RE: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-03 Thread Anders Steinlein
. september 2004 21:33 > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how > CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) > > You can also look at the whiteboard initially setup by Ted in > contrib/struts-jericho/README.txt >

RE: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-03 Thread Anders Steinlein
. september 2004 21:33 > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how > CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) > > You can also look at the whiteboard initially setup by Ted in > contrib/struts-jericho/README.txt >

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 06:29:59 -0700 (PDT), David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Either it could be developed with compatibility to existing JDK versions > > and > > keep everyone happy. or go with JDK 1.5 and my preferernce would be to > > go to > > JDK 1.5 and use all those favorite-new-fe

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-03 Thread David Graham
> Either it could be developed with compatibility to existing JDK versions > and > keep everyone happy. or go with JDK 1.5 and my preferernce would be to > go to > JDK 1.5 and use all those favorite-new-features. In the past we have required the Java version that the Servlet spec required. Why w

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Niall Pemberton
- Original Message - From: "Craig McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 6:02 AM > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 01:10:43 +0100, Niall Pemberton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with what Vic said in this thread on the Servlet Spec issue - if we > > can take the S

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 01:10:43 +0100, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with what Vic said in this thread on the Servlet Spec issue - if we > can take the Servlet version out of the equation so that any version can be > plugged in to the core controller than that would be really goo

Re: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 19:06:44 -0400, Frank Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ironic as it seems to myself to be saying it, I don't think I like the idea > of Struts moving to newer spec/JDK versions just yet. > > Here at work, most of our development is now Struts-based, and much of it is > mov

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Niall Pemberton
Message - From: "Frank Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) > Ironic as it seems to myself

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Vic
t;Anders Steinlein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler hand

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Frank Zammetti
eply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Struts Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:43:37

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:14:15 -0700, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 06:09:02 -0400, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was once proposed that we "leap frog" Serlvet 2.3 and go straight to 2.4 for > > Struts 2.x. But, I continually see references to littl

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Hubert Rabago
> > Maybe the "whiteboard" area is good fot this... > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWhiteboard > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Niall Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Struts Developers List" <[E

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Vic
ard - Original Message - From: "Niall Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread James Mitchell
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWhiteboard > > - Original Message - > From: "Niall Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:31 PM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move mini

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Michael Rasmussen
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:31 PM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how > CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) > > > Struts has a r

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread James Mitchell
uot;Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) > Maybe the "whiteboard" area is good fot this... >

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Niall Pemberton
, then lots > of people could easily contribute > > Niall > > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:12 PM > Su

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Niall Pemberton
truts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) Doesn't a struts 2.x codebase need a roadmap first? Should there be some de

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Doesn't a struts 2.x codebase need a roadmap first? Should there be some defined goals? Should it implement the same apis as struts 1.x so as to ease transition? Or should it be a whole new framework? Somehow I think the latter would be ill received. On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 07:02:45 -0400, Ted Hust

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Ted Husted
On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 11:43:37 +0200, Anders Steinlein wrote: > Just want to throw in my voice here, as this is exactly what I've > been thinking. I'm very pleased with Struts and use it on a daily > basis and I would love to contribute, but I don't really have the > itches or time to fully read up o

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Anders Steinlein
> > It's more than a thought ... I was about three keystrokes from > > including this in my proposal to be forward looking on > servlet 2.4 and > > JSP 2.0 :-). > > > > I'd love to see Servlet2.4 and JSP2.0 be the minimum. > > It was mentioned before that several of the 'itches' that the >

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-02 Thread Anders Steinlein
> > It's more than a thought ... I was about three keystrokes from > > including this in my proposal to be forward looking on > servlet 2.4 and > > JSP 2.0 :-). > > > > I'd love to see Servlet2.4 and JSP2.0 be the minimum. > > It was mentioned before that several of the 'itches' that the >

RE: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-01 Thread David H. DeWolf
> > It's more than a thought ... I was about three keystrokes from > including this in my proposal to be forward looking on servlet 2.4 and > JSP 2.0 :-). > I'd love to see Servlet2.4 and JSP2.0 be the minimum. It was mentioned before that several of the 'itches' that the committers have rev

