On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 2:18 AM Paul M Foster wrote:
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> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:43:14PM +1000, George at Clug wrote:
> [...]
> > If you had the money, I would get a cable installer to do a proper job of
> > running cables. I used to be an Electrician, hence I am familiar with
> > running wires
On 5/27/24 19:05, Paul M Foster wrote:
I did some more research, and it looks like I must have misstated the
problem.
Let's assume I can't get in the attic and wire the place. Let's
assume that I've got a wireless router/modem in, say, the garage.
Let's say I have three rooms with devices I wa
On 5/27/24 17:09, Paul M Foster wrote:
Folks:
At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My
idea is to put a device which r
Am 27.05.2024 um 17:09:02 Uhr schrieb Paul M Foster:
> At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not
> wired for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The
> local internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as
> they all do. My idea is to put a d
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:11:32PM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
>
> On 28/05/2024 10:05 am, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > It appears there are two solutions. One is wifi extenders, and one is a
> > mesh network. In both cases, the device sits in the room and communicates
> > via wifi to the modem/route
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 02:02:47PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> > # apt install -t=bookworm db-util db5.3-util libc-bin libc-dev-bin
> >>
> >> I can never remember exactly what `-t` really does, but I suspect you'll
> >> need things like
> >>
> >> apt install libc-bin/bookworm
> >
> > To
On 28/05/2024 10:05 am, Paul M Foster wrote:
It appears there are two solutions. One is wifi extenders, and one is a
mesh network. In both cases, the device sits in the room and communicates
via wifi to the modem/router. The devices in the room connect to the device
via ethernet cable.
How doe
On 28/05/2024 06:08, Stefan Monnier wrote:
I think it's called a "wireless bridge".
Any device with a wifi card and (at least) an ethernet port can do that.
Features like MAC VLAN may be unavailable with *any* device. Some
vendors offer it, but compatibility may be an issue in the case of
de
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:43:14PM +1000, George at Clug wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, 28-05-2024 at 12:05 Paul M Foster wrote:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 05:09:02PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> >
> > > Folks:
> > >
> > > At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
>
On 28/05/2024 01:02, Stefan Monnier wrote:
But that's not the whole story of what `-t` does since the above does
not explain why his attempt to use `-t` to downgrade some packages
resulted in `apt` saying " is already the newest version".
My guess is that -t increases priority of the specified
On Tuesday, 28-05-2024 at 12:05 Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 05:09:02PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
>
> > Folks:
> >
> > At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
> > for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
> > inte
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 05:09:02PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> Folks:
>
> At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
> for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
> internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. M
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:13 PM Paul M Foster wrote:
>
> At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
> for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?).
Your contract did not specify the house to be wired. You should have
called it out, if you wanted it.
>
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 17:47 Stefan Monnier
wrote:
> > Has anyone had experience using a KVM setup (at least one HDMI and two
> USB
> > ports) and using cat 5/6/7 between user and the computer? I don’t need
> to
> > handle multiple computers or high-def video movies, just programming and
> > of
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On Monday, May 27th, 2024 at 5:08 PM, Stefan Monnier
wrote:
> > I'd like to shop for such a device, but I don't know what it's called.
>
>
> I think it's called a "wireless bridge".
Yeah. A Raspberry Pi'll do that. Mine worked great. It was
On Mon 27 May 2024 at 21:46:24 (+0200), Detlef Vollmann wrote:
> On 5/27/24 20:02, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > > > # apt install -t=bookworm db-util db5.3-util libc-bin libc-dev-bin
> > > >
> > > > I can never remember exactly what `-t` really does, but I suspect you'll
> > > > need things like
>
On Mon 27 May 2024 at 22:23:01 (+0100), Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, 27 May 2024 17:09:02 -0400 > Paul M Foster wrote:
>
> >for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
>
> Cost
>
> Lack of understanding (in the building trade)
We didn't meet any lack of understanding. R
> I'd like to shop for such a device, but I don't know what it's called.
I think it's called a "wireless bridge".
Any device with a wifi card and (at least) an ethernet port can do that.
So "any" wifi router will do the trick, as long as you can get it to run
a firmware that's not hopelessly rest
On 5/27/24 14:09, Paul M Foster wrote:
Folks:
At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My
idea is to put a device which r
Paul M Foster wrote:
> At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
> for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
> internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My
> idea is to put a device which receives wireless si
> Has anyone had experience using a KVM setup (at least one HDMI and two USB
> ports) and using cat 5/6/7 between user and the computer? I don’t need to
> handle multiple computers or high-def video movies, just programming and
> office work. I need a bit more distance from my computer which must
On 5/27/24 17:09, Paul M Foster wrote:
The local
internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My
idea is to put a device which receives wireless signal from the
router/modem, and has an RJ45 jack in it in each room. So each room would
have one of these, and the device
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 05:09:02PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?)
Because to the average person, "Internet access" equals "wifi". They
use the terms interchangeably.
Also, some recent model laptops no longer have an ethernet port. If you
want to conne
On Mon, 27 May 2024 17:09:02 -0400
Paul M Foster wrote:
Hello Paul,
>for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
Cost
Lack of understanding (in the building trade)
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Folks:
At some point this year, I'm moving into a new house, and it is not wired
for internet (WHY aren't new houses wired with Cat5/6/7?). The local
internet provider will likely provide a wireless router, as they all do. My
idea is to put a device which receives wireless signal from the
router/m
Has anyone had experience using a KVM setup (at least one HDMI and two USB
ports) and using cat 5/6/7 between user and the computer? I don’t need to
handle multiple computers or high-def video movies, just programming and
office work. I need a bit more distance from my computer which must stay in
On 5/27/24 20:02, Stefan Monnier wrote:
# apt install -t=bookworm db-util db5.3-util libc-bin libc-dev-bin
I can never remember exactly what `-t` really does, but I suspect you'll
need things like
apt install libc-bin/bookworm
To install a single backported (or other release) package,
a
On Mon 27 May 2024 at 14:02:47 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> > # apt install -t=bookworm db-util db5.3-util libc-bin libc-dev-bin
> >>
> >> I can never remember exactly what `-t` really does, but I suspect you'll
> >> need things like
> >>
> >> apt install libc-bin/bookworm
> >
> > To i
>> > # apt install -t=bookworm db-util db5.3-util libc-bin libc-dev-bin
>>
>> I can never remember exactly what `-t` really does, but I suspect you'll
>> need things like
>>
>> apt install libc-bin/bookworm
>
> To install a single backported (or other release) package,
> apt-get install pack
On Mon 27 May 2024 at 12:23:41 (-0400), Michael Grant wrote:
> [ … ]
> so I thought I'd try the same process with db5.3, but removing db5.3
> wants to remove a slew of packages:
>
> # apt reinstall -s libdb5.3/bookworm
> ...
> Selected version '5.3.28+dfsg2-1' (Debian:12.5/stable [amd64]) for 'lib
Hi,
I recently bought a ThinkPad X13 Gen5 (benefiting from the discount
generously offered by Lenovo to Debian Developers).
The laptop runs Debian Bookworm, and I got almost all the hardware to
work by using more recent kernel and firmware files (see Debian bug
reports #1070647, #1070648, #107065
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > # apt install -t=bookworm db-util db5.3-util libc-bin libc-dev-bin
>
> I can never remember exactly what `-t` really does, but I suspect you'll
> need things like
>
> apt install libc-bin/bookworm
To install a single backported (or other release) package,
apt-get
Even shorter:
apt autopurge
Apropos to my recent message regarding system configuration, I keep a
personal metapackage around that lists the packages I really want.
About once a quarter I do the following (as root):
# apt-mark showmanual | grep -v mrc-mars | xargs apt-mark auto
# apt autopurge
On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 4:40 PM Mike Castle wrote:
> Thanks for all of the commentary so far.
>
> Once I get something working, I will *try* to remember to follow up
> here with what I've managed to cobble together.
I have done quite a bit of research and experimentation and finally
settled on a
Hans, thanks for that but I am a bit confused following your
instructions. Did you mean to I should remove the lines for 'stable'
from sources.list? Or remove the lines for 'testing'? I am trying to
get the packages to go back to stable.
I am more familiar with apt than aptitude.
I managed to
Am Montag, 27. Mai 2024, 17:51:23 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 04:59:55PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Eben King (12024-05-27):
> > > Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought
> > > in
> > > at one swell foop? Thanks.
> >
> > The packa
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 04:59:55PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Eben King (12024-05-27):
> > Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought in
> > at one swell foop? Thanks.
