apr 27 2014 18:34 Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com:
Perhaps I'm using list in a more general term. Someone *on* the list
has been compromised. And you are correct, it is difficult to figure
out where it's coming from. My main point was that I don't get these
messages outside of this list.
apr 27 2014 20:12 Eric e...@minerbits.com:
I don't think running IE 9, 10 or 11 is a good idea right now until they fix
the
new security bug issue that was announced
Here's a short article about it
apr 27 2014 12:18 Jens O. Meiert j...@meiert.com:
Just following with one ear but why would that be irrelevant?
Read the OP.
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I didn’t get the original for this. Eric?
apr 25 2014 03:21 John Johnson j...@coffeeonmars.com:
certainly seems appropriate to me…I’d vote “yes” for the powers that be to
consider.
I’m for it as long as there is a clear connection to CSS, which there typically
is.
25 apr MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com:
I didn’t get the original for this. Eric?
Andrews original was found in the spam folder for unknown reasons.
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apr 26 2014 00:36 Reese howel...@inkworkswell.com:
CSS pre-processors do not write optimized code by default, it is very
easy to write code that will result in bloat and reduced performance.
It didn't take much Googling to find this article:
apr 21 2014 21:37 Jennifer jenni...@superiorshelving.com:
It seems that there should be a way to 'fix' this. I know it works, since
I've tried it on a simple page, so it looks like I'll have to start stripping
out other CSS to see what's interfering with the footer. And I thought this
apr 22 2014 01:14 MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com:
apr 21 2014 21:37 Jennifer jenni...@superiorshelving.com:
It seems that there should be a way to 'fix' this. I know it works, since
I've tried it on a simple page, so it looks like I'll have to start
stripping out other CSS to see
apr 19 2014 16:00 Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com:
4. Lastly, use ems for images as well. That way your entire site scales well
with zooms. Here's my write-up on it:
The downside is unacceptable to me, as ems for image width doesn’t respect
zoom only text”. I’d use percentages for width
apr 102014 12:36 Georg ge...@gunlaug.com:
I agree in principle, but guess how much you play by the market, or not,
depends on whether you are trying to sell something, or not. :-)
FWIW, I have no first in mind when designing, only all...
apr 10 2014 16:19 Davies, Elizabeth elizabeth_dav...@gallup.com:
the Mobile First philosophy brought many wins with it. Perhaps the name is
misleading and it should be Simplicity First or Basics First
;D
I liked that one.
”get” the need to design at
the content level, at least not when they are doing the content. It’s possible
I need to find people to work with that can do content so I can focus on
server-side and interface design.
/MiB
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apr 9 2014 08:48 Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com:
Looks like there are some exceptions. Have a look see...
There ARE a few that took on the browser width, but the majority stuck with
their parent.
http://designdrumm.com/percentage_test.html
Which are the exceptions you mean?
mar 28 2014 15:52 D Mark Weiss dadwe...@mac.com:
Some of the implementations that I have seen kind of have a black or greyed
out border and in the top right corner have an X for closing the floating
editing window.
That sounds like the good ol’ lightbox technique. Lightboxes can be used
mar 26 2014 17:54 Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk:
Testing can reveal only the presence of bugs, not their absence
-- Edsger Dijskstra (11 May 1930 – 6 August 2002)
Edsger was an avid tester was he?
An automated test written to get rid of a specific bug, does indeed prove that
this
mar 17 2014 20:21 SSC_perl p...@surfshopcart.com:
I almost hate to ask this, but would it be possible for someone to test my
page on an Android phone to make sure it works? Unfortunately, everyone I
know has an iPhone.
I haven’t verified the trustworthiness of these, but useful for a
mar 17 2014 05:10 John j...@coffeeonmars.com:
I think I'm getting closer to understand how to use this new (to me) method
of positioning, but I don't get what it's relative to, such that Firefox
renders it differently from Opera, Chrome and Safari..
