Re: Cordova website redesign

2015-10-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
Well said, and ya updated typeface looks slick.  On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 6:10 PM Ryan J. Salva wrote: > I'm personally a big fan of Ben's proposal. The typography really stands > out and gives the brand a strong, updated and modern presence. I know > there's a lot of pride

Re: Deploying New Cordova Website

2015-10-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
Lazy consensus is Apache apparatus too. Announce intent, if there is no disagreement: consider it assent. That said, I do think we could safely upgrade to emoji for all vote-like things. ✨ On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:45 AM Tommy Williams wrote: > +1 to what Jesse said... > >

Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey

2015-09-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt to do them but I would not take the responses too seriously or we will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM Parashuram N wrote: > Hey, > > We have had multiple discussions on this mailing

Re: [DISCUSS] CORDOVA AND LIVERELOAD

2015-08-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
also a -1 to core / most of the downstreams have livereload or hotreload baked into their respective frameworks On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: -1 to add to cordova-lib maybe to be a default plugin, but I'm with Jesse with this one lets not add

Re: [VOTE] 4.0.0 Browser Release

2015-08-17 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Please review and vote on this 4.0.0 Browser Release by replying to this email (and keep discussion on the DISCUSS thread) Release issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-9491 The archive has been

Re: [DISCUSS] Docs improvements

2015-08-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
Sgtm! On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 6:05 AM Andrey Kurdumov kant2...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, I want to made small improvements to the current version of Docs meanwhile Dmitry Blotsky working on Jekill. Want do discuss proposed changes before implementing them. My ultimate goal is to be able

Re: [DISCUSS] Website Repo

2015-07-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:09 AM Dmitry Blotsky dblot...@microsoft.com wrote: Hey folks, In lieu of the changes coming to the docs and the website design proposed at the hangout, I’d like to consolidate our docs, blog, and website under one Git repo. Right now we have some code in several Git

Re: [DISCUSS] Website Repo

2015-07-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
itself and add website content there. Thanks, Nikhil -Original Message- From: Brian LeRoux [mailto:b...@brian.io] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:28 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Website Repo On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:09 AM Dmitry Blotsky dblot

Re: Introduction

2015-07-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
We experimented with Promise polyfills and had nothing but trouble. I'd like to preface by saying: lets not get into a theory war. Some people like promises (fine) and some do not (also fine). My stance is that we should leave that choice up to our end users. Lets throw some facts out to colour

Re: Introduction

2015-07-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
, 2015 9:42:10 AM PDT, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: We experimented with Promise polyfills and had nothing but trouble. I'd like to preface by saying: lets not get into a theory war. Some people like promises (fine) and some do not (also fine). My stance is that we should leave that choice up

Re: Introduction

2015-07-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:17 AM Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: exactly so and by all means please feel free to use that, bluebird, rsvp, q, jakes es6 polyfill or any of the 5000+ libs for Promises [1] though I suggest one limits the scope to the other 200+ libraries

Re: June 2015 Board Report

2015-06-11 Thread Brian LeRoux
looks great shaz: thank you! On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/cordova/apache-board-reports/blob/master/2015/2015-06.md Let me know your comments, if any -- this time I just used the automatic tool at reporter.apache.org which collects stats

Re: Sticky Channels

2015-06-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
big -1 on promises from me; they've only been a pain for us thus far (ask steve about the plugman debugging maybe when they're native. mybe. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org

Re: Cordova Meetup/Beerup at WWDC?

2015-06-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
right on! lets plan a mini meetup this week! On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: I will be in SF this week starting Sunday for WWDC, somehow I was able to get a ticket thru IBM ;-) I will be there Sunday to Friday, if anyone wants to meet to talk, hack,

Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate --usegit flag

2015-06-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: +1 and using real git urls (should?) lets you install from branches/tags+other git repos and not just the mystical magical one that lives behind the flag. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:05 PM,

Re: Best place to browse plugins

2015-06-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
Ray: you have commit rights. =) On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Do we have a rough idea of how soon we will see the improvements on the NPM side? If it is 1-2 weeks, then I don't think it is a huge big deal, but if longer than that I think we have

Re: Best place to browse plugins

2015-06-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
go for it! https://docs.npmjs.com/misc/coding-style On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any objection then to me doing some rewrites, and if so, anyone know offhand the style npm is using? On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Brian LeRoux b

Re: Building cordova.js on first build

2015-05-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Right now, only the --browserify way does cordova.js generation in the cli. --browserify is currently designed to work with the CLI. I don't think it is worth it to add cordova.js generation functionality to the

Re: [DISCUSS] Should pinned platforms allow for patch updates?

