[CTRL] CORRECTED Re: [CTRL] An American Dictatorship: Ralph Nader's Vision for America

2000-08-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
Nurev If capitalism continues much longer, we will become the first species to become extinct due to insanity. Bill Amen JACKson! MJ Shouldn't capitalism FIRST be implemented? You *DO* know the difference between PRIVATE and Government. Regard$, --MJ A totalitarian state thri

Re: [CTRL] An American Dictatorship: Ralph Nader's Vision for America

2000-08-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
Nurev If capitalism continues much longer, we will become the first species to become extinct due to insanity. Bill Amen JACKson! MJ Shouldn't capitalism will FIRST be implemented? You *DO* know the difference between PRIVATE and Government. Regard$, --MJ A totalitarian state

[CTRL] A Post-Liberal America

2000-06-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
~~for educational purposes only~~ A Post-Liberal America by Paul Gottfried On all side of contemporary political debate, one key shibboleth is both widely conceded and little examined: that we now decisively have entered a post-liberal phase of American political life. This belief, like all ideo

Re: [CTRL] What a pathetic democracy.

2000-06-07 Thread M.A. Johnson
Joshua2 If we're REAL lucky we can get the biggest, most corrupt government on earth to pass laws that will shut down one of its most lucrative operations. Legalized bribery. How to do this? By encouraging the self same slime to accept ' finance reform ' or some water

Re: [CTRL] Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys last year

2000-06-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
Eagle 1 Could this mean that the system IS working? MJ No. There is absolutely no possible method for determining whether or not this Constitutional violation stopped or prohibited *any* person from obtaining a gun. It might have prevented a person from purchasing a gun at a 'background

[CTRL] Anti-trust, Anti-truth

2000-06-03 Thread M.A. Johnson
~~for educational purposes only~~ Anti-trust, Anti-truth By Thomas J. DiLorenzo Joel Klein, the third-rate lawyer/political hack who is in charge of the government's Microsoft persecution, recently tried to rationalize the lawsuit by saying that it was in keeping with the long history of consume

Re: [CTRL] China-trade vote: The bribes have it? No, the ignorant is simply misguided.

2000-05-25 Thread M.A. Johnson
Waste your vote! Vote for Patrick Buchanan! Protectionism and the Destruction of Prosperity By Murray N. Rothbard Protectionism, often refuted and seemingly abandoned, has returned, and with a vengeance. The Japanese, who bounced back from grievous losses in World War II to astound the world by

Re: [CTRL] A Thomas Sowell Editorial

2000-05-24 Thread M.A. Johnson
MJ Why not explain WHY Dr. Sowell's piece is 'nonsense' rather than utilizing Hillary Clinton's tact at diverting attention from substance and to personalities -- real or imagined. Bill Who said it was "nonsense"?? MJ Note 'nonsense' in quotes ... this was implied.

Re: [CTRL] A Thomas Sowell Editorial

2000-05-24 Thread M.A. Johnson
Bill OK...5 million posts a day is one thing but now we're subject to every right-wing republican's editorials too??? Yuck! Please cease the insanity! MJ Why not explain WHY Dr. Sowell's piece is 'nonsense' rather than utilizing Hillary Clinton's tact at diverting attention from subst

Re: [CTRL] Corporatizing water.

2000-05-18 Thread M.A. Johnson
The Government has been 'monopolizing' and selling this for years. Regard$, --MJ In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. -- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day 1970 http://www.ctrl.org/">www

[CTRL] Reichstag Fires on Campus

2000-05-06 Thread M.A. Johnson
~~for educational purposes only~~ Reichstag Fires on Campus by William Anderson A recent racial incident at Iowa State University brought to light what has been a scandalous trend in U.S. higher education. For several days, a black male dental school student received numerous racist e-mails, and

[CTRL] Free Trade, Mercantilism, and Empire

2000-02-29 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- ~~for educational purposes only~~ Free Trade, Mercantilism, and Empire by Joseph R. Stromberg HOW TO HAVE 'FREE TRADE' Most people these days outside of certain left-wing and right-wing populist circles understand that global trade tends

