David Walser wrote:
Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
This seems to be a thing for samba with acl. If you are using ext3 or
xfs you can simply change/add acls to the files and directorys and you
can give permissions similar to windows nt (a group/person can read,
others can write and others can
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Am Dienstag, 11. Februar 2003 20:28 schrieb Brook Humphrey:
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:43 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
It has a pop(s) and imap(s) server buildin and it can do a sort of
virtual hosting, but that is the job of the mta. cyrus
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Am Dienstag, 11. Februar 2003 19:59 schrieb Oden Eriksson:
tisdagen den 11 februari 2003 07.46 skrev Martin Fahrendorf:
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onsdagen den 12 februari 2003 12.00 skrev Martin Fahrendorf:
However I won't touch this software as I'm happy with bincimap and
courier-imap.
Yes, of course courier is a great pice of software. But if you ever need
multiple shared folder in your imap system (like in our firma, where every
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Am Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2003 12:06 schrieb Oden Eriksson:
onsdagen den 12 februari 2003 12.00 skrev Martin Fahrendorf:
However I won't touch this software as I'm happy with bincimap and
courier-imap.
Yes, of course courier is a great pice
onsdagen den 12 februari 2003 13.32 skrev Martin Fahrendorf:
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Am Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2003 12:06 schrieb Oden Eriksson:
onsdagen den 12 februari 2003 12.00 skrev Martin Fahrendorf:
However I won't touch this software as I'm happy with
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 02:58 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
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Am Dienstag, 11. Februar 2003 20:28 schrieb Brook Humphrey:
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:43 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
It has a pop(s) and imap(s) server buildin and it can
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Am Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2003 15:27 schrieb Brook Humphrey:
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 02:58 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
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Am Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2003 04:28 schrieb David Walser:
Interesting. What exactly can you *do* with such shared e-mail folders?
You can give your friend read access to one of your subfolders but they don't
cann add mails or folders. you can
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:46 pm, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
Not realy. The database only holds redundant information of the mailheader.
The E-Mail ist stored almost unchanged as plain text file (one mail in one
file - similar to maildir). the loss of mail is nealy impossible (assuming
a
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Am Dienstag, 11. Februar 2003 15:47 schrieb Brook Humphrey:
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:46 pm, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
Not realy. The database only holds redundant information of the
mailheader. The E-Mail ist stored almost unchanged as plain
tisdagen den 11 februari 2003 07.46 skrev Martin Fahrendorf:
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måndagen den 10 februari 2003 20.00 skrev Luca Olivetti:
David Walser wrote:
From what I read, it looks like Cyrus does
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 08:43 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
It has a pop(s) and imap(s) server buildin and it can do a sort of virtual
hosting, but that is the job of the mta. cyrus is not a mta, it is a mail
storage system. cyrus can authenticate against ldap, mysql and other stuff
via
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From: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Maildir-1.0-1mdk
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[...]
http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-01/msg04580.php
Wierd. Never even saw that message.
yeah, cooker is somewhat ill :-/
Ok, yes, you have valid points. So we have to patch these programs to
make the maildirs then. I suppose
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone mentioned a similar patch for uw-imap?, but that means one needs to
first patch it to recongnize Maildir, and then also make the dir. Can't we
just move courier-imap to main and move uw-imap to contribs and have postfix
deliver to Maildirs for
måndagen den 10 februari 2003 15.27 skrev Chmouel Boudjnah:
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone mentioned a similar patch for uw-imap?, but that means one needs
to first patch it to recongnize Maildir, and then also make the dir.
Can't we just move courier-imap to main and move
On Monday 10 February 2003 09:27 am, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone mentioned a similar patch for uw-imap?, but that means one needs
to first patch it to recongnize Maildir, and then also make the dir.
