his document
was written in.
Functionally, the issue for me is, is there a good reason against
adding a binary property off of person which can indicate their
knowledge ability and connect to a well known URI for a language.
Best,
George
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societal effects?
What about illiterate people? Speaking, not writing...? Maintaining oral
history with great precision, etc.
What about creoles ?
Best,
Martin
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The first principle of all is are there relevant queries that need
that
the general issue is considered
to be worthy of inclusion.
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a
single phenomenal place, without using P189? For example, I have a
bounding box for my city of birth, and a centroid pin for it … I
wasn’t born in two places, yet without using P189, I would need to
have two P7s … no? What am I missing? 😊
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corresponds to the intuitions of natural
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ction/objects/34663/
[3] https://collections.mfa.org/objects/58904
[4] https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.4217.html
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of the concern, that it’s
currently impossible to abide by the definition. The implementation
concern of asserting that two approximations are related can be
considered separately 😊
Rob
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n the "lot" as a subclass route, the two lots (lot
physical and lot conceptual) should be different classes I think. But
I can see that increases complexity.
T.
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Dear Florian, All,
It is not clear to me why people do not want to use E18 for
Aggregat
Dear All,
Here an example of a geological stratigraphy with complex arguments of
before and after (synclines and anticlines)
https://pixels.com/featured/folded-rock-with-anticline-dan-guravich.html
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of E61 Time Primitive
with the instance of E52 <#_E53_Place> Time-Span that constitutes the
interpretation of the terms of the time primitive as an extent in
absolute, real time.
In First Order Logic:
P170(x,y) ⊃E61(x)
P170(x,y) ⊃E52(y)
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1978 /during/ Nov. 19 1755 until April 9 1768
E93:
The Roman Empire in 19 August AD 14
P166:
The Roman Empire in 19 August AD 14 /P166 was a presence of/ The Roman
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orary Aggregate" would be useful (P2 has type:...).
This can pertain to many situations and processes.
A new class, in whatever extension, could specify the exhibition activity.
All the best,
Martin
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Just to clarify: Any fixed set of ob
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oA^end < B^end
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that wait for elaboration of
suitable vocabs.
Best,
martin
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Dear Robert, All,
I see the point, but pr
e (E52) /at some time
within/ 1406-1420(E61)
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7;manner' in a
grammatical sense with CRM and somehow the .1 properties aid
with this important kind of construct.
Anyhow just food for thought.
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e. Could be for CRMsoc.
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Anyhow just food for thought.
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ltiple use cases requiring different
patterns. Anyhow, what do you think?
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...in addition, we should think about digital images of printed material
providing the identity of content for a lost physical item...
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You are right, this is an open and important question.
I have repeatedly pointed to that issue in CRM
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lone 😊
Rob
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other Actors)
Dear Robert,
Very good remarks! but...
I may say that this discus
that does not offer an immediately satisfactory solution. Such
discipline is helpful for the long-term quality of our Model, and saves
a lot of time and misunderstandings in communication, in particular
maintaining the right sequence of arguments.
I therefore I make an ISSUE here: CRM-SIG should cre
collectivism that
the we-mode approach involves is both conceptually and
rational-functionally different from what an individualistic approach
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Pour :
for not accepting,
by May 7 2020.
all the best
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(E24) /has title/“Die Stuppacher Madonna” (E35)
/has type/vernacular, popular title (E55) [The work has no known title
from the artist. It is currently named after its current
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comment.
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27;information sur le patrimoine (RCIP)
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remind you the HW about socP21 & socP22 of the issue
481 <http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-481-scope-notes-for-socp21-and-socp22>.
all the best
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that are used in cultural documentation.
This class specifically excludes features that have no semantic
significance, such as scratches or tool marks. These should be
documented as instances of E25 Human-Made Feature.
Best,
Martin
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aws
of physics" to exclude models such as discrete time.
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Dear All,
Here my proposal for Issue 453, related to CRM version 7.0
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ich in turn is linked to **the
actual encoded symbolic form**.* In a concrete application, it is
recommended that the primitive value system from a chosen implementation
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the nature of a
spacetime volume within the temporal limits of the respective
phenomenon. For instance, for describing the whereabouts of some person
during a particular war period.*
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the list by checking your
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iod or E18 Physical Thing
are also contiguous in time.
Instances of E93 Presence defined for an STV not contiguous in time, may
or may not be contiguous in time depending where it "cuts through".
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therefore the equivalence of P160 with P4 from E4 Period downwards is
valid with cardinality (1,1:0,n) and compatible with general cardinality
of P160 (1,n:0,n).
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I'd like to add the reasoning about the following in issu
x) ˄ P82(y,x)
Meaning: the respective time-span is exactly ongoing and within the
given time primitive.