Re: [CTRL] How it's done. American politics and the illusion of democracy. #1

2000-02-29 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Nurev: All of the "acceptable" candidates running for President of the United States of America are rich, white, Protestant, Capitalist, Internationalist, Free Traders. MJ: Bullshit. They have NO interest in capitalism OR Free T

[CTRL] The Gates-Rockefeller Myth

2000-02-24 Thread M.A. Johnson (by way of \&quot;M.A. Johnson\" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- ~~for educational purposes only~~ The Gates-Rockefeller Myth By Thomas J. DiLorenzo The judge in the Microsoft antitrust trial, Thomas Penfield Jackson, recently stated that he "didn't see a distinction" between Bill Gates's Microsoft Corpor

Re: [CTRL] On Corporate Power (fwd)

2000-02-12 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Spitzer: Read this and then tell me if there is ANYONE that still thinks that corporate money and power does not determine policy making in this country? MJ: Power for politicians determine 'policy' in this country -- buying vo

Re: [CTRL] Joseph McCarthy's charges 'now accepted as fact'

2000-02-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- the_extremist: Jon Utley, a former foreign correspondent in Latin America and a longtime commentator for the Voice of America, is the Robert A. Taft Fellow for Constitutional and International Studies at the Ludwig von

Re: [CTRL] Dismal economic system. Dismal science.

1999-11-11 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Joshua forwarded: The Growth Consensus Unravels Jonathan Rowe, Dollars and Sense It was John Maynard Keynes, after all, who devised the growth-boosting mechanisms of macroeconomic policy to combat the Depression of the 1930s; it was Keynesians who emb

[CTRL] Antitrust and Microsoft

1999-11-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Antitrust and Microsoft by Dominick Armentano The Microsoft Corporation's continuing difficulties with the Department of Justice, even after an appeals court ruled in the company's favor, reveal the absurdity of attempting to apply 19th-century antitrust law to a 21st-century co

Re: [CTRL] Microsoft and liberty

1999-11-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Microsoft and liberty Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. Is free enterprise legal in America or not? Joshua This isn't free enterprise. It's monopoly capitalism. The natural outcome of of unregulated free enterprise. Monopoly Capitalism is more destructive than global w

[CTRL] Microsoft and liberty

1999-11-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ Microsoft and liberty Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. Is free enterprise legal in America or not? That is the fundamental question raised by federal judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's 207-page "Findings of Fact" against Microsoft. Here's a judge who has

Re: [CTRL] Micrsoft: A Predatory Monopoly--Wall Street Journal (fwd)

1999-11-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- A Predatory Monopoly monopoly Exclusive possession of the trade in some article of merchandise; the condition of having no competitor in the sale of some commodity, or in the exercise of some trade or business. Oh, you mean ... The MONOPOLY Federal Judge agrees the MONOPOLY J

Re: [CTRL] A Clinton third term??? ...again. (fwd)

1999-11-02 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: Also does anyone know the status of H.J. RES. 17, proposing an amendment to the Constitution to repeal the twenty-second amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms a president may serve? MJ: WHAT limitations? By utilizing th

Re: [CTRL] ABOLISH THE FDA?--YES!

1999-11-02 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: If we could just get it back to the policies it used about forty years ago, it would be fine. That was before it was sold lock, stock and barrel to the pharmaceutical companies. MJ: If this were TRUE, why is it a ten year (on average) $300 mill

Re: [CTRL] ABOLISH THE FDA?--YES!

1999-11-02 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: What of all the deaths from delays, bloated costs and failure to approve otherwise legitimate products? Tenorlove wrote: Read my previous post again. MJ: Funny, the words were ordered in the same manner and related the SAME meaning. Regard$, --MJ While the Pobb

Re: [CTRL] ABOLISH THE FDA?--YES!

