On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:19:49 -0400, Era Scarecrow rtcv...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Apparently not.
http://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/posts/2010/10/how-many-users-have-javascript-disabled/
I'm perfectly willing to give up on 1-2% of Internet users who have JS
disabled.
I use NoScript, so
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 05:05:43 UTC, Jose Armando Garcia
wrote:
I think there is currently too much disagreement on std.log. I
am
honestly too busy juggling family, friends, school and work. I
am
currently leaning towards removing std.log from the review
queue and
spending some time
On 3/12/12 5:35 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 05:05:43 UTC, Jose Armando Garcia wrote:
I think there is currently too much disagreement on std.log. I am
honestly too busy juggling family, friends, school and work. I am
currently leaning towards removing std.log from the
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On Sat, 10 Mar
On 3/12/12 6:02 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Does nobody understand basic statistics?
I don't see evidence they don't.
First of all, 1-2% is a *hell* of a *LOT* of people. Don't be fooled by the
seemingly small number: It's a percentage and it's out of a *very* large
population. So 1-2% is
On Sunday, 11 March 2012 at 06:49:27 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:29:01AM -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Suppose you have a delegate literal and immediately call it:
auto a = x + (){ doStuff(); return y; }() + z;
Does DMD ever (or always?) optimize away a delegate if it's
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 23:04:17 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Does nobody understand basic statistics?
First of all, 1-2% is a *hell* of a *LOT* of people. Don't be
fooled by the
seemingly small number: It's a percentage and it's out of a
*very* large
population. So 1-2% is still *huge*.
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On 3/12/12 6:02 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Does nobody understand basic statistics?
I don't see evidence they don't.
First of all, 1-2% is a *hell* of a *LOT* of people. Don't be
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Besides, I am totally in favor of not needlessly required JS, but it does
have its legitimate uses.
*Using* it is fine as long as you don't go overboard. The issue is
*requiring* it when it
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Stats are pretty much the same (98.5% among ~1 »unique« visitors over
the last months) for my programming-centric blog, where I added a non-JS
tracking pixel precisely because I was
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 23:23:13 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
at the end of the day, you're still saying fuck you to
millions of people.
...for little to no reason. It's not like making 99% of
sites work without javascript takes *any* effort.
Indeed, going without javascript is often
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/12/12 5:35 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 05:05:43 UTC, Jose Armando Garcia wrote:
I think there is currently too much disagreement on std.log. I am
honestly too busy
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On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 23:23:13 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
at the end of the day, you're still saying fuck you to millions of
people.
...for little to no reason. It's not like making
On 13 March 2012 12:34, Jose Armando Garcia jsan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
I think that's a wise decision, thanks Jose and David.
One possibility is that Jose transfers the code to someone else who takes it
through the review process and makes
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:44 PM, James Miller ja...@aatch.net wrote:
On 13 March 2012 12:34, Jose Armando Garcia jsan...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
I think that's a wise decision, thanks Jose and David.
One possibility is that Jose transfers the
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 03:32:26 UTC, Chad J wrote:
On 03/11/2012 11:27 PM, Damian Ziemba wrote:
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 02:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 3/11/12 9:16 PM, Chad J wrote:
I remember doing colored terminal output in Python. It was
pretty nifty,
and allows for
On Mar 12, 2012 7:55 PM, Damian Ziemba s...@dzfl.pl wrote
And yea, I think like others that it should have its own module like
std.terminal/std.console or maybe somekind of spot in std.stdio.
Python has a great lib for this. I can't remember what package it is in
but it has things like isTty()
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 00:27:26 Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 23:23:13 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
at the end of the day, you're still saying fuck you to
millions of people.
...for little to no reason. It's not like making 99% of
sites work without javascript takes
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:15:02AM +0100, Peter Alexander wrote:
On Sunday, 11 March 2012 at 06:49:27 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:29:01AM -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Suppose you have a delegate literal and immediately call it:
auto a = x + (){ doStuff(); return y; }()
On 3/12/2012 1:56 PM, Martin Nowak wrote:
It doesn't require all source code.
It just means that without source code nothing can be inferred and the
attributes fall back to what has been annotated by hand.
Hello endless bug reports of the form:
It compiles when I send the arguments to dmd
In the case of my web apps, they do *not* pull JS from other
sites. I understand and sympathize with your rationale. It's
just not enough, however, to make web developers who want their
site to appear a certain way care about the market share that
your opinion represents. I'm perfectly
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 00:25:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
But that's a decision based on your needs as a website
developer. If JS best suits whatever the needs of a particular
website developer are, then they are completely justified in
using it,
because 99% of the people out there
On 3/12/2012 4:11 AM, deadalnix wrote:
For struct, we have inference,
? No we don't.
so most of the time attributes will correct.
const pure nothrow @safe are something we want, but is it something we want to
enforce ?
Yes, because they are referred to by TypeInfo, and that's fairly
On 3/12/2012 11:10 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
I believe that Walter likes to say that it takes away your excuse _not_ to
write them because of how easy it is to write unit tests in D.
It can be remarkable how much more use something gets if you just make it a bit
more convenient.
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 00:24:58 UTC, Kevin Cox wrote:
On Mar 12, 2012 7:55 PM, Damian Ziemba s...@dzfl.pl wrote
And yea, I think like others that it should have its own
module like
std.terminal/std.console or maybe somekind of spot in std.stdio.
Python has a great lib for this. I can't
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 01:50:29 Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 00:25:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
But that's a decision based on your needs as a website
developer. If JS best suits whatