Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: ... > Of course, if you want to admit that MacOS and Win32 can do something > better than Unix can -- which is the obvious implication of a lot of > what you've said on this subject --, be my guest. ? how could that be? what's the difference (ms<->mac<->unix)? the only diffe

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Eric G. Miller wrote: > Yea, but don't you need a switch to change drives? > > c:\> cd d:\cygwin > c:\> Does not compute... > c:\> d: > d:\> cd cygwin > d:\cygwin> > > Okay, that isn't the real error message... That whole drive letter > thing is way dainbramaged... The drive letter thing is in

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Christoph Simon wrote: > Someone already stated that the space is a token separator (in many > computer related contexts, not just limited to unix like OSs, but > including MS-Windows). Also, if you find your for-loop > counter-intuitive, you are demonstrating to use variables without > bearing in

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Michael D. Schleif wrote: > Craig Dickson wrote: > > > Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > > > > How would you like to handle 0x08, 0x0a or 0x0d ??? Remember, we are > > > talking about text handling here, not binaries . . . > > > > We can sensibly limit ourselves to printable characters for filename

Re: Unidentified subject!

2001-12-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:44:44 Kent West wrote: > On Wednesday 19 December 2001 04:43 pm, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I have a Debian Potato. I would like to use Balsa 1.2.3, which is > > available as > > part of Debian Woody. I have read in many places that an upgrade > > from potato to > > woody is ea

Re: emu10k1

2001-12-19 Thread Matt
Mike, If you're not currently using kernel-source and don't really have a need for it (the binary kernel satisfies your needs) then don't bother installing it. This way, you don't need to use alsa-source. You can just you kernel-2.4.16 (or whatever) and the matching alsa-modules-2.4.16 (matching

Re: Fish swimming over my Desktop and ... system locked ?!?

2001-12-19 Thread dman
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:31:44PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: | On Wednesday 19 December 2001 15:39, dman wrote: | > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:21:01PM +0100, Martin Emrich wrote: | > | Hi All ! | > | | > | Today, something _really_ weird happened on my computer: | > | | > | I was writing some tex f

Re: Exim.conf help

2001-12-19 Thread Paul Mackinney
dman muttered: > | ... > | my only routing agent that isn't local sends everything to my ISP, but I > | don't seem to be able to set up a second agent that tests for hostname > | 'foo2' > | > | Anyone doing this that could send me a sample exim.conf file/section? > Yes, that is what you want to

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Paul Mackinney
White male, 43, wife, daughter, Berkeley, by-his-bootstraps SQA for 10-years, seeking refuge & promise of a more interesting career in the ICS masters program at Mills College, progressive politics, Christian pacifist (Quaker). Enjoy listening to KPFA, going to hear folk music at Freight & Salva

emu10k1

2001-12-19 Thread Mike Atamas
Im trying to install emu10k1 drivers. However, I'm having a problem with the kernel source. I used apt-get to get the source and I followed all the instructions with emu10k but when i run make clean it tells me that it can not find version.h. The thing is I can't find it either... Any suggestions o

Nautilus in Woody Questions

2001-12-19 Thread Glen Snyder
I installed Nautilus from testing, and let it redraw the desktop. I'm using sawfish with gnome. Nautilus drew some nice icons with sym-links. Anyway, it threw the icons underneath the Sawfish icons, so it looks lousy. I tried deleting the old icons, but they reappear when I login. I can't seem

The Debian personality wrap-up [was: What's a debian kid look like?]

2001-12-19 Thread Matt
Craig is right -- let's not let this get political nor personal. I appreciated your many responses and I hope some, if not all of you, did as well. This list suddenly has a living face for me.. from 16-year-old academic boredom to retired philosophy profs. Thanks to everyone who replied. ..look

debian: bugzilla questions

2001-12-19 Thread Brendan J Simon
I've just installed bugzilla on a machine running "testing" and a few bits from "unstable". I have few questions. 1) This is being used in a closed group and closely administered, so I do not want any user to add their own account. ie. I want all account to setup by the administrator. I

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Eric G . Miller
On 19 Dec 2001 22:23:26 -0500, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > cd c:\Program Files > > Pure Linux users always forget to learn basic windows know-how before > trashing it -- cd "c:\Program Files" would work just fine. cd > "/mswin/Program Files" would work just fine as well, no? I was fee

fixing libc5-based compiler

2001-12-19 Thread Steven Butterworth
Hi All, I am attempting to get an old (circa 1996) Absoft F77/F90 compiler running under Debian Woody/Sid. I have installed the libc5, xlib6 and alt-gcc packages. The Absoft f77 compiler runs, as does the Motif front-end to the debugger; so I think the run-time aspect of things is working fine. M

