Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-30 Thread John Hasler
Children are taught in elementary school that computer == Windows. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-30 Thread 타토카
I have another one question, which is important for me. When using debian sid, how much probably, that problems can remove or move to anywhere some important data from my PC (passwords, photos, notes, etc.). I understand that some unstable packages in debian sid can break the system, but what

Re: Looking for a qr code reader/displayer

2024-07-30 Thread gene heskett
On 7/30/24 07:12, gene heskett wrote: On 7/29/24 21:57, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: Un-fortunately, in synaptic, only the first hit seems to have a displayable screenshot. All the rest only have an empty box. So assuming i'm missing the display things, what am I missing? And

Re: Looking for a qr code reader/displayer

2024-07-30 Thread gene heskett
On 7/29/24 21:57, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: Un-fortunately, in synaptic, only the first hit seems to have a displayable screenshot. All the rest only have an empty box. So assuming i'm missing the display things, what am I missing? And assuming I could display them since the first

Re: info is not dead

2024-07-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-07-28 22:49:43 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:23:48 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2024-07-28 00:08:51 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > But for searching, how can one get the previous

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 20:24:32 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >So on the off chance that I had done something in my sleep, I changed >my password, and mail is now downloading. :-) Glad you're going again. TBH, it's a bit rubbish of them to claim you need to pay to get POP/IMAP and

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 30/7/24 19:49, Brad Rogers wrote: mail.com and (incidentally) gmx.com have both 'required' subscription for pop/imap connection for years. I know - I was surprised when they worked, it must be three years ago. So on the off chance that I had done something in my sleep, I changed my

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread erwan
Le 2024-07-30 11:35, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : Good evening All Especially those who were looking for suggestions for an email service provider I have discovered that sometime recently mail.com has disabled pop and imap until you subscribe. In case it may help : a presentation of

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Walt E
On 2024-07-30 17:49, Brad Rogers wrote: FYI: GMX & mail.com are both 1&1 companies, hence the more than similar look to their sites(read: they're almost identical). The only pertinent differences are their postal addresses. Germany for GMX and USA for mail. GMX.com is for global. while

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Walt E
On 2024-07-30 17:35, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Good evening All Especially those who were looking for suggestions for an email service provider I have discovered that sometime recently mail.com has disabled pop and imap until you subscribe. A service that appears to be related to mail.com,

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 7/30/24 à 10:35, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : Good evening All 'Morning! If there is anybody from mail.com on the list   PLEASE  let us know how to overcome your quirks. The world of email quirks is a labyrinth. A good list that has e-mail administrators from around the planet is SDLU

Re: email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 19:35:29 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >I have tried to subscribe to mail.com at their website - to be told mail.com and (incidentally) gmx.com have both 'required' subscription for pop/imap connection for years. I don't pay either of them. I get my mail from

email service providers

2024-07-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Good evening All Especially those who were looking for suggestions for an email service provider I have discovered that sometime recently mail.com has disabled pop and imap until you subscribe. A service that appears to be related to mail.com, has allowed pop and imap activity from my

Re: How to update environment variable output

2024-07-30 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 23/7/24 23:22, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Another is to fetch the epoch time value (%s) and then use that value in all future calls. With GNU date: now=$(date +%s) julian=$(date -d "@$now" +%j) dom=$(date -d "@$now" +%d) Good evening All - especially Greg This process has

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-30 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 30 Jul 2024, Nicolas George wrote: Tim Woodall (12024-07-30): Yes, I use unison to keep some imap servers in sync. Be precise: you use unison to keep the directories that serve as mail storage for some IMAP servers in sync. Your unison does not know that there is IMAP involved.