1999-11-02 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove wrote: I don't know about abolish; after all, they refused to approve thalidomide for morning sickness, saving thousands of U.S. babies from horrible birth defects. MJ: What of all the deaths from delays, bloated costs and failure to approve otherwise legitimate

Re: [CTRL] Ralph Nader & Public Citizen: WTO is weakening health laws

1999-10-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Dave wrote: By MICHAEL PAULSON Mail Author SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT WASHINGTON -- Detailing criticisms likely to form the basis for much of the protest in Seattle next The World Trade Organization (WTO) The World Trade Organizati

Re: [CTRL] Reaffirm Your Commitment to the American Founding

1999-10-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Joshua America's founding principles were concocted by our Founding Finaglers who are well described by the philosophers below. The Founding Finaglers made damn sure that the institutions of power they constructed for themselves would never completely be u

Re: [CTRL] Propaganda in a Democratic Society

1999-09-27 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Sean McDougal forwarded: There are two kinds of propaganda - rational propaganda in favor of action that is consonant with the enlightened self-interest of those who make it and those to whom it is addressed, and non-rational propaganda that is not consonant

[CTRL] The Mythology of Roosevelt and the New Deal

1999-09-19 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ The Mythology of Roosevelt and the New Deal by Robert Higgs The Great Depression was a watershed in American history. Soon after Herbert Hoover assumed the presidency in 1929, the economy began to decline, and between 1930 and 1933 the contract

[CTRL] Great Myths of the Great Depression

1999-09-19 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ Great Myths of the Great Depression by Lawrence W. Reed Many volumes have been written about the Great Depression and its impact on the lives of millions of Americans. Historians, economists, and politicians have all combed the wreckage searchi

[CTRL] The Central Fallacy of Public Schooling

1999-09-19 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ The Central Fallacy of Public Schooling by Daniel Hager [Daniel Haer is a writer in Lansing, Michigan] When World War II ended, Congress authorized a tax cut to take effect January 1, 1946. YoungAmerica, a publication distributed through publ

[CTRL] The Origins of the Public School

1999-09-19 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ The Origins of the Public School by Robert P. Murphy [Robert Murphy is a recent graduate from Hillsdale College in Michigan] Hardly anyone disputes the contention that the modern public school is seriously flawed. Test scores continue to be

Re: [CTRL] Godless Commie Rat!!!

1999-09-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: Capitalism has NEVER existed. Please explain how forcibly taking from SOME and giving this to others is moral. SM: CAPITALISM has existed for centuries and leaves no room for truly representative government, be it socialism or any kind of truly free ma

Re: [CTRL] Godless Commie Rat!!!

1999-09-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter: If it *doesn't* work, it don't matter diddly-squat what its moral attributes may be - it's dead. And if the participants *don't* benefit, it can hardly be considered 'moral'. Joshua Not really. Something doesn't have to work to be moral. What Hi

[CTRL] Yours and mine

1999-09-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ Yours and mine by Walter Williams TOM BETHELL, a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution and Washington correspondent for "The American Spectator," has just penned an excellent book titled ""The Noblest Triumph: Property and Prosperity Throug

Re: [CTRL] Godless Commie Rat!!!

1999-09-14 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Joshua quoted: Of all the modern economic theories, the economic system of Marxism is founded on moral principles, while capitalism is concerned with only with gain and profitability. Marxism is concerned with the distribution of wealth on an equal basis and the e

Re: [CTRL] This is news?

1999-09-12 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Joshua forwarded: As the United States approaches to the 2000 presidential race, in which more money will be spent than ever, the fact must be faced that American has become a plutocracy, rather than a democracy. MJ: America was never intended to be a Democra

Re: [CTRL] The Rich Get Richer, and the Poor Get...

1999-09-12 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Nurev Ind Research wrote: Don't be fooled by these oinkres' propaganda. MJ: Ad hominem Joshua: If the shoe fits... MJ: It is your shoe and apparently it fits your foot as you continue to concentrate on the individual making the statement rather than the statem

Re: [CTRL] The glorious Welfare State economic system.

1999-09-11 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Nurev Ind Research wrote: What kind of human being are you really if you can advocate for this system? Minimum Wage Workers Unable to Afford Rent Anywhere in Nation MJ: Why do you insist upon calling an orange a banana? Regard$, --MJ I sit on a man's back, choki

Re: [CTRL] The Rich Get Richer, and the Poor Get...

