Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Hi Deepak, Anyone can vote. Only PMC member votes can be used in the result totals, but we always want to know what non-PMC members of our community think. It assures us to know that there is alignment between the PMC and others. Thanks, -Alex On 9/19/17, 9:43 PM, "Deepak MS"

Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

I'm not sure if voting is only from PMC members. Anyway, Royale is awesome name. Simple, yet rich and powerful just like Flex. On 20 Sep 2017 8:42 am, "Alex Harui" wrote: > Royale > Beads > Braid > > > On 9/17/17, 12:19 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki"

Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Royale Beads Braid On 9/17/17, 12:19 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" wrote: >Hi, > >In this thread I've gathered list of names proposition for fork of FlexJS >project. > >LIST: > >Royale >Boja >Strand >Bead >Limber >Boinga >Braid >Arise > >HOW DO WE VOTE: >1) Pick up 3 names

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I'm sorry I meant 09/20/2017. 2017-09-19 23:51 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki : > I will end voting tomorrow 09/19/2017 6:00 - 7:00 UTC Time. > > Thanks, > Piotr > > 2017-09-19 23:15 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui : > >> Justin voted. >> >> Now we have Royale

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I will end voting tomorrow 09/19/2017 6:00 - 7:00 UTC Time. Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-19 23:15 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui : > Justin voted. > > Now we have Royale and Limber tied again with 13 points. > Beads has 11, Braids as 10. Arise has 9. > > Royale has been mentioned on 7

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That's was the reason I proposed to reduce the options to 3 before voting. My bet was that many candidates, like in other kinds of elections, would make the whole process tricky :? 2017-09-19 23:09 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui : > That's a valid point, although I keep hoping

Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Justin voted. Now we have Royale and Limber tied again with 13 points. Beads has 11, Braids as 10. Arise has 9. Royale has been mentioned on 7 out of 12 votes. Limber on 6 out of 12. Limber still has the most first-place votes with 3. Royale and Beads have 2. Thanks, -Alex On 9/19/17, 1:11

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That's a valid point, although I keep hoping we'll hit on a name that makes everyone go "Yeah!". I had the idea to look into obscure god/deity. I found some references to: Arazu: Babylonian god of completed construction Kulla: Sumero-Babylonian brick-god Mušdam: the divine architect at the

Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Hi Alex, about your question in the other thread if I would help in logo and website work: I commented that I need to be "connected" and "inspired" with the new name, since is a huge task and effort just in the same way I was when I contributed to MDL UI set. I didn't want to comment too much

Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Hi, 1. Bead 2. Braid 3.Royale Thanks, Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Isn't it about time to reduce the number of names we're considering, not think of more? With the VOTE already running and such... EdB On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:13 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala wrote: > Gah > https://helix.apache.org/ is already taken :-(( > > On Tue, Sep 19,

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Gah https://helix.apache.org/ is already taken :-(( On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi - > > I don’t see that as being in the same space. I don’t think people will be > confused. > > Regards, > Dave > > > On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Piotr Zarzycki

Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Piotr changed his vote. It dropped Royale back to 12 points, putting Limber in the lead at 13. Arise is now third at 9 points. Beads, Boja, Braid all have 8. Royale and Limber both have been mentioned on 6 out of 11 votes. Trademarks responded that, without thinking about it too much, they

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Hi Alex, 2017-09-19 20:59 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui : > > That's why I'm concerned about Royale when there is a GitHub project > called Royale that is a "A React-esque framework for Javascript". Think > of it this way. If you did a search on GitHub for our project name and

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

I’m in Apple Mail on both iOS and MacOS Regards, Dave > On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:13 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > >> Erik, >> >> You should do this on the VOTE thread. >> > > This is the

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Hi - I don’t see that as being in the same space. I don’t think people will be confused. Regards, Dave > On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Piotr Zarzycki wrote: > > I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can we just > grab that name - I still do

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Looks like a conflict to me. Regards, Dave > On Sep 19, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Harbs wrote: > > Helix is nice. > > Possible conflict: > http://www.helixsdk.org/ > >> On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:40 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

