On 7/19/06, Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bill Haneman wrote:
> > gnome_program_init also loads the accessibility support, calling gconf
> > in the process. It's not clear to me that this could conveniently be
> > put elsewhere without complicating the dependencies of other modules
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 14:48 +1200, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Bill Haneman wrote:
> > ...
> > I seem to recall that there was a reason why we didn't use 'startup
> > programs' before. Can't remember what it was... but I seem to
> > remember looking at and rejecting
On 7/24/06, Shaun McCance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I did an upgrade[1] and Sticky Notes wasn't there
> anymore, I'd be pretty pissed. That's my data. It
> was probably important. And it's gone. Sure, I'll
> bet it's buried in a dot directory somewhere. I'll
> bet I could find it. I'll
Ben Maurer wrote:
>This can be done today!
Ok, I am confused then... If GTK# is already modular as you claim and if
Mike is willing to offer a migration path for his current apps, I don't see
why all this discussion is taking place... There should not be any technical
reason left as to why GTK
(Sigh. This will teach me to send emails at 3am. Luckily in a week
you're all rid of me for several years ;)
On 7/19/06, Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On mer, 2006-07-19 at 03:28 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
>
> > * distros are all crap at getting their bugs upstream, pretty much.
> >
On 7/19/06, Dan Winship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Luis Villa wrote:
> > * distros are all crap at getting their bugs upstream, pretty much.
> > (Some are slightly better than others, at various times.)
>
> So now that we've got XML-RPC support in bugzilla, it would be insanely
> cool if someone
On Jul 25, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Bill Haneman wrote:
> ...
> I seem to recall that there was a reason why we didn't use 'startup
> programs' before. Can't remember what it was... but I seem to
> remember looking at and rejecting that before. Maybe because we
> wanted the ATs to launch first? Or i
On 7/24/06, Willie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does this mean FC6 will not be GNOME 2.16?
It will be 2.16 - except for new modules which are not yet
in FC. Of course, most (all ?) of the new modules under consideration
are available in Fedora Extras anyway.
Matthias
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man, 24 07 2006 kl. 19:45 -0500, skrev Shaun McCance:
> On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 02:02 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:
> > man, 24 07 2006 kl. 22:58 +0100, skrev Alan Horkan:
> > > APIs get deprecated, but applications get removed entirely.
> > > Sometimes the option to keep using what you were happy with
Does this mean FC6 will not be GNOME 2.16?
Will
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 19:56 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Whatever solution you choose in the end, please make sure that
> it will continue to work with gnopernicus (it was too late for us to
> replace gnopernicus by orca for FC6)
>
> Matthias
>
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 02:02 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:
> man, 24 07 2006 kl. 22:58 +0100, skrev Alan Horkan:
> > APIs get deprecated, but applications get removed entirely.
> > Sometimes the option to keep using what you were happy with really is
> > better than having to learn a new different app
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 22:58 +0100, skrev Alan Horkan:
> > I have no gripe with sticky notes,
>
> Doesn't sound like it. You are advocating it be removed and the Tomboy
> author is not.
I honestly don't, my gripe is with duplication of functionality, if we
include Tomboy, which I believe was the d
Whatever solution you choose in the end, please make sure that
it will continue to work with gnopernicus (it was too late for us to
replace gnopernicus by orca for FC6)
Matthias
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> On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 16:07 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote:
> > The system bus (>=0.90) needs to be running and accessible by the
> > build. We need to rem
(trimming distro list)
By the way, libgail-gnome is unchanged from Gnome 2.14, but maintained
(no known bugs at this time). Please include it in the 2.16 release,
noting any issues in bugzilla (component atk/gail or at-spi/general;
libgail-gnome doesn't have its own bugzilla category ATM).
regar
Hi:
Just released:
gail-0.9.1 (bugfixes, add AtkStreamableContent implementation to
GtkTextView)
gnome-mag-0.13.1 (add get/setContrast property, setPointerPos method for
clients, bugfixes)
atk-1.12.1 (bugfixes, AtkHyperlinkImpl interface, new AtkRole, AtkState,
and AtkRelation enums)
at-spi-1.
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, David Nielsen wrote:
> man, 24 07 2006 kl. 19:49 +0100, skrev Jamie McCracken:
>
> > I dont doubt that but FWIW when it comes to adding Tracker to gnome
> > 2.18, I would like notes to be added as a first class object and stored
> > in Tracker's DB. Tracker already makes it e
Hi Sean, Will,
If I might chime in... I think either of Will's proposals is fine for
GNOME 2.16, with a slight preference to #2 - to move users to launching
AT at startup just like the launch other apps at startup.
