Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-30 Thread Andrea Cosentino
Yes, go ahead please. Thanks. Il giorno lun 31 ago 2020 alle ore 08:13 Luca Burgazzoli < lburgazz...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hi, > > Should we start an official vote ? > > --- > Luca Burgazzoli > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:08 PM Omar Al-Safi wrote: > > > I'd also give my vote on this: > > >

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-30 Thread Luca Burgazzoli
Hi, Should we start an official vote ? --- Luca Burgazzoli On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:08 PM Omar Al-Safi wrote: > I'd also give my vote on this: > > +1 zulip > -1 gitter > 0 slack > > Regards > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:40 PM Claus Ibsen wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Thanks for the zulip testing

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-27 Thread Omar Al-Safi
I'd also give my vote on this: +1 zulip -1 gitter 0 slack Regards On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:40 PM Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > Thanks for the zulip testing experience. > > +1 for zulip > -1 for slack > 0 for staying on gitter > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:16 PM Luca Burgazzoli > wrote: >

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-27 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi Thanks for the zulip testing experience. +1 for zulip -1 for slack 0 for staying on gitter On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:16 PM Luca Burgazzoli wrote: > > So I've created a new Zulip organization for testing purposes here: > https://camel-test.zulipchat.com (I've named it camel-test as there's

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-21 Thread Luca Burgazzoli
So I've created a new Zulip organization for testing purposes here: https://camel-test.zulipchat.com (I've named it camel-test as there's an option to import gitter chats but can be done only for new organization) Anyone should be able to join using github/gitlab/google, by mail or with an invitati

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-21 Thread Zoran Regvart
Never mind, found the answer in the second link you posted: https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/ “Free hosting at zulip.com. The hosting is supported by (and is identical to) zulip.com’s commercial offerings. This offer extends to any community involved in supporting free and open source soft

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-21 Thread Zoran Regvart
Hi Luca, are you referring to “Funds the Zulip open source project“? I read that as “it provides funding to Zulip project”. zoran -- Sent from mobile > On 21. Aug 2020, at 10:07, Luca Burgazzoli wrote: > > --- > Luca Burgazzoli > > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Zoran Regvart wrote: >

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-21 Thread Luca Burgazzoli
There's some information [¹] about what it is supported and what it is coming, like support for search engine [1] https://zulipchat.com/for/open-source/ --- Luca Burgazzoli On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:47 AM Alex Dettinger wrote: > No strong opinion about which one is the best. > However, I fin

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-21 Thread Alex Dettinger
No strong opinion about which one is the best. However, I find it interesting that gitter conversations could be included in search engine results (at least google). However, I don't know if we would have this with Zulip or Slack. On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:11 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote: > Ma

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Maybe it would be great to have a test period of zulip. I never used it, so, I can’t say if it’s good or not. So, maybe experimenting a bit to have feedback would be great. Regards JB > Le 21 août 2020 à 10:07, Luca Burgazzoli a écrit : > > --- > Luca Burgazzoli > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 a

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-21 Thread Luca Burgazzoli
--- Luca Burgazzoli On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Zoran Regvart wrote: > Hi Cameleers, > I also think Gitter is a bit hard to follow, especially when there are > a lot of messages flowing by (reminds me of IRC). > > I do wonder how Zulip would be set up, I don't see an OpenSource plan > on zu

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-21 Thread Peter Palaga
+1 for Zulip -1 for Slack -1 for Gitter Thanks, -- Peter On 20/08/2020 13:12, Luca Burgazzoli wrote: Hello, Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on the various camel projects and overall the user experience was quite terrible for me (in particular when using the

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Zoran Regvart
Hi Cameleers, I also think Gitter is a bit hard to follow, especially when there are a lot of messages flowing by (reminds me of IRC). I do wonder how Zulip would be set up, I don't see an OpenSource plan on zulipchat.com[1] and I don't think it's good practice for an open source community to lose

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi, Personal standpoint is … personal ;) Personally I hate gitter ;) About the way of joining The-ASF Slack, I remember INFRA change the policy. I think we can always ask for infra to "open join". Regards JB > Le 20 août 2020 à 14:48, Andrea Cosentino a écrit : > > Hello JB, > > Slack is no

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Andrea Cosentino
Hello JB, Slack is not usable at all for me and this is a personal feeling. Other reason is the need of using a google or apache.org account, while you should be able to join with github or gitlab or whatever. Il giorno gio 20 ago 2020 alle ore 14:42 Jean-Baptiste Onofre < j...@nanthrax.net> ha

