[ Cliff sent me a note that mod_include is generating warnings... ]
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 12:17:38AM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 12:08:35AM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> > >
> > > mod_include.c: In function `find_star
On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. (Did I mention I think this is yucky?)
Let me propose something way out in left field. Feel free to shoot it
down.
Problem: filters configuration is damn confusing. I only have time to
skim new-httpd (err, dev@httpd
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 10:49:52PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Not this way. No other mod_mime variable behaves the way you you are trying.
> I'm not kidding about adding a Set{Input|Output}FilterByType/SetHandlerByType
> so when we ask folks to rely upon mime types, they can actually do
From: "Justin Erenkrantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 10:40 PM
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 10:17:46PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > Thank you, first off, for catching my foobar.
> >
> > But -1 on the solution. This is contrary to the syntax of AddSomething.
> >
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 10:17:46PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Thank you, first off, for catching my foobar.
>
> But -1 on the solution. This is contrary to the syntax of AddSomething.
> AddSomething in mod_mime (and SetSomething in core) always _replaces_ the
> prior declaration!!!
If
> > AddOutputFilter GZ html (server-level)
> > AddOutputFilter Includes html (directory-level)
I think what you want is
AddOutputFilter Includes html.
SetOutputFilterByType gz text/*
That syntax doesn't exist...
yet :)
Bill
Thank you, first off, for catching my foobar.
But -1 on the solution. This is contrary to the syntax of AddSomething.
AddSomething in mod_mime (and SetSomething in core) always _replaces_ the
prior declaration!!!
We are going to have 10,000,000 webserer users three years from now asking
why don
"Ryan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you want to use gzip, then zip your data before putting it on-line. That
> doesn't help generated pages, but perl can already do gzip, as can PHP.
And Tomcat 4.x :)
Pier
On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Correct... and for a while the reason was because everyone thought the
> module was using ZLIB and there has been a long standing aversion to
> including ANY version of GNU ZLIB ( or any other GNU stuff ) into the
> Apache tree. We have personal email
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 01:59:16PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> This is not a 3 +1's and it's in issue. This is a topic currently under
> discussion, and adding it to the server now would be rude. This is also
> a large enough issue, that it really should be given at least three days for
> people
> In contrast, with an 11,000-line implementation like mod_gzip, it's
> much less likely that other developers will be able to troubleshoot
> the code quickly if it breaks while the original authors are on
> vacation.
A quick perusal of thesource for the 1.3 version of mod_gzip (which I've
been
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
>Ryan Bloom responded...
>
>>I have a few problems with this. 1) We have consistantly declined to
>>accept the mod_Gzip from remote communications.
>>
>
>Correct... and for a while the reason was because everyone thought the
>module was using ZLIB and there has
Hello all...
Kevin Kiley here...
Here is a mixture of comment/response regarding mod_gzip and the
ongoing conversation(s)...
There is a (short) SUMMARY at the bottom.
Justin ErenKrantz's original post...
> Ian has posted his mod_gz filter before, now I'd like to give it a +1.
>
> I told him I
On Sunday 02 September 2001 10:28, Jim Winstead wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 01:25:07PM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > > Which means it has nothing to do with cleaning the tree to a
> > > distribution state (or state 'ready for distribution'
On Sunday 02 September 2001 11:07, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:43:09PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > > The gzip content encoding is part of the HTTP spec.
> >
> > By implementation, or reference? Sure Content-encoding is part of the
> > spec, and it's defined to
From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:02 AM
> On 2001-09-01 at 20h50, possibly To [EMAIL PROTECTED] et al.,
> the keyboard of "Ryan Bloom" chattered:
> >
> > Putting every module into the core is NOT the answer to this problem.
>
> True.
>
> >
>> So we need any gzip filter to drop out quick if 1. it knows this mime
type should not be encoded; 2. it sees the
>> content-encoding is already gz; 3. it sees the uri/filename whatever
in a list of exclusions (that could be
>> automagically grown when it hits files that
_just_don't_compress_w
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:43:09PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > The gzip content encoding is part of the HTTP spec.
>
> By implementation, or reference? Sure Content-encoding is part of the spec, and
> it's defined to allow authors to extend their support to any number of encodings,
>
From: "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:43 AM
> On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:50:19PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> > On Saturday 01 September 2001 18:53, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> > > On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> >...
> We ship code that uses it. zlib fixes t
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 01:25:07PM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > Which means it has nothing to do with cleaning the tree to a
> > distribution state (or state 'ready for distribution'.)
