Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-10-02 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Graham, > Who will you receive the ad placement details from. How can we go > on when I didn't know we'd started. There seems to be stuff going > on here that is unknown to the community as a whole. I have to > admit to being somewhat confused. I'm sorry for the confusion... I'm still

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-10-02 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 19:41, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi Graham, > > > Should we take it from this that some sort of decision has been > > made at conference as to what's going to happen with the > > campaign? > > unfortunately not, we have been so busy with other meetings and > items. :-)

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-10-02 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Graham, > Should we take it from this that some sort of decision has been made > at conference as to what's going to happen with the campaign? unfortunately not, we have been so busy with other meetings and items. :-) But I will receive details on ad placement and size soon, so we can go on.

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-10-01 Thread Graham Lauder
On Monday 01 October 2007 22:51, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi Ben, > > > I'm here, I'm reading as much of the list as I can, and I am > > planning to get involved! (And quite excited to be working with > > this group!) > > > > I will be away at a friend's wedding tomorrow through Monday, > > but

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-10-01 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Ben, > I'm here, I'm reading as much of the list as I can, and I am planning > to get involved! (And quite excited to be working with this group!) > > I will be away at a friend's wedding tomorrow through Monday, but > want to do all I can to help out, and will try to be online even > while I'

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-29 Thread Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA
Graham, > In this particular case you unfortunately were in the right place at > the wrong time, and it's not about "Lingo".  Imagine if I went into > a Coke office and referred to their product as Sounds like you just referred to their product as "Coke" and the company as "Coke" when it is actu

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-28 Thread Graham Lauder
On Saturday 29 September 2007 02:50, Sean W. O'Quin wrote: > Graham, Hi Sean > > I apologize for not being hip to the OOo lingo and your scolding > has gotten me on track. You are correct that this is my first > venture to contribute on the community side but far from my last. In this particular

RE: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-28 Thread Sean W. O'Quin
Graham, I apologize for not being hip to the OOo lingo and your scolding has gotten me on track. You are correct that this is my first venture to contribute on the community side but far from my last. It is clear that you did not read into my message on what I believe can be a hindering point at

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 28 September 2007 14:31, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > Please pardon the giant "snip" and a reply to only one point in > Graham's note. I agree with all he said, but wanted to expand on > one item. Hi Jean, > > Graham Lauder wrote: > > We shouldn't be selling the software.[...] > > We need

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Please pardon the giant "snip" and a reply to only one point in Graham's note. I agree with all he said, but wanted to expand on one item. Graham Lauder wrote: We shouldn't be selling the software.[...] We need to be selling the migration process. Part of the support information for the mi

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 28 September 2007 11:42, Alexandro Colorado wrote: [] > > > > We shouldn't be selling the software. As Ian pointed out in an > > earlier post, > > the software sells itself when you get the chance to show it > > off. We need to be selling the migration process. > > We need to be sell

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 28 September 2007 06:02, Sean W. O'Quin wrote: > All, Greetings Sean, > This is a great thread for me to jump in and introduce myself. I am going > to be supporting the adoption of OpenOffice in Ecuador and Latin America. I > have over 10 years of software product marketing, technical m

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:09:27 -0500, Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 27 September 2007 18:51, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: > Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more > presence on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, > mugshot and so on.

RE: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Ian Lynch
rsday, September 27, 2007 1:07 PM > To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org > Subject: Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing > > On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 08:44 +0200, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: > > > I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works > > >

RE: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Sean W. O'Quin
x27;s would be much more receptive to this first step. -Original Message- From: Ian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:07 PM To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 08:44 +0200, Erwin Tenhu

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 08:44 +0200, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: > > I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works > > on a computer instead of OOo unless M$ is actually paying them to do > > it. > > System builders might not get money for installing MS Works, but they > migh

RE: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Sean W. O'Quin
rthy initiative. Regards, Sean W. O'Quin Quito, Ecuador -Original Message- From: Graham Lauder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:09 AM To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing On Thursday 27 September 2007 18:51, Er

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 01:28 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:22:49 -0500, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So how come Dell can put Ubuntu (with OOo in its machines and Lenovo is > > considering doing it for laptops?) Canonical - so as long as you have > > some s

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 27 September 2007 18:51, Erwin Tenhumberg wrote: > > Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more > > presence on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, > > mugshot and so on. > > > > Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that > > o

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Benjamin Horst
Hi guys, I'm here, I'm reading as much of the list as I can, and I am planning to get involved! (And quite excited to be working with this group!) I will be away at a friend's wedding tomorrow through Monday, but want to do all I can to help out, and will try to be online even while I'm there i

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I guess this should be reposted to native-lang mailing lists. On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:51:43 -0500, Erwin Tenhumberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more presence on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, mugshot and so o

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, > I'd like to return focus to the Marketing campaign proposals > > Was anything discussed at the conference, with regard to the campaign, that > those of us who couldn't attend should know about. nothing in concrete, but I will get back to this topic as soon as possible. I also contacted B

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
I can't see any economic reason for a system builder installing MS Works on a computer instead of OOo unless M$ is actually paying them to do it. System builders might not get money for installing MS Works, but they might get money (e.g. via revenue sharing) from selling upgrades to the full MS

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-27 Thread Erwin Tenhumberg
Things like the OOo facebook group, more Youtube Videos and more presence on things like stumble upon, digg, youtube, slideshare, mugshot and so on. Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that OOo ven

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:22:49 -0500, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So how come Dell can put Ubuntu (with OOo in its machines and Lenovo is considering doing it for laptops?) Canonical - so as long as you have some stable company pulling things together it doesn't seem too important how the

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 18:12 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> Also the need of more non profit entities in countries so that > >> openoffice.org scale to large deployments. basically we are finding that > >> OOo vendors hav e a hard time justifiying the product and the brand. > > > > Not sure

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:51:41 -0500, Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:31 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:12:27 -0500, Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome back to everybody after what looked like a very successful > conference

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:31 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:12:27 -0500, Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Welcome back to everybody after what looked like a very successful > > conference. > > > > I'd like to return focus to the Marketing campaign prop

Re: [Marketing] Return to the marketing

2007-09-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:12:27 -0500, Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Welcome back to everybody after what looked like a very successful conference. I'd like to return focus to the Marketing campaign proposals Was anything discussed at the conference, with regard to the campaign,