Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.3.7 Quality

2007-03-01 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/1/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/1/07, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ ] Leave at test build > [ ] Alpha > [X ] Beta > [ ] General Availability (GA) > > I cast my vote to fix ActionRedirect in 1.3.8: > https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/STR-3009 > > Do

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.3.7 Quality

2007-02-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 2/28/07, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev wrote: > Paul, do you think that STR-3009 -- ActionRedirect from ForwardConfig > not redirecting properly -- should be fixed for 1.3.7 to minimize the > impact of 1.3.5 ActionRedirect behavior? > I believe

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.3.7 Quality

2007-02-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 2/25/07, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Struts 1.3.7 test build is now available. Release notes: * http://struts.apache.org/1.x/userGuide/release-notes.html Distribution: * http://people.apache.org/builds/struts/1.3.7/ Maven 2 staging repository: * http://people.apache.org/bui

Re: Extra parameter value for DispatchAction.

2007-02-26 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Dilep, use struts-user forum for questions like this. On 2/26/07, Dilep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Is there a way to pass a extra paramameter for DispatchAction apart from parameter=method. "parameter=method" is not meant to pass parameters to an action, parameters are passed in request ob

Struts 1 taglib: freeze improvements/fixes

2007-02-16 Thread Michael Jouravlev
There are several tickets concerning S1 taglib, either bugs or extensions. My position is that JSTL should be used instead of Struts tags whenever possible. tags are exception because they build property keypath into corresponding HTML tag's "name" attribute. Nested tags may be other tags preferr

Problems with apache website?

2007-02-12 Thread Michael Jouravlev
About an hour ago I could not access http://struts.apache.org/1.3.5, now I cannot access http://wiki.apache.org/struts/, returns 500 Internal Server Error. Is this a know issue, someone is working on this? Michael. - To unsubscr

Re: Branch 1.3.x and label head 1.4.0

2007-02-09 Thread Michael Jouravlev
There are STRUTS_1_3_BRANCH and trunk now. What does trunk represent? 1.4? Or something else? On 2/8/07, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Struts 1.3 has been branched: > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=505116 > Added: > struts/struts1/branches/STRUTS_1_3_BRANCH/ >

Re: Branch 1.3.x and label head 1.4.0 (was Re: Branch 2.0.x and label head 2.1.0)

2007-02-08 Thread Michael Jouravlev
I am OK with branching. Not that I really need it right now, but it does not hurt, should be helpful. +0 from me. On 2/8/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think just go ahead and create the branch. Tags/Branches in svn are cheap and if anyone doesn't like it can always be re-done/

Re: Rollover scope for Struts 1.3.x

2006-10-10 Thread Michael Jouravlev
I am back from vacation and ready to finish this task :) On 9/15/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My biggest concern is that, according to the current proposal, you cannot use request scope and flash scope together. So if I have bean X that's request scope, and bean Y that's flash sc

Re: Rollover scope for Struts 1.3.x

2006-09-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 9/15/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/15/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/14/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In Shale, the closest analog to this is Dialog scope, and we're building > t

Re: Rollover scope for Struts 1.3.x

2006-09-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 9/15/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/14/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Shale, the closest analog to this is Dialog scope, and we're building the > concept of a scope instance per window/frame, independent of what that >

Re: Rollover scope for Struts 1.3.x

2006-09-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 9/14/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In Shale, the closest analog to this is Dialog scope, and we're building the concept of a scope instance per window/frame, independent of what that window/frame is actually doing. I believe this requires usage of Javascript? So you would h

Re: Rollover scope for Struts 1.3.x

2006-09-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 9/14/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/14/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone wants to share their thoughts on rollover scope? > http://wiki.apache.org/struts/RolloverScope > > I was thinking on using Stripes approach

Re: [VOTE] Promote Struts 1.3.5 to General Availability

2006-09-14 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 9/13/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please respond with a vote on GA quality for Struts 1.3.5 [X] +1Yes, Struts 1.3.5 should be promoted to GA quality. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additi

Rollover scope for Struts 1.3.x

2006-09-14 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Anyone wants to share their thoughts on rollover scope? http://wiki.apache.org/struts/RolloverScope I was thinking on using Stripes approach, but I don't like to mange URLs. Also, Stripes uses a timer to remove unused rollover scopes, this does not seem very straightforward to me, from a user's p

Re: Private Actions Mappings?

