--- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 05:50:02 -0800, David Walser
> wrote:
> >> and if one does not want kde but does want
> geramik
> >> theme for its gtk+
> >> apps ?
> >
> > One wouldn't. You need KDE for Geramik, it's
> > dependent on it, and configured through
--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I must admit I have forgotten this case: a multiuser
> machine, where some
> use KDE and others use GNOME. But my argument (it
> invades users who use
> default theme in GNOME) still holds true. Everything
> boils down to the
> scriptlets:
>
> %pos
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 05:50:02 -0800, David Walser wrote:
>> and if one does not want kde but does want geramik
>> theme for its gtk+
>> apps ?
>
> One wouldn't. You need KDE for Geramik, it's
> dependent on it, and configured through it. If one
> wanted a Keramik-like theme for Gtk+ (sans KDE) th
--- Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So you should know that these stupid requires are
> used to mimic what
> > David wants, but not what *I* want.
Requires? We're talking about scripts. They're what
most Geramik users out there want, not just me. And
as far as having to convince
--- Thierry Vignaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Is this possible?
> >
> > The simplest way I can think of is:
> >
> > Requires: kdebase
> > Conflicts: gnome-desktop gnome-session
>
> and if one want both kde and gnome ?
exactly
> and if on
On 2003-01-16(Thu) 09:14:25 +, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So you should know that these stupid requires are used to mimic what
> > David wants, but not what *I* want.
>
> That's simply not true, though. David said that Geramik shouldn't be
> *used* by people who use GNOME, which is perfectly t
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 09:01, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote:
> On 2003-01-16(Thu) 09:14:32 +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> > i have read the above thread and i agree on the stupid scripts
> > destruction but i strongly disagree with these stupid requires as i
> > did use geramik theme even if some think "it'
On 2003-01-16(Thu) 09:14:32 +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> i have read the above thread and i agree on the stupid scripts
> destruction but i strongly disagree with these stupid requires as i
> did use geramik theme even if some think "it's just not another gtk
> theme"
So you should know that th
"R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> His original %post/%postun links /etc/gtk/gtkrc and
> /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc to Geramik theme. This act invades people
> who use default theme on GNOME desktop, and Crozat removed
> his scripts. You can see the earlier thread.
i have read the above threa
On 2003-01-16(Thu) 07:11:43 +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Is this possible?
> >
> > The simplest way I can think of is:
> >
> > Requires: kdebase
> > Conflicts: gnome-desktop gnome-session
>
> and if one want both kde and gnome ?
> and if o
"R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is this possible?
>
> The simplest way I can think of is:
>
> Requires: kdebase
> Conflicts: gnome-desktop gnome-session
and if one want both kde and gnome ?
and if one does not want kde but does want geramik theme for its gtk+
apps ?
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 15:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > I think it's a good thing to package it like any other GTK theme.
> > I understand what you want though. But imo it would only make sense if
> > you select Keramik in Kcontrol and decide to have other apps follow that
> > theme, maybe t
--- "J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - How to generate an enough similar theme to the kde
> one for .gtkrc-kde, and
> in an automated way each time the user changes
> theme...ie, the hard part...
> perhaps a ton of perl can do it.
Generate? Whoa. I bet some Linux company would be
On 2003.01.16 David Walser wrote:
> Interesting. Thanks.
>
> --- "J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think I found a possible solution. Look at
> >
> >
> http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/gtk-Resource-Files.html
> >
> > Let Geramik be a plain gtk theme, and set
> > GTK2_R
Interesting. Thanks.
--- "J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I found a possible solution. Look at
>
>
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/gtk-Resource-Files.html
>
> Let Geramik be a plain gtk theme, and set
> GTK2_RC_FILES for the user.
> Perhaps it can be set like
> GT
On 2003.01.16 David Walser wrote:
> --- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2003-01-15(Wed) 10:57:06 -0800, David Walser
> > wrote:
> > > > That means you need to make Geramik cope with
> > > > people's
> > > > change in behavoir.
> > >
> > > Still doesn't make sense. I'll agree w
--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2003-01-15(Wed) 10:57:06 -0800, David Walser
> wrote:
> > > That means you need to make Geramik cope with
> > > people's
> > > change in behavoir.
> >
> > Still doesn't make sense. I'll agree with one
> point
> > you've made...if there were a w
On 2003-01-15(Wed) 10:57:06 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> > That means you need to make Geramik cope with
> > people's
> > change in behavoir.
>
> Still doesn't make sense. I'll agree with one point
> you've made...if there were a way to have it install
> itself by default, but only activate for u
--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2003-01-14(Tue) 16:48:46 -0800, David Walser
> wrote:
> > > Now I see the point. Geramik is trying to do
> what
> > > Bluecurve did, right?
> >
> > Basically. More specifically, the color, font,
> and
> > related settings that you configure for
On 2003-01-14(Tue) 16:48:46 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> > Now I see the point. Geramik is trying to do what
> > Bluecurve did, right?