2015-05-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think we should experiment but I'd like to throw a strong caution to this line of thinking. Most of the issues in dependency hell are due to transient effects. Module A updates but is unaware of Semver or mistakenly creates a side effect. Now two people with the same version of Cordova have

Re: Stepping aside

2015-05-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
what does this mean for the future of your book John? (def the best resource out there for our community and we really appreciate the years of work you've dedicated to the project.) also: would love to see you at PGD! On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 3:33 AM, John M. Wargo jwarg...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Also moving to a new team

2015-05-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
really appreciate the level headed contributions to our community and code Marcel Staci; glad to have had the chance to work with you both! On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Marcel Kinard cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Staci Cooper and I are also moving to new positions. There already are backfills

Re: Apache Cordova/PhoneGap up-to-date usage stats?

2015-05-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hi Martin, absolute numbers are impossible given the open nature of the project and numerous downstream distributions (phonegap, xdk, sencha, chrome apps, etc) That said, you can infer reasonable guesses now that much of the work is primarily used via npm. Some samples to get you started

Re: Scoped package names for npm?

2015-04-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
the npm team has granted us the cordova org/scope when/if we're ready for it. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: Okay fair enough. I was hoping that with the lack of tools release to stable, we can rename without affecting end users *right now*, but not

Re: Android 4.0 Blog Post

2015-04-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
from a fictional blog post I should write: 3 ways to bulletproof your network if you want to ensure your app only talks to domains you specify then: 1. do not include 3rd party scripts (or if you do make sure you trust them and maybe keep an eye out for document.write!) 2. use ssl for all your

Re: [Vote] 4.0.0 Android Release

2015-04-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015, 1:07 PM Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: +1 - verified archive - ran mobile-spec - audited headers. On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:56 AM Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: I don't think we need to re-start since no one's -'ve voted, and nothing would be

Re: Github, again.

2015-04-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
Alas, no. Vote threads MUST be an email. Our original interpretation: tagging a release by a PMC 'platform lead' === Vote… which, some may recall, the board did not take kindly. Moving from code to conversation def has slowed the project cadence down. Our last major release was July 2013. There

Re: Tools for Cordova Commits Presentation Slides

2015-04-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
  On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah http 403. Andrew, if you don't mind maybe post a file link? Or slideshare or something :) -- how am I doing On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Homer, Tony tony.ho...@intel.com wrote: First, thanks for sharing this!

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
Oh we tried to help. And yes we asked. We were very rudely treated. On and off list. (Or, I was anyhow.) I'm all for being positive, and I generally am, but I am also not interested in perpetuating a revisionist narrative about how apache has been great to work with. I have always maintained a

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
. Some them realize that those things are not existential threats even. We'll get there. On Thu, Apr 9, 2015, 12:56 PM Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Oh we tried to help. And yes we asked. We were very rudely treated. On and off list. (Or, I was anyhow.) I'm all for being positive, and I

Re: Platform guides update

2015-04-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
We recommend using the thing that works best for you for building apps BUT if you are extending Cordova you'll need to run with Android Studio, Xcode and friends. We support both. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Replace Eclipse example w/ Android

Re: Platform guides update

2015-04-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
that if that use case (extending Cordova) is 10% of the reader base than it should not (imo) be 50% of the docs. Btw - totally guessing at those numbers as I haven't seen the changes. :) On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: We recommend using the thing that works best for you

plugins, npm, and package.json …other art

2015-04-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
both reactnative [1] and nativescript [2] treading into the territory fleeting hope we could share work/code but probably good everyone does a bit of homework on the topic [1] https://github.com/facebook/react-native/issues/235 [2] https://github.com/NativeScript/NativeScript/issues/25

Re: [Android] Proposal: Deprecate/No-Op Battery Plugin

2015-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
I do! -- 3) Recognize and Handle Offline Status On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think it fits in the Next Steps doc? On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: I'm really hoping someone like Raymond will

Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-wp8 + Newtonsoft.JSON

2015-03-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
fairly certain distributing binaries isn't ok (except when it is such as maven or open office) =/ an email to legal-discuss is good diligence regardless On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: Parashuram, from the link you provided in the previous thread (

