Interesting question.
In terms of tooling, we show how to setup with Eclipse, or IDEA. We do have
links to Google projects for components directly related to them (such as gae,
or gauth). For the mail component we do mention "using mock-mail for testing"
(one could also look at dependencies in
> Many spammers can make a case that at least some of their audience may
> benefit from viagra.
Is there a generic version of viagra that Camel can adopt as a component?
I'd asked about this in another email...Would the Tools page be
suitable for listing external products that could be used for
"some draconian policy "
Well, I feel you're twisting mine.
Fine, let's make it very simple then. Can we use some common sense in
advertising for products and services?
Many spammers can make a case that at least some of their audience may benefit
from viagra.
Hadrian
On May 4, 2011, at 10:3
Agreed. Folks are always asking how things like Camel compares to X.
On 4 May 2011 15:33, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
>> Mule is also an open source project and that had more of a relevance when
>> Camel started and was a Mule competitor. That pag
On 4 May 2011 15:24, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Mule is also an open source project and that had more of a relevance when
> Camel started and was a Mule competitor. That page can go away too.
>
> As James brilliantly stated: let's think of the Camel user's needs and
> address them. For needs that
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Mule is also an open source project and that had more of a relevance when
> Camel started and was a Mule competitor. That page can go away too.
>
I think thats a mistake.
As a person who goes to conferences and give talks about Camel. I h
Mule is also an open source project and that had more of a relevance when Camel
started and was a Mule competitor. That page can go away too.
As James brilliantly stated: let's think of the Camel user's needs and address
them. For needs that go beyond a developer's need to understand and use Cam
+1
It's actually *that* simple. Let's just think of Camel users. Camel users don't
need links to 3rd party products/services to learn how to use Camel.
The links to the dzone article and the Camel in Action book were not removed,
and shouldn't be!
I only removed duplicates. No need to have them
+1 to adding links to 3rd party products in the Tools section (maybe with one
sentence short description)
+1 to the grace period till end of June
The mission and policies (written or not) of the ASF are certainly clear to
some PMC members. One great mind added this FAQ entry [1] on May 10, 2007,
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:27:31 AM Daniel Kulp wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:21:54 AM Rob Davies wrote:
.
> > I would like to propose that from now on all links to 3rd party
> > distributions or usages of Apache Camel in a 3rd party product are put
> > into (but not limited to) the f
Agreed. I think we need to step back a little and think a little more
about our users first and helping them get started with Apache Camel;
figuring out guidelines on which pages can/can't have a link to an
external document comes second.
On 4 May 2011 14:17, Jon Anstey wrote:
> Yeah, come to thi
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:21:54 AM Rob Davies wrote:
> I've corresponded with Hadrian about this off list.
>
> Whilst I understand the sentiment, this policy certainly wasn't clear to me
> or other PMC members. Whilst there are occasional links to external
> information, mainly at FuseSource,
Yeah, come to think of it, the FAQ area is a good place for these kind of
common questions: how does Camel compare to Fuse MR, how does Camel compare
to Talend IF, how does Camel compare to Mule, etc etc. +1 on keeping those
FAQ entries from before.
As far as the getting started page goes, I don't
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
> I've corresponded with Hadrian about this off list.
>
> Whilst I understand the sentiment, this policy certainly wasn't clear to me
> or other PMC members. Whilst there are occasional links to external
> information, mainly at FuseSource, thes
I think Books and Getting Started are great too - I would hate to see them
deleted
On 4 May 2011, at 08:48, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
>> I've corresponded with Hadrian about this off list.
>>
>> Whilst I understand the sentiment, this policy certainl
Hi Claus,
I think the getting started guides should focus on camel. So a link to
getting started with Fuse Mediation Router is at least a bit confusing
for people. On the other hand I also sometimes refer to Talend
Integration Factory examples when people have problems that are solved
in one
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Rob Davies wrote:
> I've corresponded with Hadrian about this off list.
>
> Whilst I understand the sentiment, this policy certainly wasn't clear to me
> or other PMC members. Whilst there are occasional links to external
> information, mainly at FuseSource, thes
I've corresponded with Hadrian about this off list.
Whilst I understand the sentiment, this policy certainly wasn't clear to me or
other PMC members. Whilst there are occasional links to external information,
mainly at FuseSource, these are historical and done in the context of providing
infor
thanks Dan - I can remember that conversation on cxf lists - but can't remember
seeing anything like that for Camel ?
On 3 May 2011, at 18:29, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:11:12 PM Rob Davies wrote:
>> Hi Hadrian,
>>
>> can you add some more info - I can't find the original t
On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:11:12 PM Rob Davies wrote:
> Hi Hadrian,
>
> can you add some more info - I can't find the original thread on this
I'm not sure about on Camel, but it's likely around the time of the similar
discussion on the CXF list:
http://cxf.547215.n5.nabble.com/Re-CONF-Apache-CX
Hi Hadrian,
can you add some more info - I can't find the original thread on this
thanks,
Rob
On 3 May 2011, at 16:52, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> No, there are things that are not up to the community to decide. I drew
> attention when some changes were made that that was a mistake and my
> impr
No, there are things that are not up to the community to decide. I drew
attention when some changes were made that that was a mistake and my impression
was that the point was well taken. I also mentioned that if changes won't be
removed by their authors I will. That was months ago. If anything,
Hi
This post is addressed to Hadrian who has been deleting and editing
web pages from Apache Camel (today),
which seems to be related to the fact those pages had information about Fuse.
I would like to call out that such actions should have been discussed
in the public at first and agreed upon by
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