>
> The packages you did not choose to install but were installed as a
> consequence are shown b
On Mon, 27 May 2024 10:57:54 -0400
Eben King wrote:
Hello Eben,
>Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought
>in at one swell foop? Thanks.
apt/apt-get autoremove
or
apt/apt-get autoremove --purge
The first removes the packages installed as dependencies, the secon
On Monday, May 27, 2024 5:59:55 PM EEST Nicolas George wrote:
> Eben King (12024-05-27):
> > Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought in
> > at one swell foop? Thanks.
>
> The packages you did not choose to install but were installed as a
> consequence are shown by
Doing "apt-get upgrade" will only upgrade all installed packages, but no new
ones (even, if they are needed).
Better is to do an "apt-get full-upgrade", which will install the whole system
from stable to testing. However, this might also uninstall some wanted
packages, thus often it is calles t
On 27/05/2024 21:28, Michael Grant wrote:
What I want to do is get the system back to just using the packages
from stable rather than testing.
I have never tried the following, so it is better to test it in a
virtual machine or inside a container. I would try to set priority of
bookworm relea
> I needed to install a version of sendmail from testing a while back to
> test it.
Downgrading Debian packages is not well supported, by and large.
So installing `testing` packages into a `stable` install is manageable
(tho it itself can bring trouble) but going back to `stable` afterwards
tends
Eben King (12024-05-27):
> Is there an easier way to uninstall a package and everything it brought in
> at one swell foop? Thanks.
The packages you did not choose to install but were installed as a
consequence are shown by apt-get when you do almost anything:
The following packages were automati
Hey. Occasionally I'll install a package and it brings some other
dependencies with it. Fine. Then if I decide it doesn't work for me and
want to uninstall it, I have to go to the installation history, see what was
installed with it, and for each one find it and flag it for removal. You
can se
On Mon 27 May 2024 at 09:56:54 (-0400), Michael Grant wrote:
> What's the best way to get back to running just the bookworm stable
> packages? I tried what I thought was the obvious way to fix this by
> running:
>
> # apt install -t=bookworm db-util db5.3-util libc-bin libc-dev-bin
> libc-devtoo
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 10:28:37AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 10:19:48AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 09:56:54AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> > > I needed to install a version of sendmail from testing a while back to
> > > test it.
> >
> > You
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 10:19:48AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 09:56:54AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> > I needed to install a version of sendmail from testing a while back to
> > test it.
>
> Your subject header says "bookworm stable". You don't install binary
> packag
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 09:56:54AM -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> I needed to install a version of sendmail from testing a while back to
> test it.
Your subject header says "bookworm stable". You don't install binary
packages from testing on a stable system. You use backports instead.
https://ba
On 2024-05-26, Tim Woodall wrote:
>
> Anyone got any ideas how to disable this?
>
>
If you have ~/.alpine.passfile apparently it will keep asking, but maybe
you don't, in which case I'm stumped.
I needed to install a version of sendmail from testing a while back to
test it. On friday, I ran 'apt upgrade' which looked like it was
going to uninstall and then reinstall the sendmail packages. I let it
run, when it was done, only some of the sendmail packages had
re-installed. Basically, I s
Le 4/24/24 à 13:11, Dan Ritter a écrit> Also, I think you have meanings
reversed.
apt-cache depends psmisc
produces the list of packages that psmisc needs to function.
apt-cache rdepends psmisc
produces the list of packages that need psmisc to be installed
first.
-dsr-
Dan,
Thank you for
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:53:31AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2024 13:08:56 -0400
> Paul M Foster wrote:
>
> > There is a colon in my aliases file. I just omitted it in the email.
>
> Don't do that. Always use copy and paste to convey the contents of a
> configuration file. Mu
On Mon, 27 May 2024 10:00:02 +
André Rodier wrote:
Hello André,
>Anyone know a hosting service, like GitHub or GitLab, offering recent
>Debian
You asked, and were answered, yesterday. It would be preferable to
continue in that thread, rather than start a new one.
--
Regards _ "Va
Dear Debian users,
Anyone know a hosting service, like GitHub or GitLab, offering recent Debian
virtual machines to run tests ?
The last time I checked, they offered old Ubuntu versions or docker images, but
I need a full Debian VM.
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