2006-09-13 Thread Michael Jouravlev
gt; like including a tile with an associated tile controller. > The action > > then just puts data into scope for the JSP to display. > > > > What I didn't understand was, "It can also decide the flow > of display > > by selecting the appropriate forward.&quo

Re: Private Actions Mappings?

2006-09-13 Thread Michael Jouravlev
This topic NOT about chaining (Paul, I am very sorry to bring the chaining up). What Paul talks about is including an action URL into a JSP page. Consider a Model 1 application, JSP page can dynamically include other resources with or with . Now consider that a JSP page includes a Struts action

Re: Private Actions Mappings?

2006-09-10 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Martin, it seems to me that you explained the pitfalls of action chaining, not of action including. The dev list displays a lot of stuff for "action including" but nothing really relevant. It has one entry though for "action chaining" written by you long time ago: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l

Re: Private Actions Mappings?

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Jouravlev
.. What did I miss or get wrong? On 9/7/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/6/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/6/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The action is (intended to be) the class that handles the entire &g

Re: Private Actions Mappings?

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 9/7/06, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev ha scritto: > Using actions is a totally legitimate way to build composite page. I disagree, to build composite pages I will use "composite view" pattern implementation, such as Tiles and Sitemesh.

Re: Private Actions Mappings?

2006-09-06 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 9/6/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The action is (intended to be) the class that handles the entire request, whether that involves parcelling out the work to other classes or not. An action was designed to be the end point of the request, not one of a set that handles the request

Re: Private Actions Mappings?

2006-09-06 Thread Michael Jouravlev
I should have kept my mouth shut ;-) Paul's suggestion is *not* about chaining (while it *may* indirectly promote it). As I understand it, Paul builds a page out of smaller blocks, each block is rendered by an action. I do the same thing and I do not oppose Paul in this regard. You are saying tha

Re: Private Actions Mappings?

2006-09-06 Thread Michael Jouravlev
I don't care much about this... I would say -0. I see that you use includes primarily for composition. I use included actions also as request targets, I need them to be accessed from browser, i.e. public, so your suggestion is of no use for me. If you need this feature then who am I to oppose :-

Re: [user-question] Forward back to the page you came from

2006-08-30 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 8/30/06, Thomas Hamacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear everyone, after spending a lot of time with googling and multiple tries with different approaches and also my questions to the struts-user-mailinglist didnĀ“t come to a solution, I would like to as you guys if there is a way or not. So I

Re: [jira] Created: (STR-2939) Provide a conversation scope (syn: Flash scope, dialog scope) object to store data between requests.

2006-08-30 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 8/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally, I don't like the idea of the framework itself relying on heavy use of the HttpSession and "hiding" it in this way. There are many cases when you want to avoid use of HttpSession for scalability reasons (there's that word ;) )

Re: [Semi-OT] Possible Scopes incubation (WAS: Re: [jira] Created: (STR-2939) Provide a conversation scope (syn: Flash scope, dialog scope) object to store data between requests.)

2006-08-30 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 8/30/06, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev ha scritto: > Hi Antonio, > > I looked through your code, it is quite clear, so I started pulling > needed stuff from your library and sticking it into Struts. I also > want this scope to be availab

Re: [jira] Created: (STR-2939) Provide a conversation scope (syn: Flash scope, dialog scope) object to store data between requests.

2006-08-30 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 8/30/06, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev ha scritto: > I have another suggestion: storing data right in the request object > instead of having a dedicated scope object. Then, on redirection, > pushing appropriate items to the session, using ite

Re: [jira] Created: (STR-2939) Provide a conversation scope (syn: Flash scope, dialog scope) object to store data between requests.

2006-08-29 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 8/29/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please, if we're going to consider adding a flash / click / dialog / whatever scope, let's decouple it from redirection. Such an intermediate scope has potential uses that have nothing to do with redirection, so it needs to be workable even for

Re: [jira] Created: (STR-2939) Provide a conversation scope (syn: Flash scope, dialog scope) object to store data between requests.

2006-08-29 Thread Michael Jouravlev
ther a message(s) or error(s) that survive a redirect. Not sure of the scenario where you want the entire Action on the other end... - Chris Mathews http://www.javaranch.com -Original Message- From: Michael Jouravlev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:19 PM To: S

Re: [jira] Created: (STR-2939) Provide a conversation scope (syn: Flash scope, dialog scope) object to store data between requests.

2006-08-29 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 8/29/06, Antonio Petrelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev (JIRA) ha scritto: > In addition to standard J2EE scopes (page for JSP, request, session and application) provide a new scope object that would hold data between requests. Similar facilities in Tapestry and St

Re: Why Back Button pertube an Action ?

