Re: Debian 7 to 8 upgrade changlog displays unstable/experimental packages

2015-11-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Andrew Puschak wrote: > I inherited some Debian servers running 7 wheezy and am upgrading to 8 > jessie. During apt-get upgrade (after setting /etc/apt/sources.list to > jessie) I get a less command displaying changelogs as seen below with > the first package being nagios-nrpe. I also get a list

Re: Debian 7 to 8 upgrade changlog displays unstable/experimental packages

2015-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 04:11:13PM +, Andrew Puschak wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I inherited some Debian servers running 7 wheezy and am upgrading to 8 > jessie. During apt-get upgrade (after setting /etc/apt/sources.list to > jessie) I get a less command displaying changelogs as seen below with

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 03:35:13PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Chris Bannister (cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz): > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 04:03:37PM +, Curt wrote: > > > On 2015-04-19, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > > > > > > > With this many others of us not having any problems on multip

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-21 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > I run my main browser instance with all JavaScript disabled… I wrote: > So do I. Lots of sites put up banners warning me that some "features" > may not operate properly without JS but generally those are exactly the > "features" that I specifically don't want. A few other sites

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-21 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:51:58 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > I run my main browser instance with all JavaScript disabled… > > So do I. Lots of sites put up banners warning me that some "features" > may not operate properly without JS but generally those are exactly the > "feature

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-21 Thread David Wright
Quoting Chris Bannister (cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz): > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 04:03:37PM +, Curt wrote: > > On 2015-04-19, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > > > > > With this many others of us not having any problems on multiple > > > various browsers, I wonder what (other) secondary things might

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-20 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-20, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Don't confuse primary and secondary with counting. Think 'primary = I'm not confused, nor do I require any lessons from you, nor will I bugger this gnat any further. Let's leave it at that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 04:03:37PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-19, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > > > With this many others of us not having any problems on multiple > > various browsers, I wonder what (other) secondary things might be > > 2 is 'many' in your book? Don't confuse primary and sec

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/19/2015 11:46 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: Saw the other responses so chiming in. https://www.capitalone.com/ works for me here, too. Works for me, Firefox with java enabled. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, a

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 19 April 2015 13:06:44 Lisi Reisz wrote:  I want my nose to stay on my face. This was rather excellent. Tres droll. Not in any need of explication. We should not support the current horror of inducing discomfort in others. Learning how to

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-19, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > With this many others of us not having any problems on multiple > various browsers, I wonder what (other) secondary things might be 2 is 'many' in your book? At any rate, I got the site to load in chromium. In iceweasal, even in safe mode (all extensio

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 4/19/15, David Wright wrote: > Quoting John Hasler (jhas...@newsguy.com): >> >> So do I [run browser with javascript disabled]. >> Lots of sites put up banners warning me that some "features" >> may not operate properly without JS but generally those are exactly the >> "features" that I specifi

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-19, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > >> > Lisi. >> >> The page will not load for me with javascript enabled (I use NoScript). >> Iceweasal endlessly spins its wheels 'waiting for login.capital.com...' > > Yes, I have javascript enabled. Me too, but the page in question wouldn't load here. --

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 April 2015 13:06:44 Lisi Reisz wrote: >  I want my nose to stay on my face. After what has been said about comprehensibility. I mean that i do not want to cut off my nose to spite my face. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutting_off_the_nose_to_spite_the_face Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 April 2015 12:49:23 Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-19, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I can't answer the question, but I have just successfully loaded it in > > Chrome, Iceweasel and Konqueror. In Iceweasel it insisted on cookies. > > > > Lisi. > > The page will not load for me with javascript enab

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-19, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I can't answer the question, but I have just successfully loaded it in > Chrome, > Iceweasel and Konqueror. In Iceweasel it insisted on cookies. > > Lisi. > The page will not load for me with javascript enabled (I use NoScript). Iceweasal endlessly spins it

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 19 April 2015 05:44:36 David Wright wrote: > With JS enabled (as it has been for me) and Flash available (at the > moment I have to "Allow Now" on each page) there are odd sites that > still will not work, eg https://www.capitalone.com/ where, if I > try to login, it just says > "The conn

