Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Marc Portier dijo:
some attempt/proposal:
definition-model declares field:
case A: nothing special - defaults to read-write
case B: as being read-only
case C: specific as read-write
binding declared on field
case 1: nothing special - defaults to inherited from the
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
Guido has done a lot of work for the new WebDAV block, providing a first
implementation of the WebDAV Source, fixes for related Cocoon components
and a hell of a lot of samples and
For a long discussion about Hibernate versus JDO see a recent discussion on
www.theserverside.com.
Hugo
-Original Message-
From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 29 juli 2003 22:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hibernate vs. OJB
Leszek Gawron dijo:
cziegeler2003/07/30 01:21:25
Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/selection ExceptionSelector.java
Removed: src/java/org/apache/cocoon/selection
JXPathExceptionSelector.java
Log:
Removing obsolete JXPathExceptioSelector
Fixing NPE in ExceptionSelector
Volker Schmitt wrote:
Anyway, I think I found the real bug and it is in the ExceptionSelector
line 185:
public boolean select(String expression, Object selectorContext) {
// Just compare the expression with the previously found name
boolean result = expression.equals
Gianugo Rabellino wrote, On 30/07/2003 9.13:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
Guido has done a lot of work
...
Please cast your votes.
+1
--
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- verba volant, scripta manent -
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
Guido has done a lot of work for the new WebDAV block, providing a
first implementation of the WebDAV Source, fixes for related Cocoon
components and a hell of a lot of samples and
Guido has done a lot of work
...
Please cast your votes.
+1
Matthew
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
Guido has done a lot of work for the new WebDAV block, providing a
first implementation of the WebDAV Source, fixes for related Cocoon
components and a hell of a lot of samples and
On 30/07/2003 0:13 Michael Wechner wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:
If it comes to (a) vote(s), anybody's opinion is appreciated, so
please speak up. Binding votes about the Cocoon guidelines can be cast
by Cocoon committers only - the original members of the 'founding' PMC
that is.
I guess
+1 for both.
Matthew
On Tuesday, Jul 29, 2003, at 18:00 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Another thing to keep in mind is that if everybody starts developing
2.2 and nobody works on 2.1+, then it makes sense to copy all of the
blocks to 2.2 as well, and 2.1 will
On Tuesday, Jul 29, 2003, at 17:28 Europe/Rome, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Careful here: I never said that a symmetrical design is bad
(actually, I love when designs become symmetrical), what is bad is
symmetry-driven design.
The design should be done driven by the
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
Guido has done a lot of work for the new WebDAV block, providing a first
implementation of the WebDAV Source, fixes for related Cocoon components
and a hell of a lot of samples and
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
This calls for binding-specific validators that know both the
application model and the form model. I proposed to add XPath predicates
to the binding for this purpose. E.g :
wb:field id=foo-field path=foo
wb:validate
wb:assert test=java:validateFoo($currentBean,
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
Please cast your votes. Here is my +1.
+1
--David
Hi:
I am trying to build a MVC model using Cocoon. I drafted an initial
diagram of how it can be. I prefered to post a image because this can be a
better overview of the proposed MVC model under cocoon.
On the Woody part I feel is poor defined because I don't get a deep look
inside Woody. But
Sylvain Wallez dijo:
Not a problem, since wb:assert is just a particular implementation of
Validator. So what about :
wb:validate
wb:auto-validate-using-business-model/
/wb:validate
Hmm. At the first look it is great for people starting writing from now
the beans! But, ... :(
I see a
Sylvain Wallez dijo:
I think you missed the real meaning of my post : since validators are
pluggable, you can write you own and do whatever you want in it !
Cocoon should provide the most useful and generic implementations, but
it does not lock with the provides implementations.
Opps. You
On 30/07/2003 11:25 Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release
of Apache Cocoon.
... which was again a masterly execution of the
CaRsTeN-3000-meepzoid-release-bot. Thanks!
/Steven
--
Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Marc Portier wrote:
there is a sample now doing that, above statement leaves it
unclear if you tried that or not
No, not yet.
if I understand what you are saying, then you would want to have
the form definition (structure, fields, datatypes and convertors)
deduced
Hi:
Congratulations!