2006-08-21 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 8/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello , I search a lot but i don't find so i write to you. Please use Struts Users Mailing List (user@struts.apache.org) for questions. If you want to reply, please do so to the user list. If you have experience this problem , thank fo

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.3.5 Quality

2006-07-27 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/23/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Struts 1.3.5 Test Build is available to evaluate for release quality. The release plan is available on the wiki: * http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease135 The test build, including checksums and signatures, has been deployed t

Re: DefaultActionMapper compatablity switch

2006-07-25 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/25/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/25/06, Jason Carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > @Action to mark it as an Action method? Stripes uses the annontation @DefaultHandler where we would configure a default action, which might imply the annotation @Handler for what we are talk

Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsDocComments" by MichaelJouravlev

2006-07-24 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/22/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/22/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really don't like calling action a handler. Well yes, it is a > request handler, but I would like to reserve "handler" as in "event > handler&qu

Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsDocComments" by MichaelJouravlev

2006-07-22 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/22/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/22/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would really like to rewrite the whole User's Guide, but this is too > much of a job, and someone would have to proofread it after this > anyway ;) So I wi

Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsDocComments" by MichaelJouravlev

2006-07-21 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/21/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/21/06, Apache Wiki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Wiki user, > > You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Struts Wiki" for change notification. > > The following page has been changed by MichaelJouravlev: > http://wiki.apa

Re: frames with struts

2006-07-20 Thread Michael Jouravlev
http://struts.apache.org/mail.html On 7/20/06, zeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I want to do a dynamic page with something like frames. I don't know if struts has some similar solution. Can't you help me,please??!! Thanks! Zeta

Re: StrutsWebService

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/18/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev wrote: > This posting is about a year old. How a web service can be implemented > with 1.3 chain? Stick webservice preprocessing command into a chain, > it unwraps SOAP envelope, sticks input data into c

StrutsWebService

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Jouravlev
From wiki [1], originally posted by Frank Z: "My solution was to write a custom request processor that could recognize a Web Service request (SOAP over HTTP). It would be able to "unroll" the SOAP request, then let Struts process the request as it usually would, and then render the response. My

Re: Struts 1 (and possibly Struts 2) terminology: what is Action/Command

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/18/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/18/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does anyone have better term for Action/Command? In other places, I refer to such things casually as "handlers". People have often used this word on the list t

Struts 1 (and possibly Struts 2) terminology: what is Action/Command

2006-07-18 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Struts 1 documentation does not use word "dispatcher", and it uses verb "dispatch" just only couple of times. This causes terminology problems around Struts components. Pre-1.3 Struts versions worked around this issue using terms "action-based" or "action-oriented", but with 1.3 this terminology f

Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsWebService" by MichaelJouravlev

2006-07-17 Thread Michael Jouravlev
still thought there was more to the web service page, but maybe not. The memory is the first thing to go they say :) Frank Michael Jouravlev wrote: > Is it better now? I guess I should stop fiddling with wiki for today ;-) > > On 7/17/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &

Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsWebService" by MichaelJouravlev

2006-07-17 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Is it better now? I guess I should stop fiddling with wiki for today ;-) On 7/17/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael, it looks like this update got botched a bit... or maybe your still working on it, in which case ignore this... it looks like some of the content from the web

Re: 1.x docs & Maven

2006-07-17 Thread Michael Jouravlev
ion to the end of the Release Guidelines. There are a few guidelines in place for the s2 wiki, but they are targetted for Confluence. * http://confluence.twdata.org/display/WW/Documentation+Style+Guide As far as the docs and the codebase go, the 1.3.5 version is tagged, and so people should f

1.x docs & Maven

2006-07-17 Thread Michael Jouravlev
I guess this issue is Maven-related. If chapter is declared using "href" for links, links are not generated in HTML. For example: produces the following HTML, notice that there is no link: Prerequisite Software There are other chapters that define links using standard "A" tag, they do work:

Re: How about creating a Shale wiki?

2006-07-13 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Oops, works again. Spooky. On 7/13/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any idea about what happens to wiki? It stopped to be accessible right now. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For addi

Re: How about creating a Shale wiki?

2006-07-13 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Any idea about what happens to wiki? It stopped to be accessible right now. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How about creating a Shale wiki?

2006-07-13 Thread Michael Jouravlev
This directive #redirect works, but it puts couple of parameters in the URL, also it shows a "redirected from page ..." on top of the page. On 7/13/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/13/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At present time S

How about creating a Shale wiki?

