Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Mike Sensney
On Monday 29 December 2003 05:37 pm, Dick Morrell wrote: > Quoting Mike Sensney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sigh. If you really want to think so then so be it. This is a developer's > > list. > > It is for people who actually write code to discuss problems they are > > having and > > to discuss what t

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] sme 6.0

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Justin Zygmont wrote: > I am trying to install sme server 6 download edition and it doesn;t want > to install. It complains that the kickstart config is missing. Does > anyone know why it is failing? Please go to http://www.contribs.org/ and ask your question there. This

[e-smith-devinfo] sme 6.0

2003-12-29 Thread Justin Zygmont
I am trying to install sme server 6 download edition and it doesn;t want to install. It complains that the kickstart config is missing. Does anyone know why it is failing? thanks. -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Supp

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Powerswitch for SME

2003-12-29 Thread Jeff Coleman
Thanks Michiel! This looks very useful. -jeff > -Original Message- > From: Michiel Blotwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:42 PM > Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Powerswitch for SME > > I compiled and repackaged Joris van Rantwijk's powerswitch > module for

[e-smith-devinfo] Powerswitch for SME

2003-12-29 Thread Michiel Blotwijk
Hi, I compiled and repackaged Joris van Rantwijk's powerswitch module for the SME server. From Joris' documentation: The powerswitch driver makes it possible to use the ATX power button on your computer to shutdown Linux. You simply press the power button, and the driver

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Dick Morrell
Quoting Mike Sensney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sigh. If you really want to think so then so be it. This is a developer's > list. > It is for people who actually write code to discuss problems they are > having and > to discuss what they are considering. Others who are not developers should > stay

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Mike Sensney
At 03:42 PM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 29 December 2003 05:32 pm, Mike Sensney wrote: > As such I thought that thread should end. > Exactly what I was referring to. Thank you for making my point. It *IS* who(m) is talking. Sigh. If you really want to think so then so be it. T

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 29 December 2003 07:05 pm, you wrote: IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. This sounds like you still do not

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 07:07 pm, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > You where the first, and the first with an answer I was looking for. > Thanks for the answer and advice. No problemo with either. My pleasure. And the best of luck with whatever you decide to do. Very best regards; Bob Finch > > Ja

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 07:05 pm, you wrote: > > IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY > > similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is > > rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. > > This sounds like you still do not agree / believe / fe

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Hey Ricard; Thanxs for the very polite reply. Well I was referring to 2.1 which has been out for almost a month now. It is a good product and seems very solid to me. YMMV of course. I agree that 2.0 was less than stellar, but the "clark" staff also was quick to point out that it was an interi

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 07:02 pm, Richard Morrell wrote: > >IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar > > to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid > > AND comforms to GPL completely. > > Bob, I like what Clark Connect and their CE

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Jaap van Hemert
You where the first, and the first with an answer I was looking for. Thanks for the answer and advice. Jaap (PE1RHB) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 30 december 2003 0:57 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] I

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Hsing-Foo Wang
IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. This sounds like you still do not agree / believe / feel that Mitel unsupported developers release is GPL compliant

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. Bob, I like what Clark Connect and their CEO stand for, he's a great guy who I respect a lot, however the pro

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Rasjid Wilcox
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 02:35, Brian Luerssen wrote: > Unless they have modified gpl sourcecode, at which point they are obligated > (i think..) to release their changes/improvements back to the world. To the best of my knowledge (IANAL), if the source is distributed with the product at the t

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 06:29 pm, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > Sorry for posting this topic, > I'm rather new in this list and was only expecting a yes or no. Well the answer to your orginal question is : yes. Some others illuminated on this I suppose, I wasn't one of them. as I answered in one s

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 05:32 pm, Mike Sensney wrote: > At 11:48 AM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, > > > > and > > > > > I hit the wrong button. > > > >Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounce

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Jaap van Hemert
Sorry for posting this topic, I'm rather new in this list and was only expecting a yes or no. Just from a user perspective SW and esmith are both great products with their pro's and con's. Without knowing anything of GPL, MaPs, OSI, ect... my gutfeeling says it's not right to do so. But I could be

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Mike Sensney
At 11:48 AM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, and > I hit the wrong button. Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounced and then asked to not discuss this anymore on this dev-list the very last time su

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounced and then asked to not discuss this anymore on this dev-list the very last time such a topic came up. I guess it is "who" makes a comment more than "what is being said" that matters here. Sigh. Bob Finch Freedom of speech

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 12:50 pm, Charlie Brady wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, John Cusick wrote: > > Were you about to make a comment, or was this a subtle comment on the > > excessive top-posting and lack of cleaning up previous messages? > > > > :-) > > Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Charlie Brady wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Richard Morrell wrote: I am guilty of this - wholesale. That's an interesting public admission. Thats why I made it, its not an admission - SW doesn't breach the GPL, what it does do is not clearly make available modifications. What it should

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Richard Morrell wrote: > I am guilty of this - wholesale. That's an interesting public admission. > SW Corporate products use GPL components and don't breach the GPL but > its a fine line. It really is. SmoothWall corporate products take GPL > code and make it proprietary.

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
> As to the distribution in question, one would need to examine the software > in more detail to verify compliance with the GPL. > > As you can see here: > > http://youresale.com/products/yes_license_agreement.php > > they 1) inform their customers that the GPL applies to some included > softw

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, John Cusick wrote: > Were you about to make a comment, or was this a subtle comment on the > excessive top-posting and lack of cleaning up previous messages? > > :-) Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, and I hit the wrong button. Back to

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread John Cusick
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 10:04, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > Hi, > > "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers > based on e-smith distro without any reference. Wow... I thought Mitel's Partnership program was expensive for a "MaPs" (to use the ESALE term for Mom and Pop

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread John Cusick
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 10:42, Charlie Brady wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. > > > > > > On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four typ

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. > > > On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers > > based on e-smith distro without any reference

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Brian Luerssen
Unless they have modified gpl sourcecode, at which point they are obligated (i think..) to release their changes/improvements back to the world. Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: Hi, "Your E Sal

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: > Hi, > > "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers > based on e-smith distro without any reference. > > Is that alowed to put your own brand to it? > Jaap > > >

[e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Jaap van Hemert
Hi, "Your E Sale" (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers based on e-smith distro without any reference. Is that alowed to put your own brand to it? Jaap -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for