Re: [css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.

2010-08-26 Thread david
Thierry Koblentz wrote: They're not really changing the DOM (at least not IMO). You can't add tags and structure to the HTML with CSS - you can only change the value of text nodes (and then, only by adding to them). AFAIK, this is not changed either. The added content is purely *presentational

Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly "Floating images -understanding ...etc.)

2010-08-26 Thread David Laakso
Keith Purtell wrote: I will correct these errors asap. Thank you for taking time to critique my efforts. Css-d is an outstanding community resource. - Keith Purtell http://www.myspace.com/canyonsofthesky Coping with the World Wide Web is sometimes difficult. Hang around. Much fun an

Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts

2010-08-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/08/26 21:13 (GMT-0400) Cheryl Smith composed: > I think the list mom would call this off topic, and better asked on the WD > list. > WD list? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%5Bwd%5D+list&l=1 See also: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Off_Topic "Places where it would be appropriate to discuss

Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly "Floating images -understanding ...etc.)

2010-08-26 Thread Keith Purtell
I will correct these errors asap. Thank you for taking time to critique my efforts. Css-d is an outstanding community resource. - Keith Purtell http://www.myspace.com/canyonsofthesky __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org

Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts

2010-08-26 Thread Kevin Rodenhofer
http://webdesign-L.com On 8/26/2010 9:33 PM, Cheryl Smith wrote: My question was what is the WD list. Cheryl --- On Thu, 8/26/10, John D wrote: From: John D Subject: Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts To: "Cheryl Smith", "Felix Miata" Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Date: Thursday, August 26

Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts

2010-08-26 Thread Cheryl Smith
My question was what is the WD list.   Cheryl --- On Thu, 8/26/10, John D wrote: From: John D Subject: Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts To: "Cheryl Smith" , "Felix Miata" Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 6:22 PM > I think the list mom would call this off topic, a

Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts

2010-08-26 Thread John D
I think the list mom would call this off topic, and better asked on the WD list. Or even list papa __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http:

Re: [css-d] Web Safe Fonts

2010-08-26 Thread Cheryl Smith
I think the list mom would call this off topic, and better asked on the WD list. WD list?   Cheryl __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discus

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> >> I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. > > > > I don't think this has ever been an issue in webkit, but I may be > wrong > > In quirks mode, it is an issue, just as it is in Gecko, last I checked. Thanks Philippe, I recall that now. With browsers adding "px" to unit-less values

Re: [css-d] iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Adam Stemple wrote: > Is there a way to emulate the iPad from my normal > mac? If you are running OS X 10.6, you can download Xcode, Apples Developers Tools [*]. Those include simulators for iPhone, iPhone4 and iPad. It's not the real thing, for layout testing it w

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Aug 27, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: >> I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. > > I don't think this has ever been an issue in webkit, but I may be wrong In quirks mode, it is an issue, just as it is in Gecko, last I checked. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh htt

Re: [css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.

2010-08-26 Thread Tim Arnold
On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: > >> 200 >> >> With css for one page >> .negative:before {content: '-'} >> >> And for the other page, >> .negative:before {content: '(';} >> .negative:after {content: ')';} > > I'm not sure this a good example as this added content is only serve

Re: [css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.

2010-08-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> They're not really changing the DOM (at least not IMO). You can't add > tags and structure to the HTML with CSS - you can only change the value > of text nodes (and then, only by adding to them). AFAIK, this is not changed either. The added content is purely *presentational*. > 200 > > With c

Re: [css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.

2010-08-26 Thread Climis, Tim
> I think maybe CSS shouldn't change the Dom. They're not really changing the DOM (at least not IMO). You can't add tags and structure to the HTML with CSS - you can only change the value of text nodes (and then, only by adding to them). >Just trying to understand why they are there. So you c

Re: [css-d] [+] :after and :before psedo elements.

2010-08-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> Whats people opinion on this? Do they really belong in the CSS > specification. I think maybe CSS shouldn't change the Dom. Just trying > to understand why they are there. AFAIK, there is no change to the DOM tree -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | @thierrykoblentz __

[css-d] :after and :before psedo elements.

