Re: [css-d] wrapping a list around an image

Ari, On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Ari Davidow wrote: > >> On Dec 14, 2005, at 6:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> http://dev.jwa.org/discover/oralhistory/guide.html > > > I seem to be having an unexpected amount of trouble wrapping a list > around > an image. >> >> Strange as it ma

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Re: [css-d] Width on different browsers

Shawn Ferguson wrote: > http://www.jardsenterprises.com/isom IE/win is expanding #rightColumn to make the calendar and anything else fit, so that container is much wider than you have defined in your stylesheet. That bug makes IE/win "look good". Other browsers will respect 'width: 200px;', so #r

Re: [css-d] wrapping a list around an image

>On Dec 14, 2005, at 6:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >http://dev.jwa.org/discover/oralhistory/guide.html I seem to be having an unexpected amount of trouble wrapping a list around an image. > >Strange as it may seme, the ul extends under the floated image, so any >left margin on

Re: [css-d] Change background and border color on input field

Mark, On Dec 14, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote: > Hi, > > I did a search (albeit quick) of the archives for the answer to this, > but could not find it. I would like to change the background and border > color when the focus is on the input field. The following works fine in > FireFox and

Re: [css-d] Change background and border color on input field

> I did a search (albeit quick) of the archives for the answer to this, > but could not find it. I would like to change the background and border > color when the focus is on the input field. The following works fine in > FireFox and Safari (background color only), but not in IE PC. Do I need > to

[css-d] Floated image hides list bullets

Hello all, I have a parent div which contains a floated left image and a div (class="Intro") that sometimes contains a ul within it. The trouble is that if a UL gets placed within the child div ( Intro ), the bullets appear to display over top of the floated image. The Intro div is positioned rel

[css-d] Change background and border color on input field

Hi, I did a search (albeit quick) of the archives for the answer to this, but could not find it. I would like to change the background and border color when the focus is on the input field. The following works fine in FireFox and Safari (background color only), but not in IE PC. Do I need to r

Re: [css-d] IE - buttons not there

jeremy wrote: > Hey all.. > > I an having some trouble making these buttons show up in IE. > http://jeremyzilar.net/library/ > Neither in IEWin nor IEMac show these links. When I am not completely wrong, this design relies on the inline level of the empty links. Not that empty links are a goo

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

Jesse, thank you for your time on that! I am not totally adept, so it will take me some time to try it out, but I will let you know. It looks like there is hope! This should evolve into a script that anyone using Flash should incorporate. duke -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] wrapping a list around an image

Oops. That's what comes of testing in two places at one time. Try this, and thanks for noticing: http://dev.jwa.org/discover/oralhistory/guide.html > Hey Ari, > You posted a URL that refers to your machine (localhost). Do you have a > valid Internet URL? > > thanks, > Mike > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] wrapping a list around an image

Hey Ari, You posted a URL that refers to your machine (localhost). Do you have a valid Internet URL? thanks, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I seem to be having an unexpected amount of trouble wrapping a list around > an image. > > On this particular page > (http://localhost/discover/oralhistor

[css-d] wrapping a list around an image

I seem to be having an unexpected amount of trouble wrapping a list around an image. On this particular page (http://localhost/discover/oralhistory/guide.html), I have an image of a book cover, floating left. Some text floats around the image, then a list begins. Surprisingly, the list does not i

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

> I've come up with a solution to detect a visitor's speed just using > JavaScript. 25kB is a small smaple to test it responsibly. Some latency may distort the measurment. The image can also get cached. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ___

[css-d] Width on different browsers

The page looks fine in IE (of course) but when I view it in other browsers, it doesn't seem to have the same width and doesn't stretch across the page. Take a look and if you can help, please do: http://www.jardsenterprises.com/isom Thanks in advance!

Re: [css-d] Browser Check: cssmaze.christianmontoya.com

Christian Montoya wrote: > I just finished a page at http://cssmaze.christianmontoya.com I *won* in both Opera9prev1 and Firefox1.5. Nice little practical test. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [css-d] IE - buttons not there

On 12/14/05, jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > that is a good little test. Yeah, it is working fin in FF. > It is just how I have learned to call images. I have always been told > that it was better to put your images in the css. I guess i could put > the code in the markup. The thing is,.. I h

[css-d] Browser Check: cssmaze.christianmontoya.com

I just finished a page at http://cssmaze.christianmontoya.com It uses the adjacent sibling selector as well as :hover on divs and z-index. It doesn't work in IE Win or Opera Win 8.5. Works fine in FF 1.5 and FF 1.0.7 If you are thinking, "what in the world?," it's a maze. Use your pointing device

Re: [css-d] fluidly sometimes show a floating div

CJ Larson wrote: > Opera 8 and IE6 display the cart underneath the content, and FF > displays the cart right next to the content for me. I would like to > see the fubar rendering you're getting. :) It isn't the non-valid part that's making trouble-shooting impossible. Validity is your problem,

Re: [css-d] css speed

> I've heard talk about how much faster css is at rendering pages than > table layouts, but I've never seen the proof (actual statistics). I > was wondering if anyone knew of a study on this. Not that I know of, but the main difference is that CSS layouts tend to be a lot slicker than oldschool ta

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

Hey "Duke", That's a really interesting question, although off topic for this mailing list. You got me thinking and experimenting, and I've come up with a solution to detect a visitor's speed just using JavaScript. I wrote about it on my blog: http://www.thefutureoftheweb.com/blog/2005/12/java

[css-d] css speed

I've heard talk about how much faster css is at rendering pages than table layouts, but I've never seen the proof (actual statistics). I was wondering if anyone knew of a study on this. My second questions is related to that, dose anyone know of any resources on writing more optimised css. For exa

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

Thanks Joe, but how does one determine the speed of the visitors connection to know when to switch to the standard gif? duke -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Dolson Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:26 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

> I am hopeful that there is some way to do the same thing based upon the > speed. No, it isn't, at least without user's input or traffic-heavy benchmarking. Nonetheless, this part is OT here. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com __

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

Thanks Ron, that is an interesting site, but as far as I can see, it only detects whether or not the Flash program is downloaded on the visitors computer. Even when I was on a dial-up service, I had Flash on it, it was just very annoying to wait, and wait. I am hopeful that there is some way to d

Re: [css-d] Need help figuring out how to implement a page layout

> 1. You're using classes for your column divs instead of IDs. Most CSS Sorry.. I quickly typed it up and am using IDs in my real markup. > > 2. Your column names are not intuitive. Perhaps you are just dumbing > them down for the same a simple email, which is fine, but just in case > these

Re: [css-d] fluidly sometimes show a floating div

> Would you please do some clean-up in there before further trouble-shooting? That would sure be nice, wouldn't it? :) Unfortunately this is the mess asp.net makes of the pages and I'm stuck with it. I'm afraid HTML Tidy won't help me much as the pages are generated through asp. Going throug

Re: [css-d] class vs. id

Brian wrote: > >>> Similarly, refer to elements with an ID by the ID alone: #m_home, > >>> not a#m_home. There should only be ONE, so there's no need to > >>> specify the element. > > >If you have a rule for >#container a {} and want new rules for #container #foo {} just give it >the rules - anyth

Re: [css-d] class vs. id

> > However, as sexy as highlighting with CSS only is, it does not make > > sense from a usability/accessibility point of view, as the current > > page _should not be a link_. Personally I highlight the current page > > with a strong - as this also makes sense without CSS and use the body > > id co

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

> I have used css for the first time to rebuild my church's > site, and love it. > I would like to include a Flash header on the homepage, but > switch to a > standard gif header for viewers with slow connections. I was > hoping that > there is a way to maybe have two "includes", and use one o

[css-d] IE7 and Display Table

Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: >No need to hide it from IE/win, as that browser doesn't understand >'display: table-cell' anyway. IE7 may though, since that property is >part of the CSS-specs, and we may hope IE7 will make proper use of specs >when it arrives. Is there any authoritative source that has co

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

brushstreet-Duke wrote: >I would like to include a Flash header on the homepage, but switch to a >standard gif header for viewers with slow connections. I was hoping that >there is a way to maybe have two “includes”, and use one or the other – but >first I need some kind of ‘conditional switch’

Re: [css-d] links not clickable in Safari

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:55:39 +0100, Erik Visser wrote: > it is fixed Hi Erik, Would you like to share with us how you fixed it? I see this issue come up from time to time. Cordially, David -- David Hucklesby, on 12/14/2005 -- ___

Re: [css-d] class vs. id

Christian Heilmann wrote: > However, as sexy as highlighting with CSS only is, it does not make > sense from a usability/accessibility point of view, as the current > page _should not be a link_. Personally I highlight the current page > with a strong - as this also makes sense without CSS and use