Re: ApacheCon NA, Austin, April 13-16

2015-03-21 Thread Brian LeRoux
I am! On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:13 PM Nikhil Khandelwal nikhi...@microsoft.com wrote: I'll be there. It would be great to meet others who are going. Thanks, Nikhil -Original Message- From: Anis KADRI [mailto:anis.ka...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 3:04 PM To:

Re: Android JUnit Tests Now Pass

2015-02-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
I see no situation where we don't want a feature branch vetted by 1 person before we land anything on master …short of fixing broken tests. I assume good faith. Joe: you had a bad day and, I think, you still feel mistrust after previous commits landing on master stalling out your work last

Re: Crosswalk-powered InAppBrowser plugin

2015-02-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
could be its own thing but if it came under the actual inappbrowser that'd be cool too https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-inappbrowser On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Sidney Bofah sidney.bo...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, my company recently required the availability of a

Re: [Review] Plugins Package.json

2015-02-04 Thread Brian LeRoux
love this, having a cordova key is a v good idea while this bakes too On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: +1 to changing cordova-windows8 to cordova-windows. On 2/4/15, 12:05 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, you can skip

Re: [VOTE] 3.7.0 Android Platform release

2015-01-22 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Sergey Grebnov (Akvelon) v-seg...@microsoft.com wrote: I vote +1 • Verified archives via `coho verify-archive`. • Verified tags manually. • Verified blank app can be created and run • Ran smoke testing of mobilespec app

Re: Deprecation Wars: ICS vs Gingerbread

2015-01-13 Thread Brian LeRoux
I agree, we're not really supporting these devices, and it is disingenuous of the project to advertise that we do. Any apps concerning themselves with privacy/security won't be targeting or testing on those devices either. I think a clean break w/ the message 4.x === 4.x, coupled with many

Re: platforms/plugins save and restore from config.xml

2015-01-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
Yes! Also quick q, are all experimental flags documented somewhere? (Other than code) On Thu, Jan 8, 2015, 6:29 PM Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: +1 to graduating this out of experimental :) On 1/8/15, 4:25 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: +1 to

Re: Deprecation Wars: ICS vs Gingerbread

2015-01-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
I say we go 4.x all in and drop everything below. Time to draw a line. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015, 6:24 PM Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: Also, who actually tests on Gingerbread? Please comment on this thread. On Wed Jan 07 2015 at 5:09:49 PM Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just

Re: Deprecation Wars: ICS vs Gingerbread

2015-01-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
! On Wed, Jan 7, 2015, 6:49 PM tommy-carlos williams to...@devgeeks.org wrote: -- tommy-carlos williams On 8 January 2015 at 12:37:59, Brian LeRoux (b...@brian.io) wrote: I say we go 4.x all in and drop everything below. Time to draw a line. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015, 6:24 PM Joe Bowser bows

Re: Auto-suffixing debug app id on Android

2015-01-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Why is it a good idea? On Tue, Jan 6, 2015, 7:40 AM Andrew Grieve agri...@google.com wrote: With gradle, this is easy to do: android { buildTypes { debug

Re: Auto-suffixing debug app id on Android

2015-01-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
Why is it a good idea? On Tue, Jan 6, 2015, 7:40 AM Andrew Grieve agri...@google.com wrote: With gradle, this is easy to do: android { buildTypes { debug { applicationIdSuffix .debug } Seems like a good idea to me, but I'm wondering if there may be reason

Re: Steroids Tooling now supports Cordova projects out of the box

2014-12-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hi Harri, we are thrilled to see downstream distributions of Cordova. That is the design! However, marketing related messaging and feedback requests are not appropriate for this list unless you are looking for our help contributing your code into Cordova directly. Thx! On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at

Re: Reason for node_modules in Platform Repos

2014-12-20 Thread Brian LeRoux
:;] On Behalf Of Brian LeRoux Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:04 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org javascript:; Subject: Re: Reason for node_modules in Platform Repos Josh, you are really abrasive and need to work on that. The corp network thing isn't a reason for anyone except RIM and Adobe

Re: Reason for node_modules in Platform Repos

2014-12-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
none. go fix it! On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Dmitry Blotsky dblot...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi all, What was the design decision and reasoning behind full node_module directories being committed to platform repositories along with the source, instead of being installed from the

Re: Reason for node_modules in Platform Repos

2014-12-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
to be transcluded via packaged node_modules, then this is a non-issue. On 12/19/14, 3:16 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: none. go fix it! On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Dmitry Blotsky dblot...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi all, What was the design decision and reasoning behind full

