[css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread Luc
Good afternoon list, Page: http://www.dzinelabs.com/sandbox/MP/Pages/Contact_success.php Css: http://www.dzinelabs.com/sandbox/MP/Stylesheets/MP.css I've got an image above the footer and because the page doesn't have much filling, unlike some other pages, the distance between

Re: [css-d] Site Check for IE layout issues

2008-11-08 Thread Bill Brown
hard time getting a handle on how to ensure all of my content is in the right place in Internet Explorer 7 and 6. . You are running Proprietary HTML not XHTML strict. The resolution of this issue is best left to a list pro. I assume you are referring to the DOCTYPE ? Is the HTML

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread David Laakso
Luc wrote: http://www.dzinelabs.com/sandbox/MP/Pages/Contact_success.php .but upon bumping the font-size up (not page-zoom) in IE, Firefox and Mozilla, the vertical distance between the footer and the nav menu get's smaller. Do stay awake nights thinking up weird

Re: [css-d] Site Check for IE layout issues

2008-11-08 Thread Alyda Gilmore
From: Bill Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:18:55 -0500 To: SuzT808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [css-d] Site Check for IE layout issues I'm not a list pro and this may offer little in terms of resolution,

Re: [css-d] Site Check for IE layout issues

2008-11-08 Thread Bill Brown
Alyda Gilmore wrote: That's not my understanding at all! I used the following for a number of years: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; and recently switched to: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN

Re: [css-d] control td text

2008-11-08 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your reply. But when I use the suggestion for the css of {display: block: text-align: center; display: bold;}, That's not what I suggested. Why don't you post a URL so that we could see what your real text page is? I'm using td.boldcenter for the

Re: [css-d] CSS help - IE problems

2008-11-08 Thread David Laakso
Al Kendall wrote: 1. In Firefox v3, it looks great. 2. In IE v7 all the graphics and text are much larger and take up much more space on the screen. 3. In Opera v9, it close to firefox, but you not in the drop-down menu there are gaps under each link and then one link is too long so it

Re: [css-d] Site Check for IE layout issues

2008-11-08 Thread David Laakso
SuzT808 wrote: www.cocomomi.com/index8.html http://www.cocomomi.com/index8.html Hi, I assume you are referring to the DOCTYPE ? Is the HTML proprietary because of the javascript for flash ( from Adobe) ? Should this be transitional or another HTML Doctype altogether ?

Re: [css-d] unfloated form drops in IE

2008-11-08 Thread Luc
Good evening list, David Hucklesby wrote: I'm not seeing this behavior in IE 6 nor IE 7 this end (Win xp). Did you fix it, or are you using a different version of IE ? Me myself and i wrote in reply You don't see it? Strange, haven't fixed it. Using Win xp IE6.0.2900. IE7 is a stand alone

Re: [css-d] CSS help - IE problems

2008-11-08 Thread David Hucklesby
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:28:50 -0500, David Laakso wrote: Al Kendall wrote: 1. In Firefox v3, it looks great. 2. In IE v7 all the graphics and text are much larger and take up much more space on the screen. 3. In Opera v9, it close to firefox, but you not in the drop-down menu there are

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread David Laakso
Luc wrote #sidebar1 { border:1px solid #fff; :: 4 position only :: Do you use most of the time borders for debugging? I recall i've read somewhere that's this causes side effects on the rest of a page and therefore not recommended... If the use of a

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread Luc
Good evening David, It was foretold that on 08/11/2008 @ 16:14:46 GMT-0500 (which was 19:14:46 where I live) David Laakso would write: If the use of a border causes a problem when de-bugging, such as causing a float drop, in a too tight width situation-- use a background-color on the

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luc wrote: Do you use most of the time borders for debugging? I recall i've read somewhere that's this causes side effects on the rest of a page and therefore not recommended... Of course it does ... borders take up space and may break tightly organized layouts. To me that's an

Re: [css-d] CSS help - IE problems

2008-11-08 Thread David Laakso
David Hucklesby wrote: This corresponds to what Richard Rutter recommended a year ago.[1] [1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/howtosizetextincss Packed cram full of false, erroneous, and naive information, in my book. le triomphe de mediocre --Baudelaire -- A thin red

Re: [css-d] unfloated form drops in IE

2008-11-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luc wrote: Could i have some more checks please with IE ... just to be sure ... it really puzzles me Of course the form drops in IE6. You're using a px/px based IE-expression to control min/max width, but the container and several elements inside it have width based on 'em'. Such a