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Matt
Mr Iehrenwald, Your rant isn't what this thread is about. We're talking about Debian users, like myself and presumably you. Not whether those white males among them should be responsible for anything, or whether "Ted Kennedy" deserves me. :) Man... drop those lines on alt.welovedubya instead, ple

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Dickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Oh, OK. Boy was I wrong! [etc.] I think the last thing we need on debian-user is a political flamewar. It probably would have been tactful for Tom not to go into such detail about his political views, but at least he was civil about it, which can't be said for your re

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread jeff
32...volitaile personality...sensitive one minute, outrageous and warlike the next. the four food groups are cheese, chocolate, beer, and coffee. x-men, rugby, hockey, mr. bungle, frankie bones, guitar, Half-Life (no doubt), Godflesh, gina gershon... intergalactic mercenary, iron chef, enjoys

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread iehrenwald
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Thomas Hallaran wrote: > I am a white 22 year old very very far to the left debian user and though > I am not personally responsible,people of my race ARE responsible for much > of the world's woes. White males like : John Zerzan, Wendell Berry, Howard > Zinn, and myself told

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Matt
> cd c:\Program Files Pure Linux users always forget to learn basic windows know-how before trashing it -- cd "c:\Program Files" would work just fine. cd "/mswin/Program Files" would work just fine as well, no? I was feeling ghetto today so I typed cd /mswin/Program\ Files and got around jus

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Dan Owens
52 year old white male. A couple of years of college; mispent youth in the wilds of Alaska; electrician for many years; reader; birdwatcher; outdoorsman. I was a latecomer to computers, but have worked off and on doing tech support. I am running a straight sid machine. I really enjoy playin

Re: Unidentified subject!

2001-12-19 Thread Kent West
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 09:11 pm, Brian Clark wrote: > * Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 19. 2001 22:06]: > > > apt-get dist-upgrade > > > > > > is not enough. What am I missing? > > [...] > > > You need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to unstable > > You mean `testing'

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Matt
> If Unix were just being developed today, without thirty years of history > and backward-compatibility to worry about, I'd submit a bug report for > things like this. I understand why it works the way it does; I just > think it was a mistake. While it doesn't concern whitespace at all, really

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Eric Brooks
Male, 45 years old, mixed heritage (African American, Jewish, Native American, Chinese). Been programming 20+ years, mostly C/C++ on Windows. Recently (1 year ago) focused on Linux and now doing Linux development for work as well (consulting). Married, 3 kids, living in Indiana though a native o

Re: Unidentified subject!

2001-12-19 Thread Brian Clark
* Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 19. 2001 22:06]: > > apt-get dist-upgrade > > is not enough. What am I missing? [...] > You need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to unstable You mean `testing' for woody, right? > instead of stable (except the security line), then >

Bad IP connecting??

2001-12-19 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Hi, Can someone tell me why "apt-get install x" is now failing with: Get:1 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org stable/main autoconf 2.13-20 [347kB] Err ftp://ftp.us.debian.org stable/main autoconf 2.13-20 Unable to fetch file, server said 'Security: Bad IP connecting. ' Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.us.debi

Re: Unidentified subject!

2001-12-19 Thread Kent West
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 04:43 pm, Paul E Condon wrote: > I have a Debian Potato. I would like to use Balsa 1.2.3, which is > available as > part of Debian Woody. I have read in many places that an upgrade > from potato to > woody is easy, but I must be missing something. > > apt-get dist-upgr

Re: [ale] HELP, please -> after 45min compile, mozilla0.96 halts on error :-(

2001-12-19 Thread Courtney Thomas
Greetings ! In pursuit of a stable browser on Debian2.4.6, I am trying to get mozilla-0.96 going, having been advised it is stable. Anyway, I finally got it to ./configure properly, at least without any error messages, after compiling/installing libIDL. I got a complaint about "zip" being unava

Re: How to use cd-roms with dselect

2001-12-19 Thread Akintayo Holder
Abner Gershon wrote: During installation of potatoe from cd-roms my computer crashed due to problem with cd drive which is now fixed. The main system was installed but no other applications. Now I can boot into Linux but have been having problems installing applications. I have used "apt-cdrom

