Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-22 Thread bill scheider
Hi Jonathan, What I get here when I reload the page in IE6 is a crash. Once the initial load crashed the browser. The second time, the page loaded ok (probably from the cache) but when re-loaded the browser hung up after loading the header. In Firefox, I get a flicker when the page loads. In the

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-22 Thread Jonathan Berry
Thank you to all who commented. This site is one of our templated sites from our "Infosites" group. They use the same code/CSS for all their sites, but something was disturbed with this new one. The issues about font size/zooming are something that I will have to investigate with our other sites in

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug? - harolds

2005-12-22 Thread david
> Jonathan Berry wrote: > >>http://www.haroldstevens.com/redesign/contact.html When I kick the font size up one step in Firefox 1.5, the "Click here to view a printable version starts to hide under the "Visit our showroom" area. Another step makes the printable version link disappear complet

Re: [css-d] Problems with nested s used for tabbed navigation in IE 6.0

2005-12-22 Thread Steve Clason
On 12/22/2005 5:39 PM Allison Bloodworth wrote: > I recently adapted Adam Kalsey's CSS tabs with nested submenus made up of > s (http://www.kalsey.com/tools/csstabs/) to create three levels of > navigation for a calendar. For some reason, my page > (http://mms.media.berkeley.edu:8901/UCBCNUsabilit

[css-d] Problems with nested s used for tabbed navigation in IE 6.0

2005-12-22 Thread Allison Bloodworth
Hi, I recently adapted Adam Kalsey's CSS tabs with nested submenus made up of s (http://www.kalsey.com/tools/csstabs/) to create three levels of navigation for a calendar. For some reason, my page (http://mms.media.berkeley.edu:8901/UCBCNUsabilityMockups/Gateway/New/sports -ucb-nested.htm) looks

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-22 Thread Ian Anderson
Jonathan Berry wrote: > We are having a problem with one of our sites wherein the left nav shifts > either on load or refresh (i.e. if you cannot get it immediately then > refresh and you will see the probelm). This is only in IE and looks like it > might be an instance of the Peekaboo bug. But we

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug? - harolds -> Jakob's -> OT

2005-12-22 Thread Alex Robinson
Felix and Ron wrote stuff about fonts and usability which essentially has nothing to do with CSS STOP! You have entered holy war territory. Proceed directly to the wiki pages and channel your energy into expanding the pages there on using fonts. Feel free to add as much opinion

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-22 Thread Pringle, Ron
> Jonathan Berry wrote: > > http://www.haroldstevens.com/redesign/contact.html > > Trying to access your page with text zoom maximized freezes IE here. > With zoom set to middle the page loads and shows the problem you > described. Changing the zoom by one step, reloading the page > and changi

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug? - harolds -> Jakob's -> OT

2005-12-22 Thread Felix Miata
(My original reply was an accidental CC here, sorry.) Pringle, Ron wrote: > It would be more accurate to say that "the #1 complaint of subscribers to > Jakob Nielson's Newsletter who responded to a survey directed at them is..." Precisely the kind of people who care about web accessibility and

Re: [css-d] firefox error?

2005-12-22 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/22/05, Spike Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > > Another colleague problem here (seems I'm the officially elected rep for > css-d): > > These three floats are level in Internet Explorer but not in Firefox for > some reason. Most baffling. > > Due to privacy issues I'm unfortunat

Re: [css-d] Two Column/Three Column Help

2005-12-22 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/22/05, Richard Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All > > I recently asked for help for this site: > http://www.swmug.co.uk/ > I was advised that my maths skills were somewhat out! Anyway, I have > been thinking and realised that I could have made the site two column > and place the image

Re: [css-d] External CSS caching

2005-12-22 Thread David Hucklesby
Hi Troy, You wrote: > Normally, the fact that the browser caches the external style sheet > benefits the user. But while working on a large, commercial site, > the problem of browsers recalling old external CSS from their cache > has come up. > > > If the external style sheet has changed, and the

