linux? I always found the OLE feature to be helpful KDE supports that kind of action through KParts, and Gnome through Bonobo, but there is nothing universal. The actual implementation of

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Faraj Meir
* first font are Very Ugly I'd expect to see this fixed well before 9.1 I'm waiting to see this , I will check cooker when it will be supposed to be done ;-) Thanks * lacks of commercial apps that exist only in windows OS Not relevant. I now that you can't do anything about this

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Dienstag, 5. November 2002, 02:41:37 Uhr MET, schrieb Faraj Meir: * good CDRecording tools like Nero (I know that there are a lot but not good and simple as nero) You really like Nero? It's one of those apps for stupid users with wizards where you always have to click on a next button in

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Wouter Lagerweij
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 11:55, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Dienstag, 5. November 2002, 02:41:37 Uhr MET, schrieb Faraj Meir: * good CDRecording tools like Nero (I know that there are a lot but not good and simple as nero) You really like Nero? It's one of those apps for stupid users with wizards

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Dienstag, 5. November 2002, 13:12:13 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne: Actually, I would suggest chucking out some of the cdrecord frontends which really suck in favour of k3b, arson and cdbakeoven, which IMHO are the best currently. xcdroast and gnome-toaster, while they can make a data CD,

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Faraj Meir
You really like Nero? Yep especialy for burning audio CD it is very good on this (fromMP3 etc )

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Faraj Meir
subject). Nero is a very good program (once you tell it _not_ to use those wizards:-) I agree for the wizards I didn't like them , but nero itself is a very good program . I've seen some good suggestion for good equivalents

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 07:40, Faraj Meir wrote: I'd guess this a font issue not a browser issue...Mozilla / Galeon at least seem to be good at rendering non-Roman characters when they actually exist in the font... So it will be good to put good hebrew font , so it will work like in IE

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Faraj Meir
Yep. After writing that email, I tested the page you mentioned with Galeon. I use Arial and Times New Roman as my default fonts, and it loaded and displayed fine - all Hebrew characters, none of those placeholder boxes. Last time I've checked that it doesn't work correctly in konqueror In

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-05 Thread Faraj Meir
I personaly like to see only those I use a lot other if I need I will pass throught the down arow to see them... pick which is the default? I really don't like the Microsoft let's hide the menu from you UI decision. -- adamw I'de like there new programs idea see the windows 2004 screenshot

[Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Leon Brooks
We have most of the technology, we can do it... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233 Question for those on the list who still use Windows for soem things (e.g. work desktop): What would you like carried across into Linux? Mandrake already does TTFs. I haven't used

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Faraj Meir
. With a such option new user will be less out ;-) Hopes it will help;-) Meir Faraj - Original Message - From: Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Cooker list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:35 AM Subject: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tuesday 05 November 2002 08:41 am, Faraj Meir wrote: There is a lot of things Still to do : * first font are Very Ugly I'd expect to see this fixed well before 9.1 * good rootkit integrated scanner (it's equivalent to antivirus for linux) Comes with chkrootkit (don't know if you'd

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 00:41, Faraj Meir wrote: There is a lot of things Still to do : * first font are Very Ugly * Hebrew doesn't apear correctly (squares instead of letters) in all browers for a lot of site example http://ynet.co.il I'd guess this a font issue not a browser

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:35:51AM +0800, Leon Brooks wrote: * ICQ/IRC/AIM/MSN settings - EveryBuddy everybuddy already has an import feature to import ICQ99 contact lists. AIM, MSN and Yahoo stores buddies on the server so it's not a big deal. IRC would be difficult to do since there are so

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tuesday 05 November 2002 09:15 am, Ben Reser wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:35:51AM +0800, Leon Brooks wrote: * ICQ/IRC/AIM/MSN settings - EveryBuddy everybuddy already has an import feature to import ICQ99 contact lists. Yes. The trick is getting this to happen during the install,

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread David Walser
--- Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IRC would be difficult to do since there are so many different IRC clients and the scripts used in them are so different. There are a few very common ones like mIRC that Mandrake could cater for - at least dredge out the bookmark-equivalents

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Joseph Braddock
On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 02:41:37 +0200 Faraj Meir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a lot of things Still to do : * good CDRecording tools like Nero (I know that there are a lot but not good and simple as nero) You might want to take a look at cdbakeoven as a Nero replacement. It appears to

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Faraj Meir
I'd guess this a font issue not a browser issue...Mozilla / Galeon at least seem to be good at rendering non-Roman characters when they actually exist in the font... So it will be good to put good hebrew font , so it will work like in IE for windows . Because , Than I couldn't switch to

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-04 Thread Faraj Meir
I will check it , Thanks . You might want to take a look at cdbakeoven as a Nero replacement. [...] Joeb