Absolute positioning is relative to the
mar 17 2014 08:35 MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com:
mar 17 2014 05:10 John j...@coffeeonmars.com:
I think I'm getting closer to understand how to use this new (to me) method
of positioning, but I don't get what it's relative to, such that Firefox
renders it differently from Opera, Chrome
mar 13 2014 23:02 MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com:
mar 13 2014 Ezequiel Garzón garzon.luc...@gmail.com:
http://81.4.104.136/fonts.html
I don’t see your issue in Android nor in IOS. Anyone else?
I have now tested this page on several other Android hand sets and the text
sizes of both
mar 14 2014 00:24 L. David Baron dba...@dbaron.org:
On Sunday 2014-03-09 21:52 +0100, Ezequiel Garzón wrote:
Is this font boosting/inflation?
It sounds like it is.
Could it be that only certain android versions are affected? I’ve never
encountered this issue on any platform before. I also
mar 13 2014 Ezequiel Garzón garzon.luc...@gmail.com:
http://81.4.104.136/fonts.html
I don’t see your issue in Android nor in IOS. Anyone else?
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mar 12 2014 22:07 Ezequiel Garzón garzon.luc...@gmail.com:
I specified in my example td,p { font-size: medium }. I would hence expect
the font size in my very simple table and in my single paragraph to be the
same, whether I include a meta viewport tag or not. It turns out it only
happens
mar 10 2014 21:54 Ezequiel Garzón garzon.luc...@gmail.com:
I again feel font size in particular is not supposed to be
affected by this meta tag
Feel? Incongruent with something (what?) would seem more appropriate. Case in
point?
Jon Reece jon.re...@gmail.com:
Since transform is still an experimental feature of CSS3, you'll need to
use vendor prefixes:
.tilt-2d {
-webkit-transform: rotate(25deg);
-moz-transform: rotate(25deg);
transform: rotate(25deg);
}
The reason the codepen example works without them is
17 feb 2014 kl. 08:33 skrev MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com:
You could also use microformats and make it a part of a hcard (look
some text fell off there. It should be: You could also use microformats and
make it a part of a hcard (look up microformats and hcard
at and here too
feb 16 2014 23:49 Andrew Cunningham lang.supp...@gmail.com:
The problem with b and i is that HTML5 gives them semantic meaning but
they also have inherent styling.
How is that different from any semantical element?
Of I use these elements in a multilingual envirnonment, then for some
feb 15 2014 06:22 Chris Williams ch...@clwill.com:
And how do they do that? How does the server know the user's page width?
By their going to m.example.com as opposed to example.com. Or with JS…
Javascript analysis of screen type will take care of a majority of users and
feed the relevant
, the choices a developer will have to make is
about a complete system rather than individual solution.
/MiB
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feb 17 2014 18:05 Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh sandy.pittendr...@gmail.com:
So
at higher big picture level some discussion about how CSS fits into the
overall scheme of things still seems appropriate.
Exactly.
Using Javascript cookies and (initially) a double GET to determine the
state of
MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com:
the choices a developer will have to make is about a complete system rather
than individual solution.
Solutions obviously. Sorry about that.
/MiB
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17 feb 2014 kl. 18:35 skrev Richard Grevers richard.grev...@gmail.com:
But if the differentiation
of such text matters, it makes sense to use markup that will differentiate
it regardless of the availability of CSS.
A valid point.
In most cases this is em or
strong, often with a class to
feb 17 2014 18:51 Micky Hulse mickyhulse.li...@gmail.com:
Ya'll, I hate to be rude, but isn't markup debates a little OT for CSS-d?
Actually it is indeed OT, except for where it ties in directly with CSS.
References to external discussions on the topic are not OT, IMHO.
So good point.
feb 14 2014 19:59 Chris Williams ch...@clwill.com:
that's Javascript, and while a worthwhile topic and
a useful method used more and more lately, it's off-topic here. Solves
several of the issues with separate sites, but adds another language,
testing, and layer of complexity.
