Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-29 Thread Phil Steitz
Original message >>> From: Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> >>> Date: 10/25/2015 3:15 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> >>> Subject: Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons, >>> >>>>

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-29 Thread Dave Brosius
ommons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> Subject: Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons, On 10/2/15 12:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: Well, a champion can volunteer to shepherd this through our incubator I suppose, OK, I will volunteer to do this. I propose that we start this as a Com

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-29 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
l > >> > >>> On 10/25/15 12:25 PM, dbrosIus wrote: > >>> +1 and git please > >>> > >>> Original message > >>> From: Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> > >>> Date: 10/25/2015 3:15 PM (GMT-05:00)

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-28 Thread Phil Steitz
05:00) > To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons, > > On 10/2/15 12:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: >> Well, a champion can volunteer to shepherd this through our incubator I >> suppose, > OK,

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-26 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi folks, I basically agree here with Bernd * the project needs clean-up * I think the idea is worthwhile * having something similar to “grok” as a stand-alone package together with a programmatic approach to build regexp could be the way to go * there is no community around so I think

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-26 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/26/15 4:04 AM, Siegfried Goeschl wrote: > Hi folks, > > I basically agree here with Bernd > > * the project needs clean-up > * I think the idea is worthwhile > * having something similar to “grok” as a stand-alone package together with a > programmatic approach to build regexp could be

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 10/25/15 3:53 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Let's see, would we run this through the Apache Incubator or could we > > simply run it through our Commons Sandbox and then up to Commons itself? > I think we can just start

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-25 Thread Gary Gregory
Let's see, would we run this through the Apache Incubator or could we simply run it through our Commons Sandbox and then up to Commons itself? Gayr On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Javin Paul wrote: > @ Siegfried Goeschl > > Having retired computer scientists turn to

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Am Sun, 25 Oct 2015 15:58:28 -0700 schrieb Phil Steitz : > On 10/25/15 3:53 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Let's see, would we run this through the Apache Incubator or could > > we simply run it through our Commons Sandbox and then up to Commons > > itself? > I think we can

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/25/15 3:53 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Let's see, would we run this through the Apache Incubator or could we > simply run it through our Commons Sandbox and then up to Commons itself? I think we can just start in the sandbox, following the Incubator IP clearance process as we have done before.

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-25 Thread Gary Gregory
+1 and it seems Git is too popular to avoid. Gary On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 10/2/15 12:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Well, a champion can volunteer to shepherd this through our incubator I > > suppose, > > OK, I will volunteer to do this.

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > Am Sun, 25 Oct 2015 15:58:28 -0700 > schrieb Phil Steitz : > > > On 10/25/15 3:53 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > > Let's see, would we run this through the Apache Incubator or could > > > we

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/2/15 12:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Well, a champion can volunteer to shepherd this through our incubator I > suppose, OK, I will volunteer to do this. I propose that we start this as a Commons Sandbox project. To do that, we need a VOTE to accept the code, a software grant and the IP

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-25 Thread dbrosIus
+1 and git please Original message From: Phil Steitz <phil.ste...@gmail.com> Date: 10/25/2015 3:15 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org> Subject: Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons, On 10/2/15 12:08 PM, Gary Gregory w

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-24 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Norman & Jeff, I skimmed through the email conversation …. * Personally I really like the idea that retired computer scientists turn to Open Source :-) * Looking at the GitHub project I indeed see a cultural gap which needs be closed to do meaningful Open Source work * I try to ignore the

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-24 Thread norm
My colleague, Jeff Rothenberg, and I are retired computer scientists and are no strangers to regular expression theory and practice. Both of us have used regular expressions for decades and have taught many other programmers how to use them. Stephen Kleene

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-24 Thread ecki
velopers List <dev@commons.apache.org> Cc: jeff_rothenb...@acm.org, n...@dad.org Sent: Sa., 24 Okt. 2015 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons, My colleague, Jeff Rothenberg, and I are retired computer scientists and are no strangers to regular expression theory and practi

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-24 Thread Dave Brosius
Dear My. Shapiro, Greetings! Thanks for wanting to share this codebase, and making it available at github. I have attempted to cleanup the repository to make it more approachable for others who want to take a look, including reorganizing the src tree and adding a proper maven build system.