2010-08-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
Whats people opinion on this? Do they really belong in the CSS specification. I think maybe CSS shouldn't change the Dom. Just trying to understand why they are there. Wes __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.cs

Re: [css-d] [+] Re: iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> > You're probably right. I have noticed that some results are different > when * is not included, but haven't gotten clear on exactly what. > > -- > > I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. I don't think this has ever been an issue in webkit, but I may be wrong --

Re: [css-d] iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Rick Gordon
Yes, that was one of them. And I seem to recall that some head sizes were ultimately affected. -- On 8/26/10 at 12:14 PM -0700, Claude Needham wrote in a message entitled "Re: [css-d] iPad": >On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Rick Gordon wrote: >> You're probably right. I have

Re: [css-d] iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Claude Needham
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Rick Gordon wrote: > You're probably right. I have noticed that some results are different when * > is not included, but haven't gotten clear on exactly what. > -- I seem to recall that td does not inherit from body. Was this just for some proper

Re: [css-d] iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Rick Gordon
You're probably right. I have noticed that some results are different when * is not included, but haven't gotten clear on exactly what. -- On 8/26/10 at 11:44 AM -0700, Thierry Koblentz wrote in a message entitled "Re: [css-d] iPad": > > Add a -webkit-text-size-adjust tag to avo

Re: [css-d] iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> Add a -webkit-text-size-adjust tag to avoid small text being scaled up > to a minimum size: > > *, body { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } Isn't the same as: * { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } It is said that using the universal selector is bad regarding performance, would "-webkit-text-siz

Re: [css-d] iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Rick Gordon
Add a -webkit-text-size-adjust tag to avoid small text being scaled up to a minimum size: *, body { -webkit-text-size-adjust:100%; } Rick Gordon -- On 8/26/10 at 12:36 PM -0500, Adam Stemple wrote in a message entitled "[css-d] iPad": >I am trying to debug a WordPress site so

Re: [css-d] iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Claude Needham
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Adam Stemple wrote: > I am trying to debug a WordPress site so it will look/function better on the > iPad.  The site is www.madwomanintheforest.com.  It was odd, because I found > that the front page was messed up in different ways on side by side iPads. > Has any

[css-d] iPad

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Stemple
I am trying to debug a WordPress site so it will look/function better on the iPad. The site is www.madwomanintheforest.com. It was odd, because I found that the front page was messed up in different ways on side by side iPads. Has anyone run into this? Is there a way to emulate the iPad from my

Re: [css-d] Off topic, web hosting help

2010-08-26 Thread Claude Needham
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Tomasz Kisielewski wrote: > Hi > I know this list is about CSS, but I don't trust google.com when searching > for web hosting. I need basic host for drupal, joomla  just for my business. > I have no experience in this field, I can do programming and design but > ho

Re: [css-d] Off topic, web hosting help

2010-08-26 Thread Tomasz Kisielewski
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS TOPIC ANYMORE its done, over , thanks for your help OBEY THE RULES it is off topic On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Claude Needham wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:34 AM, Tomasz Kisielewski > wrote: > > Hi > > I know this list is about CSS, but I don't trust goog

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help and OOCSS

2010-08-26 Thread Reese
On 26 Aug 10 12:39 PM, Tomasz Kisielewski wrote: ... seen couple more off-topic threads on this list recently, but I have to say my post made Eric really upset, is it because I didn't try to pretend asking ... It is not my intention to speak for Eric, but I doubt that he is upset at you. He is

Re: [css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?

