Am 15.02.2011 01:05, schrieb bearophile:
Nemerle and Factor removed from Wikipedia? What are those deletionists doing?
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fkt7t/nemerle_factor_alice_ml_and_other_programming/
Is D page too at risk of deletion?
(Months ago those sick people have deleted
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Daniel Gibson metalcae...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 01:05, schrieb bearophile:
Nemerle and Factor removed from Wikipedia? What are those deletionists
doing?
Andrew Wiley wrote:
No, they have a point. That philosophy doesn't work because at some
point, there's too much information. Too much to edit to make sure it
meets standards, too much to browse (if the links are bad enough to
parody with the Wikipedia game, how bad would they be with unlimited
Am 15.02.2011 09:24, schrieb Walter Bright:
Andrew Wiley wrote:
No, they have a point. That philosophy doesn't work because at some
point, there's too much information. Too much to edit to make sure it
meets standards, too much to browse (if the links are bad enough to
parody with the Wikipedia
On 02/15/2011 02:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:26:26 Don wrote:
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2011 12:49:11 Tomek Sowiński wrote:
spir napisał:
* Why isn't testList a unittest block?
Using named funcs, I can switch on off specific test
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 00:46:25 spir wrote:
On 02/15/2011 02:42 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:26:26 Don wrote:
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2011 12:49:11 Tomek Sowiński wrote:
spir napisał:
* Why isn't testList a unittest block?
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:03:06 +0100, spir wrote:
1. Named unittests allowing test suites in the form of (just an
example):
unittest test1 {
...
}
unittest test2 {
...
}
unittest test3 {
...
}
unittest {
test1;
test2;
test3;
}
/Unnamed/ unittests
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:03:01 -0500, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
I think linker errors in general are one of those things that few people
understand, and most cope with just pattern recognition Oh, I see
_deh_start, probably forgot main() with no regards to logic. :)
Please get out of my
On 2/14/11 10:38 PM, Matthias Walter wrote:
1. Are there any further suggestions on the implementations / Did I
forget something?
Are benchmarks done with BigInt and long too? (If you test bigints you need
bigger numbers too, and to test that the results are correct).
Yeah, so I did tests
On 2011-02-15 01:08, Walter Bright wrote:
dsimcha wrote:
Now that DMD has a 64-bit beta available, I'm working on getting a
whole bunch
of code to compile in 64 mode. Frankly, the compiler is way too freakin'
pedantic when it comes to implicit conversions (or lack thereof) of
array.length.
On 02/15/2011 02:28 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:06:43 spir wrote:
On 02/15/2011 01:56 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2011 16:30:09 Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
Here's something I've noticed (x86 code):
void main()
{
ulong size = 2;
On 02/15/2011 02:55 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard
On 02/15/2011 02:58 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:06:43 spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias? (would
vote
On 02/15/2011 03:11 AM, Don wrote:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:06:43 spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias?
Caligo Wrote:
How about Eigen?
http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
I've used it extensively in my C++ projects, and I'm very pleased.
Last time I counted, Eigen was about 10-15k lines of C++ code. It's all
templates, and it might be the perfect project to translate to
On 02/15/2011 03:26 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Monday, February 14, 2011 18:19:35 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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I believe that t is for type. The same goes for types such as
On 02/15/2011 03:47 AM, bearophile wrote:
Don:
But still, cache effects are more important than instruction scheduling
in 99% of cases.
I agree.
CPUs have prefetching instructions, but D doesn't expose them as intrinsics. A
bit more higher level visibility for those instructions may be
On 02/15/2011 02:25 AM, bearophile wrote:
D is much much more notable than Nemerle, Alice ML, Pure, Nosica, Kiev,
Einstein, Alma-0, Joy, Zonnon, Y, Cat, Fancy, Ambi, Ptolemy, Mythryl, COMIT,
Ioke, EASY, Aikido, A+, Adenine, Afnix, Bsisith, ChinesePython, AngelScript,
Algae, Agena, Taxi,
Walter:
Huh, I simply could never find a document about how to use those which gave me
any comfortable sense that the author knew what he was talking about.
http://www.agner.org/optimize/
--
Don:
A problem with that, is that the prefetching instructions are vendor-specific.