1999-09-11 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Nurev Ind Research wrote: Don't be fooled by these oinkres' propaganda. MJ: Ad hominem Nurev Ind Research wrote: The problem with unequal income distribution is NOT inequality. The problem is CONCENTRATION OF WEALTH into the hands of fewer and fewer people. This i

[CTRL] Federal Government Growth Before the New Deal

1999-09-11 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Federal Government Growth Before the New Deal by Randall G. Holcombe Popular opinion holds that most of the credit (or blame) for the incredible growth of the federal government should go to President Franklin D. Roosevelt and his New Deal. While Roosevelt certainly was a willin

[CTRL] Guardians of the Constitution or Watching Out for Their Own?

1999-09-11 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- The Supreme Court of the United States: Guardians of the Constitution or Watching Out for Their Own? by Daniel J. Pilla By the very terms of the Constitution, all judicial officers, as well as others in government service, "shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation" to support the

[CTRL] The Rich Get Richer, and the Poor Get...

1999-09-10 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ The Rich Get Richer, and the Poor Get... by Mark Skousen "The modern market economy accords wealth and distribution income in a highly unequal, socially adverse and also functionally damaging fashion." --John Kenneth Galbraith The allegation i

Re: [CTRL] textbook propaganda (fwd)

1999-09-09 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- >From Sean: Well. My senior honors government/economics class is well into the first chapter now, and something's disturbed me about our textbook. Section 3 of the book gives a basic run down of different economic systems and how they work. There is a section fo

Re: [CTRL] The 10th Amendment (fwd)

1999-08-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- The authority for Executive Order BEYOND the Executive Department aside ... The tenth amendment was 'de-toothed' by Chief USURPING Justice Marshall with McCulloch versus Maryland -- this complements his declaration that the Court says what the Law is in Marbury v. Madison, 1803.

Re: [CTRL] Congress' voting record

1999-08-14 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer wrote: The New American magazine just came out with the voting records of U.S. Congressmen for the first half of 1999. They looked at 20 of the most important bills in each house, then found out how often the person voted constitutionally. Here are some resu

Re: [CTRL] GATE$: MY DOUGH WILL GO BEFORE I LOG OFF

1999-08-03 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- T Nohava wrote: http://www.nypost.com/news/1315.htm GATE$: MY DOUGH WILL GO BEFORE I LOG OFF By KIRSTEN DANIS Company Press Release SOURCE: Gates Learning Foundation; William H. Gates Foundation Bill and Melinda Gates Foundations Issue Statement on Returning Their

Re: [CTRL] The Federal Reserve Bank is a Private Company

1999-07-31 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- The Myth of the 'Independent' Fed by Thomas J. DiLorenzo Ever since its founding in 1913, the Fed has described itself as an 'independent' agency operated by selfless public servants striving to 'fine-tune' the economy through monetary policy. In reality, however, a nonpolitic

Re: [CTRL] OT: People Asking Questions (fwd)

1999-07-20 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: From another list I'm on: Question: I am not a pilot, or an airplane mechanic, so I ask this from a position of ignorance and seek responses from those more expert. I was reading the accounts of the plane accident, and from what I

Re: [CTRL] THE HISTORY OF THE STANDARD OIL COMPANY

1999-07-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: Read what was written and what you posted. 90% control does not mean output. Dogmatic blindness? MJ: Standard Oil's market percentage PEAKED at 88%. Reaching such a level is NOT a monopoly NOR does it imply/infer/mean such a level was sustained

Re: [CTRL] THE HISTORY OF THE STANDARD OIL COMPANY

1999-07-17 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Well my computer has been 'ill' ... This is total and absolute nonsense: Das GOAT wrote: 1901 "The Spindletop [oil] gusher in Beaumont, Texas, gives John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Trust its first major competition. The Beaumont Field contains more oil

[CTRL] Corruption of language

1999-06-27 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes~~ Corruption of language by Walter E. Williams MANY OF MY YOUTHFUL Saturday afternoons were spent at the theater watching Tarzan or Jungle Jim fighting in the swamps and jungles against the forces of evil. There were swamps and jungles because we sa

Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.

1999-06-10 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Much of the R and D in high tech industries is funded by the taxpayers... We have NASA, NSA, Livermore, MIT, the mammoth defense contractors.. Silicon Valley has had its share of government subsidies.. MJ: Then it is

Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.