Re: Reason for node_modules in Platform Repos

2014-12-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Josh Soref jso...@blackberry.com wrote: Brian LeRoux wrote: yeh, we've been through this in other threads. pin the dep in package.json to a version or sha and your problem is solved. the only time a node_modules should be checked in, maybe, is in a deployment scenario

Re: Apache license in cordova create

2014-12-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
? They should be able to give us a definitive answer about the alternatives. From: Brian LeRoux Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎10‎, ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎46‎ ‎PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org guess so yea, great first patch Martin ;) On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-12-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
yeah we are *not* proposing to distribute browserify or its deps On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Joe Bowser bows...@gmail.com wrote: What are we actually distributing? On Fri Dec 12 2014 at 12:36:03 PM Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Joe Bowser

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-12 Thread Brian LeRoux
occurs via the native side shoving it in, or by cordova.js require()'ing a module is a matter of whether we check in es6-promise.js into each platform separately, or into cordova-js. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: we should move browserify to main

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-12-11 Thread Brian LeRoux
so I think this has baked long enough! lets make it the default and suss the bugs. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Ally Ogilvie aogil...@wizcorp.jp wrote: Ace, look forward to browser/web as platform. Combined Web and Native API plugin for Cordova! Yay! Thanks for the clarification Michal.

Re: Browserify JS is in

2014-12-11 Thread Brian LeRoux
at 2:38 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: I'd really like to get it fully spelled out *why* browserify is the right tool for this. Some thoughts below: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: we should move browserify to main and drop

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
- no technical benefit (but aesthetics, sure) - adds weight (payload and runtime) - might interfere with userland polly -1 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: One specific spot in core I'd like to use it is to address this TODO in Android's exec bridge:

Re: Apache license in cordova create

2014-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
no mistake, but it is a requirement for us to distribute code at apache. you are free to remove and relicense as you wish. On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Martin Sidaway msida...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit puzzled by the Apache license notice present in the following files after doing cordova

Re: Apache license in cordova create

2014-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
(and similar template files to be used to generate content that a consumer is supposed to be able to do w/ however they please). On 12/10/14, 2:02 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: no mistake, but it is a requirement for us to distribute code at apache. you are free to remove and relicense

Re: Apache license in cordova create

2014-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
guess so yea, great first patch Martin ;) On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Grieve agri...@chromium.org wrote: Could we just strip the license as a part of the create script? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: recent discussions elsewhere indicate

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
to the dom. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: - no technical benefit (but aesthetics, sure) - adds weight (payload and runtime) - might interfere with userland polly -1 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:48 AM

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
haven't worked on it, also curious. Anis, perhaps? On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: def think we should support those specs in our great and fabled api audit…had not considered the load order issue not insurmountable and probably should be a feature

Re: [iOS 8] WKWebView moving forward

2014-12-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
so, it appears wkwebview itself is open source [1] …well outside my comfort zone but feasible we fix these things ourselves? [1] https://github.com/WebKit/webkit/blob/0190dd5b8c0272beaa705dbc10863a84a3e6af5e/Source/WebKit2/UIProcess/API/Cocoa/WKWebView.h On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM,

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
Minified code is a flat out bad idea and needs to be reverted immediately. Jesse is right about promises too. Given that native support is immediately inbound it most certainly should be a plugin. Not core. I'll reserve debate about it as a lang feature for the drama queens on hacker news and

Re: WebView Promise and W3C standards

2014-12-05 Thread Brian LeRoux
This has me more convinced it should be a userland library and not even a plugin. Problem solved! ;) On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, 12:28 PM Ian Clelland iclell...@chromium.org wrote: I have two reasons for not wanting this as a plugin (both of which, I'm sure, are entirely subjective) The biggest one

Re: For Review: Dec 2014 - Apache Cordova Board Report Draft

2014-12-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
Man that is a tonne of work to compile. Thx Shaz (again) Looks good from here. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014, 4:00 PM Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: It's that time of the year again. Here's the draft: https://github.com/cordova/apache-board-reports/blob/ master/2014/2014-12.md Send pull

Re: Notification in dialog plugin

2014-11-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
ya this is legacy pain; the source formerly known as phonegap predates push/local notifications! used to be vibrate, flash indicator lights (remember those on blackberries?) and beep (also lol) we named the plugin repo cordova-plugin-dialogue (and moved vibrate out) b/c that seemed more