Calling out "screen reader", "screen magnifier", and "on screen
keyboard" does
On 7/24/06, Frederic Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Luis Villa wrote:
>
> > Tangential to this, there was an awesome BOF at GUADEC about
> > continuous build integration, which hopefully would avoid problems
> > like this. Has there been any news on that front that I missed? :)
>
> Things I kn
Luis Villa wrote:
> Tangential to this, there was an awesome BOF at GUADEC about
> continuous build integration, which hopefully would avoid problems
> like this. Has there been any news on that front that I missed? :)
Things I know: Thomas looked at issues with coverage support in GCC 4
and got
Hi Shaun:
I think we've all agreed that we want to replace Gnopernicus with Orca
and I think we all agree that the accessibility dialog needs work. I do
not believe the work for the two must be coupled.
If I understand your primary concern with the migration, it's that the
user who has configure
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 16:07 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote:
> The system bus (>=0.90) needs to be running and accessible by the
> build. We need to remove this dependency in the future. The quick fix
> is to build outside of jhbuild and copy the
>
> dbus-bus-introspect.xml into the tools dire
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 19:49 +0100, skrev Jamie McCracken:
> I dont doubt that but FWIW when it comes to adding Tracker to gnome
> 2.18, I would like notes to be added as a first class object and stored
> in Tracker's DB. Tracker already makes it easy to add tagging,
> extensible metadata and link
The system bus (>=0.90) needs to be running and accessible by the
build. We need to remove this dependency in the future. The quick fix
is to build outside of jhbuild and copy the
dbus-bus-introspect.xml into the tools directory in D-Bus's jhbuild build root.
--
John (J5) Palmieri
Don Scorgi
Tangential to this, there was an awesome BOF at GUADEC about
continuous build integration, which hopefully would avoid problems
like this. Has there been any news on that front that I missed? :)
Thanks-
Luis
On 7/24/06, Jason D. Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After bludgeoning jhbuild to ge
Hi,
I managed to get jhbuild working (or at least managed to compile most of
the modules) last night / today.
I got around the problem described by (IIRC) rebuilding dbus (the
original package) with --localstatedir=/var as a configure flag.
This almost certainly breaks a lot of things and one of
After bludgeoning jhbuild to get it to build the latest CVS checkouts, I
have reached a point I can't get past. The dbus developers on Freenode
can't seem to help either. An informal poll on #gnome-hackers says that
GNOME has been unbuildable for at least the past few days. Anyone who
can shed some
David Nielsen wrote:
> man, 24 07 2006 kl. 12:51 +0100, skrev Calum Benson:
>> On 22 Jul 2006, at 12:50, David Nielsen wrote:
>>
>>> Sticky Notes tends to get cluttered up for note taking while project
>>> managing, it's an all or nothing interface whereas Tomboy allows me to
>>> show only related
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, David Nielsen wrote:
> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:10:22 +0200
> From: David Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: Tomboy in Desktop
>
> man, 24 07 2006 kl. 12:51 +0100, skrev Calum Benson:
> > On 22 Jul 2006, at 12:50, David Nielsen wrot
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 19:20, Shaun McCance wrote:
> Doing Orca right in 2.16 will require some changes in core
> Gnome modules. Unfortunately, the feature and UI freeze is
> today. I'd like to outline a proposal for getting Orca in
> this release cycle.
>
> First, I don't know which module is re
Doing Orca right in 2.16 will require some changes in core
Gnome modules. Unfortunately, the feature and UI freeze is
today. I'd like to outline a proposal for getting Orca in
this release cycle.
First, I don't know which module is responsible for starting
accessibility tools on log in. Somebod
Andy Wingo wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 16:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
parallel-instabllable is the worst idea of software development.
>
>See http://ometer.com/parallel.html for the reasons why GNOME does it
>this way.
>
>
Thanks! Look like my o
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 18:04 +0100, Iain * wrote:
> And so, I have no problem with parallel installs even 5 years after
> the old software became obsolete so long as it solved my needs.
This thread is getting very silly. AFAICS, Ghee is actually (badly)
arguing against breaking ABIs.
On 7/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Iain * wrote:
>
> >>The other example is gstreamer, I am sure they can share with us
> >> whether
> >> their decision to go with parallel-installable version of 0.8 and
> >> 0.10 was a
> >> pleasant exercise. Of course they were facing
On 7/24/06, Andy Wingo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 16:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >>parallel-instabllable is the worst idea of software development.
>
> See http://ometer.com/parallel.html for the reasons why GNOME does it
> this way.
And forgive me if
Hi,
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 16:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>parallel-instabllable is the worst idea of software development.