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-24 Thread Dave Brosius
Correct. This was the branch that Mr Shapiro used when he introduced the project to us, so that's where i did the work. And yes, it is now merged. My colleague Jeff Rothenberg and I, retirees, have developed an alternative to using regular expressions for searching for (and optionally

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-24 Thread Benson Margulies
gh-pages is the right place for it. You just have to browse to the correct place on github.io to see it. On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Dave Brosius wrote: > Correct. > > This was the branch that Mr Shapiro used when he introduced the project to > us, so that's where i

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-24 Thread Pascal Schumacher
Hello everybody, the pull request was merged, but it is in the "gh-pages" branch not in "master", so it's not visible by default on the github page. -Pascal Am 24.10.2015 um 22:27 schrieb Dave Brosius: Dear My. Shapiro, Greetings! Thanks for wanting to share this codebase, and making it

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-02 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 9/29/15 3:55 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Norman, > > > > Hello and welcome to Apache Commons. > > > > It's not clear to me why Naomi is better than regular expressions. > Pointing > > to Javadocs is not the best way

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-02 Thread Gary Gregory
I do not have time to dig into this one ATM but I'd like to give my 2c. Does this project introduce a new RE-like language or is it an API wrapper for REs? It sounds like it is both. A project like this I could see in Commons if the project was split into an API module and modules for different

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-02 Thread Phil Steitz
On 10/2/15 11:46 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > I do not have time to dig into this one ATM but I'd like to give my 2c. > > Does this project introduce a new RE-like language or is it an API wrapper > for REs? It sounds like it is both. It looks to me like what it says it is, which is an alternative

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-10-02 Thread Gary Gregory
Well, a champion can volunteer to shepherd this through our incubator I suppose, like CommonsRDF, which seems pretty inactive ATM. There is also the issue of "donate and forget" vs. staying plugged in the community. I just do not have the extra FOSS cycles to dig into the code ATM to see what's

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-09-30 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hi, Norman, On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:06 PM, wrote: > My colleague Jeff Rothenberg and I, retirees, have developed an alternative to > using regular expressions for searching for (and optionally replacing) > patterns in text. I admit that I am becoming somewhat cautious by

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-09-30 Thread Ole Ersoy
Hi, On 09/30/2015 01:44 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, Norman, On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:06 PM, wrote: My colleague Jeff Rothenberg and I, retirees, have developed an alternative to using regular expressions for searching for (and optionally replacing) patterns in text.

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-09-29 Thread Dave Brosius
Perhaps i am blind, but i don't see any maven, ant or gradle build files. You really need to add these for your code base to be accessible to others wanted to uptake it. (Hopefully maven). --dave On 09/29/2015 06:55 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: Norman, Hello and welcome to Apache Commons. It's

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-09-29 Thread Dave Brosius
Also the source code is not in the proper package structure. The class's have packages, but are just dumped directly in src. There is javadoc, but just dumped in the main folder. I just dump that, and having support building the javadoc from build tools. Setting the structure of the project up

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-09-29 Thread Gary Gregory
Norman, Hello and welcome to Apache Commons. It's not clear to me why Naomi is better than regular expressions. Pointing to Javadocs is not the best way to get traction. Your project would be better served by having some documentation on your front page with an example driven tutorial. Is

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-09-29 Thread Dave Brosius
Added a pull request with a first pass at moving all of this to a maven build. builds and generates javadoc fine. Might need some more fine tuning. On 09/29/2015 08:27 PM, Dave Brosius wrote: Also the source code is not in the proper package structure. The class's have packages, but are just

Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-09-29 Thread Phil Steitz
On 9/29/15 3:55 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Norman, > > Hello and welcome to Apache Commons. > > It's not clear to me why Naomi is better than regular expressions. Pointing > to Javadocs is not the best way to get traction. > > Your project would be better served by having some documentation on your

Proposed Contribution to Apache Commons,

2015-09-29 Thread norm
My colleague Jeff Rothenberg and I, retirees, have developed an alternative to using regular expressions for searching for (and optionally replacing) patterns in text. We believe it is generally useful to Java programmers and would like to contribute it to Apache Commons, where we will continue to