Erik Steffl wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might be usefull.
why? you can create filesystems and mount/unmount disks (partitions)
without rebooting...
When you are using reiserfs you have to :(
Mariusz Zielinski wrote:
Erik Steffl wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might be usefull.
why? you can create filesystems and mount/unmount disks (partitions)
without rebooting...
When you are using reiserfs you have
on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 08:27:55AM -0800, Nate Amsden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
SamBozo Debian User wrote:
Hello to the group,
Recently there were comments made as to the foolishness of
rebooting just to reset an edited config file. How about a list of
the cli entrys
try
William Leese wrote:
On Monday 19 February 2001 16:45, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
urgh, however.. i still have to use Windows for Dreamweaver, any
suggestions anyone?
it needs to be a WYSIWYG-editor (till i finally cleanup the generated
code) that handles nested tables well.. and yes
William Leese wrote:
On Monday 19 February 2001 16:45, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
Actually, I don't understand the part about if i had a server.
If
you've got a Linux box, you can run Apache and any one of several DB's
on it, and test out your pages locally.
replace that with if i had
From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, William Leese wrote:
mmm, i'll give it a try. Just hope someone will come along with a good
WYSIWYS-editor for linux (GPL-ed.. ofcourse, unlike Bluefish) some time.
Give Amaya a tryout, done by the w3 folks.
Amaya's really good... it's got
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Richard Taylor wrote:
Nothing in opensource is going to be close to DreamWeaver of course -yet
anyways.
That depends on whether you hand write your code or let a
wysiwyg editor approximate it for you.
Most pros will tell you that the only proper code is hand
From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Richard Taylor wrote:
Nothing in opensource is going to be close to DreamWeaver of course -yet
anyways.
That depends on whether you hand write your code or let a
wysiwyg editor approximate it for you.
Most pros will tell you that the
William Leese wrote:
heh, noted.. using a seagate HD here.. only a few months old, had one prob
with it.. which had something to do with the powersaving feature i'm
guessing. can't see any reason to reboot linux at all, with exception as
someone already said installing a new kernel.. but
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know you only might want to reboot if you change the hostname and
there's no need to reboot in this case.
want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might be usefull.
why? you can create filesystems and mount/unmount disks (partitions)
On Monday 19 February 2001 16:45, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
urgh, however.. i still have to use Windows for Dreamweaver, any
suggestions anyone?
it needs to be a WYSIWYG-editor (till i finally cleanup the generated
code) that handles nested tables well.. and yes i know they shouldnt be
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, William Leese wrote:
snip
mmm, i'll give it a try. Just hope someone will come along with a good
WYSIWYS-editor for linux (GPL-ed.. ofcourse, unlike Bluefish) some time.
Give Amaya a tryout, done by the w3 folks.
Nothing in opensource is going to be close to DreamWeaver
I agree with Carel. As long as X read from /dev/gpmdata (most sane
configuration but too many people disregards...), reboot is not
needed for KB/mouse initialization.
I just unplugged my mouse while in X4, replug -- cant move,
restrted gpm to initialize, there I go again.
By the way, when you
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 06:19:29PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might be usefull.
Linux Fdisk resyncs the disks almost immediately. DOS fdisk requires a
reboot to do this. Did you reboot after
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:41:04 +0100, William Leese writes:
..okay, so we have maxtor, seagate, conner (same company as seagate maybe,
but they still sell HDs under their name) and i think i've heard something
about samsung.. so, which HD manufacturer makes reliable HDs, anyone? IBM
maybe?
I use
For my (little home) servers, I always try a reboot after I installed
something regarding to the things it serves. If something goes wrong
(power failure, accicent, etc) I know that the vital parts work directly
100% after reboot.
As for my client/workstation system, I have to reboot when I need
John Galt wrote:
--- snip ---
Linux Fdisk resyncs the disks almost immediately. DOS fdisk requires a
reboot to do this. Did you reboot after running fdisk when installing
Debian?
I definitely have to reboot installing my alphas. I don't know if I had
to reboot the machine with the
Osamu Aoki wrote:
I agree with Carel. As long as X read from /dev/gpmdata (most sane
configuration but too many people disregards...), reboot is not
needed for KB/mouse initialization.
I just unplugged my mouse while in X4, replug -- cant move,
restrted gpm to initialize, there I go
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 07:19:28AM -0800, Cam Ellison wrote:
Osamu Aoki wrote:
...
By the way, when you have buggy multi-PC KB switcher, and
KB goes crazy, restarting gpm also intialize KB nicely.
OK, I'll offer a test. I do have a keyboard I want to try, and I don't
want to go through
I have crashed my share of drives too. What I learned is that I get the
very best luck out of Western Digital. Of all the WD drives, I only killed
one - and that was purely my fault - 1500Watts of RF without benefit of
an RF ground = bad/evil/smoke producing things to computers :) Yet WD
Hi Cam,
That really sounds like it could be fun! Just thinking here, how to pull
off that ... How about using an 'at'command. give yourself 2 minutes to
change the kb, at will restart gpm then do it again 2 minutes later so
you can see if new stuff works, and if it doesn't gives you time to
if it comes to it you can always go to runlevel 1 (init 1), when it
prompts for
the root password hit CTRL-D to come back to runlevel 2. that will
effectivly
restart all programs on the system except (i think) init, and of course
the
kernel.
restarting programs really depends on the
Hello to the group,
Recently there were comments made as to the foolishness of rebooting
just to reset an edited config file. How about a list of the cli entrys
that would have accomplished this? Are there different ones for
different config files? SHUP something? blabla
SamBozo Debian User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Recently there were comments made as to the foolishness of rebooting
just to reset an edited config file. How about a list of the cli entrys
that would have accomplished this? Are there different ones for
different config files? SHUP something?
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Colin Watson wrote:
SamBozo Debian User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Recently there were comments made as to the foolishness of rebooting
just to reset an edited config file. How about a list of the cli entrys
that would have accomplished this? Are there different ones
] on 16.02.2001 15:37:06
An: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org
Kopie: (Blindkopie: Martin Tanzer/dvs/DE)
Blindkopie:Martin Tanzer/dvs/DE
Thema: Rebooting is foolish
Hello to the group,
Recently there were comments made as to the foolishness of rebooting
just to reset
SamBozo Debian User wrote:
Hello to the group,
Recently there were comments made as to the foolishness of rebooting
just to reset an edited config file. How about a list of the cli entrys
try avoid rebooting whenever possible. i had a bad experience with
rebooting
not too long ago. a
try avoid rebooting whenever possible. i had a bad
experience with rebooting not too long ago. a sun
ultra 10..up for about 130 days..shut it down to move
a UPS, it never came back up. spent the next 15-20
hours rebuilding it.
Similar experience here at work with a Sun Sparc we had... moved
On Friday 16 February 2001 17:27, Nate Amsden wrote:
try avoid rebooting whenever possible. i had a bad experience with
rebooting
not too long ago. a sun ultra 10..up for about 130 days..shut it down to
move a UPS, it never came back up. spent the next 15-20 hours rebuilding
it.
fucking
Nate Amsden wrote:
try avoid rebooting whenever possible. i had a bad experience with
rebooting
not too long ago. a sun ultra 10..up for about 130 days..shut it down to
move a UPS, it never came back up. spent the next 15-20 hours rebuilding
it.
nate
I Have had a simular experience
William Leese wrote:
heh, noted.. using a seagate HD here.. only a few months old, had one prob
with it.. which had something to do with the powersaving feature i'm
guessing. can't see any reason to reboot linux at all, with exception as
someone already said installing a new kernel.. but
SamBozo Debian User wrote:
I KNOW THIS is NOT the proper way to do things with Linux ...
but how else do you know?
Please tell me?
I'll change my evil ways...
if it comes to it you can always go to runlevel 1 (init 1), when it
prompts for
the root password hit CTRL-D to come back to runlevel
back in 1995(last time that i used seagate) i had 2 conner 420MB drives
and 1 seagate 540 (and now they are the same company *shudder*) fail
within
3 months of using them because of the powersaving auto spindown. ever
since
i have not used that feature unless its on a laptop. and i've only
William Leese wrote:
..okay, so we have maxtor, seagate, conner (same company as seagate maybe,
but they still sell HDs under their name) and i think i've heard something
about samsung.. so, which HD manufacturer makes reliable HDs, anyone? IBM
maybe?
IBM is all i use now.. i'd buy a maxtor
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know you only might want to reboot if you change the
hostname and want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might
be usefull.
You don't need to reboot to change the hostname, either. The command is
'hostname'.
You need to
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, William Leese wrote:
..okay, so we have maxtor, seagate, conner (same company as seagate
maybe, but they still sell HDs under their name) and i think i've
heard something about samsung.. so, which HD manufacturer makes
reliable HDs, anyone? IBM maybe?
IBM drives are
To quote William T Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# You don't need to reboot to change the hostname, either. The command
is
# 'hostname'.
#
# You need to reboot to change the partition table of a disk with
mounted
# filesystems, and you need to reboot to
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:06:03PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote:
...
You also need to re-boot for some hardware re-initialization. See the
recent thread on XFree 4.0.2 and an IntelliMouse-compatible mouse.
I doubt it. Any trouble I've had with PS2 mouses not being properly
initialized could
To quote Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:06:03PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote:
# ...
# You also need to re-boot for some hardware re-initialization. See
the
# recent thread on XFree 4.0.2 and an IntelliMouse-compatible mouse.
#
# I doubt it. Any trouble I've
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:30:11PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote:
To quote Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:06:03PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote:
# ...
# You also need to re-boot for some hardware re-initialization. See
the
# recent thread on XFree 4.0.2 and
Everything in /etc/init.d is a shell script that can be used to restart a
daemon. Usage: /etc/init.d/foo restart. If there's not a init.d
script, ps aux|grep foo to get the PID, then kill -HUP PID. That's
just about it: if it doesn't fit into one of these two categories, it's
not important to
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know you only might want to reboot if you change the hostname and
/etc/init.d/networking restart
want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might be usefull.
Linux Fdisk resyncs the disks almost immediately. DOS fdisk
Hi, Martin!
On Friday 16 February 2001 15:54, Martin_Tanzer@dvs-berlin.de wrote:
As far as I know you only might want to reboot if you change the
hostname and want it active.
The Linuxcommunity is proud of their uptimes, so we never reboot...
martin
And not even that is necessary,
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 06:19:29PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might be usefull.
Linux Fdisk resyncs the disks almost immediately. DOS fdisk requires a
reboot to do this. Did you reboot after running fdisk when installing
Debian?
fdisk can
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