On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 12:00:11AM -0500, Mike Shaver wrote:
> ... it seems to me that nobody has
> actually come out and said why we want a great doc portal. If it's I
> had to explain it to somebody, it'd probably be "to get more ISVs to
> target Linux" or even "to get more ISV software on
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 09:55:41PM -0700, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> maybe i'm just very jaded by watching to date how documentation doesn't
> accumulate in projects very effectively.
This is very true. The vast majority of projects I've been in have had
this documentation gap issue.
Inkscape's be
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 09:55:41PM -0700, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 January 2006 21:01, Bastian, Waldo wrote:
> > There would be a natural motivation in the sense that everyone will be
> > documenting those parts of the system that they have a natural interest
> > in already anyway.
>
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 22:54, you wrote:
> really do think that we need to associate those _problems_ with
> specific changes we expect to see in Linux desktop adoption if we fix
> them.
if i were to draw a line between problem and result-upon-successful-slution,
i'd probably draw these two gr
On 4-Jan-06, at 12:18 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
there is a reason Microsoft has MSDN, Apple has http://
developer.apple.com/,
Sun has SDN, Oracle has TechNet, etc
Oh yes, indeed, and it's probably very close to the reason that we
have http://developer.mozilla.org/. I understand the valu
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 22:00, Mike Shaver wrote:
> to target people who are not already Linux ISVs. Why doesn't Adobe
> have Photoshop for Linux?
photoshop (at least certain versions of it?) run under WINE thanks to Disney
(IIRC) paying for that devel. the fact that it runs on WINE to the
s
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 21:01, Bastian, Waldo wrote:
> There would be a natural motivation in the sense that everyone will be
> documenting those parts of the system that they have a natural interest
> in already anyway.
given that we don't have much of this documentation right now (i'm thinki
On 3-Jan-06, at 11:13 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
don't know if attempting to privatize it is really what we want,
though.
If the portal is successful in addressing the needs of interested
ISVs, I suspect that AdSense could generate plenty of money to pay
for hosting and some bounties or con
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 20:56, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> Hmm, do we have a feasible source for the monetary investment for this?
> I'm guessing that something on the order of several million would be
> required?
indeed...
given that this is really a support service and support services are s
>On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 05:11:27PM -0800, Bastian, Waldo wrote:
>> >Yes, the concensus was that it would be difficult to host a
developer
>> >resource like this with any of the Linux distributions and/or
desktop
>> >organizations. However, the distros and desktop organizations have
the
>> >conten
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 08:40:58PM -0700, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 January 2006 19:48, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > This sounds like it would be a very, very big writing effort, perhaps
> > not to the scale of Wikipedia, but at least of the scope of the Linux
> > documentation project,
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 19:48, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> This sounds like it would be a very, very big writing effort, perhaps
> not to the scale of Wikipedia, but at least of the scope of the Linux
> documentation project, and perhaps larger. So... what would keep these
> writers motivated to
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 05:11:27PM -0800, Bastian, Waldo wrote:
> >Yes, the concensus was that it would be difficult to host a developer
> >resource like this with any of the Linux distributions and/or desktop
> >organizations. However, the distros and desktop organizations have the
> >content tha
>Yes, the concensus was that it would be difficult to host a developer
>resource like this with any of the Linux distributions and/or desktop
>organizations. However, the distros and desktop organizations have the
>content that is needed to make the portal meaningful.
I think the solution to that
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 23:40 +, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 03:28:29PM -0800, John Cherry wrote:
> > - Possible hosts mentioned were OSDL, freedesktop.org, launchpad.net,
> ^
> The consensus seemed to be that
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 03:28:29PM -0800, John Cherry wrote:
> - Possible hosts mentioned were OSDL, freedesktop.org, launchpad.net,
^
The consensus seemed to be that LP was out because it's not independent
(it's a Canonical proj
On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 10:12 -0800, Dan Kegel wrote:
>
> The ISV documentation portal idea seems useful. I don't know if anyone's
> working on it. (Well, I'm trying to scrape together some content at
> http://kegel.com/wine/isv, but that's not a general portal.)
The ISV documentation portal was
Hello,
> And if Novell want an example of where this sort of thing has
> backfired before, I'll point out the wonderful Novell Linux Kernel
> Debugger, developed in-house behind closed doors, and never going to
> get merged into the mainline kernel as the community just didn't agree
> with it. Hop
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