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-18 Thread David Wright
Quoting John Hasler (jhas...@newsguy.com): > Celejar writes: > > I run my main browser instance with all JavaScript disabled… > > So do I. Lots of sites put up banners warning me that some "features" > may not operate properly without JS but generally those are exactly the > "features" that I spe

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-18 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > I run my main browser instance with all JavaScript disabled… So do I. Lots of sites put up banners warning me that some "features" may not operate properly without JS but generally those are exactly the "features" that I specifically don't want. A few other sites really won't w

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-18 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:38:43 + (UTC) Liam O'Toole wrote: ... > So do you normally run browsers on squeeze with javascript /dis/abled? I'm > surprised that any modern web sites work at all. I run my main browser instance with all JavaScript disabled, and many / most of the sites I use run pe

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-18 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 15:01:55 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 18/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On 2015-04-17, David Wright wrote: > >> Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > >>> The computers upon which I run Debian 6, have only 16 GB of RAM, > >>> and, > >> > >> Lucky you. 2GB here. > >>

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-18 Thread Bret Busby
On 18/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2015-04-17, David Wright wrote: >> Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >>> The computers upon which I run Debian 6, have only 16 GB of RAM, and, >> >> Lucky you. 2GB here. >> >>> expecially with Debian 6 not having adequate memory management (as >>>

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-17, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> The computers upon which I run Debian 6, have only 16 GB of RAM, and, > > Lucky you. 2GB here. > >> expecially with Debian 6 not having adequate memory management (as >> previously mentioned, memory swapping does no

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > The computers upon which I run Debian 6, have only 16 GB of RAM, and, Lucky you. 2GB here. > expecially with Debian 6 not having adequate memory management (as > previously mentioned, memory swapping does not work effectively), so, Eh? Squeeze ran qui

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 22:43:08 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > On > > http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064 > > > > you will find several packages. Among these are > > fglrx-core_14.501-0ubuntu1_amd64_UB_14.01.deb > > > > that you mentio

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > Liam's point appeared to be that if anyone (me) is stupid enough to be > still using "squeeze", then they (me) can't expect anything to work in > it. That's right. I put it more diplomatically. But you set yourself up for it by saying you were using sq

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2015-04-17, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: >>> On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >>> >>> >>> > Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility > Product Family your 60

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:16:41 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 17/04/2015, David Wright wrote: >> > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> >> In going to the Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit option, as such packages are >> >> usually .deb packages, and so, tend to

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-17, Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >> >> >> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility Product Family your 6000 series is listed. http://support.amd.c

Ubuntu is not Debian [was: Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors]

2015-04-17 Thread Alexis
Petter Adsen writes: But. These packages are for *Ubuntu*. Ubuntu is not Debian. Yes, they both use .deb packages, but that does not mean that the Ubuntu packages will work well (or at all) on Debian. Since joining this list, i have been quite startled by how many questions get asked here

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-17, Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, David Wright wrote: >> Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >>> On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: >>> > On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> Have you tried "catalyst" for the

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-17, Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > > >> Any browser you run in squeeze was EOL'ed years ago, from a security >> perspective if nothing else. >> > > > So, are you claiming that the LTS of Debian 6 LTS, is imaginary, and > does not exist? I am not. I am telli

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:16:41 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > >> In going to the Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit option, as such packages are > >> usually .deb packages, and so, tend to work on Debian (which is > >> how I got Seamo

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> > On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >>> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility >> >>> Produc

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility > >>> Product Family your 6000 series is listed. > >>> htt

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:07:54 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility > >>> Product Family your 6000 series is liste

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: > > > >>> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility >>> Product Family your 6000 series is listed. >>> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LI

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > Any browser you run in squeeze was EOL'ed years ago, from a security > perspective if nothing else. > So, are you claiming that the LTS of Debian 6 LTS, is imaginary, and does not exist? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/16/2015 06:07 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility Product Family your 6000 series is listed. http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LINRelease

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility >> Product Family your 6000 series is listed. >> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LINReleaseNotes.aspx >> > > Hello. > > I assume

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/16/2015 11:40 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 16/04/2015, David Wright wrote: >>> Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >>> bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ lspci | grep -i vga 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/16/2015 11:40 AM, Bret Busby wrote: On 16/04/2015, David Wright wrote: Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ lspci | grep -i vga 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics] I t

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > On 16/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > > >> bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ lspci | grep -i vga > >> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. > >> [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 wi

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > >> bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ lspci | grep -i vga >> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. >> [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics] > > I think you should concentrate on t

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ lspci | grep -i vga > 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. > [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics] I think you should concentrate on the string in brackets, which appears on http

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:21:46 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 16/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800 >> > Bret Busby wrote: >> > >> >> On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > In the Debian

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:21:46 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 16/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800 > > Bret Busby wrote: > > > >> On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for > >> > Syste

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> > In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for >> > System -> Settings -> Details -> Overview, it has >> > >> > " >> > Processor: Intel

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:11:03 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > and, on this computer, as mentioned in a previous message, neither > Debian 7, nor Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, can get the external monitor going, as > neother seem to have an appropriate driver for the > AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics × 4

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > > On the Acer E5-521-238Q, which does not have Ubuntu installed, I have, > for Debian 7, > > " > root@debian-Acer-E5-521:/# grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' > /var/log/Xorg.0.log > [25.144] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [25.14

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > > > > > > > > In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for > > System -> Settings -> Details -> Overview, it has > > > > " > > Processor: Intel Core i&-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz x 8 > > Graphics: Ga

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > > In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for > System -> Settings -> Details -> Overview, it has > > " > Processor: Intel Core i&-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz x 8 > Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209) > " > > and, for > > System -> Settings -> D

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-15 Thread Petter Adsen
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:35:12 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772:~$ grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' > /var/log/Xorg.0.log > [26.440] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > [26.440] compiled for 1.15.1, module version = 2.99.910 > [26.440] Module clas

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 14/04/2015, Curt wrote: >>> On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby wrote: so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. >>> >>> The best thing would be to l

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/04/2015, Curt wrote: >> On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >>> so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and >>> not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. >> >> The best thing would be to look at the log file for X (on Squeeze LTS >

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/04/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and >> not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. > > The best thing would be to look at the log file for X (on Squeeze LTS > that is to be found at the following loca

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-14, Bret Busby wrote: > > so it apparently, is driving the inboard Intel graphics adaptor, and > not the nVIDIA GT750m graphics adaptor. The best thing would be to look at the log file for X (on Squeeze LTS that is to be found at the following location: '/var/log/Xorg.0.log') in order

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 13/04/2015, Curt wrote: >> On 2015-04-09, Bret Busby wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an >>> AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. >>> >>> The external monitor works w

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Bret Busby wrote: both were running Debian 7, as the last operating system, before the hardware crashes. Aha! There it is at last! The Smoking Gun! Grassy Knoll, anyone? nb. http://www.google.com/search?q=grassy%20knoll -- These are not the droids you are looking for.

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-09, Bret Busby wrote: >> Hello. >> >> On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an >> AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. >> >> The external monitor works with MS Win 7, with MS Win 8, with Debian >>

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-13 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-09, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an > AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. > > The external monitor works with MS Win 7, with MS Win 8, with Debian > 6, and with Ununtu 12.04 and with Ub

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 09/04/2015, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> Bret Busby writes: >> > 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI >> > Device 9852 >> >> Type xrandr. You should have one entry for each possible connector. >> > > > " > # xrandr > xrandr:

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 09 April 2015 10:22:23 Bret Busby wrote: >> Does Debian 7 work with external monitors? > > Yes. Though I have found that the external monitor needs to be there, and > on, > before I boot up, in order for it to be seen. (Acer Aspire One) > > Lisi >

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 10 April 2015 05:38:27 Bret Busby wrote: >> On my Debian 6 desktop >> computer, from the menu's, is >> System -> Preferences -> Monitors >> which has the option "Detect monitors". > > This is a matter of desktop environment choice, not distro version ch

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 09-04-15 om 12:02 schreef Bret Busby: > 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI > Device 9852 I don't know this device. When it's a relative new device, and does not work well, I would try a newer Linux kernel from backports. Something like this: https://package

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Bret Busby writes: > 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI > Device 9852 Type xrandr. You should have one entry for each possible connector. I.E. saint@quigley:~ 12:22:39 [9] $xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2390 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 LVDS1 con

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/04/2015, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Op 09-04-15 om 11:22 schreef Bret Busby: >> Hello. >> >> On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an >> AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. >> >> The external monitor works with MS Win 7, with MS W

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-09 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 09-04-15 om 11:22 schreef Bret Busby: > Hello. > > On a new installation of Debian 7 on an Acer "laptop" computer with an > AMD Radeon R2 graphics adaptor, the external monitor does not work. > > The external monitor works with MS Win 7, with MS Win 8, with Debian > 6, and with Ununtu 12.04 an

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-04 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Bret Busby a écrit : > > It would be on a UEFI/GPT system, so the primary partitions are redundant. > > With Linux, I generally have a / partition, a /swap partition, a /home > partition, and data partitions, with the swap partition being shared > between the Linux installations; as they are not

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Andrew M.A. Cater (amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk): >> On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader >> > such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debi

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread David Wright
Quoting Andrew M.A. Cater (amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk): > On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader > > such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debian, to be > > installed on a system, and,

Re: Debian 7 and Debian 8 and bootloader

2015-04-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 01:51:15AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > Do Debian 7 and Debian 8 (when it is to be released), and a bootloader > such as GRUB, allow yet, for more than one version of Debian, to be > installed on a system, and, to be selectable options for the > bootloader? > > --

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-13 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-03-12 12:34:06 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > xscreensaver is not safe: > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403557 > > > > (concerning the "when the system has no external input for a > > defined period of time"). > > I read through that bug

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/03/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> On 13/03/2015, David Wright wrote: >> > Quoting Gajadur Dwijesh (dwije...@gmail.com): >> >> Hi. >> >> I got the same problem.. >> >> I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 >> >> and it wo

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > On 13/03/2015, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Gajadur Dwijesh (dwije...@gmail.com): > >> Hi. > >> I got the same problem.. > >> I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 > >> and it worked..i could dual boot windows 8.1 with Deb

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/03/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Gajadur Dwijesh (dwije...@gmail.com): >> Hi. >> I got the same problem.. >> I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 >> and it worked..i could dual boot windows 8.1 with Debian on UEFI mode > > Interesting. I played this through

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gajadur Dwijesh (dwije...@gmail.com): > Hi. > I got the same problem.. > I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0  > and it worked..i could dual boot windows 8.1 with Debian on UEFI mode  Interesting. I played this through and at 506 seconds, I saw my first EFI scr

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > I note that, after visiting the web page at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface > to which I have been referred, in another message posted in this > thread, I found > "while Insyde Software offers InsydeH2O, its own impl

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Curt a écrit : > On 2015-03-11, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >>> or, otherwise, interface with >>> the UEFI/GPT system, so that the bootloader, GRUB 2, can find the MS >>> Win8 installation within the UEFI system? >> Probably not. At least not the Windows boot manager, which expects to be >> loaded from

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Mar 2015 at 03:10:58 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Does Debian Linux 7 support UEFI "Secure boot"? The relevant threads are somewhat fragmented but a search with "Plan of action for Secure Boot support" gives you all you want and more. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/03/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > Okay. > > In thinking about this further, I remembered that, due to the > malicious nature of MS Win8, it is installed with the nasty > UEFI->Secure Boot mode, which maliciously disables the installation of > any additional operating systems. > > And, I remember

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/03/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> The Setup Utility displays, in the Title Bar, "InsydeH20 Setup >> Utility Rev. 3.7". >> >> The solution, at this stage, appears to be to use the Setup, to >> change between UEFI and Legacy BIOS boot modes, thence

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > xscreensaver is not safe: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403557 > > (concerning the "when the system has no external input for a > defined period of time"). I read through that bug log and I don't see why you say it is not safe as a general state