>
> Basically. More specifically, the color, font, and
> related settings that you configure for Keramik in KDE
> Control Center are what Geramik uses, rather tha
> I think it's a good thing to package it like any other GTK theme.
> I understand what you want though. But imo it would only make sense if you
> select Keramik in Kcontrol and decide to have other apps follow that theme,
> maybe then it should setup Geramik as default GTK theme. Not when simply
>
--- Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's for KDE users, and only for KDE users. He
> > shouldn't be messing with it. Anyway it's
> contrib, I
> > don't see why he can't just ignore it.
>
> I don't run KDE, but I do use Geramik. Do you
> suggest I quit using it right
> away?
Yes. God
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:49:23 -0800 (PST)
David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It most certainly falls under Fred's purview. No
> > matter how many times
> > you repeat to yourself that it is not a GTK theme,
> > the simple fact
> > remains: it i
--- Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It most certainly falls under Fred's purview. No
> matter how many times
> you repeat to yourself that it is not a GTK theme,
> the simple fact
> remains: it is. If it looks like a ducks, waddles
> like a duck, and
> quacks like a duck...
It's for KDE
On Tue Jan 14 16:48 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> If they don't want it (I'd want to hear this from
> Laurent first, as it's really for KDE users. Crozat
> is the Gnome guy and he really has no business messing
> with it), then they should delete it from contrib, and
> probably additionally configu
--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2003-01-14(Tue) 07:11:34 -0800, David Walser
> wrote:
> > --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > This is right.. Theme packages should not screw
> up
> > > default theme.. There
> > > is no point for discussion on that..
> >
> >
On 2003-01-14(Tue) 07:11:34 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is right.. Theme packages should not screw up
> > default theme.. There
> > is no point for discussion on that..
>
> Geramik is not a normal theme. The only useful
> purpose it serves
--- "J.A. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That idea is totally broken. Geramik is just another
> theme. I said this
> some time ago.
No it is not. You are misunderstand what it's for.
Also, I didn't ignore your complaints from before, I
made a change so that if you deleted the gtkrcs, it
This is because it needed to be recompiled.
--- "francesco.melo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> the problem is that with germaik installed i can't
> enter on gnome so now
> i can set it like deafult so i can't use it for
> mandrake tools :
>
> hi francesco
>
>
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--- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:53:04 -0800, David Walser
> wrote:
>
> > --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> BlueCurve doesn't do such a mess as Geramik
> >> package..
> >
> > What mess? Be specific!
>
> The kind of mess I fixed ie becom
On 2003.01.14 David Walser wrote:
> --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is right.. Theme packages should not screw up
> > default theme.. There
> > is no point for discussion on that..
>
> Geramik is not a normal theme. The only useful
> purpose it serves is being the default
Frederic Crozat wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:53:04 -0800, David Walser wrote:
--- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
BlueCurve doesn't do such a mess as Geramik
package..
What mess? Be specific!
The kind of mess I fixed ie becoming the default theme for all users a
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:53:04 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> BlueCurve doesn't do such a mess as Geramik
>> package..
>
> What mess? Be specific!
The kind of mess I fixed ie becoming the default theme for all users and
all environment on the system
--- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BlueCurve doesn't do such a mess as Geramik
> package..
What mess? Be specific!
> It is not broken, it is now behaving as a theme
> package should behave..
Don't treat it like a regular Gtk+ theme package.
That's not what it is!!!
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:16:32 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> --- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > The idea is if you install this you *want* that.
>> BUT,
>> ^^^
>> *THIS* idea is broken in this case. How many people
>> will
>> install *o
--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The idea is if you install this you *want* that.
> BUT,
> ^^^
> *THIS* idea is broken in this case. How many people
> will
> install *only* 1 theme? Generally people install
> many
> themes, and switc
--- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is right.. Theme packages should not screw up
> default theme.. There
> is no point for discussion on that..
Geramik is not a normal theme. The only useful
purpose it serves is being the default theme,
alongside KDE's default Keramik theme. L
On 2003-01-14(Tue) 06:33:17 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> > I think that this is not only broken, but *abusive*
> > too. Theme is a
> > per-user setting, why is it trying to make itself as
> > a global theme by
> > default?
>
> The idea is if you install this you *want* that. BUT,
^^
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> On 2003-01-14(Tue) 05:17:05 -0800, David Walser wrote:
>> --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTE
--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2003-01-14(Tue) 05:17:05 -0800, David Walser
> wrote:
> > --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Name: Geramik
> > > Version : 0.17
> > > * Tue Jan 14 2003 Frederic Cro
On 2003-01-14(Tue) 05:17:05 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Name: Geramik
> > Version : 0.17
> > * Tue Jan 14 2003 Frederic Crozat
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.17-2mdk
> >
> > - Drop the gtkr
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