Can't we just move courier-imap to main and move
On Monday 10 February 2003 04:43 am, Oden Eriksson wrote:
Someone mentioned a similar patch for uw-imap?, but that means one needs to
first patch it to recongnize Maildir, and then also make the dir. Can't we
just move courier-imap to main and move uw-imap to contribs and have
postfix deliver
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone mentioned a similar patch for uw-imap?, but that means one needs to
first patch it to recongnize Maildir, and then also make the dir. Can't we
just move courier-imap to main and move
From http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/imapd/
IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) is an Internet standards-track
protocol for accessing messages (mail, bboards, news, etc). The Cyrus IMAP
server differs from other IMAP server implementations in that it is generally
intended to be run on sealed
On Monday 10 February 2003 08:09 am, David Walser wrote:
Ok, I'll reiterate myself (in one place) from earlier, with a CC to Florin:
Why can't Cyrus-IMAP become our default IMAP server? It has that SIEVE
server-side filtering stuff that no other IMAP server has. That would
be really sweet
On Monday 10 February 2003 08:32 am, David Walser wrote:
Interesting point, I hadn't thought of that.
Well, I think last time I tested courier was last Spring, so if I get
time I'll test it again and see if the problems I had before have been
resolved. It's too bad Courier doesn't support
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok, I'll reiterate myself (in one place) from earlier, with a CC to Florin:
Why can't Cyrus-IMAP become our default IMAP server? It has that SIEVE
server-side filtering stuff that no other IMAP server has. That would be
really sweet for Mandrake.
On Mon Feb 10, 2003 at 01:43:35PM +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:
[...]
So..., both bincimap and courier-imap can make the freaking Maildir on
successfull login now, but please do test it (Vincent Danen and Buchan
Milne), I haven't done much serious testing yet.
If I have a chance, I'll test
David Walser wrote:
Why can't Cyrus-IMAP become our default IMAP server? It has that SIEVE
server-side filtering stuff that no other IMAP server has. That would
be really sweet for Mandrake. I'd even have the SquirrelMail package
configured to use it by default. I worry about switching to
tarvid wrote:
From http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/imapd/
IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) is an Internet standards-track
protocol for accessing messages (mail, bboards, news, etc). The Cyrus IMAP
server differs from other IMAP server implementations in that it is generally
intended to be
måndagen den 10 februari 2003 18.37 skrev David Walser:
Brook Humphrey wrote:
On Monday 10 February 2003 08:32 am, David Walser wrote:
Interesting point, I hadn't thought of that.
Well, I think last time I tested courier was last Spring, so if I get
time I'll test it again and see if the
David Walser wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but what is SIEVE?
It's a scripting thing, you can do a lot of things with it, but it's
main use is server-side filtering of e-mails. Currently with any other
IMAP server, say you have some folders, and you want to filter some
mails into the
Brook Humphrey wrote:
Really how many at the club know the difference? How many use it for work?
Home users tinkering really does not count for anything that need to handle
high volume.
well, I don't manage a high volume mail server with cyrus (only 50 users
and 6Gbytes worth of email), but
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:11 am, Luca Olivetti wrote:
David Walser wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but what is SIEVE?
It's a scripting thing, you can do a lot of things with it, but it's
main use is server-side filtering of e-mails. Currently with any other
IMAP server, say you have
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:43 am, David Walser wrote:
From what I read, it looks like Cyrus does use Maildirs, it just
doesn't store them in /home/$user
Why not. It's much better for quotas and whatnot.
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David Walser wrote:
Well, it may be *possible* to replicate some of that functionality with
courier, but is it easy is a question. You can configure SIEVE through
webmail or real e-mail clients, and it's standardized through the IETF.
Yep, rfc3028 (I thought it was still a draft).
Some
David Walser wrote:
From what I read, it looks like Cyrus does use Maildirs, it just
doesn't store them in /home/$user
No it doesn't, it has its own message store (one file per message and
the metadata is stored in various databases).
The phisical format of the mailstore doesn't matter
Brook Humphrey wrote:
On Monday 10 February 2003 10:43 am, David Walser wrote:
From what I read, it looks like Cyrus does use Maildirs, it just
doesn't store them in /home/$user
Why not. It's much better for quotas and whatnot.
Why?