2006-07-13 Thread Michael Jouravlev
At present time Struts wiki contains Shale info. I guess it belongs to Shale wiki if it exists. I think it does not exist yet. Someone with appropriate rights should create new entry on http://wiki.apache.org/ page. - To unsubscr

Re: [struts1] STATUS - Version 1.3.5

2006-07-11 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/11/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Zipped, the 1.3.5 snapshot is 40.8mb. Zipped, the individual components come to docs.zip - 11.5mb lib.zip - 2.8mb src.zip - 5.8mb webapps - 20.5mb Do we want to offer these archives separately, in addition to the combined snapshot? In some pl

Re: API Doc Title

2006-07-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 7/5/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/5/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your thoughts? I think we are dangerously closed to discussion what "is" is :) So, lets have that discussion and get it over with. Other people are going to refer to Struts the same way w

Re: API Doc Title

2006-07-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
y. On 7/5/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/5/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having a system is usually a good thing. Perhaps it would help to define these terms, which I think many people use naturally. Struts 2 - The product represented by the rep

Re: API Doc Title

2006-07-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
hink it did. "Struts Core 1.3.5-SNAPSHOT API" is much better, in my opinion. Don Michael Jouravlev wrote: > I hate to bring this question back, but do we have a final decision on > how 1.x and 2.x codebases are treated name-wise and what is the > official way to refer to a pro

Re: API Doc Title

2006-07-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
I hate to bring this question back, but do we have a final decision on how 1.x and 2.x codebases are treated name-wise and what is the official way to refer to a product/version? Because seems that Don, for example, have a different idea on naming: "I think it is as simple as Struts 1.3, Struts

/TALK, NEWS/ Why does Apache home page not reflect recent changes in Struts project?

2006-07-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Who and how submits news to be published Apache main page? Apache home page does not contain news about Struts name changes, and about Shale becoming a TLP. On a similar note, it does not announce Tapestry becoming a TLP, I found this news on TSS instead of getting it from Apache.org. The news ma

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-29 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/28/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev wrote: > Do you mean by building DispatchCommand or DialogCommand? And then > slapping this command onto the chain... but I can replace Action as > well. Oh I see, Action is not an interface, but Command is

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/28/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev wrote: > From webapp > point of view, Command is as bad as Action. Meaning that HttpServlet > has doGet() and doPost() and therefore forces people to think what > kind of request they are processing

Re: Thoughts on 1.3.x

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Paul, not related to your issues (and I do not have answer/opinion on them), but more related to the message header: see more 1.3 issues/features/questions here: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/SAF1RoughSpots I don't know what is the best place to discuss all this stuff, here or in Wiki. I am ok wi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
leases, and perhaps some day, Struts 3.x releases. Don Michael Jouravlev wrote: > You mean, Struts 2.0 version 2.0, then Struts 2.0 version 2.1, Struts > 2.0 version 2.2, ..., Struts 2.0 version 3.0, ..., Struts 2.0 version > 4.0 > > :-) > > 2.0 is a version number, while we a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
You mean, Struts 2.0 version 2.0, then Struts 2.0 version 2.1, Struts 2.0 version 2.2, ..., Struts 2.0 version 3.0, ..., Struts 2.0 version 4.0 :-) 2.0 is a version number, while we are choosing project names (Are we?) Do we treat Struts2 as the next version, or do we treat Struts and Struts2 as

Re: [PROPOSAL] Rename Struts Action as Struts

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Mua-ha-ha :-)) +1 on renaming back. Also, hoping not to hijaack this thread I would suggest coming up with codenames for 1.x and 2.x codebases. This had been suggested and discussed long ago but was rejected. Why codenames make sense: * Job search. SAF1 and SAF2... oh... I mean, Struts 1.x and

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/28/06, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I haven't read Michaels latest write up, so I don't know if its substantially different, but last time I looked the only reason for integrating the "dispatch" style into Action was (IMO) to encourage its use. If thats still true then my opini

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-28 Thread Michael Jouravlev
ize what dispatching is used. The timing of Michael's suggestions is opportune for me. My "page" attribute/property idea is to facilitate something comparable. These things would be a worthy 1.4.0 release. Paul Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As most of you p

Re: [Friday] GWT/Struts - does it make sense?