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-30 Thread Nicolas George
Tim Woodall (12024-07-30): > Yes, I use unison to keep some imap servers in sync. Be precise: you use unison to keep the directories that serve as mail storage for some IMAP servers in sync. Your unison does not know that there is IMAP involved. -- Nicolas George

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-30 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-07-29 14:36, Nicolas George wrote: Hi. I am looking for a tool that reads a mail from its input and stores it into an IMAP mailbox: With a new Dovecot install I believe I copied all the old mails into eg. ~/Maidir/cur and they showed up. I was

Re: [SOLVED] potential bug? - was Re: Problem with cryptsetup-initramfs

2024-07-30 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-29, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting > "Sending the bug report via e-mail" > (about 30 lines down the page) > "An Example Bug Report" > (another 30 lines down the page) Still the first and recommended way is to use the package reportbug which do

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-30 Thread Nicolas George
James Cloos (12024-07-29): > How about keeping a locally patched version of curl on hand (you could > call it something like /usr/local/bin/imap-upload) which sets the flags > as you want them to be? I did not need to ask for help for the obvious solution “write it yourself”, be it from scratch

Re: OT zram

2024-07-30 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-07-29 a las 17:46 -0300, Marcelo Giordano escribió: > Amigos: > > Si tengo una zram de 16gb que en un determinado momento no la estoy usando y > de pronto el sistema la usa, esos 16gb se crean? o ya está creado? https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Zram Según la wiki de Archlinux, el

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-29 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 10:44:37AM +0800, hlyg wrote: [...] > PS: i am aware that linux has more success in server market ... and the mobile market. Android is, on its underbelly, Linux after all. So Linux might have the most installations out there, I guess. Not that Microsoft didn't try --

Re: Looking for a qr code reader/displayer

2024-07-29 Thread gene heskett
On 7/29/24 20:25, allan grossman wrote: zbarcam-gtk or zbarcam-qt should get you where you need to be but I've never used them. cheers - Thanks Allan, qt version no dl perms, gtk installled but can't find in menu's. Might not show up till camera is plugged in & don''t have it yet..

Re: why reliable linux hasn't gained more market share?

2024-07-29 Thread hlyg
i realize i have asked hard question: why free OS hasn't beaten M$ in past 30 years? there's no easy answer, it requires years of experience in Windows and Linux 1st, programmers from proprietary software company are as clever as best from open source community. perhaps they are better

Re: Looking for a qr code reader/displayer

2024-07-29 Thread Dan Ritter
gene heskett wrote: > Un-fortunately, in synaptic, only the first hit seems to have a displayable > screenshot. All the rest only have an empty box. > > So assuming i'm missing the display things, what am I missing? > > And assuming I could display them since the first hit seems to have a >

Re: Looking for a qr code reader/displayer

2024-07-29 Thread allan grossman
zbarcam-gtk or zbarcam-qt should get you where you need to be but I've never used them. cheers - From: gene heskett Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 4:15 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Looking for a qr code reader/displayer Un-fortunately, in

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread George at Clug
On Tuesday, 30-07-2024 at 02:21 Jan Krapivin wrote: > There is Debian community in Discord > > https://discord.gg/debian > > https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=803217=discord#p803217 > > пн, 29 июл. 2024 г. в 19:15, : > > > Michel Verdier wrote: > > > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant

Re: KVM/QEMU/libvirt, and automatically release mouse pointer in Debian guest

2024-07-29 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 29-07-2024 at 14:13 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have KVM/QEMU/libvirt installed to manage my VMs. I have a Debian 12 > guest, x86_64, fully patched. The Debian guest has qemu-guest-agent > installed. The qemu-guest-agent service is running on the Debian > guest. > >

Looking for a qr code reader/displayer

2024-07-29 Thread gene heskett
Un-fortunately, in synaptic, only the first hit seems to have a displayable screenshot. All the rest only have an empty box. So assuming i'm missing the display things, what am I missing? And assuming I could display them since the first hit seems to have a screenshot, which seems to be

OT zram

2024-07-29 Thread Marcelo Giordano
Amigos: Si tengo una zram de 16gb que en un determinado momento no la estoy usando y de pronto el sistema la usa, esos 16gb se crean? o ya está creado? o sea, lo digo de otra manera, la zram esta en un disco que tiene 14gb de espacio disponible, cuando se ejecute va a ocupar todo el disco o

Re: OT Dual Channel

2024-07-29 Thread Marcelo Giordano
Gracias por todas las ayudas. Me sirvió de mucho

