Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard interface 2nd release

2001-08-22 Thread Timothy Pugh
In message , Timothy Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >Allen Rapini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>Trevor >>Thanks again, for the squidGuard package. I honestly didn't have any >>problems I knew of with ver. 1, but I figured I could "guinea pi

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard interface 2nd release

2001-08-22 Thread Timothy Pugh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Allen Rapini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Trevor >Thanks again, for the squidGuard package. I honestly didn't have any >problems I knew of with ver. 1, but I figured I could "guinea pig" my home >system for you. Works great, as advertised, without a reboot... > >All

[e-smith-devinfo] SCSI Driver

2001-08-22 Thread Jeff
I'm trying to add a 8gb DAT drive to my ES box, can anyone help me. when i do insmod wd7000 i get this: [root@e-smith /root]# modprobe wd7000 /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/scsi/wd7000.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including inv

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: Mail failure

2001-08-22 Thread jason
Happy with that I thought I was going insane... couldn't find a fault anywhere Thankyou, Jason Green, Lotus Notes Admin/Developer. Canberra Australia.

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] GPL issues

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Trevor Ouellette wrote: > code. Mailing or shipping costs are also ok. > > Just my 2 cents... :-) Which may well be ample to cover your cost, assuming that you are shipping via email. > Even if that is the correct interpretation, this does not mean that just > because som

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard interface 2nd release

2001-08-22 Thread Allen Rapini
Trevor Thanks again, for the squidGuard package. I honestly didn't have any problems I knew of with ver. 1, but I figured I could "guinea pig" my home system for you. Works great, as advertised, without a reboot... Allen -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Advise...

2001-08-22 Thread Gordon Rowell
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 02:23:39PM -0500, Alexander Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there... > > Can e-smith be used as a serious, expect high trafic, web server? running > on a dual processor machine with 1 gig of ram??? Yes. e-smith fully supports SMP machines (assuming your motherboa

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Advise...

2001-08-22 Thread Gordon Rowell
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 02:36:44AM +0200, Jelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > e-smith is just a customid redhat so it probably could be, but i wouldn't > recommendend it as it is specificly targetted to small and medium sized > enterprises.. You would probably be better off with standard redhat,

[e-smith-devinfo] SMESV5 pricing [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5]questions

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
Ross Laver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > But folks, all you have to do is wander over to e-smith.com. That's > where we address the business issues, including this one. Just to assist everyone, I found the actual SMESV5 w. ServiceLink price list here: http://e-smith.com/pdfs/products_table_8.23

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Advise...

2001-08-22 Thread Jelmer
e-smith is just a customid redhat so it probably could be, but i wouldn't recommendend it as it is specificly targetted to small and medium sized enterprises.. You would probably be better off with standard redhat,suse slackware whatever... - Original Message - From: "Alexander Wallace

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Backup to desktop ?

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Is it possible to alter the 'backup to desktop' function to backup to a > directory on the ES drive, or even to mount a CDRW and burn it to there ? > anyone made any progress in this area ? any help appreciated. > > --jeff To directly answer your question, yes

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Ross Laver
> In my mind, the only gray area not yet addressed is if there will be some > form of paid support for the base system, or if the only way to get support > from Mitel is to buy ServiceLink? Charlie is right -- these are business issues, not development issues, and hence don't belong on this list.

[e-smith-devinfo] Backup to desktop ?

2001-08-22 Thread Jeff
Is it possible to alter the 'backup to desktop' function to backup to a directory on the ES drive, or even to mount a CDRW and burn it to there ? anyone made any progress in this area ? any help appreciated. --jeff smime.p7s

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Graeme Robinson
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) wrote: > On the other hand, it does remove home and very small business users as > potential clients. remove? I don't think so. Almost none of my existing or potential clients can afford the NOC services version 5 offers, but that doesn't make the o

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
Yes, I used to work for a company with offices in Istanbul. My first trip over in Nov 95 had the exchange rate at about 55.000 TL, and my last trip in Jun 98 it was at 260.000 TL. I had to change $500(US) into Lira on that trip -- quite a sizable stack of paper! And yes, $200(US) per month would

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
Thanks Kirrily for answering my questions today most thoroughly and with a degree of professionalism that was refreshing ;-> -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Supp

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Timothy Pugh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ross Laver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >"Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)" wrote: >> > > >> On the other hand, it does remove home and very small business users as >> potential clients. > >It may preclude home users as potential clients, but it doesn't *remove* >them, inasm