2006-06-27 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/25/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/23/06, Ian Roughley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been thinking about this a lot lately, and I would say that GWT > is more likely to replace web frameworks than work with them. I wouldn't phrase it quite like that. It's more lik

Re: 1.x - DTD Attribute Proposal

2006-06-27 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/27/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/23/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find two uses of action mappings in my applications. One loads data for view, another writes data and then goes to a view. These views, I suppose, would logically

Re: 1.x - DTD Attribute Proposal

2006-06-27 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/23/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I find two uses of action mappings in my applications. One loads data for view, another writes data and then goes to a view. These views, I suppose, would logically be "pages" if Struts were a page-based controller. But I do find this kind of

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Jouravlev
d to Struts Action 1 core. Don Michael Jouravlev wrote: > Don, thanks for replying. See inline. > > On 6/25/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Interesting...I can see you have put a lot of time and thought into >> this. My first pass seems to find this a cro

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Please disregard reference [1] as obsolete. On 6/25/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [1] http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2005/08/04/jspcomponents.html [2] http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2006/05/04/almost-portlets.html [3] http://www.jspcontrols.net/ [4

Re: Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-25 Thread Michael Jouravlev
ole new framework if a current one can be enhanced with very little changes (to a user at least) and can still be used to build viable applications. Michael Jouravlev wrote: > As most of you probably know, I have been quite obsessed with page > components developed with JSP or with JSP/Struts [

Proposal for Struts 1.x: support for portlet-like components

2006-06-25 Thread Michael Jouravlev
As most of you probably know, I have been quite obsessed with page components developed with JSP or with JSP/Struts [1],[2]. My first attempt used Struts/JSP, the second one is pure JSP-based [3]. It proved to be quite robust, simple and it works. So now in my newly acquired powers of Struts commi

[Friday] GWT/Struts - does it make sense?

2006-06-23 Thread Michael Jouravlev
From another thread: On 6/23/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JSF is a major shift in the way we've been doing things. It will take a while for everyone to understand JSF enough before they are ready for Shale. I think that it should not be too complex to combine GWT front end wi

Re: Status of 1.3.5, 1.x, and loose ends

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/22/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just created a first draft of what I envision as part of updated 1.3 documentation that describes new features for 1.3 ;-) http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsComponents The WAR file is attached, see the bottom of the page. T

Re: Status of 1.3.5, 1.x, and loose ends

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/22/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is the status of 1.3.5? It sounds like it's almost baked. By the way, I am volunteering to continue adding features to 1.x. Michael says he is also. I read today Niall is too. Who else on the team still wishes to add features for this c

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/22/06, Hubert Rabago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/22/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is going to be short, both because I'm on a deadline and because > I think the important points have already been covered. > > I'm not in favor of distributing Shale as a library behind

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-21 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/21/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paul Benedict wrote: > I don't see the point in bundling Shale into a "Struts 2.0" distribution. No > offense to anyone who develops Shale, but when we have packages called > "action2", it makes it pretty clear Shale is not Struts 2.0 -- only the a

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/20/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As Shale and Action zero in on their first GA release, I don't think it is too late to ask the question, "Does Struts really need two frameworks?" We have been putting out the message, "two frameworks, one community", for almost a year now, but I

Re: Does Struts really need two frameworks? (long)

2006-06-20 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 6/20/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As Shale and Action zero in on their first GA release, I don't think it is too late to ask the question, "Does Struts really need two frameworks?" I bet DJ and JR are laughing their asses off.

Support and promote international standards in documentation and tools

2006-06-14 Thread Michael Jouravlev
By using ISO date format "-mm-dd HH:mm:ss" Struts/Apache can promote international standards including unambiguous 24-hour format for time. For example, the home page of Struts project [1] has the following subheader: "Last Published: 06/11/2006". Should be "Last Published: 2006-06-11". Anno

Re: [SAF2] Default workflow

2006-06-07 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Despite that your message is related to SAF2, I would like to comment it, explaining how similar mechanism works in SAF1. On 6/5/06, David Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all, On this page: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsActionRelease200 There is, under the new features heading a r

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/11/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since we now require Servlet 2.3, there's little reason to configure tlds in web.xml, and there's no reason to keep a copy of validator-rules.xml in WEB-INF when it can be loaded from struts-core.jar. We can include them in 'lib' in the next dis

Re: Struts Action 1.3.4 Release Plan

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/9/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the documentation, we've been referring to "Struts Action Framework 2" to correlate with the common acronym SAF2. I would agreed that there's no obvious reason to retrofit the numeral to SAF. Based on this logic, term "Java" should correspond

Re: Struts Action 1.3.4 Release Plan

2006-05-09 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/9/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wendy Smoak wrote: > The jar manifests now have 'Apache Struts Action 1 Framework' as the > Specification-Title. (Change struts/action/pom.xml if you prefer > something else.) The more I think about it, the more I don't like this title. Me too.

