Re: [DISCUSSION] Move PAX projects to Apache Karaf ?

2022-02-25 Thread David Jencks
Slight nit…. ASF voting policy says “SHOULD” for 72 hr window, not “MUST”, exactly so that in emergencies such as with log4j a fix can be voted on and released within hours. David Jencks > On Feb 25, 2022, at 7:53 AM, Grzegorz Grzybek wrote: > > Hello > > I don't have clea

Re: Update the map on change .cfg file on Karaf

2017-07-15 Thread David Jencks
You may find using a DS component with required configuration and configuration via an annotation considerably simpler. david jencks > On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> wrote: > > The standard way to obtain the configuration is to registered a &

Re: The future of gemini-blueprint

2016-10-17 Thread David Jencks
+1 david jencks > On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:33 AM, Grzegorz Grzybek <gr.grzy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello > > I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-4774 to consider > deprecation/removal of gemini-blueprint support. > > I had this idea after r

Re: [karaf-boot] New plugin system POC

2016-05-12 Thread David Jencks
this helps…. I’ll try to answer more questions after you’ve taken a look. david jencks > On May 12, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net> > wrote: > > Sounds interesting. Can you give some pointers to the respective code? > > Christian > &

Re: [karaf-boot] New plugin system POC

2016-05-12 Thread David Jencks
into the generated document. I use it (publicly) for the the felix ds extension attributes (DSExt annotation in the felix scr-ext-anno project. david jencks > On May 12, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net> > wrote: > > We currently use java ann

Re: Discuss: Use DS for karaf bundles

2016-03-19 Thread David Jencks
Perhaps no one would be surprised that I think this is a good idea :-) david jencks > On Mar 17, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net> > wrote: > > I see the issue for blueprint as it is quite heavy weight. > Scr on the other hand is just one b

Re: How to manage several service instances with declarative services?

2016-01-11 Thread David Jencks
the service type. thanks david jencks > On Jan 11, 2016, at 9:56 AM, b...@petinou.fr wrote: > > Thanks David, > > I tried that by get an error on karaf startup: > cannot register Component org.osgi.service.component.ComponentException: > Component FileReaderFactory val

Re: How to manage several service instances with declarative services?

2016-01-11 Thread David Jencks
Well, you need cmpn 6 for the ds 1.3 annotations (in particular @Reference applicable to a field). I thought this was on maven central but haven’t looked. If necessary you can get it from the OSGI site. david jencks > On Jan 11, 2016, at 12:35 AM, b...@petinou.fr wrote: > > Hi

Re: [DISCUSS] Semantic versioning

2014-05-24 Thread David Jencks
the version of an exported package. thanks david jencks On May 24, 2014, at 2:35 AM, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Please find my comments below. Regards, Achim sent from mobile device Am 24.05.2014 00:57 schrieb David Jencks david_jen...@yahoo.com: Well, your

Re: [HEADS UP] Region support in Karaf 4.x

2014-04-17 Thread David Jencks
thought that when the subsystems spec was ready karat would drop its proprietary features. thanks david jencks On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:56 AM, Guillaume Nodet gno...@apache.org wrote: Reminder: region is a concept which allows partitioning the OSGi framework between multiple defined regions

Re: git commit: [KARAF-2729] Add support of XA datasources

2014-02-13 Thread David Jencks
when is this going to be useful rather than misleading? There's no transaction manager support that i can see. david jencks On Feb 13, 2014, at 2:29 PM, jbono...@apache.org wrote: Updated Branches: refs/heads/karaf-2.3.x 56239e9cb - c56e9c5ce [KARAF-2729] Add support of XA datasources

Re: A Blueprint Free Karaf

2013-12-06 Thread David Jencks
You might want to educate yourself on DS before dismissing it. david jencks On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Łukasz Dywicki l...@code-house.org wrote: Yes Joed, You got the point I wanted to reflect. DS and SCR is still dependency which, for sure, may be optional. Switching to poorer

Re: A Blueprint Free Karaf

2013-12-04 Thread David Jencks
Great idea! I think that scr/ds is better suited to framework service wiring than blueprint. thanks david jencks On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea hzbar...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds very interesting. Less is more. I absolutely need to try this :). Thanks, Hadrian On 12/04

Re: features - subsystems?