Re: Debian LTS

2024-07-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Hi John, On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:46:43PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > I need to use Debian 11 for about an additional 6 months, (its a > very complicated system.) > > Current Debian 11 LTS: > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free > deb-src

Debian LTS

2024-07-29 Thread John Conover
I need to use Debian 11 for about an additional 6 months, (its a very complicated system.) Current Debian 11 LTS: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free deb

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Donald Norwood
Hi, (I am subscribed to the list, but a CC would be appreciated :) ) On 7/28/24 16:53, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: >> Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it... > > Sadly, the Debian project is not

matither benson

2024-07-29 Thread matither benson
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matither benson

2024-07-29 Thread matither benson
Espero de corazón que estés disfrutando de un día fantástico Hace poco te envié un mensaje con un enlace que podría interesarte. Asegúrate de no perder esta oportunidad. Revisa tu carpeta de correo no deseado en caso de que haya terminado allí. Cordialmente

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behaviorofifupdownpackage)

2024-07-29 Thread gene heskett
On 7/29/24 04:47, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] I can't even post a 10k .png here. I don't believe you. There sure is a limit, 10k seems too small. It may have been bigger, its long forgotten but it was small and it was silently

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread James Cloos
> "NG" == Nicolas George writes: NG> I got curl to work (I did not know that curl could do IMAP): NG> curl --user george --url imaps://server/Mail/testcurl --upload-file /tmp/mail NG> Unfortunately, curl hardcodes that mail uploaded that way are seen: NG> /* Send the APPEND command */

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread Darac Marjal
On 29/07/2024 14:36, Nicolas George wrote: Hi. I am looking for a tool that reads a mail from its input and stores it into an IMAP mailbox: cat mail_file | imapupload imaps://george@server/Mail/incoming The goal would be to provide our users an alternative to forwarding their mail to another

Re: Switch boot entry by power-on reason

2024-07-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David and Thomas collaboratingly wrote: > > smbios --type 1 --get-byte 24 --set result hede wrote: > Many thanks, it works :-) \o/\o/ So the community and its resources are not that useless \o/\o/ Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Switch boot entry by power-on reason

2024-07-29 Thread hede
Hello David and Thomas, On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 10:45:59 + David wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 at 09:46, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > ... > So your manually written grub.cfg. would contain something like the below > lines > in addition to whatever other content you need to boot the machine. >

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Jan Krapivin
There is Debian community in Discord https://discord.gg/debian https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=803217=discord#p803217 пн, 29 июл. 2024 г. в 19:15, : > Michel Verdier wrote: > > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote: > > > > +1 to all you say. > > > > > Maybe one of you younger folks

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread debian-user
Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote: > > +1 to all you say. > > > Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with > > keeping up with a forum like that. > > Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a > mail-to-news gateway. It ease a

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 20:26:00 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > If I want to use rescue mode for debian via netinst, will my pc have to > have an internet connection? Yea, it is a stupid question, but anyway. No, you do not need an internet connection to boot the netinst image. Not even to install from it

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-29 Thread 타토카
If I want to use rescue mode for debian via netinst, will my pc have to have an internet connection? Yea, it is a stupid question, but anyway. On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 7:11 PM Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:50:48 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > Yes, I think so, that would be a good idea to

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12024-07-29): > You did not say you wanted to do this NON-INTERACTIVELY. Yes, I did, in the very first message: “The goal would be to provide our users an alternative to forwarding their mail to another mail provider” > Why do you want to do it non-interactively? It's ONE

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 16:23:14 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > I want: transfer ONE message to an IMAP account. > Then use the mutt solution. > And mutt's behavior is too unpredictable to be used in a non-interactive > way. You did not say you wanted to do this NON-INTERACTIVELY. Why do you

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12024-07-29): > https://superuser.com/questions/191719/transferring-lots-of-messages-between-imap-accounts Closer, but no: I want: transfer ONE message to an IMAP account. This: transfer LOTS OF messages to an IMAP account. imapsync (actually mbsync) is really good for what it

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 16:09:16 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > mick.crane (12024-07-29): > > > I am looking for a tool that reads a mail from its input and stores it > > > into an IMAP mailbox: > > With a new Dovecot install > > Thanks, but this is not at all what I am asking. Dovecot is the

