-rebuild of the src.rpms or set
rpm-rebuilder and rebuild the whole lot.
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> > Couple of ways. 1) Use your existing ISO files, put them on another
> > Linux machine or a partition on the same machine (VFAT or ext2).
> > Then replace (...) 2) Get the who
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 April 2003 02:52, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> > You would have to setup an install image on HD or another machine
> > using the tree from the mirrors, where it's been fixed. Otherwise
> > install-text.
ge is quite old - July 2002, so surely you have the same version
as I do.
One thing I did notice:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] SOURCES]$ /sbin/fsck.xfs /dev/hda11
Comes back empty. /dev/hda11 is ext3. Are you sure hda4 is xfs? Diskdrake
should tell you what it thinks it is.
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/mnt/disk/export:
cd /mnt/disk/export/misc
./mkcd_ppc.pl /mnt/disk/export /mnt/disk
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> > install-gui-old was broken on RC1. That's the workaround for r128.
>
> So how do I install in GUI-mode (if possible)?
>
You would have to setup an install image on HD or
on a Pismo? Anyone succeded in getting RC1
> running on a Pismo? Rage 128bob. i guess.
>
> -j
>
>
install-gui-old was broken on RC1. That's the workaround for r128.
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/dev/hda13 is mounted.
WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.
Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no
check aborted.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -qf `which fsck`
e2fsprogs-1.32-2mdk
Maybe missing libext2fs2, and libxfs1?
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> hi,
>
> ibook2 ati radeon mobility, XFree86 _with_ DRI solved by using latest
> XFree86-4.3-5mdk.
>
> regards.
> alex
>
Holy smokes, why weren't you using it before? It was built over 2 weeks
ago. Not on the
about gnome-linuxconf?
Again, that app was fully on-screen here at 1024x768. At any rate, I don't
believe any of this is PPC specific.
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will be too late I think. You could hack the ntpd initscript to
run it before the daemon. rc.sysinit is probably too early.
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0:20;
fixed-address 192.168.192.33;
}
host presariow {
# wireless setup
hardware ethernet 00:06:25:0b:97:97;
fixed-address 192.168.192.33;
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That's it - more of the above for different machines.
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clock defaults to 1956, which is obviously wrong. I just
> need the computer to get the correct time when it boots and maybe sync it every once
> in a while.
>
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0x04463138' failed.
> Aborted (core dumped)
>
> this disables me from using the nice mdk rpm management. anyone an idea how to fix
> it?
>
> regards
> alex
>
Clear the urpmi cache.
rm -f /var/lib/urpmi/*
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g on. Ctl-Alt-Backspace should be able
to kill X.
This is now a clean re-install after your xfs issue, of RC1?
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tributions, but no-one noticed. Thanks for the report Walt!
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Minor change - added OSX mode to menus:
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/mol-0.9.68-5mdk.ppc.rpm
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/mol-0.9.68-5mdk.src.rpm
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mol-kmods look like they can remain as is.
Feedback welcome.
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e does not
have that exclusion in the description, although we are still working
through apparently Mandrake specific issues with MOL and OSX.
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this up for me, that would be great.
>
>
Yes, they are completely different "products". There is no combined
x86/ppc disk set.
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t know if it would have worked with your
> kmods (and I'm not in Linux right now to test it).
>
I think I ansered my own question. I rebuilt just mol using the
referenced tarball, as an rpm. Same problem here.
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Cheers,
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pretty sure that's the same place I downloaded from, but apparently
there must be multiple 0.9.68 releases. I'll do an update. Did you only
update mol, not mol-kmods?
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;application/x-karbon' got 2 offers!
xlib_rgb_init: compiled for little endian, but this is a big endian
machine.
Looks like this app needs some help.
> no 3d acceleration for games. Tuxracer, armagetron slow machine to a
> crawl.
>
XFree. Radeon support doesn't offer
ruption from
the Mandrake'd BenH kernel, would be to use a pure BenH code:
cd /usr/src
mkdir linux
rsync -avz rsync.penguinppc.org::linux-2.4-benh linux
Then build mol/kmods up using that, and a clean kernel.
You're still stuck with our gcc and libs, but by the time you strip
those away y
not even need to build it, -bp may be
enough to drop the tree in BUILD for mol*)
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y:
touch /forcefsck
And reboot, and see if you can respond to the "y" prompt.