Maildir has many strength, but I don't think this is one
On Monday 10 February 2003 11:00 am, Luca Olivetti wrote:
David Walser wrote:
From what I read, it looks like Cyrus does use Maildirs, it just
doesn't store them in /home/$user
No it doesn't, it has its own message store (one file per message and
the metadata is stored in various
måndagen den 10 februari 2003 20.00 skrev Luca Olivetti:
David Walser wrote:
From what I read, it looks like Cyrus does use Maildirs, it just
doesn't store them in /home/$user
No it doesn't, it has its own message store (one file per message and
the metadata is stored in various
Brook Humphrey wrote:
The phisical format of the mailstore doesn't matter though, you're
supposed to access it only through imap.
Bye
Yes in my case then it is useless. At the very least it needs to run with a
pop server also.
Of course it also has a pop server if you prefer that
Oden Eriksson wrote:
Hmmm, this is sounding more and more like MS exchange, as easy to mess up...
Except it's RFC compliant and open source.
Bye
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Oden Eriksson wrote on Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 01:43:35PM +0100 :
So..., both bincimap and courier-imap can make the freaking Maildir on
successfull login now, but please do test it (Vincent Danen and Buchan
Milne), I haven't done much serious
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Walser) writes:
Florin wrote:
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok, I'll reiterate myself (in one place) from earlier, with a CC to Florin:
Why can't Cyrus-IMAP become our default IMAP server? It has that SIEVE
server-side filtering stuff that no other
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Walser) writes:
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone mentioned a similar patch for uw-imap?, but that means one needs to
first patch it to recongnize Maildir, and then also make the dir. Can't we
just move courier-imap to
tisdagen den 11 februari 2003 01.00 skrev Todd Lyons:
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Oden Eriksson wrote on Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 01:43:35PM +0100 :
So..., both bincimap and courier-imap can make the freaking Maildir on
successfull login now, but please do test it (Vincent
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Am Montag, 10. Februar 2003 20:21 schrieb Oden Eriksson:
måndagen den 10 februari 2003 20.00 skrev Luca Olivetti:
David Walser wrote:
From what I read, it looks like Cyrus does use Maildirs, it just
doesn't store them in /home/$user
No
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:
Not sure I understand are you saying when samba creates and account it does
not use skel for setting up the home directory?
No, it uses /etc/skel, but since accounts are auto-created, it is feasible
that thousands of accounts could be created before
On Sunday 09 February 2003 04:56 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:
Not sure I understand are you saying when samba creates and account it
does not use skel for setting up the home directory?
No, it uses /etc/skel, but since accounts are auto-created, it is
söndagen den 9 februari 2003 18.51 skrev Brook Humphrey:
On Sunday 09 February 2003 04:56 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:
Not sure I understand are you saying when samba creates and account it
does not use skel for setting up the home directory?
No,
On Sunday 09 February 2003 11:14 am, Oden Eriksson wrote:
söndagen den 9 februari 2003 18.51 skrev Brook Humphrey:
On Sunday 09 February 2003 04:56 am, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Brook Humphrey wrote:
Not sure I understand are you saying when samba creates and account
it
On Friday 07 February 2003 04:20 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
Brook Humphrey wrote:
On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:19 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
IMHO, /etc/skel/Maildir belongs in etcskel.
Buchan
I'm not sure what you mean by this but on my systems that Iset up for
clients this is exactly
Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a dumb way to do things. If it can't go into etcskel, then
each Maildir aware application should attempt to make the entry to
/etc/skel.
Actually, if postfix did this, it would be enough. Chances are, if
--- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we must remove uw-imap and replace it by
courier-imap.
who is against ??
/me raises hand.
See my other messages.
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fredagen den 7 februari 2003 12.01 skrev Warly:
Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a dumb way to do things. If it can't go into etcskel, then
each Maildir aware application should attempt to make the entry to
/etc/skel.
Actually, if
On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:19 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
IMHO, /etc/skel/Maildir belongs in etcskel.
Buchan
I'm not sure what you mean by this but on my systems that Iset up for clients
this is exactly how I get maildirs all over the place. It works wonderfully.
I even used to have a
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
--- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
we must remove uw-imap and replace it by
courier-imap.
who is against ??
/me raises hand.
What are the technical reasons why we should do that?
(sorry if it has been discussed before)
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Warly
Brook Humphrey wrote:
On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:19 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
IMHO, /etc/skel/Maildir belongs in etcskel.