On 02/15/2011 08:56 AM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 01:05, schrieb bearophile:
Nemerle and Factor removed from Wikipedia? What are those deletionists doing?
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fkt7t/nemerle_factor_alice_ml_and_other_programming/
Is D page too at risk of
On 02/15/2011 05:50 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
The question is then do you want to be more consistent with the
language (abolish size_t and make something nicer), or be consistent
with the known standards (C99 ISO, et all.).
I'd vote for a change, but I know it will never happen (even though it
On 02/15/2011 06:51 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
The question is then do you want to be more consistent with the
language (abolish size_t and make something nicer), or be consistent
with the known standards (C99 ISO, et all.).
I'd vote for a change, but I know it will never
On 02/15/2011 03:44 AM, Piotr Szturmaj wrote:
spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias? (would
vote for Natural)
Maybe ptrint and ptruint?
If ptr means pointer, then it's wrong: size-t is used for more than that, I
guess. Strangely enough, while size may
On 02/15/2011 09:11 AM, Andrew Wiley wrote:
When you open that door, useful content gets drowned in
floods of things like useless biographies and advertisements for
things no one has heard of.
But who says which are useful? You? Soft-bots? Academics? (who, as Bearophile
said, are the ones
On 02/15/2011 09:43 AM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 09:24, schrieb Walter Bright:
Andrew Wiley wrote:
No, they have a point. That philosophy doesn't work because at some
point, there's too much information. Too much to edit to make sure it
meets standards, too much to browse (if the
On 02/15/2011 10:00 AM, Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:03:06 +0100, spir wrote:
1. Named unittests allowing test suites in the form of (just an
example):
unittest test1 {
...
}
unittest test2 {
...
}
unittest test3 {
...
}
unittest {
test1;
Vladimir Panteleev Wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 03:00:59 +0200, Aaron Smith m...@pathway.org wrote:
Thank god we have TDPL, otherwise the D page would quickly lose this
battle. D is much much more notable than Nemerle, Alice ML, Pure,
Nosica, Kiev, Einstein, Alma-0, Joy, Zonnon, Y,
On 2/15/11 5:23 AM, spir wrote:
Agreed. Very much agreed, in fact. Wikipedia is /the/ place for
innovation to get a chance; probably the only one, even. (esp in our
money-driven civilisation)
As an aside, it's quite remarkable that such a movement and others
similar originated in the
spir Wrote:
On 02/15/2011 02:25 AM, bearophile wrote:
D is much much more notable than Nemerle, Alice ML, Pure, Nosica, Kiev,
Einstein, Alma-0, Joy, Zonnon, Y, Cat, Fancy, Ambi, Ptolemy, Mythryl,
COMIT, Ioke, EASY, Aikido, A+, Adenine, Afnix, Bsisith, ChinesePython,
AngelScript,
Vladimir Panteleev Wrote:
Wikipedia articles must prove that they are notable enough, and people
unfamiliar with the subject must be able to verify it. Otherwise, it
fosters self-promotion.
Wikipedia has rules which may seem unfair or unbalanced at times, but
they're mostly logical
Am 15.02.2011 12:50, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 03:44 AM, Piotr Szturmaj wrote:
spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias? (would
vote for Natural)
Maybe ptrint and ptruint?
If ptr means pointer, then it's wrong: size-t is used for more than
that, I guess.
Walter Bright wrote:
Don wrote:
In hand-coded asm, instruction scheduling still gives more than half
of the same benefit that it used to do. But, it's become ten times
more difficult. You have to use Agner Fog's manuals, not Intel/AMD.
For example:
(1) a common bottleneck on all Intel
Am 15.02.2011 11:30, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 02:58 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Jonathan M Davisjmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote in message
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On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:06:43 spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a
spir wrote:
On 02/15/2011 03:44 AM, Piotr Szturmaj wrote:
spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias? (would
vote for Natural)
Maybe ptrint and ptruint?