By the way, It is amazing! Nice marketing :)
Antonio Gallardo
Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release
of Apache Cocoon.
Check out the Cocoon website http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1 for more
information.
Apache Cocoon is an XML
Marc Portier wrote:
SNIP/
So what you are adding to the show is that the datatype
(basetype) setting of the widget should be possibly derived from
the binding path into the business object?
Yes.
now (currently) the form-model building happens before the
business object is there, so
cziegeler2003/07/30 03:24:44
Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/webapps/portal/components
PortalManager.java
Log:
Applying patch for the double-click bug from Hartmut Zimmermann ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Revision ChangesPath
1.2 +13 -3
cziegeler2003/07/30 03:25:37
Modified:src/blocks/portal-fw/java/org/apache/cocoon/webapps/portal/components
PortalManager.java
Log:
Applying patch for the double-click bug from Hartmut Zimmermann ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Revision ChangesPath
1.8
On 30/07/2003 11:25 Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
The Apache Cocoon team is proud to announce the new release
of Apache Cocoon.
I went in afterwards and edited README.html, .htaccess and HEADER.html
in order to downsize and rationalize the download area
(http://www.apache.org/dist/cocoon/) - please
Steven Noels wrote:
I went in afterwards and edited README.html, .htaccess and HEADER.html
in order to downsize and rationalize the download area
(http://www.apache.org/dist/cocoon/) - please crosscheck.
Thanks! great!
Carsten, I found some files (a symlink) which aren't chmod g+w - could
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Sylvain Wallez dijo:
Not a problem, since wb:assert is just a particular implementation of
Validator. So what about :
wb:validate
wb:auto-validate-using-business-model/
/wb:validate
Hmm. At the first look it is great for people starting
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
The amazing thing is, you will be able to find this announcement from
http://jakarta.apache.org/
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030730.1
in a few hours, too.
Can somebody writeup something in our news? Jakarta will have our
news, and our news won't... Hm
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
I think you missed the real meaning of my post : since validators are
pluggable, you can write you own and do whatever you want in it !
Cocoon should provide the most useful and generic implementations,
but it does not
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
+1
Cheers,
Reinhard
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Marc Portier wrote
snip /
Hmm, ok, caching does not prevent to have some dynamic elements
in it. You can cache, let's say 89%, and 11% are calculated dynamically.
agree, I guess you just need to come up with the obvious case
that makes us understand where to draw the
This would be quite long, sometimes OT but I think it will finally get to my
point which is: providing persistence in flow by basing only on O/R tool is not
enough.
OR mapping tool is OK if you have got a _static_ database schema but imagine
you have to write an application that collects
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Marc Portier dijo:
I can't see a need for a field that should be 'calculated
automatically' AND be editable at the same time.
(I tried though)
It sometimes happens, for example here in my country, in a restaurant
invoice is a non written rule to pay 10% of the subtotal
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Hugo Burm dijo:
For a long discussion about Hibernate versus JDO see a recent discussion
on www.theserverside.com.
Hi:
Can you point to a more specific page? :)
I guess this is the one:
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
+1
Vadim
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Hi:
I am trying to build a MVC model using Cocoon. I drafted an initial
diagram of how it can be. I prefered to post a image because this can be a
better overview of the proposed MVC model under cocoon.
nice diagram
maybe some of the diagrams (bruno-art) in the
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Marc Portier wrote
I think this has to be changed :) It should be done dynamically when
the form is rendered.
this is fundamentally different to how it is done now
we seem to think there is some advantage for 'caching' the
form-definition and instantiating the
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Carsten, I think you need to know a bit of the internals of Woody.
Yes, definitly!
For a
single element of the form definition file, say wd:field, 3 classes
are involved in its processing :
- FieldDefinitionBuilder : analyzes the wd:field element and from its
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
snip/
So, actually the Widget Tree is created dynamically when needed. Now, is it possible to hook into the building of this tree?
You can write your own WidgetDefinition implementation : you can then
put any code that will be executed each time a form instance will
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
snip/
So, actually the Widget Tree is created dynamically when needed.
Now, is it possible to hook into the building of this tree?