2013-04-12 Thread David Jencks
The scope of karat features is also much much smaller than subsystems since karat features don't provide isolation. david jencks On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Hi Andrei, the first plan is to coexist. It's the same plan for P2 repositories

Re: svn commit: r1443073 [3/3] - in /karaf/branches/karaf-2.2.x: ./ admin/command/ admin/core/ admin/management/ archetypes/assembly/ archetypes/blueprint/ archetypes/bundle/ archetypes/command/ arche

2013-02-06 Thread David Jencks
I think that both the LiCENSE and especially the NOTICE file should not contain information about software used by (and not contained in) the artifact the legal files apply to. Especially the NOTICE should be as short as possible to minimize the requirements on the user to display it. david

Re: 3rd Party Feature Definitions

2012-10-11 Thread David Jencks
that is not going to happen. Karaf could use subsystems and drop its proprietary feature concept however. david jencks unfortunately almost all non karaf-related projects produce feature files, therefore we have to take care of it then. I'm not sure about the proposed artifacts beeing coupled to tight

Re: Access denied to git hub repo of Karaf

2012-08-27 Thread David Jencks
. thanks david jencks On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Charles Moulliard wrote: Hi, I get this error on Apache Github Karaf repo : git -c diff.mnemonicprefix=false -c core.quotepath=false push -v --tags origin karaf-2.3.x:karaf-2.3.x Pushing to ssh://g...@github.com/apache/karaf ERROR

Re: [PROPOSAL] Comment out SNAPSHOT repositories by default

2012-07-30 Thread David Jencks
+1 I thought of this too for the same reason. thanks david jencks On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi all, I made some tests on a VM without Internet connection this afternoon, using a local Archiva Maven repo configured in Karaf. I saw that using Apache

Re: Adding Webconsole Plugin for SCR

2012-07-25 Thread David Jencks
installed, would that be a problem? (or used dynamic import :- ) david jencks On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Scott England-Sullivan wrote: Do you see the capability feature extension being able to handle the case where say the web console feature s installed and then you add the event admin

Re: New feature on maven plugin

2012-06-08 Thread David Jencks
Are you on trunk? I think that's how the karaf assemblies are built there. thanks david jencks On Jun 8, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Romain Gilles wrote: Hi, I don't know if this feature already exist, but I think no. I would like to provision my most used features within my Karaf custom distribution

Re: [Discuss] Handling of initial bundles

2012-06-02 Thread David Jencks
handler, and I'm not sure anyone else agrees with me. thanks david jencks On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: After my rather emotional driven first answer I would like to elaborate a bit more. I have put a lot of effort into my implementation of feature reading in the main

Re: Problems building karaf trunk

2012-05-23 Thread David Jencks
. This is infuriating from the perspective of wanting to use our own capabilities but I think necessary for a reasonable release process. david jencks On May 23, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 04:04:05 PM Christian Schneider wrote: I agree. We should redcommend the packaging

Re: [Discuss] Handling of initial bundles

2012-05-08 Thread David Jencks
require very clear and overwhelming advantages to be considered. I've never suggested reading more than one feature during startup. I think the current approach of generating startup.properties from features specified in the assembly's pom is just fine. thanks david jencks On May 8, 2012, at 12:01

Re: [Discuss] Handling of initial bundles

2012-05-06 Thread David Jencks
the startup code quite a bit. thanks david jencks On May 6, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Christian Schneider wrote: I did not have the intention to make this more complicated. I just removed the other options. So what exactly do you -1? I already committed the first step of the implementation

Re: [Discuss] Handling of initial bundles

2012-05-04 Thread David Jencks
-kar features deprecated -- heavily encourage use of obr. maven and osgi are really not very compatible and trying to pretend they are IMO leads to too many problems and suppresses the usefulness of osgi. thanks david jencks On May 4, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Please, keep

Re: svn commit: r1303149 - /karaf/trunk/itests/tests/src/test/resources/org/apache/karaf/testing/startup.properties

2012-03-21 Thread David Jencks
david jencks On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Anyway, as the startup.properties is generated, we don't have the guarantee that the one that we test is the one that we distribute. I propose: 1/ don't generate the startup.properties, define it by hand, and use the same

Re: Proposal for pax url aether config

2012-03-07 Thread David Jencks
what would be wrong with a flat system repo so you'd just give the file name and then using mvn urls for stuff that is fetches through aether and stays in the local maven repo. thanks david jencks On Mar 7, 2012, at 2:48 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: I was quite surprised with the latest

