On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 22:44 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Le jeudi 22 février 2007, à 10:20, John Cherry a écrit :
> > One of the topics coming up on the LF desktop workgroup agenda is the
> > planning and sponsorship of the next gathering of the Desktop Archit
Hi all,
The Linux Foundation (merger of OSDL and FSG) is moving the desktop
linux workgroup (DTL) into the LF desktop workgroup. This workgroup is
open to the community and will fit into the Linux Foundation mission of
promoting, protecting, and standardizing Linux.
I have set up a wiki page tha
Here is a quick update on the second wireless summit. Steve Hemminger
(OSDL) was the technical leader at the event and provided the following
summary/report:
http://lwn.net/Articles/219102/ (if you have an LWN account)
http://developer.osdl.org/shemminger/Wireless2/summary.html
The summit was ve
The following note has just gone out to those that participated in the
2006 OSDL Linux Client Survey. Along with the survey results, we posted
a "year in review" article that used the survey results as well as
feedback from many of the desktop architects on this list. There are no
big revelations
istinfo/desktop_amm
Those currently on this somewhat inactive list are:
Brian Cameron
John Cherry
Christian Schaller
Donya Shirzad
Daniel Yek
Motohiro Egota
Egbert Eich
Greg Wright
Hubert Figuiere
Jim McQuillan
Kevin DeKorte
Leon Shiman
Marc Miller
Scott Nelson
Tim Muller
Takashi Iwai
Waldo Bastia
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 13:53 -0500, Ira McDonald wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> EEEK!
You are right. The summary has been updated and uploaded to the wiki.
While common print dialogs will be a DAPI service, it should be listed
separately.
John
>
> "Common Print Dialogs" has now disappeared entirely (wa
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 10:36 -0700, Brett Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 17:40 -0800, John Cherry wrote:
> > I have uploaded the latest and greatest prep documents (the ones that I
> > have) up to the wiki.
>
> D'oh!
>
> John, I gave you my updated slide
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 11:02 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
>
> John Cherry wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 21:21 -0500, Jim McQuillan wrote:
> > Good talking point. As I recall, the 39% number comes to mind. Can you
> > remind me how you arrived at 39%?
>
> I
On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 19:59 -0500, Ira McDonald wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> If you could also add a link on the prep summaries page
> to a single ZIP file of the whole set, that would be VERY
> helpful for accessibility to a wider community - I'd forward
> that link to Printing and Internet standards ma
Hi all,
Thanks to all those that attended DAM-3 in Portland. It was great to
meet once again with the architects in the desktop community.
I have uploaded the latest and greatest prep documents (the ones that I
have) up to the wiki. There are a couple that I am missing (Gentoo and
a couple othe
Cliff Beshers could not attend DAM-3, but has the following material for
discussion at the meeting today...
Summary:
* we would like to see the vfat flush option and supermount go
into the mainline kernel
* we are working on a small kernel module that we hope will make
of food at the reception, so don't
feel like you have to have dinner before coming over.
See you in a couple hours.
John Cherry
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On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 17:59 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
> /. has news about OSDL layoffs. Does this have any impact on DAM-3 ?
The OSDL layoff doesn't impact DAM-3. I'm still here. DTL is still
here. And we are still planning to meet with some great people in
beautiful Portland in a couple of days
On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 14:30 -0800, Greg Wright wrote:
> See you all there.
Thanks. Your material is posted.
For those that have sent prep material, it should all be posted on the
wiki now.
http://developer.osdl.org/dev/desktop_architects/index.php/DAM-3_preparation_slides
If you still need to
The 2006 Linux Client Survey closed today. I included one question for
the desktop architects in the survey and here it is:
Where should the Linux desktop community focus their efforts in 2007?
