Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-24 Thread lele lala
El día 24/03/07, Juan Carlos Fuentes M. escribió: sera... 1. dejar de prestale atencion 2. Cambiar las reglas ¿cambiar la regla de tu culo? vaya... alguno confesó en público: http://juanca.wiki.mailxmail.com/PaginaInicial http://contactos.chueca.com/mechupoelculo Bueno, si quieres te llamo

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-22 Thread Bayrouni
Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez a écrit : Hola *, On 3/21/07, Emilio Andr�(c)s Ibáñez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Creo que ya es suficiente de todo esto del top-posting, ya el hilo no est� aportando nada desde hace rato. Entiendo el desacuerdo de muchos, de hecho yo no estoy de acuerdo con

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-22 Thread Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez
On 3/22/07, Bayrouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo an~adiria (una regla tan importante que la del top posting: En muchas ocasiones se deberia tambien borrar las partes del post a las que no respondamos (damos una respuesta). Per eso es solamente una utopia supongo yo. No es una utopía

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-22 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
entrando en un oscurantismo ... que vendrá después el pastafarirmo... Y como un llamado a la libre expresión y siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... No me nombres a Stallman en vano... Tu... bonito... haz lo que te salga de los cojones

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Horacio Castellini
La inquisición española ha vuelto... óooo como nos afectará a los que vivimos en sus excolonias...? Ummmh debian está entrando en un oscurantismo ... que vendrá después el pastafarirmo... Y como un llamado a la libre expresión y siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread ChEnChO
siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... -1 Troll -- ... may the source be with you...

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo
la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... Escribe a las listas de correo de GNU o a las que esté subscrito Stallman diciendo está misma gilipollez, que el top-posting es una llamada a la libre expresión... acabaramos, mira su definición en la wikipedia, por favor

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Juan Carlos Fuentes M.
pastafarirmo... Y como un llamado a la libre expresión y siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... Escribe a las listas de correo de GNU o a las que esté subscrito Stallman diciendo está misma gilipollez, que el top-posting es una llamada a la libre expresión

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
y siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... Mira que lindo, el señorito se caga en las normas de la lista y lo dice orgullosamente, tipica conducta de IDIOTA El 16/03/07, Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Buenas, Hay que hacer algo

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Claude Micouin
desatado algún flamewar (saludos a Cristian Michel). Además apenas tengo tiempo de leer la lista. Es verdad que es cada vez más pesado ver el spam y el HTML y el top-posting. Posibles soluciones: 1) No responder a mensajes que no cumplan las normas O sólo con un mensaje para (volver a ) informar

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Claude Micouin
Le mercredi 21 mars 2007 15:06, Horacio Castellini a écrit : Y como un llamado a la libre expresión y siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... Bonsoir, tu as bien raison. Et d'ailleurs, je ne vois pas non plus pourquoi je devrais écrire uniquement en

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Claude Micouin
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Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... ¿Comparas tu ridícula y patética rebeldía con la de Stallman? serás niñato... -- Iñaki Baz Castillo

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Marcos Delgado
El 21/03/07, Claude Micouin [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Le mercredi 21 mars 2007 15:06, Horacio Castellini a écrit : Y como un llamado a la libre expresión y siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... Bonsoir, tu as bien raison. Et d'ailleurs, je ne vois

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Emilio Andrés Ibáñez
llamado a la libre expresión y siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... No me nombres a Stallman en vano... Tu... bonito... haz lo que te salga de los cojones en tu puta casa... pero aquí... en esta lista respetas las p.. normas.. que pa eso están

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-21 Thread Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez
en un oscurantismo ... que vendrá después el pastafarirmo... Y como un llamado a la libre expresión y siguiendo la filosofía rebelde de Stallman les contesto haciendo top-posting... No me nombres a Stallman en vano... Tu... bonito... haz lo que te salga de los cojones en tu puta casa... pero

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-20 Thread Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo
El lun, 19-03-2007 a las 22:35 +0100, Iñaki Baz Castillo escribió: El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, Rubén C. Díaz Alonso 'outime' escribió: Por mí me parecen adecuadas las medidas, aunque el punto uno y dos se contradicen: 1) No responder a mensajes que no cumplan las normas 2) Responder

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread ChEnChO
El 19/03/07, Iñaki Baz Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, Marcelo Guzman escribió: Sorry, Pero no es mejor educar que reprimir? Vale, entonces por favor no escribas en HTML ;) -- Iñaki Baz Castillo Juro por mis ojos que tengo quitado el texto

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 19/03/07 08:31, ChEnChO escribió: Juro por mis ojos que tengo quitado el texto enriquecido en gmail :( Mirad el link y si veis html comentadlo y buscaré solución... http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6872/maillc6.png Gracias y lamento

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread Rubén C. Díaz Alonso 'outime'
? No creo que sea muy difícil usando GMail no hacer top-posting, porque yo lo hago y estoy suscrito a muchas listas y no me cuesta nada mover el cursor hacia abajo; cuando lo haces un par de veces ya te has acostumbrado, no sé a qué viene tanta queja de la gente que 'no puedo, no puedo'. En cuanto

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread Emilio Andrés Ibáñez
Sorry, Pero no es mejor educar que reprimir?. Yo soy nuevo en la lista, estoy en otras listas linux. Pienso que todos queremos aprender. Algunos de mala forma, se sabe, pero al fin y al cabo el fin es el mismo. Prefiero enviar un correo a alguien indicándole las reglas que dejarlo solo en el

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread Carlos Zuniga
y lista negra, para las cuentas de correo que incumplan las normas 3 veces seguidas? También apoyo esta opción, pero creo que en esas 3 veces seguidas se le debe haber dicho a la persona que no haga el top-posting, o sea si son 3 veces cuando se le haya dicho las normas. En fin usuarios de

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread boube
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 10:17:45AM -0500, Carlos Zuniga wrote: On 3/16/07, Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buenas, Hay que hacer algo... Yo ya paso de estar respondiendo a cada mensaje que no cumple las normas de la lista, porque se duplica el tráfico, es igual de molesto

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
molesto el mirar 10 correos y desechar 6 porque están en HTML o haciendo Top-Posting. No deberían llegar, sin más, no hay porqué tolerarlo sin hacer nada ni rechistar. 2) Responder TODOS al buzón personal de la persona en

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, ChEnChO escribió: El 19/03/07, Iñaki Baz Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, Marcelo Guzman escribió: Sorry, Pero no es mejor educar que reprimir? Vale, entonces por favor no escribas en HTML ;) -- Iñaki Baz

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
enlace a http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista; Qué hago, ¿le respondo? ¿le mando el enlace de las normas? Supongo que se refiere a: - No responder A LA LISTA a los mensajes en HTML. - Responder al privado con las normas. No creo que sea muy difícil usando GMail no hacer top-posting, porque yo

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread ChEnChO
El 19/03/07, Iñaki Baz Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, ChEnChO escribió: El 19/03/07, Iñaki Baz Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, Marcelo Guzman escribió: Sorry, Pero no es mejor educar que reprimir? Vale,

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-19 Thread Emilio Andrés Ibáñez
ChEnChO escribió: El 19/03/07, Iñaki Baz Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, ChEnChO escribió: El 19/03/07, Iñaki Baz Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, Marcelo Guzman escribió: Sorry, Pero no es mejor educar que

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-18 Thread Alejandro Garrido Mota
parece una cantidad correcta para que una persona medite y se de cuenta del error y la molestia que está causando En fin usuarios de gmail, tener un poco de consideración, yo uso gmail en otras listas de correo y puedo perfectamente escribir en texto plano, sin hacer top-posting y recortando los

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-18 Thread Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo
El dom, 18-03-2007 a las 03:34 -0400, Alejandro Garrido Mota escribió: 6) ¿Des-subscripción y lista negra, para las cuentas de correo que incumplan las normas 3 veces seguidas? 100 % de acuerdo, 3 veces seguidas me parece una cantidad correcta para que una persona medite y se de cuenta

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-18 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
unas mínimas normas allá donde acuden a pedir ayuda. Posibles soluciones: 1) No responder a mensajes que no cumplan las normas Ignorarlos no soluciona el problema, a mí me sigue siendo molesto el mirar 10 correos y desechar 6 porque están en HTML o haciendo Top-Posting. No deberían llegar

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-18 Thread Marcelo Guzman
porque están en HTML o haciendo Top-Posting. No deberían llegar, sin más, no hay porqué tolerarlo sin hacer nada ni rechistar. 2) Responder TODOS al buzón personal de la persona en cuestión, con un mensaje con un enlace a http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista Podría ayudar. 3) ¿programar un robot

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-18 Thread ChEnChO
Sorry, Pero no es mejor educar que reprimir?. Yo soy nuevo en la lista, estoy en otras listas linux. Pienso que todos queremos aprender. Algunos de mala forma, se sabe, pero al fin y al cabo el fin es el mismo. Prefiero enviar un correo a alguien indicándole las reglas que dejarlo solo en el

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-18 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Lunes, 19 de Marzo de 2007, Marcelo Guzman escribió: Sorry, Pero no es mejor educar que reprimir? Vale, entonces por favor no escribas en HTML ;) -- Iñaki Baz Castillo

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-17 Thread Felix Perez
este discurso, contestas haciendo top-posting... ? ¿cual? -- Christophe T -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista

gmail y top-posting

2007-03-16 Thread Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo
, yo uso gmail en otras listas de correo y puedo perfectamente escribir en texto plano, sin hacer top-posting y recortando los caracteres. Un saludo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-16 Thread basaburu
El Viernes, 16 de Marzo de 2007, Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo escribió: Buenas, Hay que hacer algo... Yo ya paso de estar respondiendo a cada mensaje que no cumple las normas de la lista, porque se duplica el tráfico, es igual de molesto para los demás e incluso a veces se ha desatado algún

Re: gmail y top-posting

2007-03-16 Thread Christophe T
) ¿Des-subscripción y lista negra, para las cuentas de correo que incumplan las normas 3 veces seguidas? Me gusta... pero haber como se implementa ?? Lo que me asombra a mi es que tu, teniendo este discurso, contestas haciendo top-posting... -- Christophe T

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Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-28 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:28:24 -0500 Steve C. Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Define most. In all of the email clients I have ever chosen to use not a single one exhibits the behavior you describe. Pine, elm, mutt, PMMail/2, PMMail2000, TheBat, Sylpheed-Claws, Thunderbird just to name most.

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-28 Thread Miles Bader
Kamaraju Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow! Nice explanation. I have always liked white on black xterms and never was able to explain why so. Glad to hear that there is a logical reason behind all this Yeah, it will be nice in the future when we have better display technologies -- I

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:27:07PM -0500, Steve C. Lamb wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 08:57:07PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Personally, I feel this hardcoding of colors in the application is a downside of X. One of the few visual things I miss from OS/2. There I had my apps set to

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Preciso de uma ajuda e na o sei definir o assunto. Sei que é fora do top ico

2007-01-26 Thread Junior Polegato
Marcelo Laia escreveu: Socorro!!! Eu tenho um arquivo delimitado por tab com 13 colunas e 1958 linhas. As primeiras 2 colunas trazem informacoes, tipo um ID e um nome. As seis colunas seguintes trazem informacoes numericas variadas. As ultimas 5 colunas trazem informacao de presença ou

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Preciso de uma ajuda e na o sei definir o assunto. Sei que é fora do top ico

2007-01-26 Thread Junior Polegato
henrique escreveu: Em Sexta 26 Janeiro 2007 08:06, Junior Polegato escreveu: Marcelo Laia escreveu: Socorro!!! Eu tenho um arquivo delimitado por tab com 13 colunas e 1958 linhas. As primeiras 2 colunas trazem informacoes, tipo um ID e um nome. As seis colunas seguintes trazem

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-26 Thread John L Fjellstad
Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect it's because Gnome and KDE seem to think that looks like Windows is the best interface design and Windows uses black-on-white, It does? I'm pretty sure I've only seen white-on-black command-line windows in Windows. Can't ever remember seeing

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-26 Thread Firebeam
John L Fjellstad wrote: It does? I'm pretty sure I've only seen white-on-black command-line windows in Windows. Can't ever remember seeing a black-on-white window. I think he's not talking about the DOS prompt, but applications like word processors, spreadsheets and the like. --

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-25 Thread hendrik
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:27:07PM -0500, Steve C. Lamb wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 08:57:07PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Personally, I feel this hardcoding of colors in the application is a downside of X. One of the few visual things I miss from OS/2. There I had my apps set to

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 02:41:21PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: I wonder why gnome, kde chose to have white on black background as defaults in konsole, gnome-terminal etc., Are those developers so reflective than being projective? :-) I suspect it's because Gnome and KDE seem to think

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:24:52PM -0500, Steve C. Lamb wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 03:17:17AM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: One of the reasons I prefer dark on light is the excessive use of blue in ls output (which I tend to use a lot). So... change it. LS_COLORS controls what colors

Re: [OT] Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread celejar
that they can be crammed into a four-line-by-70ish-column signature, while those with real meat to them are too large for that. I confess that I am rather leery of Jefferson's almost unbalanced extremism as manifested in his over-the-top support for the French Revolution, as in the notorious Adam and Eve

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread John C
It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... everyone should act and believe like I do. And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much bile being spewed at top posters. So which is best, top posting or bottom posting? Who knows? Who ^%^% cares? I certainly don't. On this list however, I

Re: [OT] Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: I confess that I am rather leery of Jefferson's almost unbalanced extremism as manifested in his over-the-top support for the French Revolution, as in the notorious Adam and Eve quote [0]. Seems pretty reasonable to me, in the context of the times. -- John Hasler

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Ken Irving
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 10:41:02AM -0600, John C wrote: It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... everyone should act and believe like I do. And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much bile being spewed at top posters. So which is best, top posting or bottom posting? Who knows

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Steve Lamb
John C wrote: It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... everyone should act and believe like I do. And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much bile being spewed at top posters. No, it's not. It's called a convention for communicating with one another. Do you call it religious

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 14:03, Steve Lamb wrote: The fanatics insisted that the background should be black and the text white because that was the natural way to view a computer screen. It was the way that it would always remain. Of course, when I went to my office supply store and

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Paul Johnson
Francis Healy wrote: I'm dodging the bile being spewed at top posters. Bottom line, top posting is not evil. Scrool down if you want to read the original message. Just because you do it among your limited circle of friends and coworkers doesn't mean it's acceptable in a public environment

Re: [OT] Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread celejar
On 1/24/07, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar writes: I confess that I am rather leery of Jefferson's almost unbalanced extremism as manifested in his over-the-top support for the French Revolution, as in the notorious Adam and Eve quote [0]. Seems pretty reasonable to me

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread hendrik
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:03:55AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: John C wrote: It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... everyone should act and believe like I do. And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much bile being spewed at top posters. No, it's not. It's called

Foreground and background (was: top post fixer?)

2007-01-24 Thread hendrik
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 02:41:21PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Wednesday 24 January 2007 14:03, Steve Lamb wrote: The fanatics insisted that the background should be black and the text white because that was the natural way to view a computer screen. It was the way that it

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread John C
Steve Lamb wrote: John C wrote: It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... everyone should act and believe like I do. And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much bile being spewed at top posters. No, it's not. It's called a convention for communicating with one another. Do you

Re: [OT] Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: I confess that I am rather leery of Jefferson's almost unbalanced extremism as manifested in his over-the-top support for the French Revolution, as in the notorious Adam and Eve quote [0]. I wrote: Seems pretty reasonable to me, in the context of the times. Celejar writes

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Paul Johnson
John C wrote: It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... everyone should act and believe like I do. And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much bile being spewed at top posters. So which is best, top posting or bottom posting? Who knows? Who ^%^% cares? Anybody with a limited