You can write your own WidgetDefinition implementation : you can then
put any code that will be
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
+1
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Marc Portier wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
snip/
Validators currently exist only for datatypes, and not yet for
bindings (this is on my todo list).
yep, some nuance though:
there should be only one validation cycle!
what I mean is:
- we probably do want to be able to
joerg 2003/07/30 08:20:10
Modified:src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/flow tutor.xml
Log:
made it valid: there was a 'n' between header/ and body/
code formatting
Revision ChangesPath
1.3 +226 -189 cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/flow/tutor.xml
joerg 2003/07/30 08:21:09
Modified:src/targets forrest-build.xml
Log:
we need the 'jars.xml' for target 'forrest' - it's not there after build clean
Revision ChangesPath
1.9 +1 -1 cocoon-2.1/src/targets/forrest-build.xml
Index: forrest-build.xml
joerg 2003/07/30 08:22:10
Modified:src/documentation skinconf.xml
Log:
added missing Cocoon project logo
Revision ChangesPath
1.5 +3 -3 cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/skinconf.xml
Index: skinconf.xml
joerg 2003/07/30 08:22:28
Added: src/documentation/images cocoon-project-logo.png
Log:
added missing Cocoon project logo
Revision ChangesPath
1.1 cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/images/cocoon-project-logo.png
Binary file
joerg 2003/07/30 08:28:46
Modified:src/webapp/WEB-INF logkit.xconf
Log:
fixed redundancy (spotted by Antonio Gallardo)
Revision ChangesPath
1.5 +0 -6 cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/WEB-INF/logkit.xconf
Index: logkit.xconf
Fixed.
Thanks,
Joerg
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Marc Portier wrote:
snip
the expression language support in woody is currently the one Bruno
first applied into XReporter (http://xreporter.cocoondev.org) there is
already some jxpath support (but only in the template files) and there
was at least one suggesting jexl (above client-side
http://blog.xesoft.com/jon.lipsky/blog/Java/?permalink=workflow_viewlets.html
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- verba volant, scripta manent -
(discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
Leszek Gawron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This would be quite long, sometimes OT but I think it will
finally get to my point which is: providing persistence in
flow by basing only on O/R tool is not enough.
I think this depends on what you mean by an O/R tool? Clearly (with SQL
3) O/R
Hi, im havinf some trouble creating a Generator in XSP and after that
aplying a transformer in XSL, the problem is, that i am not able to parse
the XML returned by the generator with the transformer.
--
Generator
reinhard2003/07/30 11:19:38
Modified:src/webapp/samples/flow/calc calc.js
Log:
- fixing bug
Revision ChangesPath
1.4 +1 -1 cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/samples/flow/calc/calc.js
Index: calc.js
===
Hi!
What's the intention behind creating different CVS repositories for
different major releases?
Perhaps I'm missing something, but aren't branches and release tags the
mechanism to manage this things in CVS?
I'm asking because changing the repository has several consequences.
Here are some
* x: Major version number
* y: Minor version number
* z: Patch level
it's not only that easy, I would say that java 1.2 and 1.4 are also
majors! - just an example.
Christoph
- Original Message -
From: Andreas Hochsteger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July
No!
This is the wrong URL (but an interesting thread anyway). Your URL is about
the introduction of Hibernate 1.2
I was pointing to an URL that is listed on the front page of the site:
http://www.theserverside.com/discussion/thread.jsp?thread_id=19732
It is about the introduction of Hibernate
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
Thanks Gianugo, I'm really honoured.
I'm extremely proud of being part of this great community (even without
having commit access), where I consider many of the committers real genius
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:04, Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Marc Portier wrote:
snip
the expression language support in woody is currently the one Bruno
first applied into XReporter (http://xreporter.cocoondev.org) there is
already some jxpath support (but only in the template files) and
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Hi team,
I'd like to propose two people for Cocoon committership : Ugo Cei and
Marc Portier.
Ugo has been there for years (the archives show his first post back in
July 2000!), has been an early adopter of flowscript and wrote the first
Cocoon-based blogging tool.
Marc
- Original Message -
From: Hugo Burm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: Hibernate vs. OJB
OK, I have to admit, I did this on purpose (mentioning the front page
instead of the exact URL), because there are some more interesting
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Andreas Hochsteger wrote:
Hi!