Top Priority Important Good to have Lower priority
Audio/Multimedia 36%
Almond - IBM/ITSO
Rajesh Banginwar - LSB desktop
Steven Bartley - ltsp.org
Waldo Bastian - freedesktop.org; portland project
Jonathan Blandford - Red Hat
Shane Bryan - Mobile clients
John Cherry - OSDL Desktop Linux
Paul Davis - ALSA/sound
James Gettys - OLPC
Bernard Golden - Navisoft
Eric Harrison
Gentle reminder...DAM-3 prep material is due tomorrow. The material
received by tomorrow night will be included in the reference material
for the meetings.
http://developer.osdl.org/dev/desktop_architects/index.php/DAM-3_preparation_slides
John
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 14:14 -0800, John Cherry
://groups.osdl.org/apps/group_public/download.php/2916/prep_template_dam3.odp
See you all in Portland next week. Pay no attention to the news about
the snow in Portland. It will be beautiful here next week! :)
Once again, your prep material is needed by Friday, Dec 1.
Cheers,
John Cherry
OSDL Desktop Linux
The Wiki has been updated with the latest agenda for DAM-3. Note that
mobile desktop and wireless USB speakers have been moved to the working
lunch session on Thursday.
http://developer.osdl.org/dev/desktop_architects/index.php/Desktop_Architects_Meeting-3
Thursday - December 7
=
Kathy looked around the Portland area at activities and events that are
going on in town in the DAM-3 timeframe. It turns out that this is
quite an active civic time for holiday events. Check it out.
John
Holiday_Events_Schedule.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text
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The OSDL Desktop Linux working group is conducting an online Linux
Client Survey through December 1. The information from this survey will
assist the OSDL Desktop working group to focus on areas of development
that are important to you. The results of this survey may also be
valuable to your busine
Just a reminder. The DAM III preparation call is at 9AM (pacific)...in
about an hour.
Cheers,
John
On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 09:45 -0800, John Cherry wrote:
> Just a reminder that there will be two more DAM III preparation calls
> prior to the event on December 7-8.
>
> November 2,
As you can see from the DAM-3 agenda, audio/multimedia does not have a
prominent slot in the program.
http://groups.osdl.org/apps/group_public/download.php/2911/dam3.pdf
At DAM-1 and DAM-2, we had some reasonable discussions around
audio/multimedia, but we really didn't have all the right
archi
>
> Agenda:
> DAM-3 Agenda
>
> See
> http://developer.osdl.org/dev/desktop_architects/index.php/Desktop_Architects_Meeting-3
> Updated agenda to follow
>
Thursday, December 7
8:30 AM – Coffee / Setup / Seating
9:00 AM – Intro / Welcome - Stuart Cohen, OSDL
9:30 AM – Deskt
On Sun, 2006-10-08 at 20:30 +0200, Martin Konold wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 5. Oktober 2006 17:57 schrieb John Cherry:
>
> > The call is commencing...
>
> Is there a summary available?
The call was pretty short and concise. The meeting format for DAM-1 and
DAM-2 will be car
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 14:39 -0700, John Cherry wrote:
> The first DAM-3 planning conference call will be on Thursday, October 5
> at 9AM (pacific):
>
>Tollfree: 1-800-211-0633
>Toll: 1-719-867-0485
>Passcode: 942698
The call is commencin
dl.org/dev/desktop_architects/index.php/Main_Page#Announcement
Cheers,
John Cherry
OSDL DTL
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Thursday, October 5 at 9AM (pacific)
Tollfree: 1-800-211-0633
Toll: 1-719-867-0485
Passcode: 942698
Cheers from Dublin,
John Cherry
OSDL DTL
http://developer.osdl.org/dev/desktop_architects/index.php/Main_Page
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Just a reminder that the Printing Summit conference call is tomorrow
(Wednesday) at 9AM pacific. (see call info below)
This is a planning call for the second printing summit. The first
summit was held in Atlanta in April and the second summit will be held
in Lexington, Kentucky on Oct 23-26.
