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how do you deal with households that are not exactly
civilian in this situation? A hypothetical extremist who plants a car
bomb,
or has a bomb factory to send kids out to blow up civilians - who is not
in
any officially recognized army, and lives with his family in the same
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on 9/23/02 2:34 PM, flw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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how do you deal with households that are not exactly
civilian in this situation? A hypothetical extremist who plants a car
bomb,
or has a bomb factory to send kids out to blow up civilians - who is not
in
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Look - personally - I consider myself American ( actually a new Yorker,
which isn't the same - post 9/11 propaganda notwithstanding) and that is
enough for me.
Not Italian Jews in one place American Jews in another, but a place where
people of Jewish ethnicity have self
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You are playing the bait and switch again.
The Saudi's are essentially hiring young Palestinians as murderers.
They are making the killing of innocents a lucrative career path.
High pay for short 'career' isn't it? Not one a person who is not
frustrated to a point of insanity
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on 9/22/02 11:58 AM, flw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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You are playing the bait and switch again.
The Saudi's are essentially hiring young Palestinians as murderers.
They are making the killing of innocents a lucrative career path.
High pay for short
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In a message dated 9/22/02 11:12:35 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let me ask you - seriously - where can the Jews have a homeland? Do their
nationalist desires not deserve the same consideration as the Palestinians?
They should've taken Madagascar when they
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Then you would be griping about the evil Jews and their domination in Africa.
on 9/22/02 12:14 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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In a message dated 9/22/02 11:18:47 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Then you would be griping about the evil Jews and their domination in Africa.
Probably...ya' got me there!
Does anyone watch football anymore??
I've got to go watch my investments...wish I
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Even if everything you say is true it does not make it Ok for the Saudi's
to
pay for the killing of innocent children in school buses, for the killing
of
innocent teenagers at a youth night in a disco, for innocent shoppers in
a
mall, commuters on a bus, or diners in a
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on 9/22/02 10:51 PM, flw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it is wrong for Saudis to donate to families of human bombs, then
it is certainly wrong for Americans to provide Israel with jets and
bombs to be used to bomb civilians in Palestine.
Bombing civilians is wrong. No
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Oops. False reference. Deftly done though.
The compensation the Saudis give has nothing to do with blowing up homes.
They do not give it to homeless families - they give it to families who
have
a martyr for a son. As if the Koran didn't make the difference between
martyrdom
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You are playing the bait and switch again.
The Saudi's are essentially hiring young Palestinians as murderers. They are
making the killing of innocents a lucrative career path. The fact that
Israel is involved in evil shit on it's own, and it is, does not change the
inherent
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But the money isn¹t going to victims. It is going specifically to the
families of people who kill innocent civilians, for no other reason than
they killed themselves while murdering others.
Why is it wrong to pay compensation for innocent family members?
Especially since it has
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on 9/20/02 1:49 PM, flw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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But the money isn¹t going to victims. It is going specifically to the
families of people who kill innocent civilians, for no other reason than
they killed themselves while murdering others.
Why is it
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Compensation for what? For having a murderer for a son?
Paying families is an incentive to blow yourself up while killing
innocents.
It's not moral, and it goes against the Koran.
Especially since it has long been the Israeli illegal policy of
'collective
punishment'
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Oops. False reference. Deftly done though.
The compensation the Saudis give has nothing to do with blowing up homes.
They do not give it to homeless families - they give it to families who have
a martyr for a son. As if the Koran didn't make the difference between
martyrdom and
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on 9/19/02 3:43 PM, Mermaid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Half of me says oh good someone is helping these people and half of me says it is not a good idea to give money to the families of the suicide bombers because
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On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, thew wrote:
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on 9/19/02 3:43 PM, Mermaid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Half of me says oh good someone is helping these people and half of me says it
is not a good idea to give money to the families of the suicide
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Communities live and die by the morality they encourage amongst themselves and
toward others. Palestinian terrorists have a very large support system in their
families, in the community and beyond. If this support system feels the ends justify
the means, then they know they
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I was talking about the universities
...dummy the help the students are getting for their educationThat of
course if the Israelis dont go and reduce them into a pile of rubble like they
have everything else...I mean god forbid
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I'm not sure why you think I approve of that sort of behavior.
I think it is barbaric.
But in no way does it excuse paying families of murderers to encourage more
murder. Bringing up expulsions is a smokescreen, enabling you to ignore the
question I asked.
I don't know what
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Actually Palestinian universities get lots of money from Israel. But why let facts get in the way of a good point, eh?
I will try not to stoop the personal level you feel is called for here, to try to stay with the facts. The perpetrators
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In a message dated 9/19/02 7:14:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The perpetrators here are on both sides.
IF you believe that why do you insist on defending Sharon and his ilk and demonizing the Palestinians? You're about as "fair and balanced" as Fox
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Scroll back. Read my old posts.
I have never defended Sharon. I think the phrase I have used for him most often is dangerous hateful pig, but I can check if you really need a count. Because I think Israel has a right to exist, you somehow
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In a message dated 9/19/02 8:49:35 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I refuse to say that strapping explosives to oneself and blowing up kids on a school bus or in a disco is the same as soldiers shooting at armed men who are shooting at them
What about
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But the money isnt going to victims. It is going specifically to the families of people who kill innocent civilians, for no other reason than they killed themselves while murdering others.
Thats not what victim means to me. If the Saudis
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