Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
I am guessing the winner is going to be struts1/struts2 So if struts1 is: org.apache.struts If struts2: org.apache.struts2 ? Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/29/06, Don Brown wrote: > > I like struts1/struts2. +1 Niall > Don -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 6/29/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like struts1/struts2. +1 Niall Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Shale to Become Top-Level ASF Project

2006-06-28 Thread hermod.opstvedt
Hi Great news :) Hermod -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Cooper Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:11 AM To: announcements@struts.apache.org; user@struts.apache.org; Struts Developers List Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Shale to Become Top-Leve

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 6/28/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/28/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ted Husted wrote: > > Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use > > > >> repos/asf/struts/struts1 > >> repos/asf/struts/struts2 > > > > Or > > > >> repos/asf/struts/framework > >>

Help in switching from http to https in struts

2006-06-28 Thread bhanuprakash.singh
Hi , Iam developing application in struts which has login page and when username and password are given it should be authenticated and the page should be switched to https I had made necessary changes to include and login-config to include the user properties but the /display.jsp /error.jsp i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Cooper
On 6/28/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ted Husted wrote: > Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use > >> repos/asf/struts/struts1 >> repos/asf/struts/struts2 > > Or > >> repos/asf/struts/framework >> repos/asf/struts/framework2 I like struts1/struts2. Yep, I do too. It

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Michael Jouravlev wrote: If this "not caring about any of that" is anything like ASP.NET coding, that this is not exactly true. Like, in ASP.NET there is a well-defined lifecycle. But if you (well, me) wants to get rid of POSTDATA situation, you need to call Response.redirect explicitly from even

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/28/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev wrote: > From webapp > point of view, Command is as bad as Action. Meaning that HttpServlet > has doGet() and doPost() and therefore forces people to think what > kind of request they are processing and what method is bett

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 6/28/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why does having the departure of Shale instigate nomenclature madness? :-) Struts Action Framework is actually a very professional title and I prefer we keep it as is. When Shale arrived, we tried various ways to differentiate the original

Re: Thoughts on 1.3.x

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Paul Benedict wrote: I have two concerns on the 1.3.x line. What do you think? 1) Spring 2.0 has fabulous support for dependency injection for Struts. In particular, the great Autowiring(Tiles)RequestProcessor will automatically inject dependencies into the actions as they are created. This su

Re: Thoughts on 1.3.x

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Paul, not related to your issues (and I do not have answer/opinion on them), but more related to the message header: see more 1.3 issues/features/questions here: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/SAF1RoughSpots I don't know what is the best place to discuss all this stuff, here or in Wiki. I am ok wi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
That's a good point Michael. My answer to it would be that it's just something we have to live with. Paul used the term "generation" to differentiate Struts 1.x from 2.x... to me though, "generation" has the same connotation as does "classic". I don't think there's any real contradiction tho

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
My two cents: I am okay with 1.x and 2.x numbering. It doesn't bother me. I look at them in terms of generations; different people who can live together in one family (webapp). Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In this case we are returning to a half-year old situation, that is, Stru

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
In this case we are returning to a half-year old situation, that is, Struts 2 is a new crown holder of a single unified project. Consider the announcements like this: "Struts team is proud to announce immediate availability of Struts 2.0 as a next version of popular Struts framework. New features

Thoughts on 1.3.x

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
I have two concerns on the 1.3.x line. What do you think? 1) Spring 2.0 has fabulous support for dependency injection for Struts. In particular, the great Autowiring(Tiles)RequestProcessor will automatically inject dependencies into the actions as they are created. This supports the "legacy" Re

Re: 1.x - DTD Attribute Proposal

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
I temporarly withdrawl the proposal. It cannot be well represented until there is a component like view of the action classes, which you are proposing. If your stuff gets accepted, then perhaps I can add onto it. But until then... Paul Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/27/06, Mi

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Michael Jouravlev wrote: Command is only better because it does not throw HTTP stuff right in one's face. Precisely the point :) > Is it really better? Maybe just for testing. Not just for testing... wouldn't it be great if you could take that same controller code, the code that really form

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
I am very much against naming 1.x "Classic" . I think it's a horrible name. I think of classical music, classic cars, and anything that smells of belonging in a museum (stationary, old, idle, doesn't move, better looked at than used). Why do we need it? I am totally fond of action and action2. W

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
I propose code names Velvet and Rubert. Any objections? Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mua-ha-ha :-)) +1 on renaming back. Also, hoping not to hijaack this thread I would suggest coming up with codenames for 1.x and 2.x codebases. This had been suggested and discussed long ago but

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
Niall's response has softened my position on the built-in action dispatching. In my own projects, I went ahead and created a common BaseAction which all my other actions extend from. The BaseAction uses EventDispatcherAction with a pre-written execute method for the dispatching; subclasses just

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Benedict
Did I miss something? :-) Perhaps the deliberations went on in private, because it's news to me!!! Congrats on Shale blossoming into its own project. Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With the departure of Struts Shale, I think it is time we return to the idea of Struts as a single, unified

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
I think it is as simple as Struts 1.3, Struts 1.4, Struts 2.0, Struts 2.1, etc... The whole point of this proposal is to unify Struts as a single project, getting away from this concept of separately versioned "subprojects". There will be Struts 1.x releases, and there will be Struts 2.x rele

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
You mean, Struts 2.0 version 2.0, then Struts 2.0 version 2.1, Struts 2.0 version 2.2, ..., Struts 2.0 version 3.0, ..., Struts 2.0 version 4.0 :-) 2.0 is a version number, while we are choosing project names (Are we?) Do we treat Struts2 as the next version, or do we treat Struts and Struts2 as