Thi
Hi all,
Planning is beginning for the third Desktop Architects Meeting. This
third meeting of the architects will build on the first two meetings in
Portland and Mainz where topics and focus areas included...
- ISV and developer support (Portland Project, developer portal)
- Open source (and mai
A quick plug for the Desktop Developers Conference (DDC) and the Ottawa
Linux Symposium (OLS), two back-to-back events in July. I have nothing
to gain by plugging these events other than to say that this is an
excellent opportunity for the "Destkop Development Community" to gather
outside of your
interfaces.
Cheers,
John Cherry
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p related activities
through September. The events listed here are key in establishing a
unified desktop community.
Cheers,
John Cherry
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> > So far we have focused heavily on the aches and pains of ISVs. Certainly
> > this is an importand issue. However from conversations that I have with
> > people out in the field I hear about issues that have not really been
> > mentioned here.
>
> can you share these with us?
Yes, I think
The schedule has been posted for the Desktop Developers Conference (July
17-18 in Ottawa).
http://www.desktopcon.org/2006/schedule.php
The speaking slots have been filled with a wider range of topics this
year and the intent is to close with breakout discussions on
cross-desktop application devel
Power Management Summit (TBD) - Portland, OR
Other Events NOT on the OSDL radar (yet)
June 28-30 GCC and GNU Toolchain Developers' Summit - Ottawa
Sept 11-13 OpenOffice.org Conference - Lyon, France
http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2006/
f the breakout group would be
appreciated.
Cheers,
John Cherry
OSDL DTL
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Direction check: broad support for Portland's goals
Call for action:
- Participate for testing on existing
pdate
the site with any last minute prep material on Sunday, but late prep
material will not be printed.
http://groups.osdl.org/apps/group_public/download.php/2378/DAM2-template.odp
See y'all in Mainz.
BTW, if you need to contact me by phone in Germany, my cell number is
503-545-2288.
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J
The following link shows the latest registered attendees for the DAM-2
meeting in Mainz. If you are planning to attend and are NOT on this
list, please register and let me know ASAP.
http://groups.osdl.org/apps/group_public/download.php/2451/dam2-roster3.pdf
Cheers,
John
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I am pleased to announce that one of our large OSDL DTL members has
volunteered to print the preparation material from Germany. This
magically moves out the deadline for the prep material to the end of the
day on Wednesday (two more days). Thanks to all those that have already
posted their materi
Software
Open Country
ETRI
LTSP
Template for prep material:
http://groups.osdl.org/apps/group_public/download.php/2378/DAM2-template.odp
Posted prep material:
http://groups.osdl.org/workgroups/dtl/desktop_architects/dam2
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also http://www.linuxtag.org/vcc/details.pl?id=357
Any desktop architects that are in the area are welcome to come to this
presentation and offer Waldo a little support.
http://groups.osdl.org/workgroups/dtl/desktop_architects/dam2
Cheers,
John Cherry
OSDL DTL
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 17:58 +0200, Till Kamppeter wrote:
> My slides are attached.
Thanks Till. Slides are uploaded and linked.
http://groups.osdl.org/workgroups/dtl/desktop_architects/dam2
Cheers,
John
>
>Till
>
>
> Bastian, Waldo wrote:
> > As with the previous Desktop Architects Meet
All of the DAM-2 updates (agenda, venue, logistics) discussed on the
planning call are now updated on the web page:
http://groups.osdl.org/workgroups/dtl/desktop_architects/dam2
Just a couple of event reminders:
Reception: Sunday Evening, May 7 - 7:00 pm
Eisgrub-brau (microbrewery)
and/or suggestions for the
agenda.
Cheers,
John Cherry
OSDL DTL Initiative Manager
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May 7 - Reception
-
7:00-9:00 Eisgrub-Brau (microbrewery) 7:00PM
May 8 - IBM TotalStorage Executive Briefing Center
The call is beginning.