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Gajadur Dwijesh
Hi. I got the same problem.. I followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlOd-a2wG0 and it worked..i could dual boot windows 8.1 with Debian on UEFI mode On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:21 PM, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > The Setup Utility displays,

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > The Setup Utility displays, in the Title Bar, "InsydeH20 Setup > Utility Rev. 3.7". > > The solution, at this stage, appears to be to use the Setup, to > change between UEFI and Legacy BIOS boot modes, thence to select which > operating system, I want

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-12, Bret Busby wrote: > > I can "dual boot", within the Legacy BIOS system; I can select either > Debian Linux 7, or, Ubuntu Linux 14.04, into which, to boot, from the > Legacy BIOS GRUB menu. Well, I meant boot the Windows 8. I should've said triple boot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 12 March 2015 14:04:30 Bret Busby wrote: > On 12/03/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 12 March 2015 09:33:28 Bret Busby wrote: > >> On my Debian 7.8 system, both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver, are > >> shown as being installed, and, now, to try to get a screensaver to > >> w

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/03/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-03-11, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> >>> or, otherwise, interface with >>> the UEFI/GPT system, so that the bootloader, GRUB 2, can find the MS >>> Win8 installation within the UEFI system? >> >> Probably not. At least not the Windows boot manager, which expects t

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/03/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 12 March 2015 09:33:28 Bret Busby wrote: >> On my Debian 7.8 system, both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver, are >> shown as being installed, and, now, to try to get a screensaver to >> work, I have downloaded hundreds of MB of extra stuff, to try to

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-03-12 10:44:20 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > On 03/12/2015 10:33 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > > Does Debian 7 allow screensavers, that lock a screen, and require > > logging in, either when the system has no external input for a defined > > period of time, or, when a person manually invokes the "Loc

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 12 March 2015 09:33:28 Bret Busby wrote: > On my Debian 7.8 system, both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver, are > shown as being installed, and, now, to try to get a screensaver to > work, I have downloaded hundreds of MB of extra stuff, to try to find > a screensaver that works on Deb

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:44:20 +0100 Linux-Fan wrote: > On 03/12/2015 10:33 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > > Hello. > > > > On my Debian 7.8 system, both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver, > > are shown as being installed, and, now, to try to get a screensaver > > to work, I have downloaded hundreds of

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-11, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> or, otherwise, interface with >> the UEFI/GPT system, so that the bootloader, GRUB 2, can find the MS >> Win8 installation within the UEFI system? > > Probably not. At least not the Windows boot manager, which expects to be > loaded from UEFI. > So he ca

Re: Debian 7 and screensavers

2015-03-12 Thread Linux-Fan
On 03/12/2015 10:33 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > On my Debian 7.8 system, both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver, are > shown as being installed, and, now, to try to get a screensaver to > work, I have downloaded hundreds of MB of extra stuff, to try to find > a screensaver that works on De

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 11/03/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > >> I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were >> done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT >> installations, so I now have a system that (after repairing the nasty >> PC-BSD

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 03:00:56PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Okay. > > In thinking about this further, I remembered that, due to the > malicious nature of MS Win8, it is installed with the nasty > UEFI->Secure Boot mode, which maliciously disables the installation of > any additional operating sy

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 12:40:06 PM UTC+5:30, Bret Busby wrote: > Okay. > > In thinking about this further, I remembered that, due to the > malicious nature of MS Win8, it is installed with the nasty > UEFI->Secure Boot mode, which maliciously disables the installation of > any additional o

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:46:55 David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were > > done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT > > installations, so I now have a system that (after repairin

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-12 Thread Bret Busby
Okay. In thinking about this further, I remembered that, due to the malicious nature of MS Win8, it is installed with the nasty UEFI->Secure Boot mode, which maliciously disables the installation of any additional operating systems. And, I remember that the only way to amend that, to enable addit

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 11 March 2015 23:53:37 David Wright wrote: > A Debian version gets a codename long before it gets a number, even > before it exists (like buster), and that name never changes. It only > gets a number when it's released; in fact, it gets several: wheezy has > nine so far. Thanks, David

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