See http://ometer.com/parallel.html for the reasons why GNOME does it
this way.
Regards,
--
Andy Wingo
http://wingolog.org/
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On 24 Jul 2006, at 17:10, David Nielsen wrote:
> No distros actually expose the sticky note application as far as
> I'm aware
To be fair, why would they... distros don't expose most applets,
apart from the fairly standard few they choose to have on their panel
by default. I wouldn't reall
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 16:47 +0100, skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Iain * wrote:
>
> >>The other example is gstreamer, I am sure they can share with us
> >> whether
> >> their decision to go with parallel-installable version of 0.8 and
> >> 0.10 was a
> >> pleasant exercise. Of course they were fac
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 12:51 +0100, skrev Calum Benson:
> On 22 Jul 2006, at 12:50, David Nielsen wrote:
>
> > Sticky Notes tends to get cluttered up for note taking while project
> > managing, it's an all or nothing interface whereas Tomboy allows me to
> > show only related notes. I normally prefer
Iain * wrote:
>>The other example is gstreamer, I am sure they can share with us
>> whether
>> their decision to go with parallel-installable version of 0.8 and
>> 0.10 was a
>> pleasant exercise. Of course they were facing similar situations as
>> is now.
>
>
> Speaking as aGStreamer appli
Hi,
gtksourceview has been finally branched for gnome 2.14. No new features
are planned, the branch has been done just to add some new .lang files
which add some translatable strings.
In case someone is wondering if there are exciting new features planned
on the longer term, yes: a brand
>The other example is gstreamer, I am sure they can share with us whether
> their decision to go with parallel-installable version of 0.8 and 0.10 was a
> pleasant exercise. Of course they were facing similar situations as is now.
Speaking as aGStreamer application author and user, it was very
Elijah Newren wrote:
> On 7/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Mike Kestner wrote:
>>
>> > My Gtk#-lite 2.16 binding would be allowed to break API in 2.18 as
>> long
>> >
>> >as I make it parallel-installable, thereby breaking all existing
>> >Gtk#-lite applications unless p
On 7/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike Kestner wrote:
>
> > My Gtk#-lite 2.16 binding would be allowed to break API in 2.18 as long
> >
> >as I make it parallel-installable, thereby breaking all existing
> >Gtk#-lite applications unless packagers provide Bindings release 2.
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 14:14 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
> On 22 Jul 2006, at 07:13, Ryan Paul wrote:
> > There are also some naming inconsistencies within individual programs.
> > "Image -> Scale" and "Tools -> Resize Images" in GThumb, for instance,
> > is a good example.
>
> This sort of thing is
On 22 Jul 2006, at 07:13, Ryan Paul wrote:
> There seems to be some confusion about what the first top-level menu
> should be called in cases where the contents of that menu do not
> relate
> to operations that are performed on files. In some cases, particularly
> in the terminal, using the nam
On 22 Jul 2006, at 12:50, David Nielsen wrote:
> Sticky Notes tends to get cluttered up for note taking while project
> managing, it's an all or nothing interface whereas Tomboy allows me to
> show only related notes. I normally prefer having only the set of
> post-it notes I care about displayed
Hi all,
With the impending feature freeze, this is a reminder to all maintainers
to update the Release Notes page of the wiki [1].
This page is used by the doc team as a starting point to update the
various manuals (failing a better alternative). This saves searching
through the Changelogs, tryi
Mike Kestner wrote:
> My Gtk#-lite 2.16 binding would be allowed to break API in 2.18 as long
>
>as I make it parallel-installable, thereby breaking all existing
>Gtk#-lite applications unless packagers provide Bindings release 2.16
>with their 2.18 desktop
>
parallel-instabllable is the worst
Vincent Untz wrote:
>Le samedi 22 juillet 2006, à 15:44, Joe Shaw a écrit :
>
>
>>Hi Vincent,
>>
>>Vincent Untz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The API in the bindings suite covers the platform API. This has to be
>>>clear to ISD/ISV and we don't want to compromise this message. Please
>>>don't consider Gtk
[snip]
> That's how MS took over the world, by providing full backwards
> compatibility with MS-DOS apps of 1981.
MS also do parallel installs in order to provide new functionality without
breaking old applications. For instance, the MSVC++ DLLs.
Going off topic: As someone who has wasted countle
Brent Smith wrote:
> > I've commited the patch just now. Unfortunately no way to build a python
> > (setup.py) module in jhbuild.. Or not? Any info?
>
> There seems to be some preliminary support in jhbuild/modtypes/distutils.py.
>
> Can anyone comment here? (/me looks at James or Frederic)
I
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