Or just try touching the "y" key during early boot and see if you get the
correct output.
> -Bounty
>
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Stew Be
#x27;s RPM, but it uses an older libpng.
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pported by C library
> at
> > /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm line 310.
>
> I have tried the following:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] pefl]# LC_ALL=en_US
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] pefl]# export LC_ALL
>
Something is wrong with your locales, it looks like. A workaround is:
export LC_ALL=c
Sort of odd it would just start happening.
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Pozsar Balazs wrote:
> >
> > > I have a 2002 powerbook with the ati radeon 7500 mobility. I still get
> > > very weird effects on the screen wh
stem in burning it?
try to boot directly from OF
boot cd:2,\\yaboot
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> Is there another way to execute mandrake control center?
> I am using GNOME and it is not responding after double-click.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Pablo
>
drakconf from a terminal, or it should
oot command, the installer won't
> work properly (it complains about the FS being read only)
>
Just "text" - not "intall-text"
> Any ideas ?
>
>
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he mol-kmods-benh should build against that. That is
how I've been doing it, since I'm not shipping kernel-benh source or
headers. All the appropriate srpms should be on my web space.
If you do make any progress with the OS/X keyboard issue, I'd like to hear
about it. I don't h
ave no chanche to
> choose 1280x854 for video resolution!
>
> I think I have to wait for final 9.1, when XF86Config-4
> should list the correct resolution for my monitor..
> or switch to YDL 3.
>
XFdrake doesn't offer 1280x854? This is a function of ldetect-lst, whic
Could I provide any useful info to get this working?
>
> --
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> >> configuration for my resolution (1280x854).
> >> Anyone managed to install Mandrake 9 RC1 on a PB G4 with Superdrive?
> >>
> >
> > Interesting, since install-gui uses the same modelines as the installed
> > Xconfig, or should. What happens when
for Webmin? ;)
>
Don't need netatalk to see an HFS partition, just mount it somewhere.
mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/disk -t hfs
There is a netatalk rpm, was well as a webmin module, if I remember
correctly.
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ons of MacOS can also print directly to lpd print
servers, which I believe cups more or less still emulates, along with it's
new capablilities. I'm not finding where that's buried in my OS9.2 install
at the moment. Maybe someone else has some other suggestions?
HTH,
Stew Be
1 on a PB G4 with Superdrive?
>
Interesting, since install-gui uses the same modelines as the installed
Xconfig, or should. What happens when you run X in the installed system?
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%changelog
* Wed Mar 19 2003 Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.4.20-9mdk
- ptrace security fix (patch112)
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/kernel-benh-2.4.20-9mdk.ppc.rpm
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/kernel-benh-smp-2.4.20-9mdk.ppc.rp
ugh the archives and
> tried another person's suggestion for the XFconfig-4 file but it didn't fly
> as well. Any tips about how to trouble shoot this one? I have little
> experience trouble-shooting X.
>
> TIA,
>
> Todd Rossman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Bob Sams
>
Can't say I've ever heard of such a thing. Networking is independant of
the GUI. I can't imagine why it would work in a terminal but not for an
app. If ifconfig and route look good, as well as DNS entries in
/etc/resolv.cf, then I can't think of anyt
Upgrade installs take much longer than a fresh install, generally.
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homebrew rsync
to upload everything to Paris that I have that wasn't there, since I can't
directly place files in the repository. Of course the bulk of it was
rejected.
Anyway, libtool is up on my webspace now too.
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/mnt/disk/export/Mandrake/RPMS/gtkam-0.1.10-2mdk.ppc.rpm | grep exif
libexif8
libexif-gtk4
libexif-gtk.so.4
libexif.so.8
I'll throw gtkam on my web space.
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what you were looking for.
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> To: "cooker-ppc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige
>
>
> Stew Benedict ha scritto:
>
> >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> &g
; Can I test RC1 with XFree86 with only CD1?
>
Yes.
> Are there (micro$oft, sorry) download tools which can resume a
> broken download from the Mandrake mirrors? Which are recommended?
>
Sure, don't know them offhand, but there are some out there I believe.
Stew Benedict
rom GNOME to KDE? Via control center? logged as root?
>
I believe there is an option in MCC. You can also use runlevel 5 (telinit
5, as root), and login graphically and pick a desktop environment.
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image? I net boot the iMac all the time install testing, but I know some
newer machines have some issues with the technique I outlined.