Re: Proposal for pax url aether config

2012-03-06 Thread David Jencks
don't think there's any good reason to keep the maven repo structure in our kars or to unpack the contents when installing; a jar: url ought to work fine. thanks david jencks On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:28 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: I just discussed with JB how a correct config for pax url could look

Trying to get asm to produce proper bundles

2012-01-30 Thread David Jencks
I've opened http://forge.ow2.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=316321group_id=23atid=350023 with a patch that uses bnd to create proper osgi metadata so repackaging asm will be unnecessary. Possibly comments indicating this would be useful would help the idea gain traction. thanks david

Re: No license header in manual source

2012-01-19 Thread David Jencks
I haven't gotten that to work. I tried -# preceding first license line (entire content included verbatim) -# on every license header line (it numbered the lines) / on every line (entire content included verbatim). Anything obvious I'm doing wrong or any other ideas? thanks david jencks On Nov

Re: Issue with the latest mvn change on trunk

2012-01-16 Thread David Jencks
. I'm not sure what to do about this. Is there a specification for aether? Or maybe this is an aether bug? thanks david jencks On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:41 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi David, even without the prepend (+) in the configuration file (your latest commit), the issue

Re: [Proposal] Start 3.0.x stabilizing branch and feature freeze

2012-01-16 Thread David Jencks
I need the karaf activator stuff too. I thought the karaf part was done, but making sure it works properly and is documented is essential to me. thanks david jencks On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:19:53 AM David Jencks wrote: We've been

Re: Database commands for Karaf

2012-01-16 Thread David Jencks
already, but it's not in an osgi friendly form yet). I'm -1 on non-apache locations and I really don't think this fits with openejb any better than karaf. thanks david jencks On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: I would be fine with both options. Christian Am 16.01.2012 13

Re: Database commands for Karaf

2012-01-15 Thread David Jencks
technology, it's more of a usability extension to existing enterprise functionality. thanks david jencks On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:56 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: Hi At first thought the commands seems cool. However one part (the SQL execute) they risk introduce a security vulnerability

Many pax url bundles are broken due to org.slf4j.impl import

2012-01-15 Thread David Jencks
with a proper fix. thanks! david jencks

Re: Issue with the latest mvn change on trunk

2012-01-14 Thread David Jencks
handler registration until configuration is present ... thanks david jencks On Jan 14, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Another issue that we have to address is the startup time. Karaf 2.2.x is very quick to start (something like 5 seconds on my machine), whereas Karaf 3.0.0

Re: [Proposal] Start 3.0.x stabilizing branch and feature freeze

2012-01-14 Thread David Jencks
specific features do you need in 3.0 that aren't there right now? anyway +1 from me. thanks david jencks On Jan 14, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: Basically this is a good idea. I am just unsure if we are already at the point where we should do the branch. Do we have all features

Re: Issue with the latest mvn change on trunk

2012-01-14 Thread David Jencks
. On another machine the pax url wrap bundle does not start similar to what you are seeing (slf4j missing). Will keep looking... thanks david jencks On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: It's what I did: - git clone mvn clean install -DskipTests on ops4j base, swissbox, url

Re: Issue with the latest mvn change on trunk

2012-01-13 Thread David Jencks
know the snapshot publishing policy at ops4j. david jencks I'm going to check if the ${karaf.default.repository} is correctly used in Pax URL localRepository. I suspect the + (prepend) could be the cause of the problem (I gonna check). I will give you more information later today

Possibly crazy idea about installable child instances

2012-01-11 Thread David Jencks
packs stuff into a kar. I don't yet know if this makes sense... it would result in it being easy to make installable child instances with properties defined in the pom. Putting the idea out in case I forget about it :-) thanks david jencks

Re: Possibly crazy idea about installable child instances

2012-01-11 Thread David Jencks
files) by hand but once made you can include it in a karaf assembly and then it works fine. thanks! david jencks On Jan 11, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi David, What do you think about something like: karaf@root instance:create geronimo-my karaf@root instance:connect

Re: SCR Tools for Karaf

2012-01-09 Thread David Jencks
but they don't show up as available with our tab completion. My impression is the Scott's new ones are slightly more capable. thanks david jencks On Jan 9, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Łukasz Dywicki wrote: Hey Scott, Many thanks for providing the patch. Lack of the scr commands was our issue from ages, thanks

aether url handler problems and proposed solutions

2012-01-09 Thread David Jencks
but is less flexible. Since these proposals change the behavior of the url handler I would like to discuss them before committing. On the other hand KARAF-910 has been a serious problem in karaf for a long time so I would like to commit the fixes soon. Many thanks david jencks

pax mvn url configuration (trunk)