>
> See, I think that's the difference of interpretation he
On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Which means it has nothing to do with cleaning the tree to a
> distribution state (or state 'ready for distribution'.)
See, I think that's the difference of interpretation here. *I* interpret
distclean to mean not "ready for distribution" but "b
From: "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:22 AM
> I use distclean on my computer all the time. Along with extraclean. Neither
> of those targets should toss config.nice. *That* is what I mean.
>
> To be clear: nothing in our build/config/whatever should remove co
From: "Ryan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 10:50 PM
> On Saturday 01 September 2001 20:10, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps modules distributed through official httpd subprojects are more
> > visible/more trusted, but we don't really know one way or the other o
Ryan Bloom wrote:
>
> If we don't need it in the core, it shouldn't be there.
Since there is no reason to drive 100+ MPH, auto manufacturers
should not make vehicles capable of going that fast.
'Needed in the core' -- what of the current modules are 'needed
by the core?' Nothing in the core ne
Ryan Bloom wrote:
>
> I believe that putting a module into the core says that we
> are willing to support it, and that we believe the quality of
> the module is as high as the rest of the core.
With that I can certainly agree.
> I would like to make that statement as few times as possible.
See
From: "Jerry Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 10:32 PM
> Ryan Bloom wrote:
> >
> > You know what's really funny? Every time this has been brought up before,
> > the Apache core has always said, if you want to have gzip'ed data, then
> > gzip it when you create the
Hi,
> A couple of other issues.
> - Netware. With a little help this can be fixed. However the
I will provide any help I can give; I'm able to compile and run the module, I've
compiled the debug version and have already sent an output to Kevin; the issue is that
the work files are always em
Hi All,
I think Sander sum it up nicely.
- It is part of the spec. Apache should implement the spec.
- Almost all new browsers support IETF content encoding/transfer
encoding. In testing with MSIE 6.x and Netscape 6.1
compression works fine.
- The biggest users of mod_gzip are
Hi,
I was glad as Ian contributed his mod_gz; I tested it on Linux and Win32 and it works
for me.
The problem I see with 3rd party modules is not mainly that they are 'invisible', I've
found tons of modules and often 3 or more for the same purpose, but many modules were
only written for Unix a
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 06:19:32PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> zlib has more memory leaks than a sieve. 3) I don't believe that we
> should be adding every possible module to the core distribution. I
> personally think we should leave the core as minimal as possible, and
> only add more modules
Hi,
>From what I have seen on the list I am on the +1 side of
adding mod_gz(ip) to the distribution. Ofcourse, my vote
doesn't count since I don't have httpd commit.
I find the following arguments convincing (summarized):
- The gzip content encoding is part of the HTTP spec.
- Most clients s
Very cool patch!
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 08:43:23AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>...
> +module include_module;
Hmm. That needs more stuff in there. I believe it should be:
module AP_MODULE_DECLARE_DATA include_module;
>...
> +/* Sentinel value to store in subprocess_env for items that
Charles Randall wrote:
> You may want to look at the Zeus server to understand the features
> that were product-worthy as one example. It appears that they've only
> implemented this at the virtual server level.
Good suggestion.. I don't think it'll be any harder with my current
model to impl
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:50:19PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> On Saturday 01 September 2001 18:53, Cliff Woolley wrote:
> > On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Ryan Bloom wrote:
>...
> > > 2) I keep hearing that zlib has more memory leaks than a sieve.
> >
> > Maybe it does, but that can be dealt with. Even so,
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:07:44AM -0700, Brian Pane wrote:
> (This is a repost. My original context diffs from August 23 won't
> apply cleanly to the current code base (due to changes in some adjacent
> code), so I've generated this new patch against the latest version of
> mod_include.c in CVS.
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 01:22:00AM -0700, Greg Stein wrote:
> I use distclean on my computer all the time. Along with extraclean. Neither
> of those targets should toss config.nice. *That* is what I mean.
>
> To be clear: nothing in our build/config/whatever should remove config.nice
+1. -- jus
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:16:15PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> On Friday 31 August 2001 19:31, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > From: "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:30 PM
> >
> > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 03:02:32PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote:
> > > >...
> > > > ex
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> mod_gzip implements the gzip algorithm. It also happens to be a 300k
> source file (~11,000 lines). mod_gz is a 14k file and is 446 lines
> and relies on zlib.
>
> Knowing the people on this list I will bet that the size of the file
> went a long way for us not accep
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