Re: Introduction

2014-11-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
wow really nice stuff Daniel. xplatform desktop plugins to an embedded chome browser is hella cool! [1] let us know how we can help you (first glance appears we could help by impl 'platform scripts' [2] which puts the project on the path to the cli and being an 'official' platform) [1]

Re: Summarizing thoughts on cordova-browser vs Ripple

2014-11-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm less interested in copying work being done faster/better in the browser devtools. Certainly some UI abstractions are helpful (map controls, acceleromter scrubbing widget, etc) but the returns for dev time are diminishing for the effort to author/maintain. Esp bad considering we'd have to pick

Re: [mobile-spec] consistency and reliability

2014-11-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
and not substantially less functional that Jasmine, could be a net win. Doing the port looks like it will take a fair amount of crank-turning. On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: Nope. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 5:04 PM Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: I would

Re: [mobile-spec] consistency and reliability

2014-10-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
tape (and or tap) has no globals and simple / shallow callback solution which fixes that we will have fresh intern blood to sacrifice to the test lib gods alter soon.. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 4:10 PM Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I've seen that in the past and it usually happens due to

Re: [mobile-spec] consistency and reliability

2014-10-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
risingj.com On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: tape (and or tap) has no globals and simple / shallow callback solution which fixes that we will have fresh intern blood to sacrifice to the test lib gods alter soon.. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 4:10 PM Michal

Re: Plugman issues/questions

2014-10-29 Thread Brian LeRoux
thats def a bug John / pls file! On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 5:52 AM, John M. Wargo jwarg...@gmail.com wrote: I'm playing around with plugman in Cordova 4.0 and have found some issues and have some questions. First of all, the docs are incorrect and I've filed a ticket:

Re: adding push notifications to core plugins

2014-10-20 Thread Brian LeRoux
the place. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some standard API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec). On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io

Re: PhoneGap day

2014-10-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
\o/ On Oct 18, 2014 10:53 AM, Ken Wallis kwal...@blackberry.com wrote: I'll be there. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Piotr Zalewa Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:18 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org Cc: Don Coleman

RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform

2014-10-18 Thread Brian LeRoux
-Webkit. On 18 Oct 2014 13:00, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: +1 to swarm dev ... That is our (not only) advantage being at Apache On Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: No, don't wait for me ... swarm. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014

Re: Adding node-webkit as a platform

2014-10-17 Thread Brian LeRoux
+1 to swarm dev ... That is our (not only) advantage being at Apache On Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: No, don't wait for me ... swarm. @purplecabbage risingj.com On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Maxime LUCE max...@touchify.co wrote: Ok I wait for your report

adding push notifications to core plugins

2014-10-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
just was discussing w/ Shaz and Jesse…thoughts?

Re: adding push notifications to core plugins

2014-10-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
asked about this from multiple sources over the last few weeks. Given how important push notifications are for mobile projects, a core push notification plugin would be a great addition and another argument for why you should use cordova. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Brian

Re: adding push notifications to core plugins

2014-10-16 Thread Brian LeRoux
, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: The Camera (esp iOS) is terrible IMO, we should replace with some standard API, like we've talked about before (not sure which spec). On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'm all for code removal. Which plugins tho

[OT] keybase invites

2014-10-15 Thread Brian LeRoux
pinging the list b/c I know we have some crypto nerds here. =) reply to me separately off list if you'd like an invite to keybase.io (its pretty sweet!)

Re: Review: Cordova-CLI 4.0.0 Release blog post

2014-10-14 Thread Brian LeRoux
looks great: thank you steve! On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Please review and send pull requests! https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/blob/master/2014-10-13-cordova-4.md

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
I am against it. Its not going to achieve the goal of alleviating confusion. People see the CLI as the version not the platforms. I'd rather we went to 5 if anything. On Oct 9, 2014 3:56 PM, Parashuram Narasimhan (MS OPEN TECH) panar...@microsoft.com wrote: I meant tag and start the vote for

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
.) On Oct 10, 2014 9:29 AM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: 5 is also fine. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I am against it. Its not going to achieve the goal of alleviating confusion. People see the CLI as the version not the platforms. I'd rather we

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-10 Thread Brian LeRoux
users and not mark a clear departure from cadver. The more I think about it though, the less important I think that worry is. Maybe 4.0 is fine. (Apologies to Steve, who just wants to get this over with) On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: As is 4