Potato to Woody

2001-12-19 Thread Akintayo Holder
Paul E Condon wrote: I have a Debian Potato. I would like to use Balsa 1.2.3, which is available as part of Debian Woody. I have read in many places that an upgrade from potato to woody is easy, but I must be missing something. apt-get dist-upgrade is not enough. What am I missing? Paul

Re: Install floppies for MegaRAID: advice needed

2001-12-19 Thread Shaul Karl
> I need to install Debian on a Dell poweredge server with MegaRAID. I > need install media with a kernel with builtin support or to make my own. > > How does one go about making install floppies with one's own kernel? > You might want to read the installation Instructions. Its 9.3 section is

Re: Fish swimming over my Desktop and ... system locked ?!?

2001-12-19 Thread Jesse Goerz
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 15:39, dman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:21:01PM +0100, Martin Emrich wrote: > | Hi All ! > | > | Today, something _really_ weird happened on my computer: > | > | I was writing some tex file in emacs, and suddenly, a little > | blue Fish swam over my Display (no

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Christoph Simon
On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:56:26 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > > How would you like to handle 0x08, 0x0a or 0x0d ??? Remember, we are > > talking about text handling here, not binaries . . . > > > We can sensibly limit ourselves to printable characte

Re: (Debian 2.2.3 : Installation init problem)

2001-12-19 Thread Shaul Karl
Not much I can say. Maybe you should try the floppies method? Have you read the installation guide? > --=-=-= > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > "Franck" =3D=3D FRANCK MODOLA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Franck> I don't understand what you need to know ! As I can't

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Thomas Hallaran
This debian kid: I am a 22 year old programmer working at the Washington University Genome Sequencing Center in St. Louis. I do my work in perl, c, and php. The GSC is almost exclusively a perl shop. The GSC has been a bastion of Sun Microsystems since it's inception but lots of linux/intel machin

Re: High Point 370 RAID + Debian

2001-12-19 Thread Friedrich Irmer
andy wrote: > I also have the HPT 370 RAID controller and would like to use it with > Debian. I would like to set up a stripped array of 2 30gig drives. I > built a 2.4.16 kernel with the CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID_HPT configured > in, and copied it to the install floppies. I then set up the RA

Re: something missing when upgrading potato to woody.

2001-12-19 Thread Shaul Karl
> I have a Debian Potato. I would like to use Balsa 1.2.3, which is > available as > part of Debian Woody. I have read in many places that an upgrade > from potato to > woody is easy, but I must be missing something. > > apt-get dist-upgrade > > is not enough. What am I missing? > Maybe yo

Re: kernel problem

2001-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 09:51:41AM +1100, Steve Kieu wrote: > philip baratta wrote: > > I have obtained the 2.4.3 kernel, added the indicated options under > > USB support. However, when I try to make zImage, the last few lines > > of the output are: > > net/network.o(.data+0x57c4): undefined refer

Re: Fish swimming over my Desktop and ... system locked ?!?

2001-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 03:41:46PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > * Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > > Nasty. I've never heard of the easter egg causing that. Most likely some > > other problem that just happened to crop up as the fish was swimming by. > > Simple explanations are

Re: Best way to mirror two drives

2001-12-19 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya lance mirroring and backup is not quite the same ... am gonna assume that you wanna backup your first 30Gb system... onto your new 2nd 30Gb disks - best way is to: ( varies from person to person ) - put the 2nd 30GB onto a different server to protect your data/disk agains

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Bob Underwood
Virginian, mostly retired, 54, liberal in all matters I consider important. User not developer, part-time freelance writer, Tuesday is bridge day! BS in psych; Masters in Philo. bob On Wednesday 19 December 2001 02:24, Matt wrote: > Forget support and distro discussion for a second.. > > Who

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Brian McGroarty
Single white male, 28, Chicago IL, high school graduate, programmer and project lead at Midway Games, LLC. Debian has been the OS of choice at home for a while now, and it's started to take its place at work as well. Asocial hermit, but prone to the occasional bout of Throwing It All Down And Havin

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Craig Dickson wrote: > > Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > > Wrong. There's a reason why people with half a clue don't put > > spaces in paths, and inadequacy of tools is not it. Unless your > > computer can read minds, it has no way of telling when the > > whitespace's supposed to be input separator, a