If ptr means pointer, then it's wrong: size-t is used for more than
that, I guess. Strangely enough,
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:58:17 -0500, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote in message
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On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:06:43 spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard
Sometimes I think we should troll the users a little and make
a release with names like so:
alias size_t
TypeUsedForArraySizes_Indexes_AndOtherRelatedTasksThatNeedAnUnsignedMachineSizeWord;
alias ptrdiff_t
TypeUsedForDifferencesBetweenPointers_ThatIs_ASignedMachineSizeWordAlsoUsableForOffsets;
Yes, 2.51:
Digital Mars D Compiler v2.051
Copyright (c) 1999-2010 by Digital Mars written by Walter Bright
Documentation: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/index.html
Usage:
...
On 02/15/2011 01:22 PM, Aaron Smith wrote:
Vladimir Panteleev Wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 03:00:59 +0200, Aaron Smithm...@pathway.org wrote:
Thank god we have TDPL, otherwise the D page would quickly lose this
battle. D is much much more notable than Nemerle, Alice ML, Pure,
Nosica, Kiev,
On 02/15/2011 02:01 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 12:50, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 03:44 AM, Piotr Szturmaj wrote:
spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias? (would
vote for Natural)
Maybe ptrint and ptruint?
If ptr means pointer, then it's
On 02/15/2011 02:36 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:58:17 -0500, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote in message
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On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:06:43 spir wrote:
On 02/15/2011 01:36 PM, Aaron Smith wrote:
spir Wrote:
On 02/15/2011 02:25 AM, bearophile wrote:
D is much much more notable than Nemerle, Alice ML, Pure, Nosica, Kiev,
Einstein, Alma-0, Joy, Zonnon, Y, Cat, Fancy, Ambi, Ptolemy, Mythryl, COMIT,
Ioke, EASY, Aikido, A+, Adenine, Afnix,
spir wrote:
press play
Since size_t is an alias, you wouldn't see it's name anywhere
except the source code.
Am 15.02.2011 15:18, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 02:01 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 12:50, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 03:44 AM, Piotr Szturmaj wrote:
spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias? (would
vote for Natural)
Maybe ptrint and ptruint?
Am 15.02.2011 15:11, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 01:36 PM, Aaron Smith wrote:
spir Wrote:
On 02/15/2011 02:25 AM, bearophile wrote:
D is much much more notable than Nemerle, Alice ML, Pure, Nosica,
Kiev, Einstein, Alma-0, Joy, Zonnon, Y, Cat, Fancy, Ambi, Ptolemy,
Mythryl, COMIT, Ioke, EASY,
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:26:21 -0500, spir denis.s...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/15/2011 02:36 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Hey, bikeshedders, I found this cool easter-egg feature in D! It's
called
alias! Don't like the name of something? Well you can change it!
alias size_t wordsize;
spir wrote:
On 02/15/2011 02:01 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 12:50, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 03:44 AM, Piotr Szturmaj wrote:
spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias? (would
vote for Natural)
Maybe ptrint and ptruint?
If ptr means pointer,
== Quote from dsimcha (dsim...@yahoo.com)'s article
Now that DMD has a 64-bit beta available, I'm working on getting a whole bunch
of code to compile in 64 mode. Frankly, the compiler is way too freakin'
pedantic when it comes to implicit conversions (or lack thereof) of
array.length.
Iain Buclaw wrote:
Came across this obscure documentation in the tldp.
Libraries should export initialization and cleanup routines using the
gcc __attribute__((constructor)) and __attribute__((destructor))
function attributes.
This is what gdc was doing anyway.