2010-08-26 Thread Claude Needham
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Lineberger, Scott wrote: > http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html > Does anyone have any suggested CSS coding that would streamline this page? > Scott The fundamental problem with this page is the factor of 15. You have a list of possible products listed 15

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help

2010-08-26 Thread Tomasz Kisielewski
Thanks, I have learnt the lesson, http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Off_Topic should have checked this before. I think that this is good point to stop this "discussion" it is a bit off-topic is not related to CSS by to my stupidity, incopetence, lack of common sense, call it whatever you want. I

Re: [css-d] Help with multi-column drop-down menu

2010-08-26 Thread David Laakso
Wesley Acheson wrote: Forgot the link http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?page=3&cid=27F87 btw the search I'm doing is "list columns css" What does everyone think does this work in the wild? Regards, Wesley Yes, it will work just fine-- assuming of course that you tr

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help

2010-08-26 Thread Jack Timmons
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Tomasz Kisielewski wrote: > Yes I did, I am very sorry, but I explained why I did what I did. Where is > the best place to  find independent help and advice ? If you look in the signature tacked on to every single email sent through the list, you'll find a pletho

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help

2010-08-26 Thread Tomasz Kisielewski
Yes I did, I am very sorry, but I explained why I did what I did. Where is the best place to find independent help and advice ? "It makes no more sense to post such a request here than it does to start posting knitting advice, political chain letters, videogame walkthroughs, evidence in support of

Re: [css-d] kthings 02 (Formerly "Floating images -understanding ...etc.)

2010-08-26 Thread David Laakso
Keith Purtell wrote: Hope this is what you wanted... http://www.keithpurtell.com/kthings/a_body_vance_divs.htm - Keith Purtell http://www.myspace.com/canyonsofthesky What is your uri? Best, ~d Keith, I am not sure what the question is but anyway some observations:

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Off topic, web hosting help

2010-08-26 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 2:34 PM +0100 8/26/10, Tomasz Kisielewski wrote: It is not my intention to spam the list... And yet you did, and knowingly too. It seems to me really very simple: if you know a post is off topic for a list, then you already know it shouldn't be posted to the list. People joined th

Re: [css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?

2010-08-26 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Chris Blake wrote: I disagree. There are ways to style forms, so why not!? Streamlined makes me think that you're talking about speed so maybe adding images and things isn't such a good idea in that sense but would make it look better. Ermm, google it - there's lots out there. 'styling forms w

Re: [css-d] Off topic, web hosting help

2010-08-26 Thread Peter Coates
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[css-d] Off topic, web hosting help

2010-08-26 Thread Tomasz Kisielewski
Hi I know this list is about CSS, but I don't trust google.com when searching for web hosting. I need basic host for drupal, joomla just for my business. I have no experience in this field, I can do programming and design but hosting,domain registrationhave never done it. Will register domain

Re: [css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?

2010-08-26 Thread Chris Blake
http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html Does anyone have any suggested CSS coding that would streamline this page? Not really, no. CSS cannot be used to reduce *content*, only to style it. Your issue is one of markup - how best to represent thousands of items in a form - and, thus,

Re: [css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?

2010-08-26 Thread Bobby Jack
--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Lineberger, Scott wrote: > http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html > > Does anyone have any suggested CSS coding that would > streamline this page? Not really, no. CSS cannot be used to reduce *content*, only to style it. Your issue is one of markup - how best to repr

[css-d] Can CSS get me out of the stone age?

2010-08-26 Thread Lineberger, Scott
If you click on the link below and then look at the source code, you will see a tremendous amount of duplicate antiquated html coding that I am sure could be coded much more efficiently using CSS. http://www.coastalind.com/ciordersample.html Does anyone have any suggested CSS coding that would

Re: [css-d] Help with multi-column drop-down menu

2010-08-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
Forgot the link http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?page=3&cid=27F87 btw the search I'm doing is "list columns css" What does everyone think does this work in the wild? Regards, Wesley On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Wesley Acheson wrote: > Actually this one looks more promisin

Re: [css-d] Help with multi-column drop-down menu

2010-08-26 Thread Wesley Acheson
Actually this one looks more promising. As an aside I'm used to my mailing lists having the reply-to header On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Wesley Acheson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Tim Wolf wrote: >> I've built a prototype drop-down menu based on the Suckerfish model with >>