Regarding JRE/JDK...
I thought one of the driving things about “modules” in new java release (I
believe Java 11ish) was to make it so that a modularize jre could be created
with only elements needed being included and the. That “custom” JRE would be
embedded with the product. So would linking b
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:46, Emilian Bold wrote:
> Did you manage to digitally sign the EXE on Linux?
No, that's one thing I haven't looked at yet. As far as I know it's
feasible though. Did a fair bit of reading around Electron packaging
when making a choice of what to go with - various discus
Did you manage to digitally sign the EXE on Linux?
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 13:13, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 10:17, Mark Phipps wrote:
> > It is NBI for several reasons:
>
> Thanks. Some thoughts inline.
>
> > 1. afaik it's the way that NetBeans IDE up to 8.2 was installed - why
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 10:17, Mark Phipps wrote:
> It is NBI for several reasons:
Thanks. Some thoughts inline.
> 1. afaik it's the way that NetBeans IDE up to 8.2 was installed - why
> can't it be used for 10.0, 11.0 ?
It relies on the user already having a JRE/JDK installed, or bundling
o
> I believe that NBI has legs, at least as a way for NB Platform
applications to fill the gap left by the demise of Java Web Start. As I
have said before, I don't understand well how the NBI system works (yet
- I am trying), but I can't see any good reason why it should be abandoned.
I suspect ver
On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 at 22:57, Wade Chandler wrote:
> Too, it seems we could provide an installer that downloads the JDK for the
> end user, but that also can create and output a bundled installer for that
> end user; they would be building and distributing it. They could then place
> that on any se
Hi Neil,
It is NBI for several reasons:
1. afaik it's the way that NetBeans IDE up to 8.2 was installed - why
can't it be used for 10.0, 11.0 ?
2. part of the NB code base
3. baked into Ant - right click on an Ant-based NB Platform project and
choose "Generate installers"
4. baked int
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, 16:15 Mark Phipps Whatever solutions you decide are best for installing NetBeans IDE
> itself, application providers need a way to bundle a JRE within the
> installer. I presume that everyone is still minded to use the NBI
> framework to accomplish this?
>
Personally, not in t
of where and why we are where we are:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Installers
Thanks,
Gj
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> DMG. It isn’t worth it when the problem is so easily avoided.
>
> Scott
>
> > On Feb 2, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Emilian Bold
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, I saw this comment on
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+Net
n
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Installers
>
> This debate was had once about 14 years ago - and the decision to go with
>> .pkg installers on Mac OSX was made for this reason: There were a lot of
>> "NetBeans is unusably slow&qu
> My understanding is you could create a
bundler that is clear to spell out it is a bundler, and is just installing
"Apache NetBeans + AdoptOpenJDK" as an example as long as it is just a
redistribution of unchanged parts.
I haven't seen this spelled out as such, although it's been mentioned like
t
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 15:43 Emilian Bold <
>
> If Apache gets more lenient / clear on bundling I could also create a
> 'vanilla NetBeans' package with no bits changed except the additional JDK.
> Although I suspect the general idea is for Oracle or Amazon to do some
> JDK+NetBeans bundle release an
> A non-Java NetBeans installer that can optionally download a
JDK and configure it for the IDE (not necessarily installed globally) might
be something we can explore.
It's somewhat odd to download a big installer then have the installer
download the big JDK... but it's the best we can do and prob
On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 20:50 Emilian Bold > Whereas we need to provide an option to install a JRE/JDK as part of the
> installation process. Or do you have that?
>
> I don't have / need that (since I can just bundle the JDK, no?).
>
Yes. Just wondered.
>
> For starters just relying on users manuall
> Well, the key thing as far as I remember is that you're bundling the JDK?
Correct.
> Whereas we need to provide an option to install a JRE/JDK as part of the
installation process. Or do you have that?
I don't have / need that (since I can just bundle the JDK, no?).
For starters just relying o
On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 17:58 Emilian Bold I can share the CoolBeans installers but they are no big deal, not
> sure if they are good enough for NetBeans...
>
Well, the key thing as far as I remember is that you're bundling the JDK?
Whereas we need to provide an option to install a JRE/JDK as part of
hink it's important that both the DMG and the EXE are digitally
> > signed.
> > > Windows particularly has very scary warning messages for unsigned EXEs.
> > >
> > > --emi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:14 PM Ge
2, 2019 at 5:14 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Tried to gather different threads together in the below to get a
> thorough
> > > overview of where and why we are where we are:
> > >
Oh, I saw this comment on
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Installers
This debate was had once about 14 years ago - and the decision to go with
> .pkg installers on Mac OSX was made for this reason: There were a lot of
> "NetBeans is un
o gather different threads together in the below to get a thorough
> > overview of where and why we are where we are:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Installers
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Installers
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
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On 2/2/19 7:08 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Hi all,
Tried to gather different threads together in the below to get a thorough
overview of where and why we are where we are:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Installers
Hi all,
Tried to gather different threads together in the below to get a thorough
overview of where and why we are where we are:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Installers
Thanks,
Gj
Hi all,
Tried to gather different threads together in the below to get a thorough
overview of where and why we are where we are:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Installers
Thanks,
Gj
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