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-22 Thread Ingo Chao
Jonathan Berry wrote: > http://www.haroldstevens.com/redesign/contact.html Trying to access your page with text zoom maximized freezes IE here. With zoom set to middle the page loads and shows the problem you described. Changing the zoom by one step, reloading the page and changin again freezes

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug? - harolds

2005-12-22 Thread Pringle, Ron
> Browser makers provide users with a preference adjustment precisely so > that they can optimize to the size that best suits them. So, defer to > what your users prefer, leaving your content's P text unsized, or > reinforcing it with an explicit font-size: medium. Too small > text is the > #1 co

Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug? - harolds

2005-12-22 Thread Felix Miata
Jonathan Berry wrote: > http://www.haroldstevens.com/redesign/contact.html http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/jonab1.jpg I wouldn't worry so much about peekaboo as your visitors' first reaction hitting the back button. Who can or wants to read text 3/8 the size of their default (.text-box {font-size:

Re: [css-d] IE7 support for min-height.

2005-12-22 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 7:20 PM + 12/22/05, Tony Crockford wrote: >does anyone know the current position regarding min-height support in IE7? Nobody outside Microsoft does. In the various IE team postings about what will be added or fixed in IE7, 'min-height' (along with its cousins) has not been mentioned

[css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-22 Thread Jonathan Berry
I am reposting this only because I don't know what the protocol is for placing "Site Check" in your subject line is, i.e. I didn't know if that was to get comments or to show a problem. Anyway, we are on deadline and wanted to get help with this possible bug: http://www.haroldstevens.com/redesign/c

Re: [css-d] Challenging layout - can this be done?

2005-12-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tom Dell'Aringa wrote: > or > IE/win needs a bit of help on the basics (hover all), but the other > browsers should be fine. > > Son of a Gun George, you always nail it :) I don't know why the > z

[css-d] Interesting IE bug with overflow inside an anchor

2005-12-22 Thread Mike Purvis
I don't know if anyone's seen this before, but I ran into it recently working on a photo gallery site for a friend: http://gallery.marshallweb.ca/ In FF, the images in the little square boxes are clickable, in IE5/6, they aren't. A span inside the anchor is being set to overflow:hidden, and the

[css-d] IE7 support for min-height.

2005-12-22 Thread Tony Crockford
does anyone know the current position regarding min-height support in IE7? or more specifically, what will happen to CSS rules written thus: div.headline{ height: 40px; min-height: 40px; padding: 1px 0 0 0; } html>body div.headline{ height: auto; } where height set to 40px in the

Re: [css-d] Myspace

2005-12-22 Thread Alex Robinson
>But, this is starting to get seriously off-topic. OK, just to reiterate, when I wrote earlier today "we've had more than enough about myspace, kay?" what I meant was for people not to continue this thread. This thread is over. Is that clear enough? Alex css-d moderator __

Re: [css-d] Myspace

2005-12-22 Thread Brian Cummiskey
D Ross wrote: > This guy used to have an amazing myspace page but it appears they > deleted it for some reason... They deleted it because he removed the ads from display. That's the big thing in myspace terms of service. You can do anything you want to your design, but you cannot cover up the

Re: [css-d] Negative margins in IE

2005-12-22 Thread Rowan @ Jetboy
On the containing div, try either: position: relative; and/or: height: 0; The latter to give the layout (as in hasLayout). I had to use both to drag s out of s with negative margins, but it may be different in your circumstances. I'd strongly suggest you put at least the height declaration in

[css-d] Negative margins in IE

2005-12-22 Thread Jonathan Carter
I've got a container div with a 10px padding set on it, and inside of the container I have hr's whose margin-left and margin-right I've set to -10px so that they would "break" out of the padding and give the feeling of seperating the content within the container while keeping the padding for th

Re: [css-d] Two Column/Three Column Help

2005-12-22 Thread David Laakso
Richard Brown wrote: >I recently asked for help for this site: >http://www.swmug.co.uk/ >I was advised that my maths skills were somewhat out! Anyway, I have >been thinking and realised that I could have made the site two column >and place the image that is in the left column within the content

Re: [css-d] Challenging layout - can this be done?