Constructor routines are
bearophile wrote:
Walter:
Huh, I simply could never find a document about how to use those which gave me any
comfortable sense that the author knew what he was talking about.
http://www.agner.org/optimize/
--
Don:
A problem with that, is that the prefetching instructions
On 11/02/2011 06:35, Walter Bright wrote:
snip
I hate not being able to force functions to be inline. A consequence is that
you can't
fully interface certain APIs without an extra .lib over what would be needed in
C(++).
You cannot force inlining in C(++) either. The inline keyword is only a
Steven Schveighoffer Wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:26:21 -0500, spir denis.s...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/15/2011 02:36 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
Hey, bikeshedders, I found this cool easter-egg feature in D! It's
called
alias! Don't like the name of something? Well you can
I've been experimenting with Andrei's buffered input range and noticed
that appendToFront(size_t n) may benefit from a slightly different
definition.
Andrei describes it as appending at most n elements to the front. But
if you change that to at least, the range can ask the underlying
stream to
Daniel Gibson:
void main() {
size_t x;
writefln(typeof(x).stringof);
}
try this, too ;-)
Because it's an alias the information about size_t gone at runtime and
the real type is shown. uint in your case. (Here - gdc on amd64 - it's
ulong).
I think both typeof() and stringof are
One problem with at least is it might have to wait for two
packets to come off the network interface; could be fairly slow.
The at most means it will take whatever is available without
overflowing your buffer - it will never wait if there is any
data available.
2011/2/15 Adam Ruppe destructiona...@gmail.com:
One problem with at least is it might have to wait for two
packets to come off the network interface; could be fairly slow.
The at most means it will take whatever is available without
overflowing your buffer - it will never wait if there is any
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
As an aside, it's quite remarkable that such a movement and others
similar originated in the Capitalist world. History will tell, but I see
it as possible for the spirit to stay put.
It's the internet that has made large scale collaboration and cooperation
spir wrote:
That guy, if sincere, thought the content he asked for deletion was not
useful, certainly, since it apparently did not get any mention from
third-party sources. (actually, there lots of articles about some of
those Pls, but no one had cared about linking to them, so that guy was
Aaron Smith wrote:
although he's not widely considered a genius unlike the
authors of Factor and LuaJIT and Walter Bright.
Actually, I'm quite famous for being incompetent.
spir wrote:
Having to constantly explain that _t means type, that size does not
mean size, what this type is supposed to mean instead, what it is used
for in core and stdlib functionality, and what programmers are supposed
to use it for... isn't this a waste of our time? This, only because the
foobar wrote:
1. that size_t is inconsistent with D's style guide. the _t suffix is a C++ convention and not a D one. While it makes sense for [former?] C++ programmers it will confuse newcomers to D from other languages that would expect the language to follow its own style guide.
It's a C
I think David has raised a good point here that seems to have been lost
in the discussion about naming.
Please note that the C name of the machine word integer was usually
called int. The C standard only specifies a minimum bit-size for the
different types (see for example
I disagree that the discussion is pointless.
On the contrary, the OP pointed out some valid points:
1. that size_t is inconsistent with D's style guide. the _t suffix is
a C++ convention and not a D one. While it makes sense for [former?] C++
programmers it will confuse newcomers to D from
On 2011-02-15 16:02, Johannes Pfau wrote:
Iain Buclaw wrote:
Came across this obscure documentation in the tldp.
Libraries should export initialization and cleanup routines using the
gcc __attribute__((constructor)) and __attribute__((destructor))
function attributes.
This is what gdc was
Do D const references work the same as C++'s?
i.e.
- Can they bind to rvalues?
- Do they extend the life of rvalues?
If they do, are there any differences from C++?
If they don't, how do I pass large structs into a function efficiently?
Thanks
Torarin:
But isn't the reason you're supplying a value to appendToFront that
you do want a specific amount?
I figured it was just to give precision control over memory usage...
retard wrote:
Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:10:47 +0100, Lutger Blijdestijn wrote:
retard wrote:
Mon, 14 Feb 2011 04:44:43 +0200, so wrote:
Unfortunately DMC is always out of the question because the
performance is 10-20 (years) behind competition, fast compilation
won't help it.
