Re: apt upgrade in buster is confused

2023-07-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 01:35:49PM -0700, Scott Edwards wrote: > https://paste.debian.net/1286823/ > > I just want to upgrade to stable, but I'm stuck here buster is Debian 10. stable is Debian 12. If you are trying to upgrade buster to stable, you are making a mistake as you are not suppose

Re: apt upgrade in buster is confused

2023-07-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:35:49 -0700 Scott Edwards wrote: > https://paste.debian.net/1286823/ > > I just want to upgrade to stable, but I'm stuck here Stuck where? What instructions did you follow. Did you modify /etc/apt/sources.list? Did you run "apt update" before "apt upgrade"? -- Does anyb

Re: apt upgrade in buster is confused

2023-07-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 4:36 PM Scott Edwards wrote: > > https://paste.debian.net/1286823/ > > I just want to upgrade to stable, but I'm stuck here Run 'apt-get update' first, and then 'apt-get upgrade'. If Apt-get fails, then try Aptitude. Aptitude has a better solver, and can often come up wit

apt upgrade in buster is confused

2023-07-24 Thread Scott Edwards
https://paste.debian.net/1286823/ I just want to upgrade to stable, but I'm stuck here

Re: kmail - mailadresse and name confused

2020-08-20 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 21:55 +0200, Hans wrote: > Answer myself: There is ~/.config/kmailrc, which got the known mailaddresses > with names. However, when I delete them in this file and restart kmail, the > mail addresses I sent to in the past. are not forgotten. So there is no > change > in the

Re: kmail - mailadresse and name confused

2020-08-19 Thread Hans
Answer myself: There is ~/.config/kmailrc, which got the known mailaddresses with names. However, when I delete them in this file and restart kmail, the mail addresses I sent to in the past. are not forgotten. So there is no change in the behavour. This led me to the conclusion, that these inf

Re: kmail - mailadresse and name confused

2020-08-19 Thread Hans
> In my older version of kmail (on Wheezy -- I'd expect your using a newer > version) there is a section (essentially a cache) of Recent Addresses in > /.kde/share/config/kmailrc. > > If you have the same file, if you go in and edit those addresses that should > fix the problem. Yes, I got a newe

Re: kmail - mailadresse and name confused

2020-08-19 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 05:58:53 AM Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > somehow in kmail the mailadresse and the name are confused. When I want to > write a mail, by typing the mailadresse is intelligently fullfilled, but > the belonging name is not correctly added. Also on most

kmail - mailadresse and name confused

2020-08-19 Thread Hans
Hi folks, somehow in kmail the mailadresse and the name are confused. When I want to write a mail, by typing the mailadresse is intelligently fullfilled, but the belonging name is not correctly added. Also on most mailadresses, I get the same name added (guess, there was never a name, so it

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 18 sep 19, 12:20:43, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It is, and the makers lie a lot, taking advantage of the buffering to get > thier 100 MBs rating for small writes. For gigabyte transfers I often > see sub 20 MB/S toward the end. But you may want to steer clear of the > 64GB+ cards, exfat is

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread ghe
On 9/17/19 4:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > I'd luv to give it a try, since I've never tried it, but unpacking the > NOOBS to an sd card seems to be a secret, so what linux command will > unpack the .zip and put it on the card? Attached is the instruction file I wrote for myself because the proce

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 19 September 2019 03:59:24 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 21:19:45) > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > > > > > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 21:19:45) > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > > > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > > > > Jonas writes: > > > > > Please demonstrate just one single exam

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-19 Thread Joe
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 21:39:23 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Joe writes: > > What would be a real pain is actually accessing HDMI signals while > > the thing is running. It's no good just looking into a connector, > > it needs to see something hanging on the end before it will power > > up and activat

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 22:39:23 John Hasler wrote: > Joe writes: > > What would be a real pain is actually accessing HDMI signals while > > the thing is running. It's no good just looking into a connector, it > > needs to see something hanging on the end before it will power up > > and act

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > What would be a real pain is actually accessing HDMI signals while the > thing is running. It's no good just looking into a connector, it needs > to see something hanging on the end before it will power up and > activate. Well of course he'd have to build a breakout box. Trickier th

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 17:49:49 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > 2 possible differences. Its not powered correctly when powered from > > gpio pin 6=gnd, and 2=5.11 volts. A pi3b has been running that way > > for 2+ years and the gpio is said to be 100% pi3b compatible.  Argue > >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > 2 possible differences. Its not powered correctly when powered from gpio > pin 6=gnd, and 2=5.11 volts. A pi3b has been running that way for 2+ > years and the gpio is said to be 100% pi3b compatible.  Argue with me on > that, this rp-4 came with no docs. Yes but we are alre

