On 8/6/06, Nigel Tao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deskbar-applet has this aswell (same code). I think GNOME needs some API
for registering global keybindings. IIRC someone did some work on
providing an actual UI for user defined keybindings (instead of the
current mess with gconf). Isn't it
On 8/6/06, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 22:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
Also please do not replace stickynotes with Tomboy. They are different
applications. I use sticky notes like you use the normal sticky notes.
Just to write something I should remember:
Hi,
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 22:13 +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote:
Also jumping in late but I think I haven't seen a comment about the fact
that Tomboy does not have any Help Documentation.
There is already a discussion about getting the documentation ready on
the doc-list:
* Aug 05 07:18 Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jumping late into this discussion, but I just discovered an area where
tomboy really falls short of our standards for desktop integration,
hotkeys.
Just like beagle-search, tomboy has its own private sucky way of
defining hotkeys, and goes
Deskbar-applet has this aswell (same code). I think GNOME needs some API
for registering global keybindings. IIRC someone did some work on
providing an actual UI for user defined keybindings (instead of the
current mess with gconf). Isn't it logical to give apps a way to hook in
to this
On 7/28/06, Andrew Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does all this square with the notes component in Evolution? Seems
that instead of both above the right term would be all three
[I've had the switcher buttons turned off for a long time, so only just
noticed that such a thing was even in
On 7/28/06, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As you probably already know Havoc Pennington wrote a very interesting
article about Working on Free
Software http://ometer.com/hacking.html
which makes a strong point of Don't start by launching your own project
but Gnome is faced by a lot of
Jeff Waugh wrote:
I haven't really heard much of a critical response to these ideas, just more
ber, Desktop, Desktop, Desktop, get it all in Desktop stuff. Why does it
need to be in Desktop? Why do we have to jam everything in Desktop? Can we
ship it in Powertools (a suite that has been
On Jul 26, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Alex Graveley wrote:
...
Here's a status update on recent Tomboy happenings...
I've applied a patch originally from Novell to use Tango icons and
removed the possibly legally entangled Tintin icon.
...
I don't mean to be a nuisance, but since Tomboy is licensed
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Dan Winship
The big missing piece here is translation. Alex can't personally translate
Tomboy into all 52 languages, but the translators don't have time to
translate every single GNOME app in the universe either. So if we want to
consider Tomboy to be in, GNOME
On 7/27/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Jeff Waugh
Here's my point of view, completely independent from the fact that Tomboy
is built with Gtk#/Mono. Here it is in point form, because I seem to be
doing pretty well with it:
I haven't really heard much of a critical
On 7/28/06, Iain * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Taking notes is hardly a power user thing. Most people like having a
place that they can just scribble some notes down. My opinion is that
if it is in anything it should be the desktop release.
Oh, and tomboy gives us enough new ability with being
Tomboy already does this, though the description it gives is pretty
minimal today. What do you think it should say?
-Alex
Iain * wrote:
Maybe on first run the Start Here note could pop up on screen and
explain what it is. I dunno, but thats a discussion for the tomboy
developers
Here note could pop up on screen and
explain what it is. I dunno, but thats a discussion for the tomboy
developers.
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On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 00:19 +0100, Iain * wrote:
As for its conflict with sticky notes, the options are
a) Have both
b) Have both but deprecate sticky notes.
c) Replace
How does all this square with the notes component in Evolution? Seems
that instead of both above the right term would be
quote who=Jeff Waugh
Here's my point of view, completely independent from the fact that Tomboy
is built with Gtk#/Mono. Here it is in point form, because I seem to be
doing pretty well with it:
I haven't really heard much of a critical response to these ideas, just more
ber, Desktop, Desktop,
Stability for those who do use it. Why force users to change? Dont try
to assume you know best.
Predictable might have been a better choice of word for what I meant by
stable. I'm saying that versions of Gnome 2.x should continue to offer
the same or very similar software and keep churn
Hi,
Here's a status update on recent Tomboy happenings...
I've applied a patch originally from Novell to use Tango icons and
removed the possibly legally entangled Tintin icon. I've also just
committed the patch from Sanford for the initial Sticky Note importer
plugin. And I've merged a
want Tomboy in the desktop? :)
Cheeri,
Calum.
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Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun
On 24 Jul 2006, at 17:10, David Nielsen wrote:
No distros actually expose the sticky note application as far as
I'm aware
To be fair, why would they... distros don't expose most applets,
apart from the fairly standard few they choose to have on their panel
by default. I wouldn't really
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, David Nielsen wrote:
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:10:22 +0200
From: David Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Tomboy in Desktop
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 12:51 +0100, skrev Calum Benson:
On 22 Jul 2006, at 12:50, David Nielsen wrote
to fix sticky notes to let you show/hide notes
individually or in groups, do we want Tomboy in the desktop? :)
Yes, the wiki-like interlinking between notes, spell checking,
searching, drag and drop support for referencing mail and other nice
features in Tomboy makes it a superior product.
I
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 19:49 +0100, skrev Jamie McCracken:
I dont doubt that but FWIW when it comes to adding Tracker to gnome
2.18, I would like notes to be added as a first class object and stored
in Tracker's DB. Tracker already makes it easy to add tagging,
extensible metadata and linking
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, David Nielsen wrote:
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 19:49 +0100, skrev Jamie McCracken:
I dont doubt that but FWIW when it comes to adding Tracker to gnome
2.18, I would like notes to be added as a first class object and stored
in Tracker's DB. Tracker already makes it easy to
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 22:58 +0100, skrev Alan Horkan:
I have no gripe with sticky notes,
Doesn't sound like it. You are advocating it be removed and the Tomboy
author is not.
