Quoting Richard Owlett (2019-04-26 14:10:02)
> On 04/26/2019 04:24 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Richard Owlett (2019-04-24 19:36:29)
> >> My base setup was installed by doing
> >> apt-get --no-install-recommends install task-mate-desktop
> >> apt-get install pluma gparted
On 04/26/2019 04:24 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Richard Owlett (2019-04-24 19:36:29)
I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
to having everything handed to you
Quoting Richard Owlett (2019-04-24 19:36:29)
> I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
> 1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
> 2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
> to having everything handed to you on a "golden p
On Thu 25 Apr 2019 at 11:30:56 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote:
> Den 2019-04-25 kl. 07:21, skrev David Wright:
> > The only thing guaranteed by installing the "Depends" is that
> > all the function calls will point at some runnable code rather than
> > just pointing into thin air.
>
> Thin air and
Quoting Erik Josefsson (2019-04-25 11:30:56)
> [Teres debian laptop] https://box.redpill.dk/cli_with_quirks/
Obsolete: Teres-I no longer need custom-built boot-loader for Buster!
More stable to link to the top directory: https://box.redpill.dk/
- Jonas
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On 2019-04-25 10:30, Erik Josefsson wrote:
Den 2019-04-25 kl. 07:21, skrev David Wright:
The only thing guaranteed by installing the "Depends" is that
all the function calls will point at some runnable code rather than
just pointing into thin air.
Thin air and deep waters is where I'm at.
Den 2019-04-25 kl. 07:21, skrev David Wright:
The only thing guaranteed by installing the "Depends" is that
all the function calls will point at some runnable code rather than
just pointing into thin air.
Thin air and deep waters is where I'm at.
I'm trying to set up the "tui" [text-based
On Wed 24 Apr 2019 at 22:07:33 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/24/2019 08:11 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:36:29 -0500
> > Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> > > I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
> > > 1. small size
On 04/24/2019 08:11 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:36:29 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
to having everything
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:36:29 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
> 1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
> 2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
> to having everything handed to you on a &qu
On 04/24/2019 02:31 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 04/24/2019 01:10 PM, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:36:29 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
[snip]
My base setup was installed by doing
apt-get --no-install-recommends install task-mate-desktop
apt-get install pluma gparted synaptic
All
On 04/24/2019 02:41 PM, mick crane wrote:
On 2019-04-24 18:36, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
to having everything handed to you
On 2019-04-24 18:36, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
to having everything handed to you on a "golden platter" {Debian's
default
On Wed 24 Apr 2019 at 12:36:29 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
> 1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
Not at all. There has to be an objective, a goal. For example, a thin
client with only 1Gb of space which is intended to p
On 04/24/2019 01:10 PM, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:36:29 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
to having everything handed to you
On 04/24/2019 12:54 PM, Georgios wrote:
My minimal install include just installing standard system utilities.
I believe I accomplished that.
I build my system after that without the use of --no-install-recommends.
Its better to install recommended packages for full functionality
My minimal install include just installing standard system utilities.
I build my system after that without the use of --no-install-recommends.
Its better to install recommended packages for full functionality of the
installed packages.(Just my opinion)
ps. Im using xfce and i usually pick
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:36:29 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
> 1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
> 2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
> to having everything handed to you on a &qu
I'm attempting a very minimal install because:
1. small size in and of itself is a good goal
2. fending for oneself is a valuable educational experience compared
to having everything handed to you on a "golden platter" {Debian's
default installer}
My current experiments revo
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com):
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com):
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
i'll second the use of openbox. i use it with fbpanel.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote:
On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote:
What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared
to simply starting a ConsoleKit session?
exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com):
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com):
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
i'll second the use of openbox. i use it with fbpanel.
i too believe that gnome just pulls in way too
Quoting August Karlstrom (fusionf...@gmail.com):
On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote:
What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared
to simply starting a ConsoleKit session?
exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 17:53:55 -0700
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes:
Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window
manager is the way to go. That's what I did.
On 2015-04-14 17:10, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote:
What advantages do you see with adding your own udev rule compared
to simply starting a ConsoleKit session?
exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch your-wm
instead of
exec your-wm
None really, except to keep
On 2015-04-14 03:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
The rule mounts and unmounts flash drives -- just plug and unplug -- and
cards (any type using an external card or multi-card reader. The
caveat is: you must plug the card in first, then plug the reader in.
Unmount by unplugging reader with the card
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, August Karlstrom wrote:
On 2015-04-14 03:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
The rule mounts and unmounts flash drives -- just plug and unplug
-- and cards (any type using an external card or multi-card
reader. The caveat is: you must plug the card in first, then plug
the
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk):
On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote:
…
So the most I could do is set up an account just to write This list
entry may mislead you on the page.
