[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Sophie
Hi Khirano, On 26/05/2011 01:34, Kazunari Hirano wrote: Hi Florian, Did TDF change its mission, from "the evolution of the OpenOffice.org Community"[1] to "the evolution of the LibreOffice Community"[2]? [1] http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/ this is the foundation [...] [2] htt

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Gozarks
For what it's worth, I think it is good that this discussion is being held here. What I see happening is that perspectives and ideas and difficulties are being openly discussed in a 'public' forum that is open to all who wish to be involved... and that this 'concept of openness' is what got me, per

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Alexandro, On 25/05/2011 23:02, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Volker Merschmann mailto:merschm...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Alexandro, 2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado mailto:j...@openoffice.org>>: > > OOo is certainly not death and to a point we've s

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Florian, Did TDF change its mission, from "the evolution of the OpenOffice.org Community"[1] to "the evolution of the LibreOffice Community"[2]? [1] http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/ Our Mission Our mission is to facilitate the evolution of the OpenOffice.org Community into a new o

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Goran Rakic
У сре, 25. 05 2011. у 15:02 -0500, Alexandro Colorado пише: > > We have added some new people in the past few weeks. Also chatted with other > developers that I hang out on IRC. That is great, I am looking forward for patches and code for all new features! As user and integrator I do not care whe

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Sophie
[resent and amended with the good address, my apologize to the moderators] Hi Alexandro, On 25/05/2011 23:02, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Volker Merschmann > wrote: > > Hi Alexandro, > > 2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Roman H. Gelbort
El 25/05/11 16:58, Volker Merschmann escribió: > This is not true and you know it. Can you name any new core developer > which has started to work on the project in the last six months? Volker... the core developers aren't the only VIP in the project! -- -

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: > Hi Alexandro, > > 2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado : > > > > OOo is certainly not death and to a point we've seen more developers > > coming through in the project which have legitimate concerns about this > > community to keep working. > > >

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi Alexandro, 2011/5/25 Alexandro Colorado : > > OOo is certainly not death and to a point we've seen more developers > coming through in the project which have legitimate concerns about this > community to keep working. > This is not true and you know it. Can you name any new core developer which

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Davide Dozza wrote: > Il 25/05/2011 16:55, Louis Suarez-Potts ha scritto: > > There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the > TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling > ones. > > > > And I also think we need

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Andy Brown
Davide Dozza wrote: Time is come. As still member of OOo community I *strongly* believe that such discussion should be made in public. Otherwise we (the community) still fall into our "narrow concers" as it was during last ten years. It is to bad that the "Community" does not have anything to

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Davide Dozza
Il 25/05/2011 16:55, Louis Suarez-Potts ha scritto: > There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the > TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling > ones. > > And I also think we need to proceed very carefully here. Not only for > "community

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Luiz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Em 25-05-2011 12:08, Gianvittorio escreveu: > Guys, > I am sure that a discussion in "neutral territory" can still mean a very > transparent and productive conversation too. > > Louis, > Which forum did you have in mind? As Florian said, I d

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Allen Pulsifer
Hello Louis, As a member of the community, I'm trying to understand the situation here, especially the situation from your point of view. The Document Foundation has made it clear that if there are no "negotiations" with OpenOffice.org, they will continue to develop and release the codebase under

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello everyone, 2011/5/25 Florian Effenberger > Hi, > > Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 16.55: > > There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the >> TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling >> ones. >> >> And I also think we need to

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 16.55: There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling ones. And I also think we need to proceed very carefully here. Not only for "community" reasons but

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Gianvittorio
Guys, I am sure that a discussion in "neutral territory" can still mean a very transparent and productive conversation too. Louis, Which forum did you have in mind? Gian On Wed 25/05/11 16:55 , Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com sent: > There are many good reasons to have any discussion

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the compelling ones. And I also think we need to proceed very carefully here. Not only for "community" reasons but also because a lot is at stake beyond our narrow c

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Sophie
Hi Florian, all, On 25/05/2011 17:00, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 14.33: Thanks, Florian for the long message :-) But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a word) presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides th

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25 14.33: Thanks, Florian for the long message :-) But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a word) presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides the obvious, that this is OOo-land, has to do with simply having a

[marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Thanks, Florian for the long message :-) But, can I request that we have such advocations (not sure that's a word) presented in a more neutral space? My reasoning, besides the obvious, that this is OOo-land, has to do with simply having a suitable forum for what is likely to be a protracted and

[marketing-dev] Why TDF should be the place for one united Community

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello everyone, I have not been subscribed to this list for months, but due to Louis' recent Cc, I was made aware of the discussion going on -- so, as a representant of TDF, but also as someone for whom personally the community means a lot, let me say a few words. I indeed see the current si