Re: Struts Action 1.3.4 Release Plan

2006-05-08 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/8/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please continue reviewing the 1.3.3 test build and reporting issues: * http://cvs.apache.org/dist/struts/action/v1.3.3/ Are there any comments on the included website docs? Did you mean docs included with the distro, or docs on live website? J

StrutsAction1Planning wiki page

2006-05-06 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Don, have you considered combining these two pages: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsAction1Planning http://wiki.apache.org/struts/SAF1RoughSpots or your plan is to have SAF1RoughSpots as discussion board, and StrutsAction1Planning to reflect decisions agreed upon (I mean, agreed upon that t

Re: [action][Proposal] Architecture plan for Struts Action 2.0

2006-05-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/5/06, Phil Zoio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Jouravlev wrote: > On 5/5/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If the existing branches can continue to develop, then the community >> is not >> hurt by breaking compatibility,

Re: [action][Proposal] Architecture plan for Struts Action 2.0

2006-05-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/5/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the existing branches can continue to develop, then the community is not hurt by breaking compatibility, they are actually HELPED because the merger yields a much greater value in the end, and people will probably want to migrate despit

Re: [action][Proposal] Architecture plan for Struts Action 2.0

2006-05-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/5/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, let's just make this an official proposal and focus all of this discussion: I propose that the architecture plan for Struts Action 2.0 includes the following: 1. A re-design of the API to simplify the framework the users see 2. Backwards-

Re: What's the goal of SAF 2.0? (was Public API first draft )

2006-05-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/5/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although you don't mention it here, I think it's always been kind of implied... still, I'd like to see it explicitly stated, and that is, what about existing Struts users? Will they have a migration path (and what is it?), or not? The same

Re: [action2] Public API first draft

2006-05-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/5/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/5/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Therefore, I personally consider JSR-168 a big mistake, and I would > prefer it to die peacefully. Consider the way the world was before JSR-168 happened ..

Re: [action2] Public API first draft

2006-05-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/5/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If support for a portlet environment is a goal for SAF2, remember that there is more to it than just papering over the differences between the portlet and servlet APIs. You also have to deal at the functional level with the differences in th

Re: SAF 1.3.x and legacy RequestProcessor

2006-05-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
From: Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 5, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: Re: SAF 1.3.x and legacy RequestProcessor On 5/5/06, Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Its probably academic, but since CRP extends RP then it seems > >incorrect to deprecate the whole class with a view to remov

Re: [action2] Public API first draft

2006-05-04 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/4/06, Bob Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Passing in keys vs. actual messages - I think always passing in keys is one thing Struts got right. I presume you meant Struts Action Framework 1 ;-) Even if you only support one language, abstracting messages out of your code is still a good pr

Re: Public API first draft

2006-05-04 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/4/06, Eric Molitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I definitely agree that they should be isolated, but glancing through the api I saw RequestAware but not ResponseAware. (I`m reading the copy Don posted and not the version under source control.) ValidationAware, ErrrorAware, RequestAware, Resp

SAF 1.3.x and legacy RequestProcessor

2006-05-04 Thread Michael Jouravlev
Looking at 1.3 internals (at last) I've found that it contains both ComposableRequestProcessor (CRP) and legacy RequestProcessor (RP). Is this duality really needed? For a regular Struts user who does not extend RP, the new CRP should work just like the old one. The only difference is the config

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Strike that. JIRA search works fine. Before or after I changed the summary text on your issue? :) After. Aha! I noticed that something was different ;-) Then maybe the

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My issue is titled: "struts-cookbook-1.3.2: invalid path to source Java files in samples". Tried to search for "cookbook" in summary and description, nothing found. Tried to search for "struts-cookbook-1.

Re: [VOTE] Release the struts-parent pom v2

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/3/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We need to release version 2 of the struts-parent pom: > > * http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/maven/trunk/pom/pom.xml +1. I didn't really give the role thing any thought before, but

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the > > Java source

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/3/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. The struts-cookbook-1.3.2 application allows to take a look at the > Java source code of examples. The links refer to > source.jsp?src=/WEB-INF/src/java/examples/s

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.2 Quality

2006-05-03 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 5/3/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am I supposed to use JIRA for SAF1 as well? Could not find the link to JIRA on wiki page. Oops, should have clicked the link for outstanding bugs :-) Still, not very clear how to get t

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