I note in the headers you CC'd the wr 0.3b1
announcement to "whiterose-devel".. but there's
no mention of this on the whiterose homepage?
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enting K&R style instead of following
the GNU coding standards.. there's hope for you. =)
Now I gotta figure out what each of these files
do and how this thing works. If Oskar is right,
I'll have to be extra careful.
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ed, you'll
be able to network with the 3 other functioning Freenet nodes out
there!
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> FAQ) were all broken. The links worked fine when I tried them via
> the "http://freenet.sourceforge.net/"; page. Is it just me?
The URLs aren't relative...
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th the client and
server to wait before dropping the attempt. I screwed around with
UDP for a chat program once. I had assumed that since it was on a
switched LAN there would be no problems with data being out of
order or not arriving at all. Big mistake
things and let the Java
people do things the way Sun told them to.
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oncerned. You'll also save yourself a fork-and-exec in the process
and some IPC as well.. I'm not aware of any way to pipe the output
directly back into memory, it would need to be written to disk or to
a FIFO, adding much more overhead for a very si
here to
> download it): http://www.freebsd.org/
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Daemons look cooler than
penguins... but nobody can argue that there's more apps available
for linux than the *BSDs. Not only that, but my copy of Spice is
linux/NT only right now. :(
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or
sure if Freenet runs as root, but I believe it is safe
to assume the developers are trying to make sure that
is not necessary. This leaves us with 2049, our freenet
node.
Do I get a prize?
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> pptp1723/tcp #Point-to-point tunnelling protocol
I can confirm that this port is used by the VPN services available
under Windows 98, 98-SE, WinNT 4.0sp1 and above, and W2K (all versions).
This is also used by the PoPToP linux pptp daemon.
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t and invalidate that node.. and pass the word on via the trust
network (perhaps a signed an authenticated "kill" command?) to have
the offending node delinked. This would be similar to how IRC works.
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x27;t watching the control
traffic)?
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he rest of the stuff isn't
even worth grabbing off Napster. :/
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[1] I'm a fan of the pre-load metallica stuff, but when they went
alternative, they completely lost it. Master of puppets rules.
I sometimes use it as my "Quake CD".
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ou make clumsy
> attempts to hide the existence of your node, then claim after
> you're caught that the node was only for good bits instead of
> bad bits.
Unless of course Freenet per default hides itself. There are good
justifications for
> > Anyone man enough to volunteer? ;)
>
> Last I heard Whiterose is still a one man crusade...
I keep hearing murmurs of Whiterose, but where's the
code? The freenet page has a link, but it is dead.
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> You mean compared to running a server that doesn't have a port at all?
> You're right it would be pretty damn hard to remove the (nonexistant)
> traffic of that server...
How do you find the server in the first place??? Think abo
> that's bad, indeed. why not makeing the node refuse to start whithout
> a port defined?
By setting a port, keep in mind it becomes orders of magnitude easier
to locate and remove (or filter) freenet traffic.
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this incredible bad taste attack...
=) Heh..
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rying
to figure out what the programmer was trying to accomplish.
I can reasonably quickly turn a good idea into code, but it's
hard to reverse that process and figure out where the good idea
was in someone else's code.
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> You might want to look at the book 'Linux Core Kernel Commentary'
> even if you don't plan on being a kernel hacker. It shows off a
> lot of real-world programing practice. In fact, I think its a
> must-read for all programers. No, I don't work for the publisher! :)
I've been looking for
, that
same file will be replicated approximately 200 times to the
other subscribers (for this list). Your 100kb file has now consumed
~250KB of bandwidth, probably more due to overhead.
*this* is why files should *never* be sent to mailing lists
which are on the internet.
clear), but I'm not so sure it's a great idea for
normal use. If this is the result of having to make a blocking call
(as most dns lookups ARE), and the client in question is not threaded...
that may be justification... but it just undescores why threading
of some sort (even primitivel
just buy them off like nVidia does whenever they release a new chipset!
:D
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#x27;t accede to your wishes.
Determination of which is "worse" is left as an excercise for the reader.
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g as
root which can be controlled via IPC to do it for you. The security
implications of running a freenet node as root are... well... substantial.
As a user, I wouldn't do it.
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> Still just my $0.03 (3 cents isn't worth what it used to be)
Since that saying was first invented, I would have to say
it actually needs to be about $1.26, accounting for inflation.
Talk is getting cheaper every year......
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er when the GNU
C++ compiler will start using those good ideas..
So you can see I'm both a) not terribly experienced and b)
not terribly happy with what experiences I do have. I believe
all current language developers need to be dragged out into the
street... and forced to code in pascal.
So
ering the process priority might be okay. Might be tricky to get right.
Might be. I'm not a good enough programmer to say whether it would
work the way we need it to.
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h
a hack, but
it is probably portable between most all modern unixes...
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> Send it to AGL. ;-)
Yeah, but make sure to include a copyright notice which states
you must quote the ENTIRE faq if you quote it at all.. none of
this taking things out of context stuff that is so common in
the media...
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now what the
aforementioned system will look like when it's done so they can
submit patches that have a reasonable chance of being used...