I fail to
feb 17 2014 03:43 Alan L.S. Steytler c...@steytler.com:
...but I don't have it.
http://robertgarritylaw.com/Alt_index.html
The image should stand by itself, centered, with the succeeding text below.
Viewed in various devices, and various browsers, it's all over the place.
Center the
19 jan 2014 kl. 21:47 skrev Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk:
first-word
is not a functional nor valid css pseudo element, is it? So…?
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jan 19 2014 21:38 Larry Martell larry.mart...@gmail.com:
In my example, in the first option, I would need 12S left justified
and by_target right justified.
You’re very likely to need a javascript solution, I think. There is one
discussion concerning this problem here:
jan 17 2014 15:58 Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com:
As an example, i've got 8 page templates well under way and my
minified sheet is 23k. Does that sound bad?
You have only text content an no media files? It’s the total weight that counts
after all. What’s the totals? And if different, where
dec 202013 01:16 Rick Gordon li...@rickgordon.com:
I think a good criterion is this: If you were looking at the content, in an
undesigned, purely logical order, what order would the code fall in?
Since this is headings these should make sense in an HTML5 outliner like this
one
dec 20 2013 20:15 Greg Gamble ggam...@sbctc.edu:
Pages should have headers in order, with one H1 on top.
I disagree. In html5, it's perfectly correct to sectionalize different parts of
the content and have a new header structure within each section with a top H1
per section element and
dec 21 2013 03:18 John j...@coffeeonmars.com:
am I right thinking this is an inheritance issue?
the descendent nav li” selector will of course affect all such elements unless
you override them. The footer li” selector at the linked page overrides the
display and font-size of ”nav li.
dec 14 2013 22.38 Angela French:
I figured it out. I had to discover how google was referencing the input.
One nice way to discover this is to use the built-in developer tools in
Firefox. I suppose other browsers also have developer tools that gives this
functionality, but I always start in
We're supposed to see a progress bar at this link?
http://www.surfshopcart.com/cgi-bin/demos/2/shop.cgi
I'm sorry, but I don't have time to look around for what is the problem and I'd
assume this applies to many other people as well. Present the issue if you want
help.
Why don't do a focused
dec 4 2013 16.17 Chris Rockwell:
That being said, this seems like a case
where you'd want to use something like 'visibility:hidden' or 'hidden' or
http://snook.ca/archives/html_and_css/hiding-content-for-accessibility.
That should make it accessible and it works on an android browser (stock
1 dec 2013 kl. 22.56 skrev Karl DeSaulniers:
Sorry. Didn't read an article. I plugged in my iPhone and when I went to go
inspect a page in safari, I saw a menu option with my phones name. Hovered
over it and it said no device page found or something like that. So I then
opened safari on
1 dec 2013 kl. 09.32 skrev Karl DeSaulniers:
Didn't know if you all knew this but evidently in Safari 6.1 (on Mac as far
as I know) when you have your phone plugged into your computer (i am using an
iPhone 5) and a webpage displaying on your phone, you can now inspect the
webpage on your
nov 18 2013 05.11 David Hucklesby:
If you have Chrome on a Mac, I'd be grateful if you let me know whether you
see
this phenomenon. Could be something to do with my install (on Mavericks,
FWIW).
Works in Chrome 29.
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18 nov 2013 kl. 05.11 skrev David Hucklesby:
While this works in modern browsers, the marker disappears in Chrome v.31.0
for
Mac. In this simplified Pen, it disappears on :hover. With slightly more
complex
CSS it does not appear on Chrome at all. (Okay on Chrome for Windows.)
David, it's
nov 19 2013 14.55 Barney Carroll:
David has discovered a bug in Chrome 31 whereby rules featuring
concurrent positioning pseudo-classes on the same element are removed from
the DOM when the affected element is hovered.
I can't vouch for hover as I don't see this element to begin with in
nov 19 2013 15.10 Barney Carroll:
On 19 November 2013 14:01, MiB digital.disc...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't vouch for hover as I don't see this element to begin with in Chrome
31.