…
You could do better
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes:
Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window
manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox.
The same WM that LXDE uses. A little more work, but worth it.
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (j...@debian.org):
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk):
On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote:
…
So the most I could do is set up an account just to write This list
entry may
On Tue 14 Apr 2015 at 15:32:47 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk):
On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote:
…
So the most I could do is set up an account just to write This
David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk writes:
The OP seems to have got something useful out of the thread. I think I'll ask
questions about the wiki page for Bluetooth instead.
I read carefully all the messages of the thread and appreciated and am grateful
to anyone who wrote. I'm still
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes:
Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window
manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The
same WM that LXDE uses. A little more work, but worth it.
Thanks. I'm trying it. In the web browser, I open a
On Tuesday 14 April 2015 20:11:30 Brian wrote:
On Tue 14 Apr 2015 at 15:32:47 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 01:09:46PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk):
On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote:
…
So the
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk):
On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote:
Floris kindly found a possible reference which also seemed to me to be
a likely candidate (the OP hasn't confirmed or otherwise).
I looked at it with a critical eye and found some errors and
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote:
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first
attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.]
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com):
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
i'll second the use of openbox. i use it
On 4/13/2015 4:59 AM, Floris wrote:
and I agree that the sentence You have to install all end-user
applications later is incorrect.
Even Iceweasel is a dependency of gnome-core. I didn't know that
Mozilla is a part of gnome.
Floris
Epiphany is the Gnome web browser, apparently the Gnome
On Mon 13 Apr 2015 at 12:00:52 -0500, David Wright wrote:
Floris kindly found a possible reference which also seemed to me to be
a likely candidate (the OP hasn't confirmed or otherwise).
I looked at it with a critical eye and found some errors and
ambiguities. However, I'm not a Gnome
On 2015-04-13 07:20, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:55:54 -0700 Patrick Bartek
nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window
manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed
Op Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:14:47 +0200 schreef David Wright
deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk:
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first
attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.]
Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com):
According to documentations, gnome-core package is
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:55:54 -0700
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window
manager is the way to go. That's what I did.
Op Mon, 13 Apr 2015 18:33:20 +0200 schreef Steve McIntyre
93...@debian.org:
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Floris wrote:
So the conclusion is that the information on wiki.debian.org/Gnome is
unclear and sometimes incorrect. I've added debian-...@lists.debian.org.
I understood
Quoting Steve McIntyre (93...@debian.org):
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Floris wrote:
So the conclusion is that the information on wiki.debian.org/Gnome is
unclear and sometimes incorrect. I've added debian-...@lists.debian.org.
I understood they are the wiki maintainers.
Not
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Floris wrote:
So the conclusion is that the information on wiki.debian.org/Gnome is
unclear and sometimes incorrect. I've added debian-...@lists.debian.org.
I understood they are the wiki maintainers.
Not in terms of content, no. That's up to the whole
Op Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:28:29 +0200 schreef David Wright
deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk:
Quoting Floris (jkflo...@dds.nl):
Op Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:14:47 +0200 schreef David Wright
deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk:
Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com):
According to documentations, gnome-core
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first
attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.]
Quoting Patrick Bartek (nemomm...@gmail.com):
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
i'll second the use of openbox. i use it with fbpanel.
i too believe that gnome just
Quoting Floris (jkflo...@dds.nl):
Op Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:14:47 +0200 schreef David Wright
deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk:
Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com):
According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to
be the very
minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in
bri...@aracnet.com writes:
the most inconvenient thing about not using gnome is not having
a way to handle USS mass storage devices.
Perhaps pmount or autofs might be of use ?
Alexis.
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environment, even without gnome-core package, seems to work well. So
I ask to myself what gnome minimal install should really be. I have
Sid.
Thanks for any help,
Obviously, you've realized (or soon will) that GNOME's idea of a
minimal install and your's (or mine) are diametrically
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:55:54 -0700
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window
manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The
same WM that LXDE uses. A little
, seems to work well. So I
ask to myself what gnome minimal install should really be. I have Sid.
Thanks for any help,
Rodolfo
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remove gnome-core. I did so, and now gnome desktop
environment, even without gnome-core package, seems to work well. So
I ask to myself what gnome minimal install should really be. I have
Sid.
I think the answer to that depends on how long your piece of string is.
What do you mean by 'gnome
desktop environment, even without gnome-core package, seems to work well. So I
ask to myself what gnome minimal install should really be. I have Sid.
Thanks for any help,
Rodolfo
That wording doesn't really compute in my brain, but I guess you could
take it that if it is the only
package
what gnome minimal install should really be. I have Sid.
gnome-core is a metapackage, so all it does is pull in all the
packages that depend on it. Looking at that list, that seems to give you
a selection of software that covers what one might expect to see in a
desktop environment.