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 17:06 -0700, John Cherry wrote:
> Just a reminder that the last DAM-2 planning call will be in the morning
> (Thusday) at 8AM (pacific). Sorry for the late reminder.
>
> Date/Time: Thursday, April 27, 8AM (pacific)
> Phone:
Preparation material that is completed and sent to the
desktop_architects mailing list by Monday will be included in the
printed material for the meeting.
Talk to you in the morning.
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>
> IBM TotalStorage Executive Briefing Center
> Hechtscheimer Strasse 2
> 55131 Mainz
> Germany
Good catch Till. European addresses can be confusing for some of us.
The site is updated.
http://groups.osdl.org/workgroups/dtl/desktop_architects/dam2
John
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On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 11:14 -0700, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> hi all..
>
> from the "what the heck is taking him so bloody long?!" department comes the
> HTML versions of the documents. they are pretty plain jane, but this way
> individual projects can integrate them easily into their website's loo
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 09:10 -0800, Dan Kegel wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm giving talks about Desktop Linux and Wine this weekend.
> A draft of the slides are up at
> http://kegel.com/linux/scale4/ and
> http://kegel.com/wine/scale4/
>
> Comments welcome... there's still time to fix 'em.
For laptops, y
On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 13:15 +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
wrote:
> Isn't this list about figuring out and solving issues related to ISP's
> wanting their applications to run on Linux desktops? Having people chime
> up with their favorite open source application every time a Windows
> ap
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 13:47 -0800, Jon Walker wrote:
> John Cherry wrote:
>
> >On a related note, is anyone aware of a place where users could go to
> >find open source alternatives to these applications? I'm not talking
> >about googling for projects or scanning the
> >
> Why not simply ask the ISVs? Why doesn't OSDL start another survey which
> asks all the big and small ISVs what the need to port their applications
> to Linux? Okay I'll start a list of questions for such a survey at
> "http://wyoguide.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/OSDL_survey_for_ISVs";.
>
Just a note to say that the open drivers site is progressing with more
content and the wiki format provides a way to document your favorite
drivers.
An example of useful developer information regarding writing drivers,
submitting patches, and understanding the driver model is found in the
docume
On Friday, Dave Rosenberg posted and opinion article entitled, "Desktop
Linux: If we build it, will they come?"
I don't want to feed the troll, but one of the responses to the article
pretty clearly summarized the responses we received...
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"One of the biggest desktop Linux in
We are in the early stages of planning for the second Desktop Architects
Meeting. As mentioned at DAM-1, participants wanted the DAM-2 to be
held in Europe.
The OSDL Joint Initiative Face to Face meetings will be held in Cannes,
France on May 10-12 (Wed-Fri). We are looking into grabbing Monday
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 23:40 +, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 03:28:29PM -0800, John Cherry wrote:
> > - Possible hosts mentioned were OSDL, freedesktop.org, launchpad.net,
> ^
> The consens
uld probably move further discussions about the portal to the
developer_portal mailing list to prevent clutter on this list.
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be on the site. Feedback is welcome, but not much will
happen on the site until the New Year.
I want to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas as we reflect back on a
really good year for the desktop Linux community.
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On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 09:10 +0100, Martin Konold wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 15. Dezember 2005 18:00 schrieb Dan Kegel:
>
> Hi,
>
> > On 12/15/05, George Staikos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Can we make this list invite-only for subscription and member-only
> > > posting? Signal:noise ratio is dr
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 14:02 -0700, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Thursday 15 December 2005 10:34, John Cherry wrote:
> > So again, if you are not a desktop architect committed to addressing
> > these common focus areas, please remove yourself from this list.
>
> i propose that
velop applications across desktops/distributions/toolsets,
supporting desktop hardware with open source (mainlined) drivers, and
some process items around moving desktop specifications to standards.
So again, if you are not a desktop architect committed to addressing
these common focus areas, please remov
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