That's very interesting. This is what I get:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNyGy47YNHc
It seems turning
On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Chris Rockwell ch...@chrisrockwell.com wrote:
Except that to position the link inside the table cell isn't the only
solution, Why not on a new row for instance? Why must the link belong on
the exact same row? I don't see that.
Should the link not
16 nov 2013 kl. 01.23 skrev David Hucklesby:
Glad you got some JavaScript that works, Sara. Here's Chris Coyier's solution:
http://css-tricks.com/absolutely-position-element-within-a-table-cell/
Great! This is what I imagined as a potential start point for a solution,
However, To forego
nov 16 2013 18.07 Chris Rockwell:
The JavaScript is necessary in Chris' solution because the height needs to be
set in something other than percentage or auto to get the added element (div
or otherwise) to fill the td vertically.
Good catch.
I agree that in some cases it could be a
15 nov 2013 kl. 15.51 skrev Jon Reece:
Not really an illustration app, but Macaw's tagline is Stop writing code.
Start drawing it.
http://macaw.co/
Ahhh, and you tell us now. This really looks like the real
[whatveryourcurrentdevelopmentapp]-killer. At least all of those dreadful
nov 14 2013 14.43 Sara Haradhvala:
I ended up using JavaScript to set the height of each cell - that seems to
work in all browsers!
In theory, if no-one is using a browser with javascript turned off.
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nov 14 2013 23.12 Karl DeSaulniers:
Which is highly unlikely now a days or I should say most of the people that
are part of a target market one would direct to will not be disabling it. I
think it is also safe to say the vast majority of people don't even know how
to turn it off nor that
nov 12 19.14 COM:
This is cool and all, but…seriously, is CSS being touted as an illustration
tool?
Am I missing a concept here?
If it's possible someone will make it a part of an illustration software tool.
My guess would be not Adobe.
I am very impressed by the samples shown…
But is
12 nov 2013 kl. 22.39 skrev Tim Arnold:
I think impressing was the main goal. That, and to an an exercise in what
if?
So how difficult would it be to implement CSS in a graphics app you think? I'd
say it's doable. If it's an attractive feature today I'm not sure. But it could
of course
nov 13 2013 06.30 Theresa Jennings:
I think they're more proof of concept than anything else.
Of course, but what about in three years? Someone will always be going there
first.
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11 nov 2013 21.06 Chris Rockwell:
responsive design is fluid design
I do think that here a better term, than fluid design, is adaptive design,
which means the design will adapt to the context. Fluid leads the thought to
a specific set of design techniques, which do not give the complete
11 nov 2013 21.38 Chris Rockwell:
I see your point MiB. I was trying to make the point that fluid design
responds to the screen size, adding in breakpoints only enhances that
response.
Yes, that's currently how I do it technically too, but it's of course just a
set of possible techniques
9 nov 2013 03.08 Karl DeSaulniers:
body nav li#about-us {
/*Apply styles for current page*/
}
Does the same thing.
No, it doesn't. :-)
You need one varying page (or rather site section) identifier that is different
on every page as in the as you will have several descendent selectors:
8 nov 2013 03.09 Karl DeSaulniers:
Ah I see. Well normally you wouldn't put an ID on the body anyways, you would
put a class wouldn't you? That is if your trying to style it.
What's the logic behind choosing a class attribute here? Is it mostly for
semantic reasons? Semantically I can see
8 nov 2013 12.08 Karl DeSaulniers:
I just Id the container div and go from there.
Well, I guess the more we are moving away from the page concept as such towards
marked up self-containing and context-adapting packages that could turn up in
several places, then any page construct identified
8 nov 2013 23.47 John D:
What is the advantage of using an ID here?