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Craig Dickson wrote: > > Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > > How would you like to handle 0x08, 0x0a or 0x0d ??? Remember, we are > > talking about text handling here, not binaries . . . > > We can sensibly limit ourselves to printable characters for filenames; > it's silly to suggest that if you

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: > > Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > > Wrong. There's a reason why people with half a clue don't put > > spaces in paths, and inadequacy of tools is not it. Unless your > > computer can read minds, it has no way of telling when the > > whitespace's supposed to be input separator, an

Re: /etc/hosts strange

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Joel Franco Guzmán wrote: > > Hi guys, > > plz, i have troubles with the hosts file. > it says: > > 127.0.0.1 thorlocalhost > > i think it is not correct, bcoz the "thor" name is not the > loopback: it's a real ip. i had troubles mounting nfs filesystem by tryi

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Thomas Hallaran
I am a white 22 year old very very far to the left debian user and though I am not personally responsible,people of my race ARE responsible for much of the world's woes. White males like : John Zerzan, Wendell Berry, Howard Zinn, and myself told ME so -- Tom, who is looking forward to a time when

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
Brazilian single male, 28, software developer (currently working with Java), but I am also one of the sysadmins at work. I'm also a PhD student (researching some weird topics in AI); I like music (a lot) -- classical in particular -- and reading, but I seldom do read sci-fi. Used to read comic

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > Wrong. There's a reason why people with half a clue don't put > spaces in paths, and inadequacy of tools is not it. Unless your > computer can read minds, it has no way of telling when the > whitespace's supposed to be input separator, and when it's just > a part of file

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > * Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > ... > > generally, filename should be allowed to be basically any text. I see > > no reason to limit it (well, the general consesnsus among most of the > > unix(-like) implementations is that you cannot include '\0' and

/etc/hosts strange

2001-12-19 Thread Joel Franco Guzmán
Hi guys, plz, i have troubles with the hosts file. it says: 127.0.0.1 thorlocalhost i think it is not correct, bcoz the "thor" name is not the loopback: it's a real ip. i had troubles mounting nfs filesystem by trying mount thor:/XXX/XX ./tmp in my own machine,

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
"Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > Erik Steffl wrote: > > > > "Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > > > > > More and more, *nix developers are following the dark path of using > > > whitespace in directory and filenames -- something which I've always > > > detested, from an sa standpoint ;< > > > > well,

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Michael D. Schleif wrote: > How would you like to handle 0x08, 0x0a or 0x0d ??? Remember, we are > talking about text handling here, not binaries . . . We can sensibly limit ourselves to printable characters for filenames; it's silly to suggest that if you let people use spaces, next they'll wan

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread iehrenwald
On 19 Dec 2001, Cameron Matheson wrote: > Yeah, I'm a white (I'm not a nazi tho) 17 year old that lives in Uh, what does one have to do with the other? Are you such a stupid and brainwashed mess that you feel the need to apologize for being White? What a sick person. "Oh, I'm White so I'm respo

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > * Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > ... > > generally, filename should be allowed to be basically any text. I see > > no reason to limit it (well, the general consesnsus among most of the > > unix(-like) implementations is that you cannot include '\0' and

Re: kernel problem

2001-12-19 Thread Steve Kieu
> I have obtained the 2.4.3 kernel, added the > indicated options > under USB support. However, when I try to make > zImage, the last > few lines of the output are: > > net/network.o(.data+0x57c4): undefined reference to > `sysctl_ipx_pprop_broadcasti > ng' > make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 > So if

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: ... > generally, filename should be allowed to be basically any text. I see > no reason to limit it (well, the general consesnsus among most of the > unix(-like) implementations is that you cannot include '\0' and '/'). > And I see no reason to put

Re: kernel problem

2001-12-19 Thread Steve Kieu
> > If you are running woody, downgrade the binutils > > package will solve this problem > > > > > I'm running potato. Does that mean I cannot do this? Nope, so it is not the problem with binutils, as in potato still uses the old version of binutils. Newer version of binutils having some problem

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Erik Steffl wrote: > > "Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > > > More and more, *nix developers are following the dark path of using > > whitespace in directory and filenames -- something which I've always > > detested, from an sa standpoint ;< > > well, it's a valid character, why shouldn't it be t