2012-01-09 Thread David Jencks
really avoid it as much as possible. BTW the fix for KARAF-910 involves the changes to paxurl attached to KARAF-910 and also making the feature service wait to start for the mvn url handler. thoughts? thanks david jencks

Re: SCR Tools for Karaf

2012-01-08 Thread David Jencks
straighten this out. - The colors of the output on the console are very faint (light gray and light yellow). I'm not sure how this is configured but would it be possible to make it darker? thanks! david jencks On Jan 7, 2012, at 3:10 PM, sully6768 wrote: Hello All, I have submitted a set

Re: SCR Tools for Karaf

2012-01-08 Thread David Jencks
Hi... inline On Jan 8, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Scott England-Sullivan wrote: Hi Dave, My comments are inlined below. Scott ES On Jan 8, 2012, at 3:17 AM, David Jencks david_jen...@yahoo.com wrote: I've modified this a bit to work with trunk and committed the results. This looks

Re: Build failed in Jenkins: Karaf #846

2012-01-06 Thread David Jencks
Is this failure perhaps due to the recent ssl certificate change? I think the error is in the deploy phase. thanks david jencks On Jan 6, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Apache Jenkins Server wrote: See https://builds.apache.org/job/Karaf/846/changes Changes: [gnodet] [KARAF-1142] Get rid

Re: Minimal distribution

2012-01-05 Thread David Jencks
. The feature service might need to be modified slightly to work without regions. david jencks On Jan 5, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Ioannis Canellos wrote: Hi all, After the talk about the size of distributions I started giving a look at the minimal distribution. An obvious change is to remove

Re: Issue with karaf-maven-plugin

2012-01-05 Thread David Jencks
you need to build with -X and try to find the well-concealed reason among the megabytes of irrelevant logging. david jencks On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Charles Moulliard wrote: Is it something that we already know ? [INFO] --- karaf-maven-plugin:3.0.0-SNAPSHOT:features-generate-descriptor

Blueprint injection in commands

2012-01-05 Thread David Jencks
be visible if the service they expose isn't available. I think this is a good idea but I'm open to discussion. thanks david jencks

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change the default jre.properties

2011-12-27 Thread David Jencks
jre.properties, use the karaf-activator approach to spec jars in endorsed, and recompile anything that expects a stax or jaxb package version. We wont need to modify jre.properties at all. thanks david jencks Best regards, Lukasz Wiadomość napisana przez Guillaume Nodet w dniu 2011-12-27

unused config param?

2011-12-26 Thread David Jencks
geronimo capabilities. thanks david jencks

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change the default jre.properties

2011-12-26 Thread David Jencks
give us a fairly manageable way to set the package versions on the specs. thanks! david jencks On Dec 26, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Christian Schneider wrote: I am +1 for not exporting the packages by default in the system bundle. I also have an idea how we could create an environment for people who

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change the default jre.properties

2011-12-26 Thread David Jencks
be caused by unspecified package versions for spec packages. People at osgi have talked about figuring out some recommendations but I don't think anyone has actually worked on it yet. thanks david jencks On Dec 26, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Monday, December 26, 2011 8:13:39 PM Guillaume

Re: [Proposition] - Apache KarafEE

2011-12-14 Thread David Jencks
the problems that will show up. thanks david jencks On Dec 14, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Charles Moulliard wrote: OpenEJB is involved into the TCK process so KarafEE will inherit it On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Guillaume Nodet gno...@gmail.com wrote: So in order to convince architects

Re: Regions and equinox

2011-12-05 Thread David Jencks
david jencks On Dec 5, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: I don't experience any problems with equinox at the moment. Di you fix those or worked around them ? On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 00:56, David Jencks david_jen...@yahoo.com wrote: I still don't know what the problem is, but if you start

Deployers, or what happened to the full kar

2011-12-05 Thread David Jencks
?) and the others to a new deployers feature in standard that replaces the kar feature (the kar deployer was already installed in framework). Does anyone think we need more granularity in deployers? With this change I no longer think we need the full kar. thanks david jencks