Removing
desktop environment, even without gnome-core package, seems to work well. So I
ask to myself what gnome minimal install should really be. I have Sid.
Gnome loves to pull in Evolution as well. I would think that a choice of
email client would be left to the user. Since I can't have one without
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 07:05:25PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
something like:
boot computer with live cd
go to a terminal
partition the hdd
format the hdd
mount the root hdd partition as /mnt
use 'debootstrap .' to download the packages you want
--- Ottavio Caruso wrote:
[Initially posted on alt.os.linux.debian, no replies.}
I believe that one can trim down a standard debootstrap
installation
(currently 180MB for sarge and over 230 MB for etch) hacking one
of
the related scripts (eg: usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/sarge) and
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 06:22:01AM -0800, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
At least could anybody tell me where to ask this question?
Debian-devel, debian-boot? Debian-administration?
maybe the debian installer list, if such a thing exists (and it
probably does).
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On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 06:22:01AM -0800, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
--- Ottavio Caruso wrote:
[Initially posted on alt.os.linux.debian, no replies.}
I believe that one can trim down a standard debootstrap
installation
(currently 180MB for sarge and over 230 MB for etch) hacking one
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 07:05:25PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
something like:
boot computer with live cd
go to a terminal
partition the hdd
format the hdd
mount the root hdd partition as /mnt
use 'debootstrap .' to download the packages you want
chroot to /mnt
add kernel and grub
use
[Initially posted on alt.os.linux.debian, no replies.}
I believe that one can trim down a standard debootstrap installation
(currently 180MB for sarge and over 230 MB for etch) hacking one of
the related scripts (eg: usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/sarge) and
modifying the 'base' variable, e.g.:
Bonjour,
j'aimerais savoir ce que s'installe comme packages avec debootstrap.
Il me faut le stricte minimum, doit servir de template pour vserver.
Quelqu'un a de l'info la-dessus ?
mess-mate
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On 17:54, Tue 23 Aug 05, mess-mate wrote:
Bonjour,
j'aimerais savoir ce que s'installe comme packages avec debootstrap.
Il me faut le stricte minimum, doit servir de template pour vserver.
Quelqu'un a de l'info la-dessus ?
debootstrap est un script shell, tu pourras regarder et comprendre
I'm trying to do a minimal install of Debian 2.1. I'd like to squeeze it
into 30 MB of disk space or so for use on a 40 MB disk. This system would
need to have only very basic functionality and would be used as a
basic router, so would need the IP stack, PPP and a couple of Ethernet
drivers, etc
On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Mike Patterson wrote:
The problem is that I'm trying to do a debian install in less than 100
megs. Of course this means forgoing things like X, etc... But every time
I go through dselect and choose packages to remove, it refuses to comply!
Instead, it complains about
I came up with an interesting challenge for myself the other day...
Unfortunately, I can't even seem to get past square 1.
I have a spare system sitting aroud doing nothing, so I thought it might be
a good idea to put this guy to work as a fileserver/printserver. So far,
so good, right?
The
Mike == Mike Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike The problem is that I'm trying to do a debian install in
Mike less than 100 megs. Of course this means forgoing things
Mike like X, etc... But every time I go through dselect and
Mike choose packages to remove, it refuses to
On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Mike Patterson wrote:
I came up with an interesting challenge for myself the other day...
Unfortunately, I can't even seem to get past square 1.
I have a spare system sitting aroud doing nothing, so I thought it might be
a good idea to put this guy to work as a
On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Mike Patterson wrote:
The problem is that I'm trying to do a debian install in less than 100
megs. Of course this means forgoing things like X, etc... But every time
I go through dselect and choose packages to remove, it refuses to comply!
Instead, it complains about
SNAP ON
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To: billy.chow
Cc: debian-user
Subject: Re: X11 and LaTeX minimal install
A minimal X (and LaTeX) installation requires several debian packages,
but most people either do not want X or want
Dear debianers,
A minimal X (and LaTeX) installation requires several debian packages,
but most people either do not want X or want at least a minimal
installation, right? So what are the justifications of splitting a
minimal X and LaTeX the way it is?
Thanks.
--
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A minimal X (and LaTeX) installation requires several debian packages,
but most people either do not want X or want at least a minimal
installation, right? So what are the justifications of splitting a
minimal X and LaTeX the way it is?
The developers may have their own reasons for breaking up
If people are pulling the packages over a phone line there is an advantage to
limitting the size of individual packages. That way they can hang up the
phone periodically. Also, if a bug shows up that needs to be fixed they
only have to download the package that is broken.
There is a plan
Different people maintain different packages. One of the main
strengths of debian is that there is an expert who is in control of
a package. A minimal X installation is quite large. It would be very
unfair to expect someone(who donates their time) to be able to
maintain such complex programs as
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