I swear all the good names are already taken. I think we just need to throw letters into a box and shake them at this point. ‹peter On 9/19/17, 3:48 PM, "Harbs" wrote: >Helix is nice. > >Possible conflict:

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Helix is nice. Possible conflict: http://www.helixsdk.org/ > On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:40 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > wrote: > >> >> > > "Braid" also brings to mind "Helix". I haven't looked to see if there >>> are > any projects that

Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

I'm changing my VOTE to: 1) Arise 2) Braid 3) Royale Thanks, Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- Sent from: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/

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> > >> > > >> > > "Braid" also brings to mind "Helix". I haven't looked to see if there >> are >> > > any projects that use "Helix" which I'm sure there are. And if so, >> maybe >> > > "Felix" to give a nod back to Flex along with the helix. >> > > >> > > —peter >> > I love Helix. It actually

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Note that OpenOffice.org was an Open Source project for ten years before it was donated to Apache. So that is grandfathered use. FYI - I did the bulk of the migration of that site (9GB to ASF infra.) Regards, Dave > On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

There is actually already an Apache Felix. But we could probably use Andrew… ;-) (Although there’s quite a few Andrews on Github too) https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93=andrew= Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:31 PM, Andrew Wetmore

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Apache Felix is an existing project. It is an OSGI container project.\ Regards, Dave > On Sep 19, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Andrew Wetmore wrote: > > Felix is the happiest name so far. > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Harbs wrote: > >> Braid is fine

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On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Andrew Wetmore wrote: > Felix is the happiest name so far. > Taken: http://felix.apache.org/ > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Harbs wrote: > > > Braid is fine with me too. > > > > If FlexJS doesn’t work, we

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Felix is the happiest name so far. On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Harbs wrote: > Braid is fine with me too. > > If FlexJS doesn’t work, we can just play the game… B-) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game) < >

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Braid is fine with me too. If FlexJS doesn’t work, we can just play the game… B-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game) Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:12 PM, Peter Ent wrote: > > I'm inclined to favor

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Understand. The vote should be open for the next 4 hours, but I will probably wait till tomorrow morning around 6-7 AM UTC with summary, so we can change our VOTES eventually. With provided information my choose will be Arise - sounds nice same as Royale. 2017-09-19 21:12 GMT+02:00 Peter Ent

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

I'm inclined to favor "Braid" over Limber (however you want to spell it) because I can think of too many puns associated with Limber and the first thing that comes to mind, for me, is cheese that smells. I don't remember how to pronounce "Borja" and while English always seems to dominate,

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Lots of Bobs on GItHub. Apache FooBob and call it a day… ;-) Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 9:38 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J > wrote: > > Apache Bob... > > > -Original Message- > From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20

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I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can we just grab that name - I still do not understand fully those trademarks implications. [1] https://github.com/cristibalan/braid 2017-09-19 20:38 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J : > Apache Bob... > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Apache Bob... -Original Message- From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork Ick… Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) Harbs > On Sep 19,

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To me, Flex has always just meant… Flex. I don’t think I ever realized it had a meaning until we started talking about names. Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > Did folks like the name Flex when it came out? > > I just looked and flex.com

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Did folks like the name Flex when it came out? I just looked and flex.com and flex.io are already taken for things unrelated to our Flex. So having limber.com already taken isn't unprecedented, it is unfortunate that it goes to an adult site. I know that we have to use .apache.org, but it would

Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Dave changed his abstention to a vote. That tied Limber with Royale at 13 each. Beads now has 11. Royale and Limber have now been mentioned on 6 out of 11 votes. Boja and Beads have been mentioned 5 times. -Alex On 9/19/17, 11:12 AM, "Alex Harui" wrote: >Erik

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Ick… Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > There are any number of meanings for boja in many languages with and without > diacritics. > > https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/boja > > Sent from my