1999-06-10 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- SCIO-LTD wrote: The subsidies are often indirect through the granting of minor or major monopolies, (for a good example see the history of AT&T, and the monopoly they had for well over a half a century).The government often has a dual use/dual purpose

[CTRL] Class -- whatever that may entail was ...

1999-06-10 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: ... have had articles featuring what I believe is a growing class division in America. MJ: Do NOT 99% of Americans consider themselves 'middle class'? Is it class division or culture? It it a PERCEPTION manipulation? Are you considering

Re: [CTRL] Income, taxes and demagoguery

1999-06-09 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Nice try, Mr. Johnson, but you're in error. Bartlett and Steele use figures from the OMB, the IRS and the US Census Bureau... not the House Ways and Means Committee and NOT the Tax Foundation! MJ: So Bartlett & Steele (fallacy of

Re: [CTRL] COST OF PROTECTIONISM

1999-06-09 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: The free trade vs. protectionism debate is something of a joke. MJ: Yes, especially when ONLY the latter exists in the reality of today. Regard$, --MJ Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. --

Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.

1999-06-09 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- SCIO-LTD wrote: The subsidies are often indirect through the granting of minor or major monopolies, (for a good example see the history of AT&T, and the monopoly they had for well over a half a century).The government often has a dual use/dual purpose agen

Re: [CTRL] Income, taxes and demagoguery

1999-06-09 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Income, taxes and demagoguery by Thomas Sowell William Hugh Tunstall Mr. Sowell is engaged in a rather clever campaign of disinformation. information about some book Sorry. The facts do not support Sowell's position. MJ: The 'facts' in the book you cited?

Re: [CTRL] Shootings a boon to home education [a bard bonus]

1999-06-08 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Howard R. Davis III wrote: Life Magazine made a list of the individuals who had the most effect upon our civilization during the last millenium. At the top of the list was Thomas Alva Edison. When his teacher told his mother that he would never amount to anything

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-07 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Why do you feel the need to play these little, crappy rhetorical games? MJ: I am 'playing' no games. Let us take the most basic example of late: libertarian (lîb´er-târ´ê-en) noun 1. One who believes in freedom of action and thought.

Re: [CTRL] Revising Capitalism/ rebuttal.

1999-06-07 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Nurev: No matter what changes and inovations Capitalism goes through, there always remains the deadly constants. 1- Private ownership of large amounts of capital ALWAYS causes concentration of wealth into few hands. With that ALWAYS comes control and expl

[CTRL] Income, taxes and demagoguery

1999-06-07 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Income, taxes and demagoguery by Thomas Sowell WHEN YOU HEAR POLITICIANS and intellectuals talking -- often very loudly -- about "the rich," do you ever wonder who they are talking about and how much money those "rich" people make? And do you ever wonder why those who are making

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-06 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: A man or woman's character is meaningless in America. It is the possession of wealth that matters. Of course, you or I might judge individuals differently; but for the most part, Americans judge and evaluate one another on the ba

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-06 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Adam Smith recognized that there were some services which the "free market" cannot provide for citizens. MJ: What has Adam Smith to do with anything? William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Please clarify your position. Are you against All taxes?

Re: [CTRL] SA-social conditions

1999-06-06 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- A totalitarian state thrives on propaganda, and there is no more effective way to limit thought than to control the language itself. By changing definitions of words through continual association, any serious discussion involving the concepts that the words represents becomes ho

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-06 Thread M.A. Johnson
MJ: Actually, pointing at reality. If YOU will read my statement below, you will plainly see that the subject of my comment was NOT you (unless of course you are trying on shoes for fit). (snipped for brevity) On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, M.A. Johnson wrote: I have never claimed nor am I a Libertarian.