Re: Deployers, or what happened to the full kar

2011-12-05 Thread David Jencks
assembly). This way they are easy to leave out or add in a custom assembly. Whether they are in any particular custom assembly is less important to me. thanks! david jencks On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Sorry, I mean: - blueprint, kar, wrap deployers

Re: Regions and equinox

2011-12-04 Thread David Jencks
at least update all the other little blueprint bundles? Maybe aries needs to rethink the division into bundles and separate the extender (which isn't likely to change) from the core (which might) so the core can be updated independently. thanks david jencks On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 02:57, David

kar and assembly archetypes

2011-12-04 Thread David Jencks
them. thanks david jencks

Regions and equinox

2011-12-02 Thread David Jencks
. If anyone wants to take a look or has any ideas what might be going on I'd appreciate it. I commented out the use equinox line of the 3 failing tests but you can try starting the apache-karaf server under equinox. thanks david jencks

Re: [jira] [Created] (KARAF-1060) use bash file extenstions: karaf - karaf.sh

2011-11-30 Thread David Jencks
FWIW I like it the way it is, I'm very used to unix scripts not having a .sh, I'd vote -1 also. thanks david jencks On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: I'm more -1 to it. It really is against normal unix conventions to do it. A user shouldn't need to know if an executable

No license header in manual source

2011-11-29 Thread David Jencks
I don't see any apache license headers in the manual .conf files. I think we have to fix this ASAP or remove the manual. Does anyone know how to make a comment in scalate so we can do this? thanks david jencks

Re: Assembly/Assemblies clean up

2011-11-28 Thread David Jencks
deployer in with some spring feature? Also I think we should put all the spring related features in a spring feature repo so it's easier to have a spring-free karaf if you want it. thanks david jencks On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:57 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi David, yes I saw that. I removed

Re: svn commit: r1206581 - /karaf/trunk/manual/src/main/webapp/developers-guide/

2011-11-27 Thread David Jencks
I tried to fix the pages I modified thanks david jencks On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:55 AM, Glen Mazza wrote: David (and everyone else), you should be using Maven and Karaf instead of maven and karaf. Glen On 11/26/2011 03:33 PM, djen...@apache.org wrote: Author: djencks Date: Sat Nov

Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release

2011-11-25 Thread David Jencks
suggests to me that having each demo as a kar or feature would be appropriate. thanks david jencks On Nov 25, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Jamie G. wrote: Apologies for confusion; under assemblies we have apache-karaf and apache-karaf-minimal, with an empty directory for apache-karaf-full. So two

Re: svn commit: r1206391 - in /karaf/trunk/manual/src/main/webapp/developers-guide: karaf-maven-plugin-features-generate-descriptor.conf karaf-maven-plugin.conf

2011-11-25 Thread David Jencks
yes, that works:-) thanks. I noticed that the browser title is Apache Karaf ${pom.version} Guide but I couldn't find the source that generates this. Maybe the source should be ${project.version} also to get the actual version in the title? thanks! david jencks On Nov 25, 2011, at 11:18 PM

Re: [DISCUSS] Roadmap for 3.0 release

2011-11-24 Thread David Jencks
to upgrade to jetty 8? would this be a pax upgrade or karaf upgrade? thanks david jencks On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: I think we should start planning a 3.0 release as soon as possible. I have the following big new features in mind: * regions (KARAF-1009) * subshells

Isolation support in karaf

2011-11-12 Thread David Jencks
the regions jar doesn't let you do this, and although I think that ability will be needed for subsystems I don't propose to implement it yet. Is this something we want in karaf? thanks david jencks

Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf 2.3.x branch

2011-11-09 Thread David Jencks
rather than adding multiple kitchen sinks full of new features to 2.x. and never working on getting 3.0 done enough to release. If we can get 3.0 out I have no problem with people (not including me) then backporting all the interesting features into 2.x. thanks david jencks On Nov 9, 2011

Re: svn commit: r1181815 - in /karaf/trunk: admin/core/ admin/core/src/test/resources/etc/ assemblies/apache-karaf/ assemblies/features/ assemblies/features/framework/ assemblies/features/full/ assemb

2011-10-24 Thread David Jencks
IIUC -1 as this removes the feature, blueprint, and wrap deployers from the server. (and possibly other stuff). david jencks On Oct 11, 2011, at 7:47 AM, jbono...@apache.org wrote: Author: jbonofre Date: Tue Oct 11 14:47:44 2011 New Revision: 1181815 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev

Re: feature names are potentially ambiguous?