Buchan
I'm not sure what you mean by this but on my systems that Iset up for clients
this is exactly how I get maildirs all over the place. It works wonderfully.
torsdagen den 6 februari 2003 19.06 skrev Vincent Danen:
On Thu Feb 06, 2003 at 05:45:31AM +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:
[Contrib-RPM]
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Name: Maildir Relocations: (not
relocateable) Version : 1.0 Vendor:
MandrakeSoft
On Thu Feb 06, 2003 at 08:32:56PM +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:
[...]
* Thu Feb 06 2003 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.0-1mdk
- initial cooker contrib
This is a dumb way to do things. If it can't go into etcskel, then
each Maildir aware application should attempt to make the
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a dumb way to do things.
I would prefer it if you would formulate in a non-insultive way. Or
just leave it away al together.
If it can't go into etcskel, then each Maildir aware application
should attempt to make the entry to /etc/skel.
torsdagen den 6 februari 2003 21.18 skrev Pixel:
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a dumb way to do things. If it can't go into etcskel, then
each Maildir aware application should attempt to make the entry to
/etc/skel.
Actually, if postfix did this, it would be
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Vincent Danen wrote:
This is a dumb way to do things. If it can't go into etcskel, then
each Maildir aware application should attempt to make the entry to
/etc/skel.
And how are you going to make the maildir? Until now maildirmake was in
courier, and courier and binc
On Thu Feb 06, 2003 at 10:39:32PM +0100, Han Boetes wrote:
This is a dumb way to do things.
I would prefer it if you would formulate in a non-insultive way. Or
just leave it away al together.
Sorry. I must be used to the hostile attitude of this list and
subliminally do as many others do.
On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 12:05:58AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
This is a dumb way to do things. If it can't go into etcskel, then
each Maildir aware application should attempt to make the entry to
/etc/skel.
And how are you going to make the maildir? Until now maildirmake was in
Vincent Danen wrote:
Making postfix add the pertinent dirs to /etc/skel is far more
efficient than requiring yet another dependency and yet another
package.
What if one is using postfix but doesn't want to use/doesn't need
maildir? (me, for example, in fact I even find annoying that
On Thu Feb 06, 2003 at 11:36:00PM +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:
[...]
I'm tired of debating this. I presented a simple workaround to ease
future strain on the support department. No one at MandrakeSoft will ever
fix this permantly, it's a totally ignored issue. I thought you, of all
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Han Boetes wrote:
Howbout making an rpm for safecat with the inclusion of this script ( or
something more extensive ;)
#!/bin/sh
mkdir -p $1/{cur,new,tmp} chmod -R 700 $1
ummm.. why not just use maildirmake? It does the same thing.
Because
--- Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But postfix is by default ocnfigured for mbox, and
it doesn't seem
reasonable to configure for Maildir by default,
since the only IMAP server
in main doesn't do Maildir.
Well, the imap server in main is junk anyways. We
got rid of wu-ftpd
Buchan Milne wrote:
But postfix is by default ocnfigured for mbox, and it doesn't seem
reasonable to configure for Maildir by default, since the only IMAP server
in main doesn't do Maildir.
postfix is configured by default to let procmail do the job. and
procmail is configured to mbox by
Pixel wrote:
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a dumb way to do things. If it can't go into etcskel, then
each Maildir aware application should attempt to make the entry to
/etc/skel.
Actually, if postfix did this, it would be enough. Chances are, if
someone is going to use
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Vincent Danen wrote:
No, wait... these are IMAP clients. Now here's a problem...
courier-imap doesn't deliver mail. Do we do the mkdir() when they
check for POP3 mail? So what happens to the mail before they do a POP3
check? Where does it go if no Maildir.
I guess we
Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is a dumb way to do things. If it can't go into etcskel, then
each Maildir aware application should attempt to make the entry to
/etc/skel.
Actually, if postfix did this, it would be enough. Chances are, if
someone is going to use
On Thu Feb 06, 2003 at 09:18:33PM +0100, Pixel wrote:
[...]
I'm tired of debating this. I presented a simple workaround to ease future
strain on the support department. No one at MandrakeSoft will ever fix this
permantly, it's a totally ignored issue. I thought you, of all would
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