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Did you use kernel22 the first time? This is right at the start of
stage2? If so, I doubt it's your hard drive, as the installer isn't even
looking at it yet at that point.
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dy got the ISO, why not just burn it to CD? It's not
a bad idea though, just adds a bit more to the stage1 installer.
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en able to install from hfs, afaik. I was able to CD install
on a 7600, after loading mesh.
> - no kernel recognize the ext3 partition for the same purpose
>
Correct, stage1 only has ext2 support.
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2003 Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.4.20-8mdk
- Ben's new ATI sleep code (patch52), still -ben8
Finally almost caught up on the "frozen" rpm building, some stuff going up
now, that's been built from 11-15th.
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defaults to the newest kernel, the mandrake one in this case. This is a
neweer stage2 than what I put up on my space, but should agree with the
mirrors, if the stuff I rsynced made it there.
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e, I hadn't
updated that yet, so you need a kernel and stage1 from /boot.
Simply a module missing would just give an error on the specific module.
The usb stuff is x86 crap that insists on loading some kind of usb driver,
even though it's built into the PPC kernel. (Sort of sucks if it&#x
isn't associated with a registered domain name, I might expect
to see that in a mail header. I don't believe you need to worry about a
security issue with it, but having a firewall and staying on top of
security updates is advised.
> Thanks in advance
>
> Pablo
raphical installer. Text
install should be OK. Apps should be fine, as long as you don't expect to
do a lot with KDE or Gnome. They aren't terribly fast on my machines,
with quite a bit more RAM.
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I
how to be sure.
>
> Thank you,
>
The fsck that put the files in lost+found should have taken care of it for
you. You could force another fsck at reboot by:
touch /forcefsck
You can verify your rpm packages with rpm -Va (this will take a while, and
some config files showing up as
l space (wonder if I have a limit there?)
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On 11 Mar 2003, Bob Sloots wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 15:48, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> > I don't specify devfs at all for install. I'm using a non-mac monitor
> > (MAG), so MacOS insists it can only do 640x480 (no driver for the monitor,
> > what crap!).
On my web space:
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/all.gz
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/all-benh.gz
same kernel versions as RC1
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On 11 Mar 2003, Bob Sloots wrote:
> Stew,
>
> Installing mol-0.9.68-1mdk I get some warnings about user/group stew not
> existing (root used)
>
Woops! - updating now:
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/mol-0.9.68-2mdk.ppc.rpm
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-
On 11 Mar 2003, Bob Sloots wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 13:59, Bob Sloots wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 12:26, Stew Benedict wrote:
> > > On 11 Mar 2003, Bob Sloots wrote:
> > >
> > > > Stew,
> > > >
> > > > I tried an instal
://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/kernel-benh-2.4.20-7mdk.src.rpm
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/mol-kmods-benh-0.9.68-1mdk.src.rpm
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New rescue image to my web space. Disabled LILO, rebuilt with the right
kernel modules, fixed /dev/initctl so you can shut the machine down.
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/rescue_stage2.bz2
Test if you can, there may not be any additional RC's.
Stew Ben
I left your modeline out of RC1:
ModeLine "1280x854" 79.816 1280 1296 1408 1536 854 855 858 866
-hsync -vsync
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t; Does the included version of Xfree in RC1 (9.1) include a driver for
> the Radeon 7500 mobility (M7 variant)?
>
It's hard to say, I see a new XFree go by here every couple days.
I know certain radeon are problematic on x86 too.
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ause.
> I'll try to install the benh-6 kernel after boot with benh-5 kernel (and
> missing modules).
>
I'll throw the correct benh kernel on my web space.
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On 11 Mar 2003, Bob Sloots wrote:
> Stew,
>
> Here's what I get doing my daily urpmi --auto-select:
>
> Installation failed:
> libarts == 1.1.0-2mdk is needed by arts-1.1.0-2mdk
>
> Bob.
>
>
To my web space now.
Stew Benedict
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http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/mol-0.9.68-1mdk.ppc.rpm
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/mol-kmods-0.9.68-1mdk.ppc.rpm
benh kmods to follow
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force-fbdev is just an optional argument:
install-gui force-fbdev
Thanks,
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gui-old is fixed and force-fbdev option is available and tested, I'll
rysnc the installer to the mirrors in a bit
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/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3/liblinux-atm1-2.4.0-2mdk.ppc.rpm
/mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3/liblinux-atm1-2.4.0-2mdk.ppc.rpm
Usually the drak tools will try to install needed packages.