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi Andrea, What are your arguments for -1 about Slack ? Same as Luca ? Regards JB > Le 20 août 2020 à 14:06, Andrea Cosentino a écrit : > > +1 for zulip, -1 for Slack. > > Il gio 20 ago 2020, 13:38 Onder SEZGIN ha scritto: > >> Hi, >> >> To be honest i am a bit lost with gitter. i can not

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Luca Burgazzoli
Yes but you either need to use a Google account or you need to have an @ apache.org mail address or get an invitation, not a huge deal but having the option to join with github/gitlab is IMHO a good thing. --- Luca Burgazzoli On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 2:18 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofre wrote: > Hi, >

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi, Anyone can join now afair. Anyway, for sure gitter is not convenient IMHO, the UI is horrible and the iOS/Android clients are so so. We use Slack in bunch of Apache project and it’s good enough to me. Regards JB > Le 20 août 2020 à 14:14, Luca Burgazzoli a écrit : > > The main reason no

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Luca Burgazzoli
--- Luca Burgazzoli On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:37 PM Omar Al-Safi wrote: > Hi Luca, > > Yes is true, gitter clients on Android and iOS not the best, also zulip > looks nice, however my concerns would be the maintenance overhead, we have > now gitter and mailing list which is enough I think. If w

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi, I would go for Slack @The-ASF, it’s the "official" slack for Apache project, and we already have a room for Camel. Regards JB > Le 20 août 2020 à 13:12, Luca Burgazzoli a écrit : > > Hello, > > Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on the > various camel proje

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Luca Burgazzoli
The main reason not to use Slack - IMHO - is that is not straightforward to join using one of the account most of the people already have --- Luca Burgazzoli On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:36 PM Francois Papon wrote: > Hi, > > Why not using the ASF Slack workspace? > > There is an existing Camel ch

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Andrea Cosentino
Anyway the main concern for me is how to follow every possible channel. It's already hard now Il gio 20 ago 2020, 14:09 Djordje Bajić ha scritto: > On Gitter is very hard to follow what people are writing. * > > > Sorry for the spam, accidentally hit enter. > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 2:08 PM

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Djordje Bajić
On Gitter is very hard to follow what people are writing. * Sorry for the spam, accidentally hit enter. On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 2:08 PM Djordje Bajić wrote: > +1 Zulip. > > On Gitter is very hard to follow what > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 2:06 PM Andrea Cosentino > wrote: > >> +1 for zulip,

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Djordje Bajić
+1 Zulip. On Gitter is very hard to follow what On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 2:06 PM Andrea Cosentino wrote: > +1 for zulip, -1 for Slack. > > Il gio 20 ago 2020, 13:38 Onder SEZGIN ha scritto: > > > Hi, > > > > To be honest i am a bit lost with gitter. i can not really follow. > > that's a quite g

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Andrea Cosentino
+1 for zulip, -1 for Slack. Il gio 20 ago 2020, 13:38 Onder SEZGIN ha scritto: > Hi, > > To be honest i am a bit lost with gitter. i can not really follow. > that's a quite good suggestion. > i have been using slack a lot. > i tried zulip quite a while ago when i did not like but maybe there is

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Onder SEZGIN
Hi, To be honest i am a bit lost with gitter. i can not really follow. that's a quite good suggestion. i have been using slack a lot. i tried zulip quite a while ago when i did not like but maybe there is an improvement. i don,t know. worth trying. just my 2 cents. Onder On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 a

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Omar Al-Safi
Hi Luca, Yes is true, gitter clients on Android and iOS not the best, also zulip looks nice, however my concerns would be the maintenance overhead, we have now gitter and mailing list which is enough I think. If we introduce a third tool, this could be annoying to keep track of, is just my persona

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Francois Papon
Hi, Why not using the ASF Slack workspace? There is an existing Camel channel. regards, François fpa...@apache.org Le 20/08/2020 à 13:12, Luca Burgazzoli a écrit : > Hello, > > Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on the > various camel projects and overall the us

Re: Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Dmitry Volodin
Hi Luca! +1 for Zulip. Have experience to use it in Infinispan -- Best regards, Dmitry Volodin чт, 20 авг. 2020 г. в 14:12, Luca Burgazzoli : > Hello, > > Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on the > various camel projects and overall the user experience was quit

Alternatives to gitter

2020-08-20 Thread Luca Burgazzoli
Hello, Over the past months I've been trying to be more active on gitter on the various camel projects and overall the user experience was quite terrible for me (in particular when using the mobile client), as example: - threads are not shown properly on the iOS client thus messages are messing