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people (myself included) are used
to C. :( I'm waiting for a usable C/C++ client to become available so
I can start hacking on *that* and let the java crew worry about all things
java instead.
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That gave me an idea.. what about an IRC conference between reporters
and the freenet developers? Give them a chance to see the other half of
copyright law..
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Education is the best defense against the media
w would be a good time to drop this thread...
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re? I'd like to see that...
First, I can tell you've never talked to a monk before, and second,
if you're that concered, keep a cyanide capsule with you.
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at a lower power consumption rate and be more
effective.
Twice nothing is still nothing, however..
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x27;ve come so far in this conversation by being impractical
and unreasonable, why do we have to be reasonable on /this/ point?
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That particular induhvidual was caught and jailed. It is also an ineffective
method of promoting change. Change can only come through creation, never
destruction.
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It's times like these that I admire my ability to keep a straight face.
_
board in a
secure fashion). This still isn't a highly secure solution though due to
tempest emissions... but fixing that is left as an excercise to the
reader.
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27;t necessarily have to be that way.
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These three ideas, coupled, means that Freenet works alot like a Borg cube -
it can continue to function even if large portions of the network is offline
or compromised, and it can function in hostile environments. Not only that,
but it packs a helluva lot of firepower. :)
Oh yeah.. resistance *is*
).
As has been demonstrated previously, programmers are not well known
for their sanity. Afterall, we have Windows...
*grinning, ducking, and running*
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would strongly recommend against deploying a looped filesystem
over a software RAID solution (any level) as there are known issues with
the RAID code in the linux kernel - both in terms of its interaction
with any ReiserFS partition and the loopback device.
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t seem to damage us very much... OTOH, a certain
oriental capitalist society that decided to go laise faire didn't
"faire" so well (pardon the pun).
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ICQ uses a method whereby the client contacts another server, and it
tells you the IP address. Perhaps the Freenet client could be patched
to allow this? It might also improve security.. detecting proxies
between the host and client, and whatnot...
> -Original Message-
> From: freenet-dev
Why can't the compiler just respond with a simple error message
like "Burp." ?
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> > Is this NSA censorship or just a goof on the part of the printers?
> > Seems like a pretty fundamental goof to leave an entire chapter out of
> > a book!
No, no.. submit it to slashdot.. *then* go get a "good" copy...
they'll take any chance they can get t
ing work on my "$5 million dollar challenge" linux
box, once I'm done I'll be more than happy to do the writeup
on a step-by-step of securing linux boxen for freenet.
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ols so they
can claim they took reasonable precautions against redistribution of
the censored data (ie, an automated way of tagging and removing data from
their node) -OR- plausible deniability as to whether or not the information
was ever there to begin with, depending on the legal climate of
nted during that boot, you're up a creek. So network integrity
is still a very important item.. all this does is make physical
compromise of your node alot harder. Nothing more, nothing less.
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> Changing the forwarding logic should not be done lightly, as it
> is important that all nodes use the same logic so that requests
> can find inserted data.
Well, since we're effectively creating a network, examining
router algorithms like BGP and stuff would probably do alot of
people some go
he data to discrete sizes (1k, 2k, 4k, whatever). From
a performance standpoint, however, I can't complain - it would
make seeking through the database (or cache, or file, whatever)
less resource-intensive.. since you know the offset ahead of time,
instead of having to seek to it.
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..
ould tend to agree, but I also tend to try to lock my system down
alot more than most.
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> One crazy idea I had which someone might think about implementing is a
> piece of software which plays sounds relating to the activity of your
> Freenet node. A transfer in progress could have a low hum, a request
Hmmm.. how about a graphical plugin.. we can call it "LSD FreeNe
sions. Do an lsattr and make sure
nothing there is enabled. Unlikely, but possible.
Lastly, run mount with no arguments and make sure you didn't mount
the filesystem readonly...
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and we can discuss it further.
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> Freenet user. And there _is_ security that makes thing impossible - hash
> functions, cyphers, and even your mixnet that sent everything in
No, difficult, mathematically. Impossible, never.
> keyspace. As of 0.3 we are introducing a number of keys that are
> cryptographically tied to the data
Doubtful.
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Can we kill this thread quick before we get a
regular flame war going? Everyone and their mother
has been over the Java v. C v. ${FAVORITE_LANGUAGE}
bit a dozen times. Barring some radical advance in
computer science, I don't think we'll get a better
answer this time around! :)
~
zero experience in porting anything...
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u aren't careful. :(
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like 30
> developers with cvs access we have only 4-5 doing any work.
I'll see what I can do to raise that number. :)
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27;dat. Let's see... you have
12 tones.. not much to work with. But let's assume you pulse
them at 1ms intervals... so we'll get 12 * 10^3.. or 1500 bits
per second.. that equates to exactly 1 TCP/IP packet per
second. Hey.. it's doable...
> By the way, is this the Signa
reenet.
Carnivore stops stupid criminals. Not intelligent ones. I think I can say
with a fair level of confidence most of the people developing freenet
aren't slouches. :)
So don't worry about Carnivore. You can't stop it, but you can route
around it by properly architecturing your pr
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