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
Ted Husted wrote: Though, there's no reason why we couldn't use repos/asf/struts/struts1 repos/asf/struts/struts2 Or repos/asf/struts/framework repos/asf/struts/framework2 I like struts1/struts2. Don -Ted. -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Big +1. I just wish we could have done it months ago when I (and others) said exactly the same thing. Oh well, better late then never. Frank Don Brown wrote: With the departure of Struts Shale, I think it is time we return to the idea of Struts as a single, unified framework. While I had ho

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/28/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you think of... > > repos/asf/struts/struts > repos/asf/struts/struts2 Very true, I forgot that we have different directories for SAF1 and SAF2. The struts/struts is redundant, but I could live with that. But ViewVC might not :)

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Bob Lee
+1 for Struts 2.0 Bob On 6/28/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With the departure of Struts Shale, I think it is time we return to the idea of Struts as a single, unified framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own pr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
I'm against "official" code names. We have had enough confusion in Struts with different names meaning different things, and we shouldn't pile on more names. If folks want to off-hand use code names, that's fine, but to have them used in code or documentation is too far. Version 1 and 2 are si

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Ted Husted
On 6/28/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, hoping not to hijaack this thread I would suggest coming up with codenames for 1.x and 2.x codebases. If we were to do that, the obvious choices would be Classic for 1.x and Action for 2.x. -Ted. --

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
Wendy Smoak wrote: On 6/28/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/action subversion directory as https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/framework, keep the other top level directories the same What do you think of... repos/asf

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 6/28/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2. We rename the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/action subversion directory as https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/framework, keep the other top level directories the same What do you think of... repos/asf/struts/struts repos

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Mua-ha-ha :-)) +1 on renaming back. Also, hoping not to hijaack this thread I would suggest coming up with codenames for 1.x and 2.x codebases. This had been suggested and discussed long ago but was rejected. Why codenames make sense: * Job search. SAF1 and SAF2... oh... I mean, Struts 1.x and

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/28/06, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I haven't read Michaels latest write up, so I don't know if its substantially different, but last time I looked the only reason for integrating the "dispatch" style into Action was (IMO) to encourage its use. If thats still true then my opini

[PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Don Brown
With the departure of Struts Shale, I think it is time we return to the idea of Struts as a single, unified framework. While I had hoped we could do this by including Shale, everyone involved felt Shale deserved its own project and so I'm adjusting my original Struts 2.0 proposal to simply rena

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Shale to Become Top-Level ASF Project

2006-06-28 Thread Peter Pilgrim
Martin Cooper wrote: On behalf of the ASF Board and Struts PMC, we are pleased to announce that Shale has been accepted as a top-level project of the Apache Software Foundation. As a top-level project, Shale will have its own website, mailing lists, repository space, and Project Management Commi

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Shale to Become Top-Level ASF Project

2006-06-28 Thread Martin Cooper
On behalf of the ASF Board and Struts PMC, we are pleased to announce that Shale has been accepted as a top-level project of the Apache Software Foundation. As a top-level project, Shale will have its own website, mailing lists, repository space, and Project Management Committee. Shale will be an

Re: OGNL - Getter and setter types must match

2006-06-28 Thread Laurie Harper
The restriction comes from the Java relection API semantics, not OGNL. A property can only have one type, so it makes sense that the getter and setter for a JavaBean property must agree on that type. Changing this would break compatibility with the JavaBean specification, at the least... L. I

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Niall Pemberton
I haven't read Michaels latest write up, so I don't know if its substantially different, but last time I looked the only reason for integrating the "dispatch" style into Action was (IMO) to encourage its use. If thats still true then my opinion is unchanged: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I'm on the same page as Hubert, as an outsider... I totally see this as being a worthy "extras", and probably something a lot of people would use, but integrated into the core, it just doesn't feel right to me. Frank Hubert Rabago wrote: I like the functionality that this provides. If I ever

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Hubert Rabago
I like the functionality that this provides. If I ever get to work on another Struts 1 project, I would certainly like to use this. That said, I'm -0 to integrating it, but I won't stand in the way if other committers accept it. I think though that it works well enough without being integrated

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Hubert Rabago
On 6/28/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Integrating html2 would be nice too. It uses Ajax as well, so the two engines can be combined into one. In relation to html2, I am curious about how important client-side validator is. I mean, comparing Ajax roundrip to amount of Javascri

Re: Help in switching from http to https

2006-06-28 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 6/28/06, bhanu_gulbarga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Iam developing application in struts ... Please post your question on the user list. See: http://struts.apache.org/mail.html Or, since your message footer indicates that you're using Nabble: http://www.nabble.com/Struts---User-f206.html

Help in switching from http to https

2006-06-28 Thread bhanu_gulbarga
Hi , Iam developing application in struts which has login page and when username and password are given it should be authenticated and the page should be switched to https I had made necessary changes to include and login-config to include the user properties but the /display.jsp /error.js

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Michael Jouravlev wrote: In relation to html2, I am curious about how important client-side validator is. I mean, comparing Ajax roundrip to amount of Javascript preloaded for client-side validation, does it really make sense? And if a form is filled out correctly, this validator code is not used

Login application and switching from http to https

2006-06-28 Thread bhanu
Iam devloping sample login application in struts which should switch to https if the credential are correct i made the necessary modification in web.xml to contain the form-auth parameters and in the login-config.xml I have made necessary modifcations props/web-console-users.properties but the p

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Paul, thanks for the warm support, I really appreciate it! Well, I cannot thank you more, my ears are all red :-) In any case, I think we can wait until 1.3.5 goes GA before making a final decision about where this code belongs. In the meantime I will continue working on it. Integrating html2 wo