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Whenever this government tries to help people, it does a miserable job. Why? Because in case you haven't noticed, for the most part, Americans, in general, hate the poor and the working class. BULLSHIT. Regard$, --MJ A man receiving c

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: I feel sorry for you, MJ, if you equate humanitarian care for the elderly and the indigent with "stealing." MJ: I said no such thing. You confuse words with concepts AND you also confuse CHARITY with government theft. William Hugh Tuns

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: I find libertarianism to be not only a flawed approach to political and social issues...but also a dangerous one. extension of logical fallacy MJ: I have never claimed nor am I a Libertarian. I see your use of ad hominem and the straw man run

Re: [CTRL] More on Racial Profiling

1999-06-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: I find it interesting that Williams does NOT ask WHY D.C. is filled with "black thugs." The blame-game is a tricky affair. First off, we have to ask ourselves exactly why it is that we live in a country in which crime is an

Re: [CTRL] Lloyd: How Christianity Harms the Race

1999-06-04 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Edward Britton wrote: There is a saying that both creme and scum rise to the top, and in that regard, surely this essay is a fine example of the latter. MJ: No problem here -- certainly a legitimate opinion/review. Edward Britton wrote: I want to persona

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-04 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: There's always a certain percentage of the population that is unable to work for a variety of physical/psychological reasons...disabilities, mental health problems, etc. MJ: Does this provide them with a 'special right' to steal fro

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-04 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- nessie wrote: Not all of the "rest of the working class" CAN pay for their own health care, at least not if they want to also eat food, wear clothes and live indoors. Keep their cell phones, two cars, beepers, credit cards ... MJ: Pfewww Government

Re: [CTRL] More on Racial Profiling

1999-06-04 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: "Thousands of local police nationwide were trained in the use of 'racial profiling' by the DEA, as part of its 'Operation Pipeline,' a federally funded anti-drug program." Racial profiling by Walter Williams NEW JERSEY GOV. CHRISTINE TODD WHITMAN fir

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-01 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- nessie wrote: Affluent people of all nations get better health care than the rest of us. This is an atrocity. Health care is a human right. MJ: How so? For this to be true ... others MUST be slaves, victims of theft and out and out raped so that 'everyone' has healt

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-06-01 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: For this to be true ... others MUST be slaves, victims of theft and out and out raped so that 'everyone' has healthcare -- whatever that may entail. nessie wrote: How so? MJ: How will doctors, nurses, et al AND supplies be 'paid for'? Will these people be FORC

Re: [CTRL] "Why GUNS are here to stay.

1999-05-31 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Eagle 1 wrote: What is it with guns? Guns don't kill anyone. nurev wrote: You are a liar! MJ: If you and I sat in a room (or you sat alone) with a gun on the table ... at what point does the gun shoot you or I? Regard$, --MJ I am convinced that we can do to guns wh

Re: [CTRL] Dutch Gov't Faces "Threat of Democracy"

1999-05-31 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public T

Re: [CTRL] Dutch Gov't Faces "Threat of Democracy"

1999-05-31 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: That's not the point. These people don't like any kind of democracy because they are essentially elitist and resent being restricted by society. MJ: Straw man, non sequitur, ad hominem ... Some people favor freedom, liberty and equality

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-05-31 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Bejamin Rush (at the time of ourFounding): the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others: Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: I think this time has already

Re: [CTRL] Say "NO" To Socialized Health Care Today!

1999-05-29 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you want long lines like what they experience in Canada, under a socialized health care system? Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: Yes, yes, yes. Canada's system sounds great to me. They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health car

Re: [CTRL] Dutch Gov't Faces "Threat of Democracy"

1999-05-21 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: That's not the point. These people don't like any kind of democracy because they are essentially elitist and resent being restricted by society. MJ: Straw man, non sequitur, ad hominem ... Some people favor freedom, liberty and equality over the whims of t

Re: [CTRL] Dutch Gov't Faces "Threat of Democracy"

1999-05-20 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: "A senior member of the Liberal party objected strenuously that this measure, if passed, would give Dutch citizens too much power over their government." Entire Dutch Cabinet Resigns By ANTHONY DEUTSCH .c The Associated Press THE HAGUE

Re: [CTRL] CLGA> Re: [patriots] Fw: [SonsofLiberty] A LaymansStudy and Interpretation of the CONSTITUTION

1999-05-19 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter wrote: If you believe that "state sovereignty" is a Constitutional issue, or that the Articles of Confederation deserve standing as "the supreme Law of the Land", please cite such sections of the Constitution that I may have missed. Thank you. If it 'ai

Re: [CTRL] [wethepeople] The Bible and our Constitution

1999-05-16 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Mike & Kathy Moxley wrote: "Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our i

Re: [CTRL] [wethepeople] Was George Washington a Christian?