2005-12-22 Thread Tom Dell'Aringa
- Original Message From: Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Dell'Aringa wrote: > http://www.pixelmech.com/rev/tile.html Not sure if I got it right, but... ...was the only thing I could think of. Maybe you can change it into something u

Re: [css-d] clearing a float without using a float

2005-12-22 Thread CJ Larson
> > Roger Roelofs wrote: > > As Zoe said, you need a new 'block formatting context' All of the > > following will do that > > > > float: left; > > position: absolute; > > display: table; > > > > But, all of these cause the container to 'shrink-wrap' Floating > > .inside seems the most typical app

Re: [css-d] IE 6 WIN - styled bleeding into

2005-12-22 Thread Mike
At 08:22 AM 12/22/2005 , Thomas Peklak wrote: >Hi! >Mayby it helps, when you write the valid html-code for the list-element: > > > > > Baldwin to Jacksonville > > > > RTC   FPBT > > > > Region: Northern > > Location: Baldwin to Jacksonville > > Activities: Walking, Horseback Riding, Biking > > L

Re: [css-d] firefox error?

2005-12-22 Thread Roger Roelofs
Spike, On Dec 22, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Spike Spencer wrote: > Due to privacy issues I'm unfortunately not able to share the site > with you, > but I can show you a screenshot (off-list). > > The columns look like this: > > |--| ANNOYING GAP HERE > | | |--| |---

[css-d] IE 6 WIN - styled bleeding into

2005-12-22 Thread Mike
Greetings, The first list entry in this page: http://mbreiding.us/fl_rt/all.html looks fine in FF 1.7 WIN Baldwin to Jacksonville RTC   FPBT Region: Northern Location: Baldwin to Jacksonville Activities: Walking, Horseback Riding, Biking Length: 14 miles In IE 6 WIN the styling from the ta

Re: [css-d] firefox error?

2005-12-22 Thread Spike Spencer
Hi guys, Another colleague problem here (seems I'm the officially elected rep for css-d): These three floats are level in Internet Explorer but not in Firefox for some reason. Most baffling. Due to privacy issues I'm unfortunately not able to share the site with you, but I can show you a screens

[css-d] Flash objects in MacIE5.2

2005-12-22 Thread Phil Treble
Hi all. Could anyone please help with an IE5 Mac problem? I'm putting a site together at: http://townandcountry.philtreble.net/template.php (CSS within document). I've used two Flash objects... one for header banner and one for the LED display. On Mac IE5 the LED display gets put over the

[css-d] Two Column/Three Column Help

2005-12-22 Thread Richard Brown
Hi All I recently asked for help for this site: http://www.swmug.co.uk/ I was advised that my maths skills were somewhat out! Anyway, I have been thinking and realised that I could have made the site two column and place the image that is in the left column within the content and set a padding.

[css-d] [ADMIN] Re: Myspace

2005-12-22 Thread Alex Robinson
> Loads of stuff about myspace < If anyone wants to discuss the practicalities of actually styling myspace pages then go ahead, but other than that, we've had more than enough about myspace, kay? Alex css-d moderator ___

Re: [css-d] Myspace

2005-12-22 Thread Paul Walker
Myspace and "Tom" are not interested in their markup as 80% of their response to to requests is not xhtml/css. It's .jpg, .mov, .etc. Get over the fact that http doesn't always mean the information you want to serve. - Original Message - From: "D Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brian

[css-d] Three Column Site - float problem

2005-12-22 Thread Richard Brown
Hi All I am currently developing a three column site for Wordpress. However, I am having some problems with floating the columns. The site is at: http://www.swmug.co.uk/ The css is at: http://www.swmug.co.uk/wp-content/themes/TimWordpress/style.css Any ideas please what I need to do to get the

[css-d] Alignment problem in IE

2005-12-22 Thread Iorhael
One final IE quirk to tweak.I have the content for this and other pages specified so that the title, arrows, and art all center align. But its not matching up in IE. Would this be another case of adding padding: 0 somewhere to correct IE? http://www.drk-writing.com/northwesternesse/FanArt/a