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 16:57:14 Thomas D Dial wrote: > On Wed, 2019-09-18 at 09:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 16:09:48 Joe wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:20:22 -0500 > > John Hasler wrote: > > Your scope could show you eye patterns but that's probably of little > > use. You need to look at all three data channels and the clock > > (these are differential so you need eight

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Wed, 2019-09-18 at 09:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > > wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Joe
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:20:22 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Your scope could show you eye patterns but that's probably of little > use. You need to look at all three data channels and the clock (these > are differential so you need eight inputs) and trigger on patterns. > otherwise all you will lear

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 12:58:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > > > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > > > Jonas writes: > > > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster > > > > than cp to transfer a full

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 18:20:43) > On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > > > Jonas writes: > > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster than > > > cp to transfer a full raw image to a raw device! > > > > On modern systems you would probably

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:36:41 John Hasler wrote: > Jonas writes: > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster than > > cp to transfer a full raw image to a raw device! > > On modern systems you would probably need to be doing terabyte > transfers between disks on the

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 11:20:22 John Hasler wrote: > Your scope could show you eye patterns but that's probably of little > use. You need to look at all three data channels and the clock (these > are differential so you need eight inputs) and trigger on patterns. > otherwise all you will

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Hasler (2019-09-18 17:36:41) > Jonas writes: > > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster than > > cp to transfer a full raw image to a raw device! > > On modern systems you would probably need to be doing terabyte > transfers between disks on the same machine.

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Jonas writes: > Please demonstrate just one single example of dd being faster than cp > to transfer a full raw image to a raw device! On modern systems you would probably need to be doing terabyte transfers between disks on the same machine. Back in the days when a megabyte was a lot dd was *much

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Your scope could show you eye patterns but that's probably of little use. You need to look at all three data channels and the clock (these are differential so you need eight inputs) and trigger on patterns. otherwise all you will learn is that the interface is clocking. -- John Hasler jhas...@ne

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 09:48:24 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show > > what a working hdmi socket has for signals? > > All digital. You need a logic analyzer. I could have had one that > would do the job for you at the

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 08:38:11AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Jonas writes: > > Essentiall you want to copy all raw content onto the raw device. > > > This works too (and not only with specially crafted zip files): > > > $ unzip foo.zip > > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Hasler (2019-09-18 15:38:11) > Jonas writes: > > Essentiall you want to copy all raw content onto the raw device. > > > This works too (and not only with specially crafted zip files): > > > $ unzip foo.zip > > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" > > I'd add a sync co

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show what > a working hdmi socket has for signals? All digital. You need a logic analyzer. I could have had one that would do the job for you at the Stout surplus sale last week for $20 but I decided that I didn't need i

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread John Hasler
Jonas writes: > Essentiall you want to copy all raw content onto the raw device. > This works too (and not only with specially crafted zip files): > $ unzip foo.zip > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" I'd add a sync command to be sure all buffers are flushed. > dd is *not* a b

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 09:27:23AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > And my furniture/carpenter skills mean I have lots of those tools > available too, I build green and green style stuff, but the green & > green joints are carved by cnc milling machines running code I wrote. > Consistent joi

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:57:43 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > >

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 03:06:06PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [...] > > > $ unzip foo.zip > > > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" > > > > Also spelt "zcat foo.zip > /dev/sd_" for those who don't want to leave > > a file around they have to delete later. > > ...for speci

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:51:31 David wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 21:46, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show > > what a working hdmi socket has for signals? > > There are no analog signals on the HDMI connector. Only several pairs

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 08:42:21 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > > > > wrote: > > > > what linux command will unpack the .zip and put it on t

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread David
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 22:57, wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > $ unzip foo.zip > > $ su -c "cp image-unpacked-from-foo-zip /dev/sd_" > > Also spelt "zcat foo.zip > /dev/sd_" for those who don't want to > leave a file around they have to delete lat

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting to...@tuxteam.de (2019-09-18 14:57:43) > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > > wrote: > > > > > wh

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 07:46:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > > > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > And that res

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 02:42:21PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > > wrote: > > > > what linux command will unpack the .zip and put it on the car

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread David
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 21:46, Gene Heskett wrote: > Does anyone have some typical scope waveforms pix that would show what a > working hdmi socket has for signals? There are no analog signals on the HDMI connector. Only several pairs of conductors for different clocked serial data. Also, if the