Re: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 09:56:41 -0500, David Durham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Mitchell wrote: > > > That would be a bad mistake. How many products do you know that have a 1.5 > > minimum requirement? > > If we're talking about Struts 2.0, it's not actually a product yet, so > it's purely sp

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-01 Thread David Durham
James Mitchell wrote: That would be a bad mistake. How many products do you know that have a 1.5 minimum requirement? If we're talking about Struts 2.0, it's not actually a product yet, so it's purely speculation. I'm not saying move the 1.x branch to 1.5. I'm not even saying that you *should*

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
uot;Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) > While you're at it, why not drop JDK 1.3? Consider movi

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-01 Thread David Durham
While you're at it, why not drop JDK 1.3? Consider moving to 1.5? Just 2 cents. - Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:54:12 +, Robert Leland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > +1 , 2.3 > +1, 2.4 - Since we seem to take 18mo between releases, (that's > just the way it is) we may as well go for 2.4. If anyone has an itch for 2.4, I'd suggest setting up a whiteboard in Contrib and having

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:26:01 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote: > Given when (in the evolution of Java best practices) Struts was > developed, I've been delighted at how long it has remained viable. Absolutely. It well done well in the first instance, and has worked well ever since. I'm still being t

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:31:27 -0400, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:14:15 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote: > >ïI also suspect, given our track record :-), that re-engineering > >ïStruts from scratch based on the latest platform APIs wouldn't take > >ïmore time than a gr

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread Ted Husted
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:14:15 -0700, Craig McClanahan wrote: > I also suspect, given our track record :-), that re-engineering > Struts from scratch based on the latest platform APIs wouldn't take > more time than a gradual refactoring from the current code. I sometimes wonder if not getting a clea

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread Martin Cooper
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:03:59 -0400, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:22:56 -0500, Joe Germuska wrote: > >ïPerhaps we should have a similar justification for 2.3, but I guess > >ïI feel like it's old enough now that "just because" is an OK reason. > > Why 2.3? > > (1)

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread Ted Husted
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:22:56 -0500, Joe Germuska wrote: > Perhaps we should have a similar justification for 2.3, but I guess > I feel like it's old enough now that "just because" is an OK reason. Why 2.3? (1) It is preferred platform of active Struts developers. (2) It is needed for certain en

Re: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > That justification doesn't cut it, for me at least. Based on our past > behaviour, it's very likely that there will be something fairly stable > that people can pick up as a nightly build long, long before the final > release. That will likely still be lo

Re: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread Martin Cooper
> > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 10:09 AM > > To: 'Struts Developers List', 'Struts Developers List' > > Subject: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re:

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread Joe Germuska
+1 to move base Servlet API to 2.3 -0 to moving to 2.4 At this point, I think we should be conservative and wait to make 2.4 the minimum until we can explain why we need it. If that happens during the course of development, then fine, but if many users are still using Servlet 2.3, then let's no

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread Robert Leland
elopers List', 'Struts Developers List' > Subject: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how > CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) > > It was once proposed that we "leap frog" Serlvet 2.3 and go straight to 2.4 for > Struts 2.x. B

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread Nicolas De Loof
ible on (almost) all current application server ? > I like your idea Craig. +1 for going to 2.4. > > -James > > -Original Message- > From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:14 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: [

RE: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread James Holmes
I like your idea Craig. +1 for going to 2.4. -James -Original Message- From: Craig McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 12:14 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles

RE: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread James Holmes
+1 -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:09 AM To: Struts Developers List; Struts Developers List Subject: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) It was once

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-31 Thread David Graham
+1 for 2.3. IMO, we should keep up with what most people are using and not linger in legacy specs. David --- Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was once proposed that we "leap frog" Serlvet 2.3 and go straight to > 2.4 for Struts 2.x. But, I continually see references to little things >

RE: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-08-30 Thread Steve Raeburn
ve minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?) It was once proposed that we "leap frog" Serlvet 2.3 and go straight to 2.4 for Struts 2.x. But, I continually see references to little things people could do better if our minimum were Se