1999-05-16 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Mike & Kathy Moxley wrote: Was George Washington a Christian? MJ: In a word, No. from Franklin Steiner's The Religious Beliefs of Our President's 19 Every public man, every office holder and politician realizes that organized religion, socially, politically and ec

Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.

1999-05-16 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: Wealth is CREATED, not distributed. nurev wrote: I'm talking about on EARTH, Mr. Johnson. MJ: I am merely POINTING at REALITY. Regard$, --MJ It is an affront to truth to treat falsehood with complaisance. -- Thomas Paine DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL i

Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.

1999-05-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: Wealth is CREATED, not distributed. Das GOAT wrote: Even ENERGY can be neither created nor destroyed, just redistributed. 'Twould seem even God has less "power" than an ideological Capitalist. MJ: False analogy. Wealth is NOT energy. Regard$, --MJ Few skills

Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.

1999-05-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: Wealth is CREATED, not distributed. Das GOAT wrote: Even ENERGY can be neither created nor destroyed, just redistributed. 'Twould seem even God has less "power" than an ideological Capitalist. MJ: False analogy. Wealth is NOT energy. Regard$, --MJ Few skills

Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.

1999-05-15 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Wealth is CREATED, not distributed. Regard$, --MJ It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry. -- Thomas Paine DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—

Re: [CTRL] Michael: Flaw in Capitalist system]

1999-05-07 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: No one is FORCED to purchase *anything* (except Government). So long as this same entity does not prevent entry into the marketplace, *anyone* may 'offer' alternatives. nurev wrote: That's right. No one is forced to buy food, or shelter, or transportation, or edu

Re: [CTRL] Michael: Flaw in Capitalist system]

1999-05-07 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- von Mises: Laissez faire does not mean: Let soulless mechanical forces operate. It means: Let each individual choose how he wants to cooperate in the social division of labor; let the consumers determine what the entrepreneurs should produce. nurev wrote: This is

[CTRL] THE CRADLE OF CRIME

1999-05-06 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- THE CRADLE OF CRIME What is crime and what are its causes? by Fulton Huxtable Unless you can answer these two questions, you will never be able begin to take the steps necessary to reverse the surge in crime we have witnessed in the past 50 years. The rise in crime has been a bu

Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]

1999-05-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has any right to but himself. The labor of his body and the work of his hands are properly his. -- John Locke, 1690 Das GOAT wrote: I'm waiting for someone to claim that the "property" owned by Capitali

Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]

1999-05-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- nurev wrote: Ah, here is the crux of the problem. This person, and and capitalists in general would like everyone to take on their belief system. Individualism, individual rights, and the ever so lovely PROPERTY IS PRIOR TO LAW. These twisted apostles of greed

Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]

1999-05-05 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter wrote: T'ain't so. Capitalism is about acquiring and manipulating CAPITAL, about owning and controlling the means of production of material goods. Capitalism is thus about POWER. In any non-trivial society, many conflicting interests will co

Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system]

1999-05-03 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter wrote: Meanwhile, all the previous writers in this thread seem to assume Capitalism is about fee-for-service, then argue whether a State has a role in resolving disputes between contractor and contractee. MJ: Non sequitur, strawman ... proving this per

Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system

1999-05-03 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ: I contract with you ... I pay you $20, you paint my front porch. THIS is capitalism. Where is the state you were requiring? Das GOAT wrote: First off, it's NOT capitalism. It's simply an economic exchange -- "barter," mediated by money, i.e., a transferable

Re: [CTRL] Flaw in Capitalist system

1999-05-01 Thread M.A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Jeff Russo wrote: I contract with you... I pay you $20. You do NOT paint my porch. I now have two options: 1) hunt you down and get my money back or kill you. 2) Use some sort of legal recourse, provided by the state, to solve this dispute. MJ: A. I d

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