A short question comes to my mind, while reading your RT:
Is it possible to use data types which are composed of several HTML
input fields?
We are currently using three input fields for dates (day, month, year)
at our current form solution.
No, not currently...
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I want to propose Guido Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as a new Cocoon
committer.
Please cast your votes. Here is my +1.
+1
Andrew.
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Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Marc Portier wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
snip /
agree totally: that is the crux!
(maybe we should change the binding word: this validation is
business-model specific)
the main thing to note is that this specific validation will also be
executed during the
Marc Portier dijo:
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Marc Portier dijo:
I can't see a need for a field that should be 'calculated
automatically' AND be editable at the same time.
(I tried though)
It sometimes happens, for example here in my country, in a restaurant
invoice is a non written rule to
Contribution form: a series of contribution payments is precalculated.
User may override the amount of any payment in the series by entering a
different number in the text widget (as long as the payments still add
up to the original total). To enhance usability, similar logic is used
in
Hello
Have recently started using woody+hibernate+flow and absolutely love it.
One thing I don't like however is how items in a repeater-widget is
removed. I've made a small change to my woody.js and wondered if you're
interested. I'll supply a patch if you are (although I might need some
vgritsenko2003/07/30 19:55:15
Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/store
JispFilesystemStore.java
Log:
Fix eternal loop in the iterator (fix backported from excalibur).
Revision ChangesPath
1.3 +38 -31
vgritsenko2003/07/30 20:19:10
Modified:.cocoon.bat
Log:
cleanup EXEC variable
Revision ChangesPath
1.13 +2 -2 cocoon-2.1/cocoon.bat
Index: cocoon.bat
===
RCS file:
vgritsenko2003/07/30 20:20:07
Modified:src/documentation/xdocs/developing/portal index.xml
Log:
add p/ placeholders under chapters. it looks better this way.
Revision ChangesPath
1.6 +152 -140 cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs/developing/portal/index.xml
vgritsenko2003/07/30 20:20:37
Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon Processor.java
Log:
typo
Revision ChangesPath
1.4 +2 -2 cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/Processor.java
Index: Processor.java
vgritsenko2003/07/30 20:43:24
Removed: src/scratchpad/src/org/apache/cocoon/storejanitor
StoreJanitorImpl.java
Log:
Adaptive interval calculation is now in excalibur
vgritsenko2003/07/30 20:45:24
Removed: src/scratchpad/src/org/apache/cocoon/storejanitor
StoreJanitorImpl.java
Log:
Adaptive interval calculation is now in excalibur
vgritsenko2003/07/30 20:51:18
Modified:src/webapp/stylesheets/system status2html.xslt
Log:
Use generate-id() instead of name. Name has duplicates.
Revision ChangesPath
1.6 +28 -27cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/stylesheets/system/status2html.xslt
Index:
vgritsenko2003/07/30 20:54:22
Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/pipeline
AbstractProcessingPipeline.java
src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/pipeline/impl
AbstractCachingProcessingPipeline.java
vgritsenko2003/07/30 21:25:48
Modified:src/webapp/samples/xsp sitemap.xmap
Log:
add views
Revision ChangesPath
1.3 +20 -0 cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/samples/xsp/sitemap.xmap
Index: sitemap.xmap
vgritsenko2003/07/30 21:26:53
Modified:src/webapp/WEB-INF cocoon.xconf
Log:
* sun's 64mb is less then 64mb
* increase free memory to 2mb
* new janitor parameter
Revision ChangesPath
1.24 +6 -3 cocoon-2.1/src/webapp/WEB-INF/cocoon.xconf
Index:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
http://blog.xesoft.com/jon.lipsky/blog/Java/?permalink=workflow_viewlets.html
Have you seen one from the BEA's Workshop (8.1)? They've got workflow
editor and pageflow (struts app) gui editor.
Vadim
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=8826
Good morning, all.
/Steven
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Hi!
I have to tell you that this thread is really a pleasure.
It's really amazing what 'shared neurons' (like Marc called it) are
possible to do ;-)
I often have the feeling that while reading a message some ideas come to
my mind and recognize that in the next post they are already covered.
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