2011-10-14 Thread David Jencks
feature I'm getting? I think this is why people have pretty much universally adopted FQN for bundle symbolic names, and I think the same reasoning applies here. BTW, I suggested the longer names when I started running into exactly this problem between karaf and geronimo features. thanks david

Something wrong with FeatureDeploymentListener?

2011-10-14 Thread David Jencks
by blueprint simultaneously. Is this intended or is there something wrong in the blueprint configuration, such as prototype rather than singleton scope? (can't remember the right terms) thanks david jencks

Re: feature names are potentially ambiguous?

2011-10-12 Thread David Jencks
. I think that being able to trace a feature back to the project it came from using its name is really valuable. So I'd concentrate on presentation improvements. thanks david jencks On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Ioannis Canellos wrote: Though I liked the idea of symbolic-name like features

Re: OSGi Service Platform Release 4.0 - Early Draft

2011-10-12 Thread David Jencks
: If Karaf has any declarative service, they will need to be changed to work in a manner suggested by this RFC. karaf doesn't have any, but you've sure piqued my interest :-) thanks david jencks - Mike Van Mike Van's Open Source Technologies Blog -- View this message in context: http

Re: [jira] [Commented] (KARAF-910) Race between FeatureService and ConfigAdmin for resolving mvn: URLs?

2011-10-10 Thread David Jencks
the config deployer gets going and installs the mvn url handler config these problems would stop. Could you describe how you are thinking of solving this problem? thanks david jencks On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré (Commented) (JIRA) wrote: [ https://issues.apache.org/jira

Re: [DISCUSS] Updating karaf core bundles in 3.0

2011-09-30 Thread David Jencks
downloading and installing bizarre versions of jars that I'm beginning to question its use at all. do the osgi:update and dev:watch work on anything other than snapshot versions? thanks david jencks On Sep 30, 2011, at 1:18 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: I have a problem with the way the current

Is the mvn url handler really usable?

2011-09-30 Thread David Jencks
On trunk, I've been having severe problems lately with the mvn url handler downloading ancient snapshots and overwriting my just-built snapshots. Is this a configuration problem or something dreadfully wrong with the url handler design (or just a bug)? thanks david jencks

Re: Hudson Builds need too long

2011-09-12 Thread David Jencks
confirmation of this. thanks david jencks On Sep 12, 2011, at 10:43 PM, Andreas Pieber wrote: Oha... OK, the build is still a problem, but I was fooled by the fact that the old org.apache.karaf/apache-karaf distribution was renamed to org.apache.karaf.assemblies/apache-karaf-full... We should

Re: September board report review

2011-09-01 Thread David Jencks
looks good but i still hope we might get 3.0 out before then thanks david jencks On Aug 31, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi all, Due to my mistake, the Karaf board report wasn't due last month but this month (September). I updated the board report wiki page

Trunk moved to new-style assemblies

2011-08-31 Thread David Jencks
these are redundant but I can be talked out of this view. I'm slowly working on updating some of the manual to cover the packagings in the karaf-maven-plugin and the new mojos. thanks david jencks

Should we move the spring features into a spring feature repository?

2011-08-31 Thread David Jencks
I keep wondering how standard the spring features are and wonder if they would be better in a separate spring feature repository. Thoughts? (I'm thinking trunk only) thanks david jencks

Re: Manual generation questions

2011-08-25 Thread David Jencks
that running the build should require manually downloading a commercial product. If there's some way to make it ok to distribute the manual can we at least make it so that you need to specify a profile to generate the pdf? thanks david jencks On Aug 24, 2011, at 11:16 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote

Re: [PROPOSAL] Make simple bean objects in Karaf Serializable

2011-08-25 Thread David Jencks
far the wicket behavior just seems bizarre to me but I suppose there must be a good reason. It certainly seems like a big nuisance to have to write serializable copies of everything. thanks david jencks Kind regards, Andreas On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 07:27, David Jencks david_jen

Re: [PROPOSAL] Make simple bean objects in Karaf Serializable

2011-08-24 Thread David Jencks
Can you explain why you want this? I think serializable objects usually lead to nothing but trouble. thanks david jencks On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Andreas Pieber wrote: While it is not required for the karaf-webconsole it would still help if various simple java bean objects in Karaf

What's stopping a 3.0 release?