Re: kernel problem

2001-12-19 Thread nate
> I have been trying to set up a usb scanner under debian. To that > > net/network.o(.data+0x57c4): undefined reference to > `sysctl_ipx_pprop_broadcasti > ng' > make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 > while i haven't used 2.4.x yet the troubleshooting i'd use would be about the same. from the looks of the

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Michael Heldebrant
Demographic, Employment and Education: Single White male, 25, U.S., Almost done with my Biomedical Sciences Ph.D. I sell my body to science regularly for in house Medical studies most people fear to make ends meet. Been hacking since grade school. Leisure: Music taste runs from hardcore punk and

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey, Yeah, I'm a white (I'm not a nazi tho) 17 year old that lives in America. I like punk-rock and emo. I code in c++, java (kinda), ruby, etc. Haven't ever installed a distro other than Debian (been using Linux since 98). That's about it. Oh yeah, I'm definately leftist. Cameron Matheson

Re: kernel problem

2001-12-19 Thread philip baratta
philip baratta wrote: > > I have been trying to set up a usb scanner under debian. To that > end I have been following the Linux USB Scanner mini-howto. > > I have obtained the 2.4.3 kernel, added the indicated options > under USB support. However, when I try to make zImage, the last > few lines

Woody disk error

2001-12-19 Thread Howland, Curtis
Good morning. Please reply directly, I cannot subscribe to the list from work. I'm receiving an error that I would like some help with, if possible. To wit: # lilo Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 Added Linux-2.4.16 * This

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
"Michael D. Schleif" wrote: > > More and more, *nix developers are following the dark path of using > whitespace in directory and filenames -- something which I've always > detested, from an sa standpoint ;< well, it's a valid character, why shouldn't it be there? IMO the situation where users

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Mike Kuhar wrote: > > How about: > > find /etc -name pump\* -print > > The \* supplies the wild card pump to find. So any instance of pump and what > follows is listed. To find the instance of the file 'pump it' in /etc of any > of > it sub-directories. > > find /etc -name pump\* -print | g

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Paul Mackinney
White male, 43, wife, daughter, Berkeley, by-his-bootstraps SQA for 10-years, seeking refuge & promise of a more interesting career in the ICS masters program at Mills College, progressive politics, Christian pacifist (Quaker). Enjoy listening to KPFA, going to hear folk music at Freight & Salva

Re: kmail_2.2.2-4_i386.deb

2001-12-19 Thread csj
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 09:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 01:39:54PM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote: > I tried the testing version of kmail, unfortunately it was unable to > read properly my mailboxes. In other words, that version fails to > display message listings properl

Re: OT: mysql vs. postgresql

2001-12-19 Thread nate
> hi, > *PLEASE DON'T MAKE THIS INTO A FLAME WAR* > if you are taking anything personal, please don't reply... > > i have always used postgresql for everything. i don't really know > why, but i know that it's a pretty scalable, high-performance > database > server that is secure and powerful. i h

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Stephen Gran
30 male, Paramedic for the Philadelphia Fire Department. Just got my B.A. in History from Temple, looking for grad program in same in Europe (hopefully). Play guitar on and off in local, very small-time punk bands. Like my computer to not die, and behave the way I asked it to, politely. User, a

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Peter Good
*chuckle*, white male, 28, Queensland Australia, small time shell hoster, married, 2 kids, love waterskiing, high end (really high end) car audio, the odd game or 2 (UT has taken a special place in my heart, now that I can play it on the TV using the geforce's tv out). like a bit of sci-fi now a

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Lance Simmons
39-year old white male, Texan, professor, Ph.D. in Philosophy, user not developer, submit bug reports and sometimes suggest packages for adoption. Spend most time in textmode using mutt, vim, LaTeX, ogg123, nget, w3m, mplayer. In X, use ion, gkrellm, galeon, pan, LyX. Catholic, married with (so fa

Re: OT: mysql vs. postgresql

2001-12-19 Thread Pete Harlan
> This would be true if it was true, but it isn't. MySQL is really unsuited > to multiple readers, unless the reads are trivial select-one-row-by-id > jobs. Flame bait. MySQL has been great for us, with scads of multiple readers with complex queries. Your mileage may differ, hence try them both

Re: list traffic out of sync

2001-12-19 Thread Dragón
Yes I've noticed that last weekend. > I'm not even going to touch the mysql vs postgresql debate, but I just now > received Martin's original post after I had already gotten four or five > replies. Is anyone else getting mail traffic out of sequence? > > -- > Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: list traffic out of sync -- was OT: mysql vs. postgresql