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Trevor Ouellette
What IPSEC VPN implementation are you guys using? Is it a freeswan implementation or is it licensed/purchased technology? If you don't want to say, I understand. I was just wondering whether the FreeS/WAN is a cheaper alternative, if we could somehow work it into the manager... might take some

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
> -Original Message- > From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:23 PM > Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions > Hi Scott, I apprecaite your comments. I'm guessing you have > first hand > knowledge of SMESV5. As I am not a part

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] GPL issues

2001-08-22 Thread Trevor Ouellette
That's how I see it as well. You don't have to have an FTP site dedicated to the source code, just as long as you make the source available when someone asks you for it. It is their responsibility to contact you for the source. However, there is a responsibility on the author's part to make sur

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) wrote: > > > 1) Is the client portion of ServiceLink installed with SME5 base? > > > > No, it's installed separately after you pay for it. > > So, no worries there if you just want to run SME5 w/o ServiceLink. The > logical follow-up question is: Wha

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Kirrily Robert wrote: > > 4) What about the current PPTP VPN connectivity, is this tied to the > > IPSEC VPN or separate and not effected in any way? > > Not affected. Darrell, *no* existing functionality is affected. No ServiceLink software will be available for free downl

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
> -Original Message- > From: Kirrily Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions > > 1) Is the client portion of ServiceLink installed with SME5 base? > > No, it's installed separately after you pa

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Kirrily Robert
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 08:22:58PM -, Darrell May wrote: > > I have not heard that the ServiceLink IPSEC VPN or AntiVirus features may > be easily not used and third party applications installed in its place. You can always install 3rd party applications instead. For instance, the existing

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] GPL issues (was: e-smith.com (was: SME Server V5 with ServiceLin k announced))

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
> -Original Message- > From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] GPL issues (was: e-smith.com (was: SME > Server V5 with ServiceLin k announced)) > Not so. Consult a nearby copy of COPYING. There you will fi

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2

2001-08-22 Thread Trevor Ouellette
Hi Jeff, To be honest with you, if you just want to uninstall squidguard 1 so that you can use squidguard 2, you don't have to... just run the script and it will update the system to ver 2. If you want to get rid of it perm... that's on my agenda... but simply removing the ibay, uninstalling the

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Togan Muftuoglu
* Smith, Jeffery S (Scott); <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 22 Aug, 2001 wrote: > I'm guessing no. I can't speak to the relative costs in other currencies, > but in US dollars, $200/mo (or $175 on a 12 month basis -- where did you see > that, btw?) is not much money for all be the very smallest of business

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
Hi Scott, I apprecaite your comments. I'm guessing you have first hand knowledge of SMESV5. As I am not a partner anymore I have not had a look at SMESV5 so I have questions you may consider redundant. My apologies. I have tried to ask questions that I was hoping e-smith would respond to s

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Kirrily Robert
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 03:41:57PM -0400, Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) wrote: > > Still, there are questions: > > 1) Is the client portion of ServiceLink installed with SME5 base? No, it's installed separately after you pay for it. > 2) Is the client portion of ServiceLink GPL or commercial? The

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
> -Original Message- > From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:58 PM > Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions > In Canadian dollars the cost is increasing from $75.00/mth to > $270.00/mth > or $920.00/yr to $3,270.00/yr. (Even high

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] GPL issues (was: e-smith.com (was: SME ServerV5 with ServiceLin k announced))

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Smith, Jeffery S (Scott) wrote: > Third, you are not required to deliver source code with the program, nor to > make source code publically available as for example via anonymous ftp. You > must make source code available for three years TO THOSE TO WHOM YOU > DISTRIBUTE IT,

[e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard interface 2nd release

2001-08-22 Thread Trevor Ouellette
[This may be a double post -- I haven't received my first post yet] I'm trying to fix all the problems that were plaguing the SquidGuard interface. If anyone cares, here's how to download/install it. I've had a lot of inexperienced people asking about content filtering, so I want to make this e

[e-smith-devinfo] Advise...