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Steve C. Lamb
in the manner that the educated think they should - bottom posting only please. As many of us have pointed out, bottom posting is no better than top posting. Interleaving is the correct standard. And as I said before, learning how to communicate is part of being educated guess what that means when you

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Francis Healy
John C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: John C wrote: It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... everyone should act and believe like I do. And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much bile being spewed at top posters. No, it's not. It's called a convention

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Joey Hess
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: Paper is REFLECTIVE. Monitors are PROJECTIVE. What's that mean? It means that paper REFLECTS the light that hits it. Without an outside source of light you wouldn't see jack on paper. However a monitor PROJECTS light. In the absence of all other light you

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Wim De Smet
On 1/24/07, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John C wrote: It's kinda like a religious fanaticism... everyone should act and believe like I do. And yes, you're absolutely right - there is too much bile being spewed at top posters. No, it's not. It's called a convention

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 03:17:17AM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: Then again, contrast is higher with light-on-dark sometimes increasing eye strain. If your whites are blinding you you might just want to adjust your monitor brightness and/or contrast. Which results in me constantly adjusting

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-24 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 08:57:07PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Personally, I feel this hardcoding of colors in the application is a downside of X. One of the few visual things I miss from OS/2. There I had my apps set to white on black and they all behaved properly. Colors were set in the OS'

Re: [OT] Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-23 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:55:32AM -0500, celejar wrote: On 1/22/07, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:25:23AM -0600, John C wrote: I would rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than those attending too small degree of it. -

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-23 Thread Paul Johnson
John C wrote: I would rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than those attending too small degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson If you really believe this quote, why do you insist that bottom posting is the only correct way to go? Because the top-posters

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-23 Thread Francis Healy
I'm dodging the bile being spewed at top posters. Bottom line, top posting is not evil. Scrool down if you want to read the original message. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John C wrote: I would rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than those attending

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-23 Thread Guillermo Garron
On 1/18/07, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, with the continual talk of the bad etiquitte of top posts, I was thinking if anyone has ever developed a way to fix the problem. - --- HEADER BLANK_LINE TOP_POST BLANK_LINE MESSAGE

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread John C
I would rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than those attending too small degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson If you really believe this quote, why do you insist that bottom posting is the only *correct* way to go? By the way, I do love the quote. :-) John --

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:25:23AM -0600, John C wrote: I would rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than those attending too small degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson If you really believe this quote, why do you insist that bottom posting is the only *correct*

[OT] Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread celejar
On 1/22/07, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:25:23AM -0600, John C wrote: I would rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than those attending too small degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson [snip] By the way, I do love the quote.

Re: [OT] Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread John C
celejar wrote: On 1/22/07, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:25:23AM -0600, John C wrote: I would rather be exposed to the inconvenience attending too much Liberty than those attending too small degree of it. - Thomas Jefferson [snip] By the way, I

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread Paul Johnson
Kevin Mark wrote: Now if only I would switch from mutt to gnus That's a pretty good idea if you have more than one list/newsgroup subscription that gets this kind of traffic. I would still give yourself a rainy weekend to learn gnus if you're not a LISPer, though; it's got something of a

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread Paul Johnson
is it that most mail clients default to a top post? When you hit reply, There is a blank space where your cursor it, followed by . wrote: and then the message you are replying to. Yes, quoted. What else should they do? My MUA can't read my mind to tell which quotes are irrelevant and should

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread Paul Johnson
Francis Healy wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ken Irving wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:57:25PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Hi folks, with the continual talk of the bad etiquitte of top posts... Why is it that most mail clients default to a top post? They don't. Most

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:43:05AM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: Why is it that most mail clients default to a top post? When you hit reply, There is a blank space where your cursor it, followed by . wrote: and then the message you are replying to. If top posting is really as bad as some

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:15:55PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: Granted, context is much less of a concern when reading in threaded mode within a single mail-reading session, but some blighted souls are still using non-threaded MUAs, memory of the thread's content fades when you move on to