Can you
Don wrote:
Walter Bright wrote:
Don wrote:
In hand-coded asm, instruction scheduling still gives more than half
of the same benefit that it used to do. But, it's become ten times
more difficult. You have to use Agner Fog's manuals, not Intel/AMD.
For example:
(1) a common bottleneck on all
On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:48:25 Peter Alexander wrote:
Do D const references work the same as C++'s?
i.e.
- Can they bind to rvalues?
- Do they extend the life of rvalues?
If they do, are there any differences from C++?
If they don't, how do I pass large structs into a function
On 15/02/11 7:55 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:48:25 Peter Alexander wrote:
Do D const references work the same as C++'s?
i.e.
- Can they bind to rvalues?
- Do they extend the life of rvalues?
If they do, are there any differences from C++?
If they don't, how
On 02/15/2011 08:05 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
foobar wrote:
1. that size_t is inconsistent with D's style guide. the _t suffix is a C++
convention and not a D one. While it makes sense for [former?] C++
programmers it will confuse newcomers to D from other languages that would
expect the
On 02/15/2011 03:25 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 15:18, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 02:01 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 12:50, schrieb spir:
On 02/15/2011 03:44 AM, Piotr Szturmaj wrote:
spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a meaningful standard alias? (would
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:15:06 -0500, Rainer Schuetze r.sagita...@gmx.de
wrote:
I think David has raised a good point here that seems to have been lost
in the discussion about naming.
Please note that the C name of the machine word integer was usually
called int. The C standard only
bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote in message
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Daniel Gibson:
void main() {
size_t x;
writefln(typeof(x).stringof);
}
try this, too ;-)
Because it's an alias the information about size_t gone at runtime and
the real type is shown.
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spir wrote:
Having to constantly explain that _t means type, that size does not
mean size, what this type is supposed to mean instead, what it is used
for in core and stdlib functionality, and
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I read that the compiler is free to return whatever name of an alias,
i.e. either the name of the alias or the name of the thing it was
aliased to (which can be again an
On 02/15/2011 07:44 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
As an aside, it's quite remarkable that such a movement and others similar
originated in the Capitalist world. History will tell, but I see it as
possible for the spirit to stay put.
It's the internet that has made large
Am 15.02.2011 19:10, schrieb bearophile:
Daniel Gibson:
void main() {
size_t x;
writefln(typeof(x).stringof);
}
try this, too ;-)
Because it's an alias the information about size_t gone at runtime and
the real type is shown. uint in your case. (Here - gdc on amd64 - it's
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message
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spir wrote:
Having to constantly explain that _t means type, that size does not
mean size, what this type is supposed to mean instead, what it is used
for in core and
Am 15.02.2011 22:20, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message
news:ijeil4$2aso$3...@digitalmars.com...
spir wrote:
Having to constantly explain that _t means type, that size does not
mean size, what this type is supposed to mean instead, what it is
Adam Ruppe destructiona...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:ije0gi$18vo$1...@digitalmars.com...
Sometimes I think we should troll the users a little and make
a release with names like so:
alias size_t
TypeUsedForArraySizes_Indexes_AndOtherRelatedTasksThatNeedAnUnsignedMachineSizeWord;
alias
Am 15.02.2011 20:15, schrieb Rainer Schuetze:
I think David has raised a good point here that seems to have been lost in the
discussion about naming.
Please note that the C name of the machine word integer was usually called
int. The C standard only specifies a minimum bit-size for the
Steven Schveighoffer schvei...@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:op.vqx78nkceav7ka@steve-laptop...
size_t works, it has a precedent, it's already *there*, just use it, or
alias it if you don't like it.
One could make much the same argument about the whole of C++. It works, it
has a
Am 15.02.2011 22:48, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
Steven Schveighoffer schvei...@yahoo.com wrote in message
news:op.vqx78nkceav7ka@steve-laptop...
size_t works, it has a precedent, it's already *there*, just use it, or
alias it if you don't like it.