2001-08-22 Thread Alexander Wallace
Hi there... Can e-smith be used as a serious, expect high trafic, web server? running on a dual processor machine with 1 gig of ram??? Can it also be used as a serious database server (probably db2) running on a quad xeon machine with 4 gb or fam, and 640 GB fibre channel disk array??? Thanks f

[e-smith-devinfo] GPL issues (was: e-smith.com (was: SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced))

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
> -Original Message- > From: Justin Funke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:35 PM > Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] e-smith.com (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] > SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced) > - Now back to this blade thing. Please excuse my lack of

[e-smith-devinfo] SquidGuard 2

2001-08-22 Thread Trevor Ouellette
I'm trying to fix all the problems that were plauging the squidguard interface. If anyone cares, here's how to download/install it. I've had a lot of inexperienced people asking about content filtering, so I want to make this easy for them. I know it's unconventional (PHP & scripts), please bea

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
Dan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >rpm -qi should give indicate the relevant license. Actually I was thinking more of if you wish to update a single file/code fragment, how do you determine which rpm that file belongs to in an easy fashion. I just did a man rpm and found you can execu

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Adam Sleight
We pay $50/client for an ipsec vpn client and a few thousand for a firewall. If e-smith creates a ipsec vpn solution you better believe they have a right to charge for it. E-smith is about simplfying many of the processess. Have you ever created an ipsec-tunnel manually? I have and it wasn't f

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
Charlie Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Enough questions for now I think. > > Too many in fact :-) I realize it has been a trying day of devinfo mails but I do hope I may receive an answer to the other questions I raised as well. -- Darrell May DMC NETSOURCED.COM http://netsourced.com

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] New SME Server V5

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Hollandare
> You obviously haven't read my earlier post, where I said that SME Server > V5 will not be using the 2.4 kernel, for reasons explained in the FAQ. Charlie i'm sorry i havent, and thats becouse of sporadic mail-problems here today, with loosing more than 90% of all incoming mail. Thats what yo

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] e-smith.com (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced)

2001-08-22 Thread Kirrily Robert
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:35:25PM -0500, Justin Funke wrote: > Say I write a package that integrates an IDS into the VME5. If it is at all > based on any GPL code I am required to license it as GPL and not sell it as > a blade.(I think) Nope. You license it under the GPL, but may *also* sell it

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Darrell May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Charlie noted the fact that his logfile rpm was released with management > blessing. If Charlie has to seek management blessing does that not > suggest that we must seek management blessing ourselves or Mitel will No, it suggests only that Charli

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
> -Original Message- > From: Ross Laver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink > announced > > > "Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)" wrote: > > > > > > On the other hand, it does remove home and ver

[e-smith-devinfo] Contributions (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions)

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Darrell May wrote: > I'm very concerned about this new proprietary part of SMESV5. As Kim has > stated Mitel is going to be protecting their IP property. This implies > one can not continue to contribute as freely as we have done before. Not true. For any software derive

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread admin
Being a developer myself and managing a few open source projects, http://myphpnuke.com is just one of them, it always amazes me how quickly people turn. The point is, e-smith has been here to make money from day one. If you don't want to help them make money, have a problem with it, or just are

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Darrell May wrote: > Charlie noted the fact that his logfile rpm was released with management > blessing. If Charlie has to seek management blessing does that not > suggest that we must seek management blessing ourselves or Mitel will > come protecting their IP property? D

[e-smith-devinfo] GPL explanation (was RE: [e-smith-devinfo] e-smith.com)

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Justin Funke wrote: > - Now back to this blade thing. Please excuse my lack of understanding on > the details of GPL I've never had to read this deep into it before. > > Say I write a package that integrates an IDS into the VME5. If it is at all > based on any GPL code I am

[e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 questions

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
As I understand it, SMESV5 :) will be part GPL and part proprietary, and will utilize the ServiceLink NOC. The suggested list price is $175 per month with a 12-month subscription, or $595 for three months. Ok, here are my questions: In Canadian dollars the cost is increasing from $75.00/mth

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] New SME Server V5

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Peter Hollandare wrote: > I really hope it uses the new kernel 2.4.x - You obviously haven't read my earlier post, where I said that SME Server V5 will not be using the 2.4 kernel, for reasons explained in the FAQ. > else im not even bothering to download/install. Your lo

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Ross Laver
"Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)" wrote: > > On the other hand, it does remove home and very small business users as > potential clients. It may preclude home users as potential clients, but it doesn't *remove* them, inasmuch as we don't currently have any home user customers and we've never gone aft

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] why kernel 2.4.x (was: New SME Server V5)

2001-08-22 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting "Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You know, I really don't get this. First, what does e-smith (aka VME5) > need that is only available in kernel 2.4.x? Well, 2.4.x adds allegedly much-improved packet filtering, which is a large part of the e-smith functionality. As

[e-smith-devinfo] RE: e-smith.com (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced)

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
> -Original Message- > From: Ross Laver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:17 PM > Subject: e-smith.com (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with > ServiceLink announced) > > (Oh, there is the > > much more attractive, if less informative, home page! Was