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

I don’t truly believe the actual name makes a huge difference. None of the options are really zingers like “React” or “Vue”. Ultimately people just use the name as a way to refer to the Framework (or set of frameworks). To me Royale does not sound like software. (I don’t know why.) “Crown”

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Om, In pony [1] and nabble [2] it displays differently. [1] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@flex.apache.org [2] http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/Re-DISCUSS-What-should-be-the-new-Project-Name-for-Proposed-fork-of-FlexJS-td64433.html Piotr 2017-09-19 20:13 GMT+02:00

Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Here is my vote: 1. Braid 2. Beads 3. Royale Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > I am abstaining for now. > >> On Sep 17, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Piotr Zarzycki >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> In this thread I've

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

> > > You should do this on the VOTE thread. > > This is the VOTE thread. At least that is what my gmail thinks it is... > My Gmail agrees ;-) EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Renaming subject for those of us who don't use Gmail. On 9/19/17, 10:40 AM, "Erik de Bruin" wrote: >I'm changing my vote to: > >1) Limb(e)r >2) Bead(s) >3) Braid > >Sorry for any confusion. > >EdB > > > >On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Alex Harui

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Erik, > > You should do this on the VOTE thread. > This is the VOTE thread. At least that is what my gmail thinks it is... Thanks, Om > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:40 PM,

Re: [DISCUSS] (was Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?)

Erik changed his vote. That put Limber in the lead over Royale, 13 vs 12. However, several folks are concerned about limber.com being an adult site. Limber has been mentioned on 6 votes. Beads and Boja have 9 votes each now. Boja and Royale have been mentioned 5 times, Beads 4 times. -Alex

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Erik, You should do this on the VOTE thread. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > > I'm changing my vote to: > > 1) Limb(e)r > 2) Bead(s) > 3) Braid > > Sorry for any confusion. > > EdB > > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017

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There are any number of meanings for boja in many languages with and without diacritics. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/boja Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Wetmore wrote: > > I can think of three ways* to pronounce "bo-ja" without even

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I can think of three ways* to pronounce "bo-ja" without even resorting to a South African "click" language. This makes it a challenge to refer to the product to anyone who does not already use it. *bodja, booya, boha. On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Piotr Zarzycki

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Om, No offend :) That is why it is so hard to choose ;) I think "bo-ja" is the closes to how I pronounce it. :) Piotr 2017-09-19 19:31 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala : > Boja is one name I really dislike. Sorry Piotr > > Also I dont know how to pronounce it. Is it Bo-ha,

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

I'm changing my vote to: 1) Limb(e)r 2) Bead(s) 3) Braid Sorry for any confusion. EdB On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > What a dilemma! > > I've seen 10 votes and 2 abstentions. I haven't voted yet. I wanted to > see what the trend was first.

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Boja is one name I really dislike. Sorry Piotr Also I dont know how to pronounce it. Is it Bo-ha, or boo-ha or bo-ja, etc? On Sep 19, 2017 10:09 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" wrote: > Reading Alex in VOTE thread and how many times we are mentioning Boja - I > will change my

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I did change the subject to discuss, but may be not enough for Gmail. I changed it again. You can change your vote until the vote closes, but your vote alone can move Bend enough to make a difference. You could actually increase the vote gap between Royale and Beads and Boja. -Alex On

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Reading Alex in VOTE thread and how many times we are mentioning Boja - I will change my VOTE. Limbr is a bit dangerous having Dave's finding. Piotr 2017-09-19 18:41 GMT+02:00 Harbs : > FWIW, I think Limbr is another good spelling. > > > On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Alex

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Sorry, that should have gone to the DISCUSS thread :-( EdB On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > I really don't like Royale, because it has no connection with went before > it, which Beads, Boja, Bend and Limber all do. > > My new favorite is Limber, but

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

I really don't like Royale, because it has no connection with went before it, which Beads, Boja, Bend and Limber all do. My new favorite is Limber, but I still like Bend very much. If I can break a tie, I'll change my vote (I can do that, before the VOTE closes, right?) EdB On Tue, Sep 19,