One could make much the same argument
On 2011-02-15 16:33:33 -0500, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com said:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message
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spir wrote:
Having to constantly explain that _t means type, that size does not
mean size,
Am 15.02.2011 23:00, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
so s...@so.so wrote in message news:op.vqyk3emumpw3zg@so-pc...
I disagree that the discussion is pointless.
On the contrary, the OP pointed out some valid points:
1. that size_t is inconsistent with D's style guide. the _t suffix is
a C++
On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:35:31 Peter Alexander wrote:
On 15/02/11 7:55 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:48:25 Peter Alexander wrote:
Do D const references work the same as C++'s?
i.e.
- Can they bind to rvalues?
- Do they extend the life of
On Monday, February 14, 2011 18:11:10 Don wrote:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote in message
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On Monday, February 14, 2011 17:06:43 spir wrote:
Rename size-t, or rather introduce a
Am 15.02.2011 23:29, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
Daniel Gibson metalcae...@gmail.com wrote in message
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Am 15.02.2011 23:00, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
so s...@so.so wrote in message news:op.vqyk3emumpw3zg@so-pc...
Funny thing is the most important argument
Daniel Gibson wrote:
Probably it would be helpful if size_t was a proper type that can't
be mixed with other types in dangerous ways without explicit casting.
Bad idea: once you insert an explicit cast, you now have a *hidden*
bug on the new platform instead of a compile error.
On 02/15/2011 10:45 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Adam Ruppedestructiona...@gmail.com wrote in message
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Sometimes I think we should troll the users a little and make
a release with names like so:
alias size_t
spir wrote:
And this itself was made possible by the fact software /re/production
costs are neglectable compared to production ones (human competence,
time motivation).
The same applies indeed, even more since the numeric revolution, to most
of human knowledge and creation. Result of music
Am 15.02.2011 23:43, schrieb Adam Ruppe:
Daniel Gibson wrote:
Probably it would be helpful if size_t was a proper type that can't
be mixed with other types in dangerous ways without explicit casting.
Bad idea: once you insert an explicit cast, you now have a *hidden*
bug on the new platform
Jonathan M Davis wrote:
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Personally, it wouldn't hurt my feelings any to have const ref take
temporaries. I do not understand why it's a problem. But Andrei insists
that it is. Presumably Walter agrees, but I don't know. They could very
well be right and that it's overall better _not_ to
so s...@so.so wrote in message news:op.vqyk3emumpw3zg@so-pc...
I disagree that the discussion is pointless.
On the contrary, the OP pointed out some valid points:
1. that size_t is inconsistent with D's style guide. the _t suffix is
a C++ convention and not a D one. While it makes sense for
On 02/15/2011 10:40 PM, Daniel Gibson wrote:
Am 15.02.2011 20:15, schrieb Rainer Schuetze:
I think David has raised a good point here that seems to have been lost in the
discussion about naming.
Please note that the C name of the machine word integer was usually called
int. The C standard
On 2/15/11 12:10 PM, Adam Ruppe wrote:
One problem with at least is it might have to wait for two
packets to come off the network interface; could be fairly slow.
Another is that the stream may end... so there's no guarantee.
Andrei
On 02/15/2011 10:49 PM, Michel Fortin wrote:
On 2011-02-15 16:33:33 -0500, Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com said:
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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spir wrote:
Having to constantly explain that
On 02/15/2011 11:24 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
Is there some low level reason why size_t should be signed or something I'm
completely missing?
My personal issue with unsigned ints in general as implemented in C-like
languages is that the range of non-negative signed integers is half of the
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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Steven Schveighoffer schvei...@yahoo.com wrote in message
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size_t works, it has a precedent, it's already *there*, just use it, or
alias it if you
On 15/02/11 10:47 PM, Lutger Blijdestijn wrote:
For reference, here is a link to the thread discussing it: http://www.mail-
archive.com/digitalmars-d@puremagic.com/msg44075.html
If I understood that discussion correctly, 'auto ref' is supposed to solve
the rvalue references problem but are not
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