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] e-smith.com (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced)

2001-08-22 Thread Justin Funke
> Lovingly hand-crafted. Take a bow, Dan McGarry :-) Agreed, very nice Dan. - Now back to this blade thing. Please excuse my lack of understanding on the details of GPL I've never had to read this deep into it before. Say I write a package that integrates an IDS into the VME5. If it is at all

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] why kernel 2.4.x (was: New SME Server V5)

2001-08-22 Thread Ross Laver
"Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)" wrote: > > A few people have said things to the effect of: > > If VME5 doesn't use kernel 2.4.x then I'm not > > going to bother with it. > > You know, I really don't get this. First, what does e-smith (aka VME5) need > that is only available in kernel 2.4.x? Second, i

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:12 PM > Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink > announced > That's not to say that I'm entirely happy with the v5 > setup--I'd like to > have the option of

[e-smith-devinfo] why kernel 2.4.x (was: New SME Server V5)

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
A few people have said things to the effect of: > If VME5 doesn't use kernel 2.4.x then I'm not > going to bother with it. You know, I really don't get this. First, what does e-smith (aka VME5) need that is only available in kernel 2.4.x? Second, is this a business need (ie, solves a real-world p

[e-smith-devinfo] e-smith.com (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced)

2001-08-22 Thread Ross Laver
"Smith, Jeffery S (Scott)" wrote: > > (Oh, there is the > much more attractive, if less informative, home page! Was that hand coded, > or done with a nuke-ish package?) Lovingly hand-crafted. Take a bow, Dan McGarry :-) Ross -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Ken Yuinipo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Blades" sound a lot like un-GPL contribs. Watch out developers, you > might get dragged into court by e-smith/Mitel. Jason, you go ahead and try > undercut e-smith and you will see what might happen. Charlie, Kim, and Kirrily have already respon

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Compatibility for the new SME Server V5

2001-08-22 Thread Trevor Ouellette
Is V5 based on 4.1.2 with the new services bundled and will 4.1.x contribs be compatible with V5? Thanks, Trev. -Original Message- From: Peter Hollandare [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:55 AM To: e-smith devinfo Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] New SME Server V5

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
As an employee of a company with hundreds of millions in revenue that is building upon e-smith as a core component of its future plans, and as the person who is the principle technical liason e-smith/Mitel, and as a person who has a lot riding on VME Server V5 both at my day job and what is soon t

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] IMP

2001-08-22 Thread Dan Brown
Quoting Brossin Pierrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I was wondering if it's possible to make some *rules* in IMP. > For example when mails where the subject is "E-Smith DevInfo" go directly > in a folder I created (in IMP). This is not possible in IMP 2.2.x. It is possible in the current devel

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] IMP

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
Brossin Pierrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hey, > > I was wondering if it's possible to make some *rules* in IMP. > For example when mails where the subject is "E-Smith DevInfo" go directly in > a > folder I created (in IMP). > This is what procmail is for. See this HowTo which will work

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] IMP

2001-08-22 Thread Kirrily Robert
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 06:45:50PM +0200, Brossin Pierrick wrote: > > I was wondering if it's possible to make some *rules* in IMP. > For example when mails where the subject is "E-Smith DevInfo" go directly in > a > folder I created (in IMP). I think you want to use procmail. There's a HOWTO li

[e-smith-devinfo] New SME Server V5

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Hollandare
I really hope it uses the new kernel 2.4.x - else im not even bothering to download/install. Cheers Peter -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscrib

[e-smith-devinfo] IMP

2001-08-22 Thread Brossin Pierrick
Hey, I was wondering if it's possible to make some *rules* in IMP. For example when mails where the subject is "E-Smith DevInfo" go directly in a folder I created (in IMP). I hope you'll understand my crappy english :) Thanx - Un PC sans Windows c'est comme un gâteau au chocolat sans mouta

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Ross Laver
I think "Ken's" motives have been clear from the moment he popped up on this list. And they clearly have nothing to do with helping the open source community. Ross Ken Yuinipo wrote: > > Ok Charlie, then why wasn't the IPSEC VPN Service released GPL? I don't > mean SWAN... there was NO sup

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Kirrily Robert
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 04:13:14PM +, Ken Yuinipo wrote: > The reality is businesses pay developers money. Everyone works for free on > ES, Huh? e-smith, prior to its acquisition by Mitel, employed a team of developers... who are *still* employed by Mitel. Nothing's changed. > Mitel is