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread Nicolas George
mick.crane (12024-07-29): > > I am looking for a tool that reads a mail from its input and stores it > > into an IMAP mailbox: > With a new Dovecot install Thanks, but this is not at all what I am asking. Dovecot is the server, I am asking for a client. -- Nicolas George

Re: Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-07-29 14:36, Nicolas George wrote: Hi. I am looking for a tool that reads a mail from its input and stores it into an IMAP mailbox: With a new Dovecot install I believe I copied all the old mails into eg. ~/Maidir/cur and they showed up. I was concerned the

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-29 Thread 타토카
Yes, I think so, that would be a good idea to install debian sid on VM first. Debian installation image? Do you mean debian netinst? Or debian live's versions? On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 3:43 PM Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:57:48 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > Is it enough to have usb Debian

Tool to store on IMAP server

2024-07-29 Thread Nicolas George
Hi. I am looking for a tool that reads a mail from its input and stores it into an IMAP mailbox: cat mail_file | imapupload imaps://george@server/Mail/incoming The goal would be to provide our users an alternative to forwarding their mail to another mail provider that we will have to forbid

Re: Editing grub/EFI config on (net) installer ISO for serial install

2024-07-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > Is there some advantage in me editing one of the files in the EFI > partition as opposed to just putting the grub serial directives in > /boot/grub/grub.cfg of the ISO? None that i know of. Editing /efi/debian/grub.cfg of the EFI partition filesystem would just happen

Re: Editing grub/EFI config on (net) installer ISO for serial install

2024-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:42:05PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > Should I just edit that into $iso_root/boot/grub/grub.cfg and repack > > the ISO? > > If altering the EFI partition is not viable, then surely: Yes. Is there some advantage in me editing one of the files

RE: Re: server latency

2024-07-29 Thread Walt E
HelloAfter researching it I found tcp ping by hping is useful for my situation.https://www.slashroot.in/what-tcp-ping-and-how-it-usedThanks for all your help.- 원본 메일 - 보낸사람: Andy Smith 받는사람: debian-user@lists.debian.org 날짜: 24.07.29 05:33 GMT

Re: Editing grub/EFI config on (net) installer ISO for serial install

2024-07-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > Currently when I add the Debian 12 netinst ISO as a virtual media it > EFI boots grub, not isolinux, That's because Debian ISOs advertise a EFI System Partition with GRUB initial boot equipment: $ xorriso -indev debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso \

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-29 Thread Joe
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:57:48 +0500 타토카 wrote: > Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use > Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main > computer will be "broken". > > It would certainly help, though better would be a hard/SSD drive with USB

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Joe
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 06:24:35 +0200 wrote: > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > > > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to > > > join it... > > > > Sadly, the

Editing grub/EFI config on (net) installer ISO for serial install

2024-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I am used to installing Debian by PXE boot and serial console. For that purpose I'm familiar with editing the isolinux config files to have the kernel serial settings (console=ttyS… etc) in isolinux/txt.cfg. Now for the first time I am trying to install a system that has a management

Re: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-07-28 22:26:10 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:43:01 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2024-07-28 00:07:56 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > It looks accidental to me that systemd did that tidying up before > > > procps had attempted to remove the file that it

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behaviorofifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 7/29/24 03:53, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of > > > > software

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote: > > +1 to all you say. > > > Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with keeping > > up with a forum like that. > > Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a mail-to-news > gateway. It ease a lot

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behaviorofifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > [...] I can't even post a 10k .png here. I don't believe you. There sure is a limit, 10k seems too small. It'd be unpolite anyway -- forcing 6k people to download your attachments (there are still folks on limited bandwidth,

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behaviorofifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread gene heskett
On 7/29/24 03:53, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote: Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of software made by different people with different purposes. You are the first person to

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:44:03 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hello Jeffrey, >don't allow search engines to crawl their sites. I hadn't even considered that. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent"

