Hmmm, go away for two days and a mail storm erupts. :-(
I may never be able to catch up and digest this mail thread, but I'll
try and add a few comments of my own.
On 01/12/2005, at 8:41 AM, Nicolas Lehuen wrote:
c) We don't have a req.base_uri (to follow Jim's naming suggestion)
or
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MODPYTHON-93?page=all ]
Mike Looijmans updated MODPYTHON-93:
Attachment: modpython325_util_py_dict.patch
What it does:
- Simplifies the creation of StringField objects. This was already
marked as a TODO in the
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 07:10:37PM -0600, William Rowe wrote:
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
If apr 1.0 or 1.1 happen to be installed, I don't see why it's not
reasonable to fail to configure. The administrator may intend to link
against the system version, they may not want httpd having its own
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:58:00PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
fork() is *painfully* slow on the darwin kernel, I haven't tested but can't
imagine that threading isn't a huge win here.
Explain?
One preforked worker process can handle thousands of requests. Apache
doesn't have to fork
I'm referring to shrinking or growing the pool of threads/processes as needed.
If worker grows threads as needed, or even has to spawn only one more process
to create dozens of threads, this is goodness.
Bill
Brian Candler wrote:
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:58:00PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:12 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
So we've been compiling and improving the code, but the build/ install
status
is -worse- than httpd-2.0, ergo this is not the best version of
apache now
available and is -not- ready for GA.
I just built from
Any users who run httpd are unlikely to have installed APR 1.[01] given
that APR 1.x has never been supported by an httpd release to date. It's
really only httpd/APR developers who are likely to get into this
situation. (APR 1.x has never been shipped in a Subversion tarball)
As far as i
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:06:37AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Ok, but did you try installing into a tree that has, say, a fink port of
svn based on apr 1.0 or 1.1? We are (mostly) talking about where httpd
is finding stale APR versions related to non-httpd packages. (Non-httpd,
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:06:37AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Ok, but did you try installing into a tree that has, say, a fink port of
svn based on apr 1.0 or 1.1? We are (mostly) talking about where httpd
Subversion has never officially supported anything other than APR 0.9.x -
i.e.
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 11:11:26AM +0100, Andreas Lindström wrote:
Any users who run httpd are unlikely to have installed APR 1.[01] given
that APR 1.x has never been supported by an httpd release to date. It's
really only httpd/APR developers who are likely to get into this
situation.
Joe Orton wrote:
If some random user has APR 1.1 installed in /usr/local/apr, and builds
httpd 2.2 with --prefix=/usr/local/httpd-2.2, it would be a Bad Thing
(and certainly, very surprising behaviour) if that httpd install went
ahead and silently upgraded that APR install.
AGREED! Never
thats pretty cool
thx
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Colm MacCarthaigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2005 00:02
An: dev@httpd.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: problems with ssl in balance/proxy mode
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:54:19PM +0100, Ruediger Pluem
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:02:49AM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
I'm referring to shrinking or growing the pool of threads/processes as
needed.
If worker grows threads as needed, or even has to spawn only one more
process
to create dozens of threads, this is goodness.
But is it a
On Nov 30, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Ruediger Pluem wrote:
I believe the clearer approach would be to fetch the connection
from the connection pool
each time and do not use this module config method any longer. This
would also resolve the
problem of Hans-Joerg which you fixed with your recent
torsdagen den 1 december 2005 07.54 skrev Roy T. Fielding:
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:12 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
I'm 100% conviced next to nobody on this list has been developing
and testing
httpd-2.2/apr-1.2 without their own in-tree tweaks. I'm as guilty
as anyone.
So we've
On Thursday 01 December 2005 14:47, Oden Eriksson wrote:
I added mysql support in apr-util-1.2.2 as per INSTALL.MySQL as a
conditional build switch in our rpm package, that was only possible after
doing a lot of hacks.
Are those hacks anything we/I should know about and fix, or are they
torsdagen den 1 december 2005 16.01 skrev Nick Kew:
On Thursday 01 December 2005 14:47, Oden Eriksson wrote:
I added mysql support in apr-util-1.2.2 as per INSTALL.MySQL as a
conditional build switch in our rpm package, that was only possible after
doing a lot of hacks.
Are those hacks
Graham Dumpleton wrote:
Hmmm, go away for two days and a mail storm erupts. :-(
And when you come back we go completely silent again. It's a conspiracy
I tell ya. ;)
Jim
OK, I've been poking at the buildconf script a little bit. The
following patch:
Index: buildconf
===
--- buildconf (revision 351458)
+++ buildconf (working copy)
@@ -53,24 +53,32 @@
#
should_exit=0
-apr_found=0
-apu_found=0
On 12/01/2005 08:15 AM, Sander Temme wrote:
On Nov 30, 2005, at 10:53 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
[..cut..]
Is buildconf present? If the user runs it, does it corrupt the
unpacked tree?
If this is so, and it's broken, then perhaps remove buildconf
throughout the
tree, and
Ruediger Pluem wrote:
BTW: buildconf is also used by the rpm spec file that is delivered with the tar
ball.