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-18 13:46:38) > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett > > wrote: > > > what linux command will unpack the .zip and put it on the card? [...] > > 3) write the SD card > > (replace my /dev/sd_ with your SD ca

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 22:05:28 David wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an > > > > iso9660 image

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread David
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 08:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an > > > iso9660 image, and I don't believe the rpi-3b supports that for a > > > boo

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Schmitt writes: > I get the impression that uboot is a usual firmware and bootloader, > but that there are also mechanisms which rather remind me of the ROM > of my VIC-20. On boards like this UBoot is usually stored in onboard memory and pretty much is the "BIOS" and the bootloader as well

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 15:07:30 ghe wrote: > On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an > > iso9660 image, and I don't believe the rpi-3b supports that for a > > boot medium. dos/fat32 only I believe. Obviously I got those ima

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 14:04:30 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b [...] > > /dev/sde1 /media/sde1 iso9660 ro,relatime 0 0 > > /dev/sde2 /media/sde2 vf

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 13:48:35 John Hasler wrote: > Looks like you copied the file to the first partition rather than > writing the image to the raw device (I've made that mistake > myself). What command did you use? sudo dd if=debian-10.1.0-armhf-netinst.iso bs=4096 of=/dev/sde The /dev/

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread ghe
On 9/17/19 11:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > And that results in exactly the same effect, partitiuon 1 is an iso9660 > image, and I don't believe the rpi-3b supports that for a boot medium. > dos/fat32 only I believe. Obviously I got those images from the wrong > place in the debian file system.

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b [...] > /dev/sde1 /media/sde1 iso9660 ro,relatime 0 0 > /dev/sde2 /media/sde2 vfat > rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortn

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread John Hasler
Looks like you copied the file to the first partition rather than writing the image to the raw device (I've made that mistake myself). What command did you use? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 12:45:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings to all debian puzzle solvers incorporated; > > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b but my user software, > linuxcnc was built for armhf and would

confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings to all debian puzzle solvers incorporated; I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b but my user software, linuxcnc was built for armhf and would not run. I'm capable of building that from src, but was not able

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-05-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 ian 19, 13:36:37, Kent West wrote: > > The basic difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is that upgrade > doesn't remove existing or pull in not-installed stuff, whereas > dist-upgrade might. That is true for 'apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade'. 'apt upgrade' will install packages. >

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 8:25 PM Katnip wrote: > Hi, that is my bad. typos.it should read sudo apt update && sudo apt > full-upgrade > > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Saturday, January 26, 2019 12:38 AM, David Wright < > deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > > > On Fri 25 Jan 2019 at 23

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:39 PM David Wright wrote: > On Fri 25 Jan 2019 at 23:46:22 (+), Katnip wrote: > > or sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-update > ↑↑↑ > > I've never seen this one. What does it do? > Some sort of automatic editing of sources.list

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Peter Ehlert
9.7 is not a new version. It is a new ISO to install Debian 9 with the latest updates. Just update and your "old version" becomes the New On January 25, 2019 4:38:42 PM David Wright wrote: On Fri 25 Jan 2019 at 23:46:22 (+), Katnip wrote: or sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-update

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Jan 2019 at 23:46:22 (+), Katnip wrote: > or sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-update ↑↑↑ I've never seen this one. What does it do? Some sort of automatic editing of sources.list? Cheers, David.

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Default User
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019, 15:35 Pete Geenhuizen Well now I certainly a few things to mull over. > > Thanks for the responses and suggestions. > > Pete > > > > On 01/25/2019 12:23 PM, Pete Geenhuizen wrote: > > I am mainly a Centos user and am quite a novice when it comes to Debian > and I have a compu

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Pete Geenhuizen
Well now I certainly a few things to mull over. Thanks for the responses and suggestions. Pete On 01/25/2019 12:23 PM, Pete Geenhuizen wrote: I am mainly a Centos user and am quite a novice when it comes to Debian and I have a computer which is currently running Stretch 9.6 and I recently

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:36 PM Brian wrote: > On Fri 25 Jan 2019 at 13:11:46 -0600, Kent West wrote: > > > # apt dist-upgrade > > apt full-upgrade > > Fortunately, dist-upgrade also works in the same way even though it is > not documented in the stretch manual > > Oh yeah; I forget. I think I re

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:24 PM Paul Sutton wrote: > > On 25/01/2019 19:11, Kent West wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:10 PM Kent West > > wrote: > > > > > > $ apt update > > $ apt dist-upgrade > > > > > > Sorry, that should have been > > > > # sudo apt