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Kim Morrison
> I believe that you take GPL very seriously, but frankly you are not in > charge. No, but I am. We don't need to release everything we do by ourselves to the GPL in order to support open source. We have created a *service* around providing IPSEC VPN with pattern updates for which we charge. P

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Ken Yuinipo
Ok Charlie, then why wasn't the IPSEC VPN Service released GPL? I don't mean SWAN... there was NO support from Esmith re: the IPSEC/SWAN stuff on the devinfo list. The truth is managagement gave you the green light on your log program because log programs don't threaten the bottom line. Am

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Kim Morrison
Ken, I am often surprised at your posts. > "Blades" sound a lot like un-GPL contribs. Watch out developers, you might > get dragged into court by e-smith/Mitel. You know, the original e-smith server was created in its entirety by Joe Morrison - by himself and on his own time - and unlike Coba

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Trevor Ouellette wrote: > I hope that you are wrong about this Ken... can anybody confirm? > > >Mitel is stuck with most of the ES linux package as GPL. But everything > >else from now on is going to become propietary (you know with patents, > >trademarks, lawyers, etc).

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Trevor Ouellette
I hope that you are wrong about this Ken... can anybody confirm? >Mitel is stuck with most of the ES linux package as GPL. But everything >else from now on is going to become propietary (you know with patents, >trademarks, lawyers, etc). -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mai

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Ken Yuinipo
The reality is businesses pay developers money. Everyone works for free on ES, ES sold out to an 800lb gorilla (Mitel) and now you are feeding us this GPL/opensource garbage, Blake? Get real. Mitel's investors are not going to be happy if they hear the word linux or opensource mentioned in t

[e-smith-devinfo] SME Server

2001-08-22 Thread Peter Hollandare
Based on Kernel 2.4 now i hope? If not im not going to change. PS! SME Server, the name tastes really bad in my mouth, sounds Microsoftisch - keeping the name E-Smith would be preferable. Cheers Peter -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss se

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Ken Yuinipo
"Blades" sound a lot like un-GPL contribs. Watch out developers, you might get dragged into court by e-smith/Mitel. Jason, you go ahead and try undercut e-smith and you will see what might happen. By The Way: "Blades" sound a lot like Sun's "SunBlade" UNIX Workstations. >My question is in re

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Lee Irving
The price seems to have gone through the roof. Can customers still only purchase support or has the price really gone up by 400% ? If the later is the case then this product will now be out of reach of many small businesses. The idea of additional services that could be offered is a great idea but

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Blake Heinemann
I'm assuming that the subscription fees are if the end user buys direct from Mitel/E-smith. I would also assume Mitel will charge the integrators less for the subscription and they they set their own price for their customers, just like in the past. Service link is a value add for all. It doesn't

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Justin Funke
I was wondering who would go first :) > Subscription fees? That's some expensive DNS "monitoring" > fees. The only > "customers" who are going to pay this outragous fee is big > business, which > makes sense for Mitel. I have two comments here. There is much more than just DNS monitoring.

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Ken Yuinipo
Subscription fees? That's some expensive DNS "monitoring" fees. The only "customers" who are going to pay this outragous fee is big business, which makes sense for Mitel. SME Server V5 (or whatever you call it now) smells a lot like Windows XP... Yes, let us RENT you our "SERVICES/ADDITIONA

[e-smith-devinfo] Re: Mail failure

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
Woops, apologies to Lotus. These particular bounces are coming from: "MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2650.12" It's still incorrect behaviour Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel N

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Server monitoring module ready for download

2001-08-22 Thread Blake Heinemann
Jaco Bongers wrote: > Jaime wrote > > Last, is the problem of the admin password. I really don't have any > > clue of why somepeople get this error. > > Replace genHeaderNonCacheable with genHeaderNonCacheableNoPasswordCheck and > the message will go away. > > Could it be that the problem only oc

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Kirrily Robert wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:51:12AM +, Kai Kiang wrote: > > Where is the documentation on all these db command syntax and usage, as well > > as the events that should be raised? > > Sitting in my "stuff to do" pile. I'll get to it soonish, I think

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] adding programs to startup / building contribs

2001-08-22 Thread Smith, Jeffery S \(Scott\)
Gordon Lots to digest there. Let me dig through it, then I may break out follow-ups into new threads. Thanks, Scott -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To u

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Server monitoring module ready for download