Re: KVM/QEMU/libvirt, and automatically release mouse pointer in Debian guest

2024-07-29 Thread didier gaumet
Le 29/07/2024 à 06:13, Jeffrey Walton a écrit : Hi Everyone, I have KVM/QEMU/libvirt installed to manage my VMs. I have a Debian 12 guest, x86_64, fully patched. The Debian guest has qemu-guest-agent installed. The qemu-guest-agent service is running on the Debian guest. The problem is, the

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior ofifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote: > > Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of > > software made by different people with different purposes. You are > > the first person to have mentioned Discord in

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 02:06:09AM +, Walt E wrote: > In some companies they block web traffic to those big forums like reddit. > but mail is always possible to access. Reality check: in a thread about the best way to help end users in 2024, someone suggests that email mailing lists are

Re : [HS] Panne informatique mondiale

2024-07-29 Thread nicolas . patrois
On 28/07/2024 13:59:10, Halbrante wrote: > Le délabrement général de nos pratiques industrielles et > l'incompétence crasse de beaucoup de "managers" ont conduit a adopter les > méthodes > yankees : prendre, sans le leur dire, les "customers" pour des bêta-testeurs ! Sans possibilité pour les

Re: [SOLVED] potential bug? - was Re: Problem with cryptsetup-initramfs

2024-07-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Ian Molton wrote: > Perhaps someone can help me with the bug tracker? If i have to submit a bug, then i use the e-mail way. See: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting "Sending the bug report via e-mail" (about 30 lines down the page) "An Example Bug Report" (another 30 lines down

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 1:53 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500 > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Hello Nate, > > >Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI > > Discourse also does this; > > Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-29 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote: +1 to all you say. > Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with keeping > up with a forum like that. Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a mail-to-news gateway. It ease a lot coping with this change of medium. If the

Re: [SOLVED] potential bug? - was Re: Problem with cryptsetup-initramfs

2024-07-29 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-07-28, Ian Molton wrote: > Perhaps someone can help me with the bug tracker? Install the package reportbug. It's as easy as writing a mail.

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: Hello Nate, >Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI Discourse also does this; Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a supported browser to view rich content, log in and reply. Whilst it's not

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it... > > Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and > bless a

KVM/QEMU/libvirt, and automatically release mouse pointer in Debian guest

2024-07-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, I have KVM/QEMU/libvirt installed to manage my VMs. I have a Debian 12 guest, x86_64, fully patched. The Debian guest has qemu-guest-agent installed. The qemu-guest-agent service is running on the Debian guest. The problem is, the Debian guest does not automatically release the

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!

2024-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 09:45:44 (-0500), allan wrote: > I've run Sid exclusively for years; the last time I broke it badly > enough to justify a reinstall was in 2013 and that was for not paying > attention during an upgrade :) > > My heartburn is I would have expected to see this change in a >

Re: info is not dead

2024-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:23:48 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-07-28 00:08:51 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 02:06:38 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2024-07-23 11:13:47 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > > The GNU info documentation is really intended to be

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!; was: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jul 2024 at 09:23:16 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 28/07/2024 20:08, Erwan David wrote: > > I also have a 99-systcl.conf which is a copy of the former /etc/sysctl.conf > > When you are going to replace a file provided by a package, check if > it is a configuration file at first (e.g.

Re: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 16:43:01 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-07-28 00:07:56 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 28 Jul 2024 at 04:25:32 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2024-07-27 20:25:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 01:17:19 +0200,

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior ofifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread gene heskett
On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 09:09:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I like this forum/format Not wanting to try to convince people on a mailing list to not be on a mailing list, so keeping this brief, but… IMO Discord pretty much sucks. Discourse is

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!; was: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-28 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/07/2024 20:08, Erwan David wrote: I also have a 99-systcl.conf which is a copy of the former /etc/sysctl.conf When you are going to replace a file provided by a package, check if it is a configuration file at first (e.g. dpkg -s). Despite most of files in /etc/ are marked as

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-28 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/07/2024 02:57, 타토카 wrote: Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will be "broken". Since you are asking this question, likely it is not enough. If your hardware allows it then consider