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 Jan 2019 at 13:11:46 -0600, Kent West wrote: > # apt dist-upgrade apt full-upgrade Fortunately, dist-upgrade also works in the same way even though it is not documented in the stretch manual

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Paul Sutton
On 25/01/2019 19:11, Kent West wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:10 PM Kent West > wrote: > > > $ apt update > $ apt dist-upgrade > > > Sorry, that should have been > > # sudo apt update > # sudo apt dist-upgrade > > or, as root, > > # apt update > # apt dist-up

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:10 PM Kent West wrote: > > $ apt update > $ apt dist-upgrade > > Sorry, that should have been # sudo apt update # sudo apt dist-upgrade or, as root, # apt update # apt dist-upgrade -- Kent West<")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM Pete Geenhuizen wrote: > I am mainly a Centos user and am quite a novice when it comes to Debian > and I have a computer which is currently running Stretch 9.6 and I recently > install apt 1.4.9. > > With the release of Stretch 9.7 and because of the recent vulner

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Pete, On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 12:23:27PM -0500, Pete Geenhuizen wrote: > I am mainly a Centos user and am quite a novice when it comes to Debian and > I have a computer which is currently running Stretch 9.6 and I recently > install apt 1.4.9. So you already have version 1.4.9? What does: dpk

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 12:23:27PM -0500, Pete Geenhuizen wrote: > I am mainly a Centos user and am quite a novice when it comes to Debian and > I have a computer which is currently running Stretch 9.6 and I recently > install apt 1.4.9. > > With the release of Stretch 9.7 and because of the recen

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread deloptes
Pete Geenhuizen wrote: > I am mainly a Centos user and am quite a novice when it comes to Debian > and I have a computer which is currently running Stretch 9.6 and I > recently install apt 1.4.9. > > With the release of Stretch 9.7 and because of the recent vulnerability > discovered in apt I'm n

I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Pete Geenhuizen
I am mainly a Centos user and am quite a novice when it comes to Debian and I have a computer which is currently running Stretch 9.6 and I recently install apt 1.4.9. With the release of Stretch 9.7 and because of the recent vulnerability discovered in apt I'm not sure how to proceed. Accord

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 September 2018 01:24:35 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 11:46:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 02 September 2018 06:27:01 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Amanda is not good for the situation you describe. > > > > No its not ideal in some cases,, which is why I wrot

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 11:46:44AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 02 September 2018 06:27:01 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Amanda is not good for the situation you describe. > > No its not ideal in some cases,, which is why I wrote a wrapper script > for the make a backup portions of amanda. W

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Jose M Calhariz
On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 06:27:01AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 04:09:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > I recently messed up some files and decided to resort to the backup to > > recover them. I was able to do so, but the process left me wondering if > > I would really be

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 02 September 2018 06:27:01 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 04:09:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > I recently messed up some files and decided to resort to the backup > > to recover them. I was able to do so, but the process left me > > wondering if I would really be in a

Re: Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 04:09:22PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > I recently messed up some files and decided to resort to the backup to > recover them. I was able to do so, but the process left me wondering if > I would really be in a position to do so in all cases. For example, > Amanda configu

Confused by Amanda

2018-09-02 Thread Mark Fletcher
Hello I use Amanda for daily backups on Stretch. I found it not too difficult to set up once I got my head around its virtual tape concept. Recently, prompted by not very much, I have started to question whether having these backups really put me in a position to restore the machine if I need

Re: Debian Stretch Am Confused about /dev/dsp

2018-08-31 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/31/2018 03:51 AM, didier gaumet wrote: Hello, from what I understand, using alsa-oss would be better than using the OSS emulation module, partircularly if one is to use sound plug-ins? https://packages.debian.org/stretch/alsa-oss If you use pulse you can execute your program using the

Re: Debian Stretch Am Confused about /dev/dsp

2018-08-31 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, from what I understand, using alsa-oss would be better than using the OSS emulation module, partircularly if one is to use sound plug-ins? https://packages.debian.org/stretch/alsa-oss

Re: Debian Stretch Am Confused about /dev/dsp

2018-08-30 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 03:10:24PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > The software I wrote doesn't predate oss but some > documentation I red years ago that probably does predate oss was > what I used to wrige some C routines that send and receive sound > plus use ioctl to set, say, /dev/dsp or

Re: Debian Stretch Am Confused about /dev/dsp

2018-08-30 Thread Martin McCormick
Greg Wooledge writes: > /dev/dsp is part of the legacy OSS (Open Sound System) interface. If > you play audio using only ALSA, or ALSA + Pulse, you do not need this > older interface. > > If your software requires the /dev/dsp interface (because it predates > ALSA), you can try loading the snd-p

