Simon Brouwer wrote (05-10-10 05:03)
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle in
the project has been, or was going to be, a larg
Hi Simon,
Simon Brouwer wrote (04-10-10 23:39)
Apparently it's easy to forget that it has also continuously been
putting in much of the effort baking it, and that it had provided the
cake in the first place.
IMO the arrangement was definitely not ideal but also not particularly
unfair.
Basic
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle
in the project has been, or was going to be, a larger obstacle to the
continued succe
Just to make it clear: I am an independent volunteer community member
without any affiliation with Oracle that might color my perspective.
However, until now I am not convinced that the position of Sun/Oracle
in the project has been, or was going to be, a larger obstacle to the
continued succe
Op 5-10-2010 0:40, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 05:39 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Apparently it's easy to forget that it has also continuously been
putting in much of the effort baking it, and that it had provided the
cake in the first place.
Please believe me when I say that it is not
On 10/04/2010 05:39 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Apparently it's easy to forget that it has also continuously been
putting in much of the effort baking it, and that it had provided the
cake in the first place.
Please believe me when I say that it is not nearly as easy as it may
seem from outwa
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 23:19 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Think about this fact: People who have been working with you guys for
> 10 years or who generally have contributed their best days, their
> leisure time, their jobs, to build OOo with you, well, these people,
> the whole community, is m
Hi Drew,
Op 4-10-2010 22:29, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 03:08 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Hi Drew,
Op 4-10-2010 20:19, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side kee
Bjoern,
Le 4 oct. 2010 à 20:56, Bjoern michaelsen a écrit :
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> please let me offer a personal opinion to the topic ...
>
> On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:10:34 +0200
> "Charles-H. Schulz" wrote:
>> What I wanted to clarify is that it would be unwise to prohibit
>> discussions on the
Hello Martin,
Le 4 oct. 2010 à 19:45, Martin Hollmichel a écrit :
>
> Am 04.10.2010 19:10, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
>> Andreas, Luiz,
>>
>> Let's take a step back. Obviously verbal assault does not help and
>> should not be tolerated. So let's breathe a bit and calm down.
>>
>> Andreas, wha
On 10/04/2010 03:08 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Hi Drew,
Op 4-10-2010 20:19, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive
dialog
open and trying to find co
Hi Drew,
Op 4-10-2010 20:19, Drew Jensen schreef:
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive
dialog
open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives.
Hi Charles,
please let me offer a personal opinion to the topic ...
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:10:34 +0200
"Charles-H. Schulz" wrote:
> What I wanted to clarify is that it would be unwise to prohibit
> discussions on the OOo lists about TDF. It would be unwise and you
> would give the most blatant i
Hi Martin,
Le 4 oct. 10 à 20:37, Martin Hollmichel a écrit :
If Oracle no longer feels that it's objectives are in alignment
with those of the community at large, and therefore no longer
willing to sponsor the OpenOffice.org Community, then I believe it
best to make that statement publicly,
Drew,
Am 04.10.2010 20:19, schrieb Drew Jensen:
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive
dialog
open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives.
W
On 10/04/2010 01:54 PM, Ian wrote:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive dialog
open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives.
What are the different objectives of the two projects
On 04/10/2010 18:54, Ian wrote:
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Do you really want a receipt notification from everyone on this list,
Ian? Methinks your signature needs a tweak. ;-)
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On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 19:45 +0200, Martin Hollmichel wrote:
> An important point indeed is that both side keep the constructive dialog
> open and trying to find compromises between their different objectives.
What are the different objectives of the two projects in your view
Martin?
--
Ian
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Am 04.10.2010 19:10, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
Andreas, Luiz,
Let's take a step back. Obviously verbal assault does not help and
should not be tolerated. So let's breathe a bit and calm down.
Andreas, whatever your views are on what happened, please understand
that we, the people of the Docum
What I wanted to clarify is that it would be unwise to prohibit
discussions on the OOo lists about TDF. It would be unwise and you
would give the most blatant illustration that OOo is not a true
project, and simply a product. Both of us know that's not the right way
to work this out.
nobody pro
Andreas, Luiz,
Let's take a step back. Obviously verbal assault does not help and
should not be tolerated. So let's breathe a bit and calm down.
Andreas, whatever your views are on what happened, please understand
that we, the people of the Document Foundation, are OpenOffice.org just
as much as
Hi Luiz,
I would highly appreciate a different style of communication. This
is a public list and we certainly do not want to promote verbal
assaults, who ever you have been addressing in your previous
statement.
Thanks a lot!
Andreas
Am 04.10.2
hi,
Oracle knows how to threaten people covertly, not publicly takes his
actions behind the scenes. It is a coward! Go to OOcon to talk about
motorcycle trips, while the whole world expected a strong position on
the destination of the product she bought.
Oracle purchased a product, not conscious
Dear Ian,
Am 04.10.2010 17:55, schrieb Ian:
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 12:08 -0300, luiz wrote:
Hi,
huh ? I don't understand how this logo can be considered as balanced,
The DocumentFoundation has it's own product, and this is not
Op
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 12:08 -0300, luiz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > huh ? I don't understand how this logo can be considered as balanced,
> > The DocumentFoundation has it's own product, and this is not
> > OpenOffice.org, (/me is thinking of a similar campaign for say,
> > Macs, prepared for the fu
Hi,
> huh ? I don't understand how this logo can be considered as balanced,
> The DocumentFoundation has it's own product, and this is not
> OpenOffice.org, (/me is thinking of a similar campaign for say,
> Macs, prepared for the future by the independent and consumer driven
> Bung com
Am 04.10.2010 15:33, schrieb Paula Carmichael:
Checked the Logo and just want to say it is very balanced and tells the story
creatively. GOOD JOB to all on this project.
huh ? I don't understand how this logo can be considered as balanced,
The DocumentFoundation has it's own product, and this
Hi Bernhard,
Am 02.10.2010 00:55, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:
Hi all,
if I counted correctly, there have been 9 clear +1 votes and 4 mainly
positive reactions with some questions / reservation.
In my eyes this qualifies the logo to be called "official".
Bernhard Dippold schrieb:
Based on a d
Checked the Logo and just want to say it is very balanced and tells the story
creatively. GOOD JOB to all on this project.
Paula Carmichael
> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:46:55 +0200
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> To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [marketing] Result: Logo for th
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