2001-12-19 Thread Bud Rogers
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 12:18 pm, martin f krafft wrote: > hi, > *PLEASE DON'T MAKE THIS INTO A FLAME WAR* > if you are taking anything personal, please don't reply... I'm not even going to touch the mysql vs postgresql debate, but I just now received Martin's original post after I had alre

Re: OT: mysql vs. postgresql

2001-12-19 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:18:20PM +0100, martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > hi, > *PLEASE DON'T MAKE THIS INTO A FLAME WAR* > if you are taking anything personal, please don't reply... > > i have always used postgresql for everything. i don't really know why, > but i know that it's a p

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Jeff wrote: > > white male, 34, U.S. Californian, Data Network Engineering > professional, BS in Info Mgt, user not a developer, married with > child, ride offroad motorcycles on the weekend, play HalfLife/CS > on occassion, kinda social, Christian, read sci-fi books, watch > sci-fi video's, love

Rãspuns: [Fwd: Re: What's a debian kid look like?]

2001-12-19 Thread Petre Daniel
Romanian headbanger teenager,supposedly into r00ting activities,but in fact working legit for a local medium size isp for about 80 usd a month..,22 years old,owner of an acoustic guitar,small attempts to play "nothing else matters" sometimes,telephone bills of 75 percent of total income, insane bur

Re: kernel problem

2001-12-19 Thread Steve Kieu
> I have obtained the 2.4.3 kernel, added the > indicated options > under USB support. However, when I try to make > zImage, the last > few lines of the output are: If you are running woody, downgrade the binutils package will solve this problem > net/network.o(.data+0x57c4): undefined refere

Unidentified subject!

2001-12-19 Thread Paul E Condon
I have a Debian Potato. I would like to use Balsa 1.2.3, which is available as part of Debian Woody. I have read in many places that an upgrade from potato to woody is easy, but I must be missing something. apt-get dist-upgrade is not enough. What am I missing? Paul PS Am I crazy to comtemp

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Jeff
white male, 34, U.S. Californian, Data Network Engineering professional, BS in Info Mgt, user not a developer, married with child, ride offroad motorcycles on the weekend, play HalfLife/CS on occassion, kinda social, Christian, read sci-fi books, watch sci-fi video's, love having choices. jc --

kernel problem

2001-12-19 Thread philip baratta
I have been trying to set up a usb scanner under debian. To that end I have been following the Linux USB Scanner mini-howto. I have obtained the 2.4.3 kernel, added the indicated options under USB support. However, when I try to make zImage, the last few lines of the output are: net/network.o(.da

Re: Sterling pound symbol

2001-12-19 Thread Robin Cosby
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Colin Watson writes: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 08:50:28AM +, Robin Cosby wrote: > > As a newcomer to Debian (I've just installed Version 2.2r4), I'm having > > difficulty in getting the system to produce the Sterling pound symbol when > > [SHIFT] 3 is pressed. In

Re: Eterm Functionality

2001-12-19 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Theo Bierman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011219 00:58]: > Hi again > > Running 2.2r3. Having hassles with Eterm. Normally use Aterm. I see > each time Eterm opens up it has a different background pic to it. How > can I disable this, is their an extra string I need to put with it? Look in $ETERM_THEME_

Re: OT: mysql vs. postgresql

2001-12-19 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeffrey W. Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.19.1936 +0100]: > The differences are basically these: postgres has better concurrency, so > selects never block selects, updates block selects on a per-record basis. > In mysql, updates, inserts, and selects all block each other except in t

Re: nVidia: *better* TV out quality?

2001-12-19 Thread Timo --Blazko-- Boewing
On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 22:31, Steffen Evers wrote: > Can you hint to a document > or anything how I can use the TV out. What do I need to get the DRI > working? Hi Steffen, DRI: mh, isn't it on by default? I just had to set DGA (loadmodule) once for a TV card (ALDI, die Monokarte :-)) had to be ru

Re: Exim.conf help

2001-12-19 Thread Paul Mackinney
dman muttered: > | ... > | my only routing agent that isn't local sends everything to my ISP, but I > | don't seem to be able to set up a second agent that tests for hostname > | 'foo2' > | > | Anyone doing this that could send me a sample exim.conf file/section? > Yes, that is what you want to

Re: Fish swimming over my Desktop and ... system locked ?!?