Re: [css-d] fluidly sometimes show a floating div

CJ Larson wrote: > http://sltclan.com/images/cj/details.html Would you please do some clean-up in there before further trouble-shooting? FF, IE6 and Opera rendered the live page differently, so I made a copy. HTMLTidy protested wildly, and changed things. Leaving the DTD intact, but only after ha

[css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

I have used css for the first time to rebuild my church’s site, and love it. I would like to include a Flash header on the homepage, but switch to a standard gif header for viewers with slow connections. I was hoping that there is a way to maybe have two “includes”, and use one or the other – but

Re: [css-d] class vs. id

I think the idea was that the wiki would stay "evergreen" while the past discussion would not be as available to new members (or existing members who don't feel like searching archives) Wiki pages are also more easily referred to in response to new questions than an old discussion thread.

Re: [css-d] IE - buttons not there

that is a good little test. Yeah, it is working fin in FF. It is just how I have learned to call images. I have always been told that it was better to put your images in the css. I guess i could put the code in the markup. The thing is,.. I have always called my images out of the css, and that

Re: [css-d] IE - buttons not there

hey Ian, thanks for the help.. I am not sure what you mean by running the class as a div. -jeremy Ian Young wrote: >Jeremy. > >If it is any help, if the "view" class is run as a div class, the image is >displayed (you need a line height tho'). > >can't think of anything else > >Cheers > >Ian > >

Re: [css-d] class vs. id

>>> Now, most of us agreed that what the original poster was trying >>> to do wasn't a Good Thing, and there otherwise wouldn't be much >>> use to differentiate the links, but a better way would be to >>> apply IDs instead > > > Unless you have more than one navigation on the page and want to do

Re: [css-d] class vs. id

> And, if you *do* want to IDentify each link, an ID is what you want, anyway. > Conversely, when writing rules for a class, always specfy the element. If only we all had the freedom to do so. ~ cj [stuck with Microsoft hijacking ID tags for their own use and making it impossible for me to sp

Re: [css-d] class vs. id

> > > > > > > > > > Now, most of us agreed that what the original poster was trying to do > wasn't a Good Thing, and there otherwise wouldn't be much use to > differentiate the links, but a better way would be to apply IDs instead Unless you have more than one navigation on the page and want t

Re: [css-d] fluidly sometimes show a floating div

[cj] > > Opera 8 goofs up content-inside when the cart isn't there, but other > > than that both cart and no-cart versions are looking good across my > > browsers here with this tweak (and a * html hack to hide it from IE, > > of course). [georg] > Oh, and make sure to clear memory before trying to

Re: [css-d] IE - buttons not there

Is it in how the background image is being called? I notice that the link is actually still there in IE, it is just not visible. any help would be much appreciated. thanks. jeremy wrote: >Hey all.. > >I an having some trouble making these buttons show up in IE. The images >are being called in

[css-d] Faux Columns

I am building Faux Columns. In Fireworks I made a document that is 10 pixels tall and 2000 pixels wide to start the process. My question is: how do I transfer my Fireworks document to my CSS file that I am working with? This idea has me baffled. I'm sure that there is a simple answer that I am just

Re: [css-d] Site check

> > link: http://extranet.baxterwoodman.com/roulk/beta > > Looks fairly good in IE6 and Firefox 1.5 on my PC here. Two things I > noticed. One is that your background seems to not extend all the way down > the page, as it switches to white edges about half way down the page. > Secondly, your two ma

[css-d] class vs. id

I keep seeing examples where people are using classes instead of IDs in their markup. Take this example from the "rollover with no link content" thread: > > > > Now, most of us agreed that what the original poster was trying to do wasn't a Good Thing, and there otherwise wouldn't be much u

Re: [css-d] Vertical AND horizontal pull-out menus

> I'm working on a site with horizontal pull-down menus across the top, > and a couple of vertical pull-out menus along the left side. This is my > first time doing this. I'm using menus based on Suckerfish menus, > including the snippet of javascript for IE/WIN. The menu across the top > works

Re: [css-d] fluidly sometimes show a floating div

CJ Larson wrote: > Opera 8 goofs up content-inside when the cart isn't there, but other > than that both cart and no-cart versions are looking good across my > browsers here with this tweak (and a * html hack to hide it from IE, > of course). No need to hide it from IE/win, as that browser does

Re: [css-d] Site check

Ryan wrote: > Good morning, > > This is my first post to CSS-D and I wanted to start with a > site check. > > I have been working on a homepage mock up for a near by > village. Please look > it over and give me your feedback. Since this is only a mock > up, the code is > poorly organized. I a

