Selenium projects are under the Apache 2.0 license. So, what are we
waiting to integrate it ?
http://selenium-ide.seleniumhq.org/license.jsp
Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
I just wanted to remember any interested person about the Selenium
lience issue we crossed some times ago and is still
There is a subtlety that has been mentioned a few times but may be
easy to miss: Selenium may be Apache 2.0 licensed but it evidently
depends on GPL/LGPL libraries (or at least it used to and may still,
some people were going to look into that again now), and we'd have to
include those
so can we make it work, put everything in the trunk except the selenium
files, and let the user add himself the selenium files ?
In order to start the tests, we could think about the places to record
the tests, and also the different scenarios we would like to be tested.
Have we yet decided
Erwan,
The files that are not Apache compatible in the Selenium-RC distribution
come from selenium-server.jar and are as follows:
core/lib/cssQuery
- cssQuery-p.js
- cssQuery-level2.js
- cssQuery-level3.js
- cssQuery-standard.js
- cssQuery.js
- xbDebug.js
- compiler.js
- strands.js
In my
Just curious on these:
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/
http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/gpl-compatible.html
Is GPL/LGPL 3.0 compatible with Apache License 2.0 in a single
direction?
Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
在 2008-11-25二的 11:50 -0700，Brett Palmer写道：
Erwan,
The files that are not
http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
Shi Yusen sent the following on 11/25/2008 11:09 AM:
Just curious on these:
http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/
http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/gpl-compatible.html
Is GPL/LGPL 3.0 compatible with Apache License 2.0 in a single
Thanks. It's very clear now.
Two maintains.
Perhaps somebody should setup a project in 3rd parties such
as sourceforge to resolve this problem as it's suggested:
Please note that this discussion only benefits third parties that
produce GPL-covered products.
And list it in a wiki page.
Glad to
Thats the way I interpreted it also
:D
David E Jones sent the following on 11/25/2008 11:40 AM:
There are two sides of compatibility.
This means that GPL/LGPL licensed works can include Apache 2.0 licensed
works. It does NOT mean (and on that page it even clearly states) that
ASF projects
To remove all license problem, the Brett's solution to download all
elements need to run selenium script with a bad license for ASF. We can
create selenium script under Apache2.0 license without problem. It's the
same for jdbc driver, mysql connector is under GPL.
We just have to gain for the
Cobertura is a good Free Software alternative to Clover. It may not be
everything that Clover is but its certainly not too bad.
http://webslinger.org/cobertura/
- Jacques Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious, have you ever used/tested Clover
Ean Schuessler wrote:
Cobertura is a good Free Software alternative to Clover. It may not be
everything that Clover is but its certainly not too bad.
Except that it is gpl. There are no apache-compatible coverage tools.
I looked :(
However, any modifications I can come up with to ofbiz, to
Several times now I have seen statement that non Apache-products can't or
shouldn't be used because they gpl or hpl (even worse as somebody
mentioned). That sounds like 'we don't want it, because we (as in ASF
commiters) didn't invent it.
In my humble opinion this is not kosher. If a good product
Hi Pierre
It has nothing to do with who invented it, it's about the restrictions
that other licenses place on the software. GPL type licenses are
simply not compatible with the Apache license. If you want to know
more you should google the topic but it is definitely not a matter of
pride.
Glad finnally you point this out. The licenses shouldn't the excuse to
cease OFBiz's progress.
I think it's easy enough to write such things in build.xml and download
the jars during build though the jars are not allowed to put into
Apache's svn.
Shi Yusen/Beijing Langhua Ltd.
在 2008-11-13四的
Pierre,
The not invented here excuse? I do so wish it were that simple.
Unfortunately, it is not. Fortunately, OFBiz is way more mature than
that and the people involved are way more mature and experienced than
that.
OFBiz has well over 100 third party libraries in it and most of those
Thanks. I see now. For some other open source communities, they may say
no Apache license as they may have their own brand.
Some bridges are needed.
I'll build a community website (langhua.org) in 2009. I'll use this
slogan for the community: they are mountains, we are a small valley.
Regards,
Thanks Ean,
I just found that Clover is free for open source projects and non-profit
institutions like ASF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlassian_clover
Cobertura looks good too (but I have no more to say at this stage).
Jacques
From: Ean Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cobertura is a good
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Thanks Ean,
I just found that Clover is free for open source projects and non-profit
institutions like ASF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlassian_clover
So non-free then.
On Nov 13, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Adam Heath wrote:
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Thanks Ean,
I just found that Clover is free for open source projects and non-
profit
institutions like ASF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlassian_clover
So non-free then.
... AND non-open-source.
It would be nice
Thanks Brett,
This question because maybe we could get a free licence in the ASF context, not
sure though
Jacques
From: Brett Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jacques,
I've worked with people that have used it and they speak very highly of the
product. I haven't tried it myself though.
Brett
On
This is correct. I know that Brett is going to take the ball and dig
in on the license issue a bit more this next week. It kinda depends
on whether or not we can help to change some of the GPL libs in the
product in order to make it fully Apache compliant - regardless, it's
a great
Hi Brett,
Just curious, have you ever used/tested Clover
http://www.atlassian.com/software/clover/ ?
Thanks
Jacques
From: Brett Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FYI,
Here is the link to the presentation on Selenium that I gave at the
ApacheCon/OFBiz conference this week. There were several good
Jacques,
I've worked with people that have used it and they speak very highly of the
product. I haven't tried it myself though.
Brett
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Jacques Le Roux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Brett,
Just curious, have you ever used/tested Clover
FYI,
Here is the link to the presentation on Selenium that I gave at the
ApacheCon/OFBiz conference this week. There were several good presentations
on OFBiz this week. Most of these are available at the us.apahecon.comwebsite.
Thank you Brett,
very interesting presentation. We sure should have these tests included
as part of the application test.
Actually all of the OFBiz presentations are available at the following
links:
http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2008/schedule/2008/11/05
Thanks for the link Brett,
Much appreciated
Jacques
From: Brett Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FYI,
Here is the link to the presentation on Selenium that I gave at the
ApacheCon/OFBiz conference this week. There were several good presentations
on OFBiz this week. Most of these are available at
I just wanted to remember any interested person about the Selenium lience issue
we crossed some times ago and is still existing I'm
pretty sure (did not check though)
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-680?focusedCommentId=12470728#action_12470728
There is where we see what GPL viral
Thanks Brett, Hans much appreciated.
Kind Regards
--
Pranay Pandey
On Nov 8, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
Thank you Brett,
very interesting presentation. We sure should have these tests
included
as part of the application test.
Actually all of the OFBiz presentations are
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