Re: [DISCUSS] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

What a dilemma! I've seen 10 votes and 2 abstentions. I haven't voted yet. I wanted to see what the trend was first. If you assign 3 points to first place, 2 to second, and 1 to third, Royale has the lead at 12 points, but barely: Bead, Boja and Limber have 10. Boja has been mentioned more

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FWIW, I think Limbr is another good spelling. > On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close down the > vote tonight or early tomorrow morning. So, if you are ok with Limber > (still not clear it will

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We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close down the vote tonight or early tomorrow morning. So, if you are ok with Limber (still not clear it will win, please state objections to using Limbyr as the spelling. It is true a unique spelling stand out from search results, but

Re: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

Bead Royale Limber On 9/17/2017 3:19 PM, Piotr Zarzycki wrote: Hi, In this thread I've gathered list of names proposition for fork of FlexJS project. LIST: Royale Boja Strand Bead Limber Boinga Braid Arise HOW DO WE VOTE: 1) Pick up 3 names from the list and order them from the most

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

Hi Rui, You can vote in our VOTE thread. Community vote is important. Pickup three names, propose yours one. Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-19 16:06 GMT+02:00 Rui Cruz : > I like > > cruzer.io (implies fast robust) > > 2017-09-19 14:50 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira

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I like cruzer.io (implies fast robust) 2017-09-19 14:50 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira : > Hi, > > sorry to not agree with Limbyr (or limber), but the concept and name > doesn't sound good to me. Although I see the intention behind. > > For me a name should be as direct

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Consider what Dave mention I agree with Carlos. Although I like Lymbir idea we should not go into that name having such issues. We have still 9 hours of voting and I'm thinking to change my VOTE cause Beads sound to me ok, but it seems to be less powerful. Conversation on users group seems to be

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Hi, sorry to not agree with Limbyr (or limber), but the concept and name doesn't sound good to me. Although I see the intention behind. For me a name should be as direct as possible, that substitution of "e" with "y" was something used a decade or so ago to get 2.0 names for the internet, but

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I read that as Limb Buyer. As in organ trafficking, Let's not :) Tom On 19/09/17 13:05, Kessler CTR Mark J wrote: to have "Limbyr" - Which I like personally.

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Hi - Keep in mind - (1) As an Apache project the URL is limbyr.apache.org (Apple mail auto-correct me to limber) (2) If independent people may hear about limbyr and type in or be auto-corrected to limber.com . We really don’t want anyone in a corporation going to an adult

RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve letter changes to the name. -Mark K -Original Message- From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:52 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the

RE: [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

1. Arise 2. Boja 3. Limber (Binding) -Mark K -Original Message- From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:19 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [VOTE] What should be the new Project Name for Proposed fork of FlexJS?

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Hi, It has advantage of having the name which do not exist on github. Let say that Limber with win in the voting - We probably have to open another VOTE to have "Limbyr" - Which I like personally. Is it enough that PMCs agreed here with changing Limber to Limbyr here ? Thanks, Piotr

Re: [1/2] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - Added method for garbage-collecting QNames

Maybe. We’d have to have documentation on JS-specific APIs for that to be useful. Otherwise, the APIs should be compatible with AS XNL and XMLList. Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Piotr Zarzycki > wrote: > > Hi Harbs, > > Could you add some additional info

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Finding names which have not yet been “taken” is tough… ;-) Unusual spellings also have an advantage in search. I like Limbyr. Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > I was looking into various spellings of Limber because just about every > name

Re: [1/2] git commit: [flex-asjs] [refs/heads/develop] - Added method for garbage-collecting QNames

Hi Harbs, Could you add some additional info to all public methods such as version when they were introduced ? Do you think that it could be helpful ? Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-19 10:35 GMT+02:00 : > Repository: flex-asjs > Updated Branches: > refs/heads/develop b217e2760 ->

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I was looking into various spellings of Limber because just about every name we came up with is already on GitHub: limber.com is an adult site limber.org is an observatory limber.io is about marketing royale.com is about ticket sales royale.org is about dogs royale.io is owned by