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread Walt E
July 29, 2024 at 9:09 AM, "Patrick Wiseman" wrote: > > > > I mostly lurk here but I like this forum/format and hope Debian sticks with > > it. IMO Discord pretty much sucks. There's a r/debian subreddit which looks > > quite active and I've found other subreddits helpful. > > Patrick > In

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2024 28 Jul 20:11 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I mostly lurk here but I like this forum/format and hope Debian sticks with > it. IMO Discord pretty much sucks. There's a r/debian subreddit which looks > quite active and I've found other subreddits helpful. Discourse and Discord are two

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 09:09:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I like this forum/format Not wanting to try to convince people on a mailing list to not be on a mailing list, so keeping this brief, but… > IMO Discord pretty much sucks. Discourse is not Discord. They are completely

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!

2024-07-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-07-28 20:01:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the interests of posting something *useful*, here's a timeline. > As I understand it, here's what's happened so far: > > 2024-06-23: bug #1074156 filed against package procps > procps: Depend or Recommend linux-sysctl-defaults > Bug

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!

2024-07-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 01:13:10 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2024-07-28 14:13:09 +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > And posting on debian-user with a bombastic Subject line which implies > > that this is a widespread issue when it really only seems to exist in > > Unstable is, quite

Re: systemd may silently break your system!

2024-07-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-07-28 11:21:01 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 16:43:01 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > More or less. In the systemd case, for each file, either one chooses > > it, i.e. one has all the current defaults, or one chooses to provide > > a replacement under /etc, i.e.

Re: Upgrading systemd may silently break your Unstable/Sid system!

2024-07-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2024-07-28 14:13:09 +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > And posting on debian-user with a bombastic Subject line which implies > that this is a widespread issue when it really only seems to exist in > Unstable is, quite frankly, in my opinion at best dishonest. No, the breakage was done *on

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:32:58PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > I never read web forums, I only really search for things in a > search engine and then end up on a forum with possible answers. The fact is that millions of tech questions are asked and answered on Stack-like sites, probably

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread Michael Grant
On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it... > > Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and > bless a

Problem WiFi

2024-07-28 Thread Ian Molton
I have had some luck with problem WiFi on laptops by setting the acpi_osi type to one of various windows types on the kernel command line. You can add it in /etc/default/grub Remember to run update-grub after editing it.

Re: Testing CD preseed oops

2024-07-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:39:47 +0200 john doe wrote: > I guess, this would be more for the debian-boot mailing list, as > apparently this is a regression. Thank you. I have re-sent. (rather than resented :-) > > In my case, I use the Qemu's built-in tftp server. Thanks for the suggestion. I

Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

2024-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it... Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and bless a modern web support community such as Discourse (a Stack Overflow or

Re: Testing CD preseed oops

2024-07-28 Thread john doe
On 7/28/24 21:55, Charles Curley wrote: I have the latest testing netinst (20240722-03:17), and would like to install it on a virtual machine. I have a preseed file on a USB stick. As this is a virtual machine, the virtual hard drive is at vda, and the USB stick shows up at sda. When I go to

Re: server latency

2024-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 01:23:28PM +, Walt E wrote: > However, some servers, such as by Azure's default security policy, prohibit > icmp ping. > So, in this situation, how do I know the local latency to those servers? I pick a port that I know is open and use a traceroute that uses

Re: [HS] Panne informatique mondiale

2024-07-28 Thread Pierre Malard
+++ > Le 28 juil. 2024 à 13:59, Halbrante a écrit : > > Pour avoir bossé 35 ans chez notre équipementier télécoms (ex)national (j'ai > aussi 73ans) j'abonde sans réserve  > > A coté de nos produits purement "télécom", j'ai vu passer IBM, UNIX et > Microsoft mais à une époque, la

Problem WiFi

2024-07-28 Thread Riccardo
Hello, I have a HP Compaq Presario CQ 60 notebook from 2009, I have this WiFi problem with any GNU/Linux distro: I have to leave the WiFi always active, if I turn it off it doesn't turn on anymore, to restart it I have to restart the notebook. I currently use Debian Bookworm 12 but in my opinion

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

2024-07-28 Thread 타토카
Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will be "broken". On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:44 PM David Wright wrote: > On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:44:02 (+), Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2024

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