2011-08-22 Thread David Jencks
to do anything else. I can do most of the above with the exception of making sure everything everyone wants is in the new-style assemblies. What else is needed? thanks david jencks

karaf on osgi 4.3?

2011-08-22 Thread David Jencks
kind of branch? thanks david jencks

feature names are potentially ambiguous?

2011-08-18 Thread David Jencks
Our feature names are quite short (e.g. jndi) and it seems to me this is likely to cause confusion when features get more widely adopted. Would it make sense to change them to be more like typical symbolic names, eg. org.apache.karaf.feature.jndi? thanks david jencks

Re: [INFO] Starting Apache Karaf Cave

2011-08-09 Thread David Jencks
What is it supposed to be? I don't see a proposal or explanation on the dev list (maybe I missed it) thanks david jencks On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Hi all, I started Apache Karaf Cave on github today: https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf-cave Feel free to ask

If you change mojo names please update components.xml

2011-07-18 Thread David Jencks
descriptions and update them there too so the packagings can work. The features packaging appears to work ok now, I haven't tried the kar or assembly packagings. thanks david jencks

Re: [PROPOSAL] Towards Karaf 3.0.0

2011-07-12 Thread David Jencks
the framework already understands entries like !com.sun.xml.bind so maybe for that property we can just merge everything together into one string. thanks david jencks On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: I disagree with that. Jaxb, stax and other libraries provided by the JRE

Re: [PROPOSAL] Towards Karaf 3.0.0

2011-07-12 Thread David Jencks
to modify the effective jre.properties by installing a .kar file rather than editing it by hand. thanks david jencks On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:33 PM, mikevan wrote: David, From my experience, the only time I need to use a negation operator in jre.properties is if I want to explictly show users

Re: [PROPOSAL] Towards Karaf 3.0.0

2011-07-12 Thread David Jencks
On Jul 12, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:41:18 PM David Jencks wrote: I probably didn't explain my idea very well I was thinking that the base jre.properties might have javax.xml.bind in the jdk6 entry in it to indicate that it's using the jaxb

Re: [PROPOSAL] Towards Karaf 3.0.0

2011-07-12 Thread David Jencks
with osgi. This does only work with apis that actually use ServiceLoader rather than the ones that just sort of act like they do thanks david jencks On Jul 12, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: The issue is less the impl version than it is the api version. The API version is just 2.1

Re: Uninstall of inner features

2011-05-22 Thread David Jencks
If we do this I think this is how to do it but I'm not at all convinced the code complexity is worth the possible convenience. thanks david jencks On May 21, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Maybe an easier way would be to track features that have been explicitely installed

Re: Uninstall of inner features

2011-05-22 Thread David Jencks
Thanks for the clarification :-) These are supported in trunk. I think I'd call them a feature dependency. thanks david jencks On May 21, 2011, at 12:16 AM, Ioannis Canellos wrote: Forgive me if I didn't express my self right. By inner feature I mean the reuse of a top-level feature inside

Re: Uninstall of inner features

2011-05-21 Thread David Jencks
. If we do support them I think uninstalling them as part of the enclosing feature is more reasonable than leaving them in place. thanks david jencks On May 20, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Ioannis Canellos wrote: A week ago I saw a question in the user list regarding uninstalling inner features. Our

Re: [DISCUSS] Karaf-Max assembly

2011-05-03 Thread David Jencks
are in that would make it easier to import an assembly containing 150 bundles 50 of which you don't use than the 100 you do use. thanks david jencks On May 3, 2011, at 12:22 PM, mikevan wrote: mikevan wrote: For folks developing applications to deploy into Karaf on closed networks

Re: [DISCUSS] Karaf-Max assembly

2011-05-03 Thread David Jencks
AFAICT neither Mike nor your proposal address. And, I still don't have any problem with adding such a mega-assembly. I don't think it will help anyone in a closed environment but it does seem like it might make all the possibilities easier to discover and play with. thanks david jencks On May 3

Re: features can prefer remote snapshots over ones in system (at least in trunk)

2011-04-21 Thread David Jencks
in system would imply we are not using reference urls at all which is a problem for me. I don't think having 2 copies of big jars is a good idea. thanks david jencks On Apr 21, 2011, at 2:49 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: I'm not sure. I think using aether has some benefits, but we need to make

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