Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-11 Thread Kelly
Tara wrote: > Clinton's a wimp, who won't do anything to help this kid, but then the > Canadian government is no better. Except Prime Minister Chretien prefers > golfing and travel to sexual promiscuity. You're Canadian? Then you should know that Canada has relations with Cuba, trades with Cub

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-11 Thread uaicvtmb
Nessie: Perhaps you forgot what NAZI stood for? It was German for the "National Socialist Party" i.e. Another Type of Socialism Just as bad if not worse as the U.S.S.R. under Joe Stalin. Mike U.A.I.C.-VT. * http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread uaicvtmb
Oh. Is That A Fact Really? June "Fonda". Oh, Lacky of Marxist Propaganda? International Law in Reference to Picking Up someone from a Sinking Refugee Vessal - by Our Coast Guard within our Shore - Doesn't Apply. Especially when the Parent Who Fled a Communist County Was the Legal Guardian. BTW O

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >was not unhappy and was not political. Her mother has been quoted as > >saying she suspects the new husband was behind the decision to >leave Cuba, and she believes her daughter was pressure

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread Bob Stokes
In a message dated 00-04-10 08:25:43 EDT, June writes: << No, I'm saying NO mob, no matter what their political leanings, have the right to ram their political ideology down the throats of others. And just whom is my 'ilk', Bob? ;-)>> Unfortunately many "mobs" have rammed their political ide

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread Bob Stokes
<< [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I've never heard of >anyone who died trying to get out of a non-communist country.>> nessie writes: <> Thanks for seeing the obvious. The nazi's were, and still are a threat, probably a bigger threat than most realize. The worst part about the naz

[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread Amelia
- Original Message - From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect > [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > > >I've never heard of

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I've never heard of >anyone who died trying to get out of a non-communist country. Have you forgotten Nazi Germany? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing prop

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > << Yes, we do live in a Republic, where a mob like the Cubans encamped > outside the home where Elian Gonzalez is staying have no right > to ram their ideology down the throats of others...>> > > Then you are saying that it is OK for those of your ilk to r

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-09 Thread Bob Stokes
In a message dated 00-04-09 12:16:17 EDT, June writes: << Yes, we do live in a Republic, where a mob like the Cubans encamped outside the home where Elian Gonzalez is staying have no right to ram their ideology down the throats of others...>> Then you are saying that it is OK for those of your

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research
"Theodor Parada, MD" wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > Joshua2 wrote: > > They now live in a democratic country where the majority AND the laws > > are against them. > > > Joshua2 > > Thank the lord that we live in a Republic which guarantees minority > rights

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Bob Stokes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Error ... WE live in a Republic. How can you prove the majoroty and the > laws are against them? Yes, we do live in a Republic, where a mob like the Cubans encamped outside the home where Elian Gonzalez is staying have no right to ram their ideology dow

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's not that "we" don't want him, it's that his dad DOES want him... > And I watch with disgust the mob scene in Miami, a Faubus/Wallace wannabe > mayor, and a ton of Miami Cubans with no regard for this country's laws... > Could you imagine being the

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Theodor Parada, MD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Joshua2 wrote: >> They now live in a democratic country where the majority AND the laws >> are against them. > > Thank the lord that we live in a Republic which guarantees minority > rights and not democratic mob rule. So who is the 'democratic mob

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >But I also cannot agree that this ionly about his dad. It's not only about this family and it's not only about Cuba. There are, according to ABC news, over two hundred American children currently involved in similar custudy disputes in foriegn countries. If

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread Bob Stokes
In a message dated 00-04-08 20:04:52 EDT, you write: << Joshua 2 wrote: I think we should send the Miami Cubans back where they came from. I'm sick of them and their fascist bullshit.>> This doesn't sound very liberal. <> Democracy = Communism <> Error ... WE live in a Republic. How ca

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread Tara
ROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Shannon Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 8:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect In a message dated 4/8/00 7:04:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << No. This is about a little boy, whose

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 4/8/00 7:04:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << No. This is about a little boy, whose mother and stepdad died to bring him to the States and save him from a life in Cuba >> And a now motherless child with a living dad, a dad who wants his son with him. T

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread Tara
No. This is about a little boy, whose mother and stepdad died to bring him to the States and save him from a life in Cuba. If you guys don't want him, I'd support him coming to Canada. I actually watch with disgust the attempts to send this poor child back there, by a supposedly left of center Ame

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread Theodor Parada, MD
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Joshua2 wrote: > They now live in a democratic country where the majority AND the laws > are against them. > Joshua2 Thank the lord that we live in a Republic which guarantees minority rights and not democratic mob rule. http://www.ctrl.org

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 4/8/00 9:35:12 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << On that note I'd like to know who's paying that lawyer Craig!!! >> The Methodist Church/National Council of Churches... http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread Nurev Ind Research
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- William Shannon wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > In a message dated 4/7/00 7:31:05 AM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Interesting, that if this case involved U.S. citizens, you'd

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- From: "Theodor Parada, MD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Makes me wonder who's footing the bill for the expensive signs, and enabling an >able-bodied young man to >> do nothing else but loiter on public property (a crime in most municipalities, but

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread Theodor Parada, MD
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- June wrote: > Makes me wonder who's footing the bill for the expensive signs, and enabling an >able-bodied young man to do nothing else but loiter > on public property (a crime in most municipalities, but seemingly not in Miami) >during the

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-08 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > << Interesting, that if this case involved U.S. citizens, you'd be crying > long and loud for the father's rights. >> > > Good call June! > This is all about personal animosity towards Castro...the

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-07 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 4/7/00 7:31:05 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Interesting, that if this case involved U.S. citizens, you'd be crying long and loud for the father's rights. >> Good call June! This is all about perso

Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-07 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- From: "Steve Wingate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Maybe some of the protesters could encourage his father to defect along > with his family to the US. (Naturally the 'Justice Department' will not > recognize this. If it will help I will risk my life

[CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect

2000-04-07 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Maybe some of the protesters could encourage his father to defect along with his family to the US. (Naturally the 'Justice Department' will not recognize this. If it will help I will risk my life to keep Janet (Waco Justice) Reno from carrying