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread David Laakso
Luc wrote: Good evening David, It was foretold that on 08/11/2008 @ 16:14:46 GMT-0500 (which was 19:14:46 where I live) David Laakso would write: If the use of a border causes a problem when de-bugging, such as causing a float drop, in a too tight width situation-- use a

Re: [css-d] CSS help - IE problems

2008-11-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/11/08 13:12 (GMT-0800) David Hucklesby composed: what Richard Rutter recommended a year ago.[1] [1] http://www.alistapart.com/articles/howtosizetextincss That article was a follow-up designed to expand the damage he did over 3 years previous on his blog: http://clagnut.com/blog/348/

Re: [css-d] Site Check for IE layout issues

2008-11-08 Thread David Hucklesby
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:18:47 -1000, Alyda Gilmore wrote: From: Bill Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] As I understand it, Internet Explorer doesn't support XHTML, so even if you specify XHTML in the doctype and even if you made server-side adjustments to _ensure_ that you were sending XHTML

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread David Hucklesby
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:45:21 -0200, Luc wrote: [...] Do you use most of the time borders for debugging? I recall i've read somewhere that's this causes side effects on the rest of a page and therefore not recommended... but hey, due to my insanity i'm not the smartest kid on the

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread Luc
Good evening Gunlaug, It was foretold that on 08/11/2008 @ 22:21:37 GMT+0100 (which was 19:21:37 where I live) Gunlaug would write: snipped a bit Of course it does ... borders take up space and may break tightly organized layouts. To me that's an excellent reason for using borders while

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread Luc
Good evening David, It was foretold that on 08/11/2008 @ 14:29:06 GMT-0800 (which was 20:29:06 where I live) David Hucklesby would write: snipped a bit Otherwise I add background-color (usually as extra DEBUG rules at the bottom of my style sheet. Funny you mention that ... i'm just

Re: [css-d] unfloated form drops in IE

2008-11-08 Thread Luc
Good evening Gunlaug, It was foretold that on 08/11/2008 @ 22:37:31 GMT+0100 (which was 19:37:31 where I live) Gunlaug Sørtun would write: snipped a bit You're using a px/px based IE-expression to control min/max width, but the container and several elements inside it have width based on

Re: [css-d] font-size and padding

2008-11-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luc wrote: [...] Believe me, i do try to understand how everything works ... :-) I know :-) Stay on course and you will. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] unfloated form drops in IE

2008-11-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luc wrote: Ah yes... the ie.css needs the container and those elements in px otherwise ie will use the dimensions set in the MP.css Or the other way around: using an em/em based IE-expression and let IE6 use the existing 'em' dimensions the same way other browsers do. Of course, this

Re: [css-d] unfloated form drops in IE

2008-11-08 Thread Luc
Good evening Gunlaug, It was foretold that on 08/11/2008 @ 00:08:20 GMT+0100 (which was 21:08:20 where I live) Gunlaug Sørtun would write: snipped a bit Or the other way around: using an em/em based IE-expression and let IE6 use the existing 'em' dimensions the same way other browsers

[css-d] Unwanted Space in Firefox

2008-11-08 Thread Carla Bruni
I am struggling with this for a while. Here is the link http://www.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/techie.html Firefox shows huge space over tabs. In Explore looks alright. How to improve that? I am out of streamline ideas.Please give it a look. Thanks Carla

Re: [css-d] Site Check for IE layout issues

2008-11-08 Thread Frynge Customer Support
I'm not too sure what is causing that problem in MSIE... but this is the code... /div !-- end wbott_inner-- /div div class=clearfix/div !-- mcontent done -- !--footer-- FRYNGE here is where the spacing is taken place in the page in MSIE 7, Just before the home and talk to us - hope this

Re: [css-d] Site Check for IE layout issues

2008-11-08 Thread wwwebpro
Hi Suze, I hate to throw a wrench into the works but have you checked this page in Safari 3.03 or Firefox 3 on the Mac? It looks kind of odd to me, there are 3 empty blocks in the middle of the page and the radios are stacked on top of each other under the footer. In Safari the play all

Re: [css-d] Unwanted Space in Firefox

2008-11-08 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Nov 9, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Carla Bruni wrote: I am struggling with this for a while. Here is the link http://www.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ techie.html Firefox shows huge space over tabs. In Explore looks alright. How to improve that? I am out of streamline ideas.Please give it a