Re: [iOS 8] Status of WKWebView work

2014-10-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
I have some questions! What happens when you background / does it keep running? Since you're running localhost, how do you deal with 1 app (random port collision possible?) On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if it's only bound to local requests from

Re: [iOS 8] Status of WKWebView work

2014-10-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
variables in Info.plist, which are reserved for certain types of apps (navigation apps, etc) 2. Local web server port collision? This will be specified in the plugin in a preference. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I have some questions! What happens when you

Re: [iOS 8] Status of WKWebView work

2014-10-08 Thread Brian LeRoux
you guarantee that the port will be released when it goes in the background and not still be bound? That sounds like a main point of failure. Would you have it increment to the next port if the port is bound? On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I guess

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
This doc is a really great summary: thank you Michal (and everyone else for the input). Super agree with starting from positive goals Marcel. I've been asking around other Apache projects (Jackrabbit and Sling) and the Gentoo Linux guys. This problem is hard. The good news is: we're not the only

RE: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-03 Thread Brian LeRoux
Maybe pinning platforms and the CLI wasn't so bad after all. On Oct 3, 2014 2:34 PM, Treggiari, Leo leo.treggi...@intel.com wrote: I agree that this is, and will be, confusing. It was confusing today in our own discussions in our own team (who are, in general, fairly Cordova savvy) to be

Re: Independent platform release summary

2014-10-02 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm down with jumping to 4.x but not convinced a jump to 5.x would actually spur more understanding. (Also thanks for tackling this Steve.) On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not opposed to a big version jump. It would draw attention to the fact that

Re: [DISCUSS] shrinkwrap

2014-10-01 Thread Brian LeRoux
it is, and as the podcast said, shrinkwrap isn't quite ready for prime time anyhow. I'll be keeping an eye on it (as will others) so we can be sure to take advantage of it when it becomes stable and reasonable to use. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: In

Re: WKWebView for iOS8

2014-09-26 Thread Brian LeRoux
to library caches /myImage.jpg. On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io javascript:; wrote: cool, guess this is a bit of a startup penalty (but that'd be it?) On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote

Re: Who is going to Chrome Dev Summit Nov19-20?

2014-09-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'll be there. Looking forward to it. Should plan to do a Cordova (beer|meet)up? On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Michal Mocny mmo...@chromium.org wrote: I haven't seen a schedule of talks. I would be shocked if their wasn't some talk of Polymer (not sure about Designer). I'm less sure

Re: new NPM 2.x

2014-09-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
that was really good. my takeaway: lets use shrinkwrap once they add all this new hotness On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Carlos Santana csantan...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you might find this podcast [1] interesting, straight from the horse's mouth They discuss npm 2.x, opinions about

Re: new NPM 2.x

2014-09-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
could actually vet which packages go into that namespace.. -Michal On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: that was really good. my takeaway: lets use shrinkwrap once they add all this new hotness On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Carlos Santana csantan

Re: WKWebView for iOS8

2014-09-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
. (WizViewManager is a WebView creator and manager for iOS and Android - sorta like IAB) On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: orly On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Shazron shaz...@gmail.com wrote: External urls of course work. The other

Re: Confused about Android API level and Cordova, does it support anything less than 19

2014-09-24 Thread Brian LeRoux
NEVER LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN (jk) np, Mark. also: API level should be backwards compat so having at 19 means 17 *should* work but please let us know if not! On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Mark E. Scott Jr. msc...@scott-usa.com wrote: Apologies for this, I misread the mailing list text at

Re: [DISCUSS] plugins release Sept 29

2014-09-23 Thread Brian LeRoux
Heh, now imagine a futuristic far off world where we could take Virtual Automation and make it actually virtual. #gamechanger #devops On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Jesse purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds great to me! Thanks for volunteering. I would also like to suggest that we

Re: [DISCUSS] shrinkwrap

2014-09-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm w/ Mike on this. No idea why we started using shrinkwrap, its always had a flaky rep, and if we don't remember why then I'm guessing we might have decided to use it for reasons that may have been more defensive than actually solving a problem we had. Lets turf it. If bugs get reported then we

Re: [DISCUSS] shrinkwrap

2014-09-19 Thread Brian LeRoux
votes http://markmail.org/thread/j6bv5bk5ndlokobj can someone show me a jira issue or contributor having problems with having npm-shrinkwrap.json in the npm package only? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote: I'm w/ Mike on this. No idea why we started using

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