Re: [css-d] Positioning Divs without div container

> now days we calculate every byte > i disagree with you about your attitude. that you don't have to calculate > and think about site weight > look at yahoo homepage code, for example: they don't write ', all css > classes are one to two letters > there is a war for clients(costumers), and u have h

Re: [css-d] Three column layout blues

coolman coolx wrote: > www.dqdemos.com/nbs. > I will really appreciate any suggestions. 1: I think you have triggered the em font-resizing bug in IE/win. Description and cure here... 2: line-height looks "fixed" in pixels. Preferably set them

[css-d] IE - buttons not there

Hey all.. I an having some trouble making these buttons show up in IE. The images are being called in through the css. I usually have good luck making them come through. So I isolated the problem, and made a test page with the issue. http://jeremyzilar.net/library/ I am sure it is something sim

Re: [css-d] Positioning Divs without div container

now days we calculate every byte i disagree with you about your attitude. that you don't have to calculate and think about site weight look at yahoo homepage code, for example: they don't write ', all css classes are one to two letters there is a war for clients(costumers), and u have have to make

[css-d] Site check

Good morning, This is my first post to CSS-D and I wanted to start with a site check. I have been working on a homepage mock up for a near by village. Please look it over and give me your feedback. Since this is only a mock up, the code is poorly organized. I am mostly interesting in getting crea

Re: [css-d] Positioning Divs without div container

> but cant i use the tag as my container? I doubt that every user agent out there allows you to set a width to body. I could be wrong though. However, you lose another element you can use for borders and background that way. Faux columns[1] is a great trick to use with a centered container elemen

Re: [css-d] Positioning Divs without div container

> > if you had the whole layout in one table then it took > long to render, whereas if you created a header - content and footer > table the page seemingly rendered a lot faster. > hi cristian just to make my self clear: have u talked about the user feel, that the page takes longer to load? or h

Re: [css-d] Positioning Divs without div container

but cant i use the tag as my container? another question: doesnt the divs render them self much more faster? dont they render to the stage/page quicker? a table tag need to be close before he shows him sels. same as div. doesnt it? On 12/14/05, Christian Heilmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > .

Re: [css-d] Positioning Divs without div container

. > i use in my sites to build using container div that contain all the > structure and the divs that hold the site. > someone told me that is would be a good idea to separate the divs. in this > way the browser will process the page faster, and will put the HTML faster. I sincerely doubt that thi

Re: [css-d] fluidly sometimes show a floating div

> If I have understood you correctly, then... > .content-inside {display: table-cell;} > ...seems to give a close to perfect line-up in Opera9prev1 & Firefox > 1.5, on windows. > > regards > Georg You're a lifesaver! Opera 8 goofs up content-inside when the cart isn't there, but other tha

[css-d] Three column layout blues

Hello, Am a newbie to css and have read some books on it and so far am happy with it. Am having a problem with a site I just designed which looks well but when I increase the text size, it pushes some of contents out. U can have a look at it and try resizeing the text. The url is : www.dqdemos.com/

Re: [css-d] Positioning Divs without div container

i found a way body{ width:800px; margin:0 auto; position:relative } this makes the body as the containing object, and it goives me the ability to put divs without a container. does it sound right? {MOZ, NS8 & IE6 support me this tecnique}

[css-d] Page not stretching across in Firefox

Could you help me figure out why this is happening? The page looks fine in IE (of course) but when I view it in Firefox, it doesn't stretch across the page. Take a look and if you can help, please do: http://www.jardsenterprises.com/isom Thanks in advance! _

Re: [css-d] Problem (?) with img border inside a:link in Firefox

On 12/14/05, David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 14/12/05, Robert Voogdgeert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can any of you tell me why with the a:link/visited set with border:none > > (as in the example at the bottom of the e-mail), I get a box around an > > image inside a link > > > a:

Re: [css-d] Preloading Background Images

So all in all what is the "smart" way to handle this? Should there have been some better design decisions made before this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Montoya Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:55 AM To: Kevin Cannon; css-

Re: [css-d] Problem with

Laura Greenwood wrote: >http://ciswebs.smc.edu/cis51/greenwood_laura_lee/temp/index.htm > >Also, I have not been able to figure out the mystery of the >background. It seems that the #main controls the background. However >long #main is, the background will be that long. If the #left is >longer, th