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Jaco Bongers wrote: > Jaime wrote > > Last, is the problem of the admin password. I really don't have any > > clue of why somepeople get this error. > > Replace genHeaderNonCacheable with genHeaderNonCacheableNoPasswordCheck and > the message will go away. > > Could it be th

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] adding programs to startup / building contribs

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Gordon Rowell wrote: > > BTW, it would be helpful if the console had some mechanism to dynamically > > build the list of supported dyndns providers. > > Yep. We have done half the job - splitting all of the dynamic DNS scripts > into separate RPMs. We haven't added the autom

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Justin Funke
Are there any significant feature changes to the core server or just the addition of the services and underlying design? Justin. -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROT

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Mail failure

2001-08-22 Thread Charlie Brady
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ?? Not a very explicit question. But I guess you are asking us why you got this mail message. It is because somebody else on this list is using the same broken mail transport agent software that you happen to use (evidenced by the BROADCAST/K

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Kirrily Robert
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:51:12AM +, Kai Kiang wrote: > Where is the documentation on all these db command syntax and usage, as well > as the events that should be raised? Sitting in my "stuff to do" pile. I'll get to it soonish, I think. K. -- Kirrily "Skud" Robert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-smith-devinfo] SME Server V5 with ServiceLink announced

2001-08-22 Thread Kirrily Robert
Folks, Mitel Networks is pleased to announce the forthcoming release of SME Server V5 (the product formerly known as the e-smith server and gateway) with ServiceLink (a suite of services related to managing your server). >From the press release: > OTTAWA, Ont.- Aug. 22, 2001 - The Network Serve

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Server monitoring module ready for download

2001-08-22 Thread Jaco Bongers
Jaime wrote > Last, is the problem of the admin password. I really don't have any > clue of why somepeople get this error. Replace genHeaderNonCacheable with genHeaderNonCacheableNoPasswordCheck and the message will go away. Could it be that the problem only occurs on upgraded system and not on

[e-smith-devinfo] Re: Log monitor

2001-08-22 Thread Dean Staff
On 21 Aug 2001, at 23:42, Charlie Brady wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Dean Staff wrote: > > > One question though... Is it possible to get your script to run the > > /var/log/qmail/@000* files through tailocal before being displayed? > > The question we need to ask here is whether this is a

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Kai Kiang
Where is the documentation on all these db command syntax and usage, as well as the events that should be raised? Kai. >From: Gordon Rowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Jelmer Kuperus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services >D

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Gordon Rowell
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 11:15:31AM +0200, Jelmer Kuperus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is this better than editting the file It is currently a text file, but is very likely not to be in the future. The db command is our published interface to the configuration database(s). > and raising a co

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Jelmer Kuperus
Why is this better than editting the file and raising a console save event ? -Original Message- From: Gordon Rowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 22 augustus 2001 11:04 To: Jelmer Kuperus Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Gordon Rowell
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:42:48AM +0200, Jelmer Kuperus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > /home/e-smith/configuration > > it's just a textfile True, though you should make changes with the "db" program rather than editing the file. For example, /sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop smtpd status d

[e-smith-devinfo] RE: e-smith manager "limitations" (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Squidguard GUI)

2001-08-22 Thread Jelmer Kuperus
An interestingg suggestion Would there be people interested in helping create an e-smith 'powerpack' ? -Original Message- From: Gordon Rowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 22 augustus 2001 10:29 To: Jelmer Kuperus Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: e-smith ma

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Jelmer Kuperus
/home/e-smith/configuration it's just a textfile -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: woensdag 22 augustus 2001 9:29 To: Gordon Rowell Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services And this database would be where??? Th

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread jason
And this database would be where??? Thankyou, Jason Green, Lotus Notes Admin/Developer. Canberra Australia. Gordon Rowell

[e-smith-devinfo] e-smith manager "limitations" (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Squidguard GUI)

2001-08-22 Thread Gordon Rowell
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:53:56PM +0200, Jelmer Kuperus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think that goes for a lot more things in e-smith , i find the management > console is really kind of limmiting > [...] Limiting user visible options is a primary e-smith design goal. We don't expect users to m

Fwd: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Darrell May
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > To all, > I have created scripts etc to get my Domino service to start but I > cannot find out where to make it start the server automagically... > I have S99Domino in the /etc/rc.d/rc3.d directory but it does not start > it... S99Domino should be a link in /etc/rc.d

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] VPN Question

2001-08-22 Thread Gordon Rowell
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:25:26AM -0500, Alexander Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know about a howto, in e-smith there is really almost nothing you > need to do in order to get it to work... If you enabled remote access and > have more than 0 users in the number of connections, and

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