Re: Debian Stretch Am Confused about /dev/dsp

2018-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:14:57PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > After successfully installing stretch on a system, there > was no /dev/dsp. I needed to play some mp3 files and so > installed mplayer. [...] /dev/dsp is part of the legacy OSS (Open Sound System) interface. If you play a

Debian Stretch Am Confused about /dev/dsp

2018-08-30 Thread Martin McCormick
days, one should not install alsa-base. As I reported, this system is capable of /dev/dsp but it seems to have lost it again. That is why I am confused. Thanks for any constructive suggestions. Martin McCormick

Chaos of confusion RESOLVED - was [Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/]

2017-04-03 Thread Richard Owlett
no (see below) [massive snip] Of course, if you start your path with /, it's an absolute path, like /usr/local/bin/foo/command. That was the key. *BUT* it went unrecognized until crashed full tilt into another problem. My subject line SHOULD HAVE BEEN: " When specifying path to file

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-28 Thread Brian
On Tue 28 Mar 2017 at 13:09:57 -0400, songbird wrote: > kAt wrote: > ... > > I have an example where this might be useful or then I am not > > understanding the difference. > > > > Let's say you have an executable package in the system and let's call it > > pkgX > > If you type pkgX in any prompt

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-28 Thread songbird
kAt wrote: ... > I have an example where this might be useful or then I am not > understanding the difference. > > Let's say you have an executable package in the system and let's call it > pkgX > If you type pkgX in any prompt then /usr/bin/pkgX will be executed maybe, maybe not (depends upon p

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread David Wright
On Mon 27 Mar 2017 at 21:48:00 (+), kAt wrote: > PS off-topic rant > I just updated and a package named busybox came up. Since I didn't know > what it was I went into the page and its most recent revision of 1/2017 > seemed to be 3 years ahead of the testing/unstable version that we just > up

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 09:48:00PM +, kAt wrote: > > PS off-topic rant > I just updated and a package named busybox came up. Since I didn't know > what it was I went into the page and its most recent revision of 1/2017 > seemed to be 3 years ahead of the testing/unstable version that we just

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 28/03/17 10:48, kAt wrote: PS off-topic rant I just updated and a package named busybox came up. Since I didn't know what it was I went into the page and its most recent revision of 1/2017 seemed to be 3 years ahead of the testing/unstable version that we just updated now! And this is very

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread kAt
Richard Owlett: > > SEE https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg01167.html > > Where I said "I was not aware that search engines accepted > non-alphanumeric strings as legitimate search terms. Previous experience > had suggested otherwise. > > Thank you, this old dog has learned a new tr

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Mar 2017 at 14:51:08 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/27/2017 02:25 PM, Brian wrote: > > > >Not only do you want a web page but you want one with particular > >characteristics. That's a tall order but we will try. Any particular > >colours it has to be in? > > > > SEE https://lists.

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/27/2017 02:25 PM, Brian wrote: Not only do you want a web page but you want one with particular characteristics. That's a tall order but we will try. Any particular colours it has to be in? SEE https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg01167.html Where I said "I was not aware tha

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:39:41AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/27/2017 09:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > >[give us examples] > > Thought I did ;/ I was just paraphrasing your paragraph, which I snipped out ;-) > >FWIW I studied ph

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Mar 2017 at 06:39:49 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 03/27/2017 01:14 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > *Please avoid trying to briefly explain.* Its hard - but we will try. > *_Please refer me to a good web page._ Deconstruction: Please do my searching for me. > I *KNOW* I'm missin

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/27/2017 09:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 09:26:58AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/27/2017 07:47 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 11:25:30PM +1100, David wrote: On 27 March 2017 at 22:39, Rich

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/27/2017 08:27 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 08:38:08AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 2017-03-27 at 07:14, Richard Owlett wrote: Please avoid trying to briefly explain. Please refer me to a good web page. I *KNOW* I'm missing something fundamental. A web page will eithe

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread Jochen Spieker
Richard Owlett: > On 03/27/2017 07:38 AM, The Wanderer wrote: >> >> Can you explain what your question is? > > No, not even after having having had an explanation that alleviated the > problem. I think you could have posed your question as simply: "What do ./ and ~/ mean? What is the difference

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-27 Thread David Wright
On Mon 27 Mar 2017 at 22:27:05 (+0900), Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 08:38:08AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2017-03-27 at 07:14, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > Please avoid trying to briefly explain. > > > Please refer me to a good web page. > > > I *KNOW* I'm missing some

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