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cuss the art object first.
Opinions?
Best,
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Dear Martin
My research is in the field of painting. The image of one of the
paintings h
e /is defined by/
10°27'52"N 66°30'02"W (E94) [west of the Observatory of Paris =
64°09'51"W of Greenwich, actually 1,1km east of today’s Plaza Andrés
Eloy Blanco of Cumaná]
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"The death and the carbonization by the intense heat of a gas cloud
(E69) of some people of Pompeii in 79AD resulted in petrified bodies
that could later be preserved in plaster (E22) ."
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ly. Maybe if we have time in the agenda at next SIG?
I'd support that!
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17th 1874 (E7) had general purpose
Catching Moose (E55) (Activity type
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movement of the exhibition "Tutankhamun: Treasures of the Golden
Pharaoh" between Sept 15 and Nov 2 2019 (E9) /moved from/Paris, Grande
Halle de la Villette (E53)
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chronology of the First Intermediate Period, and
Assur is dated to "about 2500 BC”]
Archaeologists should have more examples of relative chronology, e.g. by
imported objects etc.
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and stand improvement. This does not necessarily mean to
become more verbose. Multiple aspects proposed in these guidelines may
be implicit or obvious in a simple phrase.
Please comment
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e will
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parts, physically bound together or kept
together for their functionality, regardless whether parts are lost,
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in terms of what is
exchanged in an acquisition event and how to describe declarative sets
of things that are neither aggregates in the sense of E78 nor
aggregates in the sense of E19.
Look forward to the live discussion.
Best,
George
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:44 PM Martin Doerr <mai
the job.
Best,
Martin
2) would this be a sub property of p190 and if not, why not?
Best,
George
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Here my trial for a property "P190 prime" :
Pxxx has representa
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bit-wise identity (checksum), and nothing else. But this
touches issues of embedded metadata that are not our business.
Cheers,
martin
Cheers,
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On 10/19/2020 10:52 AM, George
ch
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_(building)>, dedicated to Saint
George <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George> around AD 700 [which
actually helped preserving part of the antique temple structure from 449BC]
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rther
development and adoption of
CIDOC-CRM. Delving will be represented at the CRM-SIG by Sjoerd Siebinga.
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ted to must overlap with both y
and z. As a consequence, the minimal Spacetime Volume will be the
intersection of all periods known to restrict X.
Opinions?
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/14/2021 11:24 PM, Martin Doerr wrote:
Dear All,
The issue 294 ended with this open question:
"I suspect the cardinality is logically wrong again. If a type of
thing is restricted to a period, it is not excluded for all its
subperiods.Needs more thought."
http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID
t> was concluded by: I5 Inference Making. J1
<#_J1_used_as>used as premise: I2 <#_S2_Sample_Taking>Belief("AP11 is
TRUE")
But I would *not *regard this as replacing the need for AP13.2 in CRMarcheo.
All the best,
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ISSUE 474, Example of AP11
Dear All,
Creating the examples for AP11 together with Athina Kritsotaki, I
encountered a problem with the label.
I propose to change:
*OLD: AP11 has physical relation (is physical relation
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be at rest
relative to the instance of A2 <#_A2_Stratigraphic_Volume> Stratigraphic
Volume Unit that contains the A7 <#_A7_Embedding> Embedding."
I believe the relation to the stratigraphic unit would be quite
cumbersome to make otherwise.
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ake and induced:
"earthquake-induced”.
But native English speakers will certainly be more specific than me :-)
The rest seems perfect to me.
Ciao,
Achille
Il giorno 26 feb 2021, alle ore 21:54, Martin Doerr
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Dear All,
Here my comprehensive
...
Opinions?
To be discussed!
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E70
Thing, E53 Place, E4 Period (or E2 Temp Entity).
Extent CRMSci by E18, E4 IsA Observable Entity, and extend Mesaurement
P40 observed dimension,from E18 to Observable Entity.
Alternatively, introduce “Dynamic Measurement”in CRMSci.
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Dr. Martin Doerr
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Center for Cultural Informatics
Information Systems Laboratory
Institute of Computer Science
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31 PM Martin Doerr <mailto:mar...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:
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*Posted by Robert Sanderson on 9/9/2020*
I believe that there is an inconsistency in the model for
measurements and dimensions.
E54 Dimensions are associated directly with E70 Things using P43
has dime
version will be presented in more detail in the next virtual SIG
Meeting March 8, 2021, which I hope, many of you will attend.
Best wishes,
Martin
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Dr. Martin Doerr
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ignated issue (447
<http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-447-a7-embedding-as-a-physical-feature-like-entity>),
not part of the editorial work.
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