Re: [css-d] Need help figuring out how to implement a page layout

Mike Soultanian wrote: >So, I was able to solve my problem by utilizing the following structure: > >content >content >content > >Like you said, I floated 1 and 2 to the left and then set the margin of >3 to the total fixed widths of 1 and 2 giving me fixed/fixed/liquid. If >I want fixed/liquid/

Re: [css-d] Layout Jumps when links are hovered over

Jesper Brunholm wrote: >Larry Winfrey wrote: > > >>Once I get all the bugs worked out of the css I am going to get rid of a >>ton of the rules. Just want to make sure things are working before I do >>that. >> >> > >I am afraid that it's a dangerous approach, you will have a hard time >deci

Re: [css-d] Notation

Carlton Gregory wrote: >If I have a class defined for a table named "tclass" and that >table has headers, rows, and columns > >Can I refer to all rows in the above table in my CSS as > > .tclass tr { > > Style, style style. > >} > >

Re: [css-d] another float/IE question

Hello, Ingo. You wrote 14 декабря 2005 г., 14:02:38: > An element cannot wrap a float in IE when it has layout, as we said > elsewhere [1]. > Ingo > [1] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html Thank you very much, Ingo, I have removed that really 'panic' thing for P element and it w

Re: [css-d] another float/IE question

Denis Mishunoff wrote: > http://scoolnet.bluedynamics.net/Members/denis/scoolnetarticle.2005-12-14.3733299116 > ... The problem is that the text doesn't wrapps the floated DIV in IE as it > should. You will notice that the first paragraph behaves as it has the > margin-left applied to it. The inte

[css-d] IE6 - top margin too large

Hello List, Nearly there with what should be oh such a simple page Page: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/monitoring-simple.htm CSS: http://www.beale-family.net/beta/css/layout-stripped.css In IE6, there is a large white gap between the top of #centrecontent and the bottom of the navigation

Re: [css-d] Problem with image border.

Hi! on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 at 12:17 Eoin Maguire wrote: >I'm having an issue with extra spacing being added. I've got a table with > two rows, one with an image in it and the next row with css borders on the > left and right. These borders are supposed to match up vertically with the

Re: [css-d] Problem with image border.

>I'm having an issue with extra spacing being added. I've got a table with > two rows, one with an image in it and the next row with css borders on the > left and right. These borders are supposed to match up vertically with the > borders in the image above. However, in IE there's an extra spac

[css-d] Problem with image border.

Hi, I'm having an issue with extra spacing being added. I've got a table with two rows, one with an image in it and the next row with css borders on the left and right. These borders are supposed to match up vertically with the borders in the image above. However, in IE there's an extra spac

[css-d] another float/IE question

Hello, css-discuss. I have a strange problem with float in IE. http://scoolnet.bluedynamics.net/Members/denis/scoolnetarticle.2005-12-14.3733299116 The markup is as follows: Text goes here... Another paragraph... Here are the styles: .articleMainImage { float: left; margin: 1

Re: [css-d] Problem (?) with img border inside a:link in Firefox

On 14/12/05, Robert Voogdgeert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can any of you tell me why with the a:link/visited set with border:none > (as in the example at the bottom of the e-mail), I get a box around an > image inside a link > a:link{ > border:none; As you said, the border is around th

Re: [css-d] Problem (?) with img border inside a:link in Firefox

> Can any of you tell me why with the a:link/visited set with border:none > (as in the example at the bottom of the e-mail), I get a box around an > image inside a link > > Working on a MAC, I noticed that the square borders only appear in > Firefox (and Camino) but not in Safari, Opera and OmniWe

[css-d] Problem (?) with img border inside a:link in Firefox

Hi all, Can any of you tell me why with the a:link/visited set with border:none (as in the example at the bottom of the e-mail), I get a box around an image inside a link, so as with the following (in which the span is used for a text to 'appear' when the image is hovered over): Click to return

Re: [css-d] links not clickable in Safari

Michael Hulse wrote: > On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:48 AM, Erik Visser wrote: >>in this the links in the left column are not clickable in safari: >> >>http://www.bartbleijerveld.nl/ >>http://www.bartbleijerveld.nl/css/skidoo_too.css >> >>anybody any idea how to solve this? > > They are clickable in the v

[css-d] Can this page be saved? (min-height & peekaboo issues)

http://weston.canncentral.org/misc/maxIT/template.html Renders pretty much as I'd have it in Gecko-based and Safari. Falls apart on two fronts in IE: (1) The min-height attribute obviously doesn't work on the #main div (outlined in yellow). I thought about using a scaffolding div or sing-pixel im