Identifying a particular page on the site. This can be used for instance in
descending selectors for the navigation:
body#about-us-page nav li#about-us {
/*Apply styles for current page*/
}
//and with class for a
26 oct 2013 17.01 Colin (Sandy) Pittendrigh:
Or is there a current benefit--that's worth the effort--of using the new
stuff now?
Always embrace the latest browsers and work with that, simply giving older
browsers another experience. You can also use poly-fils to some extent while
the older
What's up with the top posting from people like Chris Rockwell, Tom Livingston,
Karl Desaulniers and Theresa Jennings (a few). I'm usually quite tolerant to
this, but I quickly lost interest in the problem and any solutions when usage
of this was as widespread as in this thread.
The ideal is
9 oct 2013 14.25 Eric A. Meyer:
whatever your reply style, you trim the quoted material to include only that
which is relevant and absolutely necessary to your reply, and no more.
This trimming is central to make any response fully available. One may ask
since when great designers does
9 okt 2013 16.28 Karl Snyder:
Also, chopping the heck out the original post might make it impossible for
those who are not keeping the current thread in the brains, from knowing
exactly what you are taking about.
Well, leaving an unedited mess below your response forcing the user to scroll
9 oct 2013 18.23 Philip Taylor:
I sent the following two replies off-list, but as our esteemed
leader has not ruled the discussion off-topic, I repeat
them here so that all points of view may be considered.
I guess it's your kind of common courtesy to repost private email
correspondence
1 okt 2013 11.25 Karl DeSaulniers:
Can anyone help me? I am looking to create a DIV that is centered
horizontally and vertically in the window and inside this div I have images
and text and the like. I want the images and the text to stay inside this
div. How can I go about this?
View
1 oct 2013 12.09 Karl DeSaulniers:
Great example! Thank you.
I'm a little dizzy now though. :)
I have usually done my centering with top: 50% left: 50% and negative margins
on one div.
Is this not a standard way of accomplishing this? I noticed you used 3 divs
for centering.
Is this
1 okt 2013 kl. 12.29 skrev Karl DeSaulniers:
What is using a # before a property called? Like this line in your code.
What are you doing here? Sorry for any elementary questions,
It's fallback css for browsers that don't acknowledge display:table. There are
many levels to understand with
1 okt 2013 13.24 Karl DeSaulniers:
Last question for now. In your resizing box example,
how would you get the text to scale with box, as well as,
say an image and another div with an image in it?
Is there a css way to do this besides zoom like a scale or transformMatrix or
is zoom the
1 okt 2013 15.10 Chris Rockwell:
If absolute positioning is an option, a simple, clean way is:
.centeredElement {
position: absolute;
margin: 0 auto;
left: 0;
right: 0;
top: 0;
bottom: 0;
height: 300px;
width: 300px;
}
http://codepen.io/chrisrockwell/pen/Ffjul
1 okt 2013 kl. 16.16 skrev Chris Rockwell:
What browser are you viewing in? It works for me in ff,chrome,ie10
It fails in Chrome.
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1 okt 2013 kl. 16.22 skrev Chris Rockwell:
What version? It's fine in 29.0.1547.76 m and 32.0.1657.2 canary Aura
Chrome 29.0.1547.65 on Mac. Height isn't respected. Also, what happens if
height is an unknown and the box needs to accommodate different content?
1 okt 2013 15.10 Chris Rockwell:
If absolute positioning is an option, a simple, clean way is:
.centeredElement {
position: absolute;
margin: 0 auto;
left: 0;
right: 0;
top: 0;
bottom: 0;
height: 300px;
width: 300px;
}
Ok, so now I tried this with only the rules
1 okt 2013 19.33 Chris Rockwell:
I see, I did type margin: 0 auto in the email. David pointed this out, but
when I checked I **only** checked the pen, I didn't go back in the email to
double check. It should be:
Yes, thanks this helped. I guess I missed that part as I always have 0 auto
1 oct 2013 19.42 Tom Livingston:
This is a viable solution under the right circumstances.
And just what did I just say?
The solutions I linked to are worse, are they?
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