I honestly don't, my gripe is with duplication of functionality, if we
include Tomboy, which I believe was the
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 02:02 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 22:58 +0100, skrev Alan Horkan:
APIs get deprecated, but applications get removed entirely.
Sometimes the option to keep using what you were happy with really is
better than having to learn a new different
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 19:45 -0500, skrev Shaun McCance:
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 02:02 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:
man, 24 07 2006 kl. 22:58 +0100, skrev Alan Horkan:
APIs get deprecated, but applications get removed entirely.
Sometimes the option to keep using what you were happy with really
On 7/24/06, Shaun McCance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I did an upgrade[1] and Sticky Notes wasn't there
anymore, I'd be pretty pissed. That's my data. It
was probably important. And it's gone. Sure, I'll
bet it's buried in a dot directory somewhere. I'll
bet I could find it. I'll bet my
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Jeff Waugh wrote:
* Without a doubt, Tomboy is pure awesome.
Amen. Only 2 gripes:
o Passing of tomboy notes over IP to an existing Tomboy session on
someone else's boxen (ala KNotes)
o A plugin for tomboy that allows back and forth import export
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Jeff Waugh
* Should we include Tomboy in the Desktop suite? (completely
independently from the fact that it uses Gtk#/Mono)
IIRC, there was an issue regarding Tomboy's icon (it was Tintin's head,
which was both ugly and copyrighted). Was this one addressed
Tomboy looks like a hybrid (or should I say mutant) wiki page system
and mind mapping software.
You should try using it for a week. The concept works really well in
actuality. It is good for short term mind-mapping and for longer term
note taking.
Ed Mack
lør, 22 07 2006 kl. 12:08 +0100, skrev Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro:
Sáb, 2006-07-22 às 00:10 +0200, David Nielsen escreveu:
lør, 22 07 2006 kl. 02:33 +1000, skrev Jeff Waugh:
quote who=Jeff Waugh
* Should we include Tomboy in the Desktop suite? (completely
independently from
Hi,
Novell has sent me their patch to replace the Tintin icon with a Tango
icon, so the next release will no longer have it.
-Alex
Steve Frécinaux wrote:
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Jeff Waugh
* Should we include Tomboy in the Desktop suite? (completely
independently from the fact
quote who=Jeff Waugh
* Should we include Tomboy in the Desktop suite? (completely
independently from the fact that it uses Gtk#/Mono)
Hi,
Here's my point of view, completely independent from the fact that Tomboy is
built with Gtk#/Mono. Here it is in point form, because I seem to be doing
Jeff Waugh wrote:
* Without a doubt, Tomboy is pure awesome.
* We don't have to integrate *everything* into the Desktop suite. That was
never its purpose. The Desktop suite is all about the OOTB (out of the
box) desktop user experience.
I don't get it. Don't we want the out of the
quote who=Dan Winship
Jeff Waugh wrote:
* Without a doubt, Tomboy is pure awesome.
* We don't have to integrate *everything* into the Desktop suite. That
was never its purpose. The Desktop suite is all about the OOTB (out of
the box) desktop user experience.
I don't get it.
lør, 22 07 2006 kl. 02:33 +1000, skrev Jeff Waugh:
quote who=Jeff Waugh
* Should we include Tomboy in the Desktop suite? (completely
independently from the fact that it uses Gtk#/Mono)
Hi,
Here's my point of view, completely independent from the fact that Tomboy is
built with Gtk
Hi,
To the first quoted point, I don't recall ever rejecting Sticky Note
import. Quite the contrary, I've advocated that we use a first-run
import wizard to aid migration.
Serendipitously, in recent days, most of the major work for importing
has been contributed by Sanford Armstrong in the
On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 00:10 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:
lør, 22 07 2006 kl. 02:33 +1000, skrev Jeff Waugh:
* If Alex wants to adopt the GNOME release cycle and strategy for Tomboy,
that's *fantastic*... but we can approach that differently.
Tomboy being largely feature complete and
fre, 21 07 2006 kl. 17:57 -0500, skrev Shaun McCance:
On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 00:10 +0200, David Nielsen wrote:
lør, 22 07 2006 kl. 02:33 +1000, skrev Jeff Waugh:
* If Alex wants to adopt the GNOME release cycle and strategy for Tomboy,
that's *fantastic*... but we can approach that
Here's my point of view, completely independent from the fact that Tomboy is
built with Gtk#/Mono. Here it is in point form, because I seem to be doing
pretty well with it:
* Without a doubt, Tomboy is pure awesome.
Yes
* Alex says that Tomboy doesn't replace Sticky Notes, he doesn't
Alex Graveley wrote:
To the second point, I have received very mixed response to the question
of Tomboy's replacing of Sticky Notes. And we can see that mails to
this list have expressed both points of view, with a slight bias towards
the two coexisting (especially from those who actually
Notes in Sticky Notes are modal meaning they are all displayed on the
screen or they are all hidden. I currently have 307 Tomboy notes :-)
-Alex
Steve Frécinaux wrote:
What about sharing the note storage between the two ? I feel like it's
not possible for tomboy to use raw stickynotes data
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