To be honest I don't think the rpm build script needs to run buildconf,
it seems to be a hangup from when the spec file was the Redhat one, and
they needed to do custom stuff, all of
torsdagen den 1 december 2005 21.38 skrev Sander Temme:
Note the cp turds: those files are not installed along with APR, so
buildconf cannot copy them over. How come I or no one else noticed
this ever? Probably because these files are not cleaned up by make
Because you never package it like
On 12/01/2005 10:01 PM, Graham Leggett wrote:
Ruediger Pluem wrote:
BTW: buildconf is also used by the rpm spec file that is delivered
with the tar ball.
To be honest I don't think the rpm build script needs to run buildconf,
it seems to be a hangup from when the spec file was the
Yo dude, while the community may not catch/catch up with press, if we
planned to 'announce' Apache 2.2 as an httpd splash at the convention
opening plenary, this sort of just deep sixed that - since I'm pretty
sure most convention attendees follow [EMAIL PROTECTED], those who are httpd
users. Oh
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Yo dude, while the community may not catch/catch up with press, if we
planned to 'announce' Apache 2.2 as an httpd splash at the convention
opening plenary, this sort of just deep sixed that - since I'm pretty
sure most convention attendees follow [EMAIL PROTECTED],
On 2005.11.10 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Question;
I'm looking for input what version of visual c++ we should build apr 1.x
and httpd 2.1.x and onwards with. As most are aware, discrepancies in
the clib mean that mismatched posix open()/close(), malloc()/free() can
all cause serious problems,
Known Issues
Some non-showstopping issues were found during the 2.2.0 release
and testing cycle:
* mod_dbd and mod_authn_dbd are absent from the Windows build
environment. A patch to correct this is available from:
http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/patches/apply_to_2.2.0/
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Query; you let the mirrors catch up 24 hours, right? Or you just decided
to burn the extra ASF bandwidth?
It appears so; I've just cleaned up all the 2.1 turds left behind, but it will
take the daily -full- rsync in order for those files to disappear from the
On Thursday 01 December 2005 22:40, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
On 2005.11.10 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Question;
I'm looking for input what version of visual c++ we should build apr 1.x
and httpd 2.1.x and onwards with. As most are aware, discrepancies in
the clib mean that
On Dec 1, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote:
torsdagen den 1 december 2005 21.38 skrev Sander Temme:
Note the cp turds: those files are not installed along with APR, so
buildconf cannot copy them over. How come I or no one else noticed
this ever? Probably because these files are not
Jim Jagielski wrote:
I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but I still don't
understand the reason for such a rushed release, when
an extra few days would likely have resolved them...
Because it's httpd-dev tradition, .0 releases are never ready, and most
RM's live to regret them, yet new
Paul Querna wrote:
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Oh - why to users@ and not [EMAIL PROTECTED] (announce@apache.org, as
well as [EMAIL PROTECTED], as after all this is big news.)
I have sent it to both of those. It is still waiting moderation.
users@httpd.apache.org is the only one that I
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:40:25PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
I have 6.0, 2000/.NET, 2003, and 2005 sitting here, and will build whichever
flavor is deemed 'appropriate'.
If nobody speaks up, I'm building 'same old, same old' under MSVCRT.
I think that's appropriate, 2005 is a bit of
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:40:25PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
I have 6.0, 2000/.NET, 2003, and 2005 sitting here, and will build whichever
flavor is deemed 'appropriate'.
If nobody speaks up, I'm building 'same old, same old' under MSVCRT.
I think that's
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
++1! On to 2.4 :)
you mean X right? :)
Seriously though, will the inclusion of all the async stuff warrant a
jump to 3.0?
--
Brian Akins
Lead Systems Engineer
CNN Internet Technologies
Brian Akins wrote:
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Seriously though, will the inclusion of all the async stuff warrant a
jump to 3.0?
My 2c CA (yes, I have 2 of them sitting here)...
If the user can write a content handling module that ignores threading and
remains on-thread, then it's a 2.4
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:40:25PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
I have 6.0, 2000/.NET, 2003, and 2005 sitting here, and will build
whichever
flavor is deemed 'appropriate'.
If nobody speaks up, I'm building 'same old, same old'
Ok, on further consideration, if Joe casual user has the opportunity to
open
up the project in their free edition of VisualStudio 2005, and learn
Apache,
perhaps contribute back, I believe *we* win, and the user wins.
Agree *you* win, and we user wins. And I try to contribute back.
I used
Brian Akins wrote:
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
++1! On to 2.4 :)
you mean X right? :)
How about dropping numbers totally and using
colors?
Apache HTTP Server Green
:)
--
===
Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Jim Jagielski wrote:
I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but I still don't
understand the reason for such a rushed release, when
an extra few days would likely have resolved them...
Because it's httpd-dev tradition, .0 releases are never ready, and most
torsdagen den 1 december 2005 23.56 skrev Sander Temme:
On Dec 1, 2005, at 1:03 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote:
torsdagen den 1 december 2005 21.38 skrev Sander Temme:
Note the cp turds: those files are not installed along with APR, so
buildconf cannot copy them over. How come I or no one else
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 01:19:11AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: bnicholes
Date: Thu Dec 1 17:19:07 2005
New Revision: 351547
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=351547view=rev
Log:
Reimplement ap_some_auth_required as an optional function since the data has
moved to
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