> finally on the way to a useable system =D thanks for this. if there are
> stuff you want to see from my sys
, and xtest used by the drak tools is
required, yet it doesn't get installed.
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On 10 Mar 2003, Bob Sloots wrote:
> Did you specify kernel-options "root=/dev/ram3" and "ramdisk_size=36000"
> (after selecting the right kernel & initrd)?
>
ramdisk_size now needs to be 4 or so, to get prompted for additional
CDs
Stew Benedict
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KLA-24320
> * IDE/0: hdc is a MATSHITA CR-174
> * looking for scsi media
> * looking for Compaq Smart Array media
> * looking for DAC960
> * /dev/hdc: Read-only file system
> * could not create required device file
>
How did you boot the install? The "Read-only file system" i
a user is also probably a missing package. Try running it from the
console or a terminal and see if you can see the error messages.
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dependant
on the order you use drakgw, drakconnect? You might peruse the bugzilla
entries on the topic.
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". Either X runs, or you drop back to the console.
For the other, I need more information. Look at ps output from a console,
look at .xsession-errors in the X user's home directory. It sounds like
some process is hanging, and it might well be drakfw, like I mentioned in
the last message
ting a hang in starting the
Xsession due to drakfw hanging due to missing gtkdialogs, which was on the
CD but not installed, even though it's required. I added it to rpmsrate
on the RC1 release and it was installed here. I also added mozilla,
galeon and their requirements.
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Adrian Rawlings wrote:
> It installed the Radeon driver.
>
Hmm, that's no good. Some of the radeon cards actually work in native
mode. What if I added a boot argument on the CD "force-fbdev" that would
push both the installer and the installed X to use
I managed to do was break the package
selection altogether when I tried to do the substitution. I can probably
substitute fbdev for the driver the installer sets up, as well as the
installer.
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? Does replacing r128 with fbdev, or
using the config someone else posted a couple of days ago do anything for
you? Does the installer created XF86Config-4 have "UseFBDev"?
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, entropy wrote:
>
> On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 01:17 AM, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> > symbols was due to a lacking module in the installer image. In
> > /tmp/Xconf, is Driver r128 or fbdev?
>
> i don't have an Xconf anywhere on my system..
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, entropy wrote:
>
> On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 11:09 PM, Stew Benedict wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, entropy wrote:
> >
> >> i am having a problem with the r128_drv.o driver in the RC1. i have an
> >> ibook2 original
at your XFree86.0.log in /var/log from VT2 and see if
there's a module missing. I can post the module up for you on my web
space, but to use it you'll need to do a network or HD install.
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ttext >= 1.01-7mdk is needed by urpmi-4.2-29mdk
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q perl-DateManip
> perl-DateManip-5.40-2mdk
>
> - perl-Locale-gettext >= 1.01-7mdk is missing on the sunet-mirror
> - perl-DateManip has strange relation with perl
>
Also to my web space.
Ste
Maybe we could have a PPC corner here? Or Denis would like it even more if
folks have tips etc, to post them in the club forum.
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brief HowTo on how it's used?
Thanks,
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one I saw it at, last time I did that I got
chewed out. But I did see CD1 on one, so it should be propogating around.
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he principle maintainers just ran out of free
time to maintain the site and add new material.
BTW - I just took a peek at one mirror and RC1-CD1 is there, so they must
be trickling out.
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he loop. I was too
tired to debug this one and remake all the stuff.
File list, md5, and rpms that were left out on my web space.
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config). The hfs+ patches I know zero about. Most folks just make
an hfs partition if they want to share between to 2 OS's. Again, that
patch may or may not apply cleanly to whatever kernel source you choose to
use.
Depending on your level of experience, reworking/applying patches to the
ke
ion to
> restart X server each time, but I would like very much to understand what is
> going on.
>
I don't know that any definitive solution was found. It seems to be
interaction with *dm and the XFree fbdev driver. It's possible gpm plays
into it too, you could try disabl
han the cd's. could someone give me an example with a
> mirror?
> trying to compile software, i am told cpp is not sane...
>
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon
Thank Olivier Thauvin for this nice tool.
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he bounces. (there are only a few). I have a little
room left on CD1, if we need to use it, but I don't have the tutotial on
there right now (about 12MB or so).
Stew Benedict
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