2001-12-19 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: ... > Nasty. I've never heard of the easter egg causing that. Most likely some > other problem that just happened to crop up as the fish was swimming by. Simple explanations are usually correct (see .sig). If the system locked up right after that e

Re: Fish swimming over my Desktop and ... system locked ?!?

2001-12-19 Thread Martin Emrich
Craig Dickson wrote: Martin Emrich wrote: I was writing some tex file in emacs, and suddenly, a little blue Fish swam over my Display (no, I dont work underwater ;) It looked similar to the one in this Fish-Applet for GNOME Panel. Sounds like the GNOME panel's easter egg. Ok. Now tha

RE: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Mike Kuhar
How about: find /etc -name pump\* -print The \* supplies the wild card pump to find. So any instance of pump and what follows is listed. To find the instance of the file 'pump it' in /etc of any of it sub-directories. find /etc -name pump\* -print | grep 'pump it' Michael W. Kuhar * mailto:[

Re: nVidia: *better* TV out quality?

2001-12-19 Thread Steffen Evers
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 21:20, Timo --Blazko-- Boewing wrote: > Should have added that i use PAL (germany), i dunno the exact chip, > should be a Chrontel 7001 or 7002. I have a ELSA Gladiac 311 (NVidia GeForce2 MX DDR rev 178). I have no idea how I can use the TV out port. Can you hint to a docume

How to use cd-roms with dselect

2001-12-19 Thread Abner Gershon
During installation of potatoe from cd-roms my computer crashed due to problem with cd drive which is now fixed. The main system was installed but no other applications. Now I can boot into Linux but have been having problems installing applications. I have used "apt-cdrom add" to add three cd-rom

Re: High Point 370 RAID + Debian

2001-12-19 Thread Phoenix Dreamscape
Support for that card is standard in recent kernels. E.g. 2.4.17-rc1 has Highpoint 370 software RAID I doubt you'll actually need custom install disks. AFAIK, it should be possible to install Debian on the first disk using the regular boot floppies, then build a custom kernel to suppor

Outlook to Mozilla

2001-12-19 Thread Curtis Vaughan
I remember recently someone wonderning about converting their Outlook mail to Mozilla. In response someone else noted that Mozilla for Windows can import Outlook mail. SO! The obvious thing to do is to import Outlook mail into Mozilla. It works! Then, copy the folder and all of its content

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > I'd file a bug against kde 2 and debian menu package (I presume > that's the one responsible for .../hookdir/Debian/...) I would guess afterstep, rather than debian menu, considering the whole path. Craig

Re: SSH2 connect problem

2001-12-19 Thread Pollywog
On 2001.12.19 19:18 Lars Jensen wrote: I'm having a problem connecting to my server with ssh after I upgraded to woody. I can connect fine from another Debian machine, of which I have a couple. However when I try to connect to my woody box from other non-debian hosts either the connection just h

[Fwd: Re: What's a debian kid look like?]

2001-12-19 Thread Vladimir Kerka
Czech white male, 46. Technical university degree, member od Czech Unity of Mathematics and Physics, play guitar, read fantasy and sci-fi (for the curious: job - head of economical dpt. in hospital Matej -- Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka Klukovicka 1530 155 00 Praha 5 - Stodulky Czech Republic e-mail: [EM

Re: Fish swimming over my Desktop and ... system locked ?!?

2001-12-19 Thread Alan Shutko
Martin Emrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anybody know what this fish does ? I have no screensaver enabled, > and I was working all the time. Gnome easter egg. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! "I am Q...and you have absolutely no idea how screwed up this is."

Re: Fish swimming over my Desktop and ... system locked ?!?

2001-12-19 Thread dman
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:21:01PM +0100, Martin Emrich wrote: | Hi All ! | | Today, something _really_ weird happened on my computer: | | I was writing some tex file in emacs, and suddenly, a little blue Fish | swam over my Display (no, I dont work underwater ;) | It looked similar to the one i

Re: Fish swimming over my Desktop and ... system locked ?!?

2001-12-19 Thread Craig Dickson
Martin Emrich wrote: > I was writing some tex file in emacs, and suddenly, a little blue Fish > swam over my Display (no, I dont work underwater ;) > It looked similar to the one in this Fish-Applet for GNOME Panel. Sounds like the GNOME panel's easter egg. > After it stopped halfway between th

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