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-22 Thread Steve C. Lamb
something and forcing them to do it. My intent is to persuade, not to enforce. Not to mention there's a huge difference between interleaving/trimming and bottom-posting. Bottom-posting is no better than top-posting. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:43:05AM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: Why is it that most mail clients default to a top post? When you hit reply, There is a blank space where your cursor it, followed by . wrote: and then the message you are replying to. Yes, quoted. What else should

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 09:13:53PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Thanks to all those emacs folks that pointed out this function! If I can only translate the gnus function to a mutt function... Now if only I would switch from mutt to gnus :-) Could you not just use emacs as the editor for mutt? --

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:53:33AM +, Andy Smith wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 09:13:53PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Thanks to all those emacs folks that pointed out this function! If I can only translate the gnus function to a mutt function... Now if only I would switch from mutt to

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread John L Fjellstad
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks to all those emacs folks that pointed out this function! If I can only translate the gnus function to a mutt function... Now if only I would switch from mutt to gnus :-) I only use gnus to access newsgroups (I'm reading all my mailing lists through

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread Stephen
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 04:59:52AM -0500 or thereabouts, Kevin Mark wrote: On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:53:33AM +, Andy Smith wrote: Could you not just use emacs as the editor for mutt? I am in the process of trying to get procmail to filter all posts through the gnus function so that

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread Francis Healy
Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:43:05AM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: Why is it that most mail clients default to a top post? When you hit reply, There is a blank space where your cursor it, followed by . wrote: and then the message you are replying to. Yes

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:32:35AM -0500, Stephen wrote: On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 04:59:52AM -0500 or thereabouts, Kevin Mark wrote: On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:53:33AM +, Andy Smith wrote: Could you not just use emacs as the editor for mutt? I am in the process of trying to get

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 07:56:23AM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: It's not in the event. You almost always need to trim your quotes. Although response-before-reply quoting is itself often a pain to decipher, my biggest beef with top-posting is that top-posters almost always just throw some text

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread John L Fjellstad
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But so far, it has not changed an emails, at least as far as I can tell. If anyone knows why or has a better function, let me know. Did you try to run it on the command line, to see if it works? I don't really know procmail enough to see what the problem

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 07:56:23AM -0800, Francis Healy wrote: If top posting is realy the bane of everyone's existance that certian voceriferous individuals claim it is, what is wrong with the mail client putting the cursor at the at the botttom of the reply and letting you move

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 22:57 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Hi folks, with the continual talk of the bad etiquitte of top posts, I was thinking if anyone has ever developed a way to fix the problem. Isn't top post fixer a synonym to a LART? ;-) I think he was looking

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Ken Irving wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:57:25PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Hi folks, with the continual talk of the bad etiquitte of top posts, I was thinking if anyone has ever developed a way to fix the problem. --- HEADER BLANK_LINE TOP_POST BLANK_LINE MESSAGE SIG

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Kevin Mark wrote: with the continual talk of the bad etiquitte of top posts, I was thinking if anyone has ever developed a way to fix the problem. - --- HEADER BLANK_LINE TOP_POST BLANK_LINE MESSAGE SIG - --- into - --- HEADER BLANK_LINE MESSAGE BLANK_LINE

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-20 Thread Jhair Tocancipa Triana
Paul Johnson writes: Gnus has this functionality, IIRC. The name is on the tip of my tongue, like de-outlookify or something. ,[ C-h k W-Y-f ] | W Y f runs the command gnus-article-outlook-deuglify-article | which is an interactive autoloaded Lisp function in `deuglify'. | It is bound

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-20 Thread Francis Healy
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ken Irving wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:57:25PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Hi folks, with the continual talk of the bad etiquitte of top posts... Why is it that most mail clients default to a top post? When you hit reply, There is a blank space

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:43:05 -0800 (PST) Francis Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ken Irving wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:57:25PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: Hi folks, with the continual talk of the bad etiquitte of top posts... Why

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-20 Thread John L Fjellstad
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi folks, with the continual talk of the bad etiquitte of top posts, I was thinking if anyone has ever developed a way to fix the problem. The Gnus people already did that: W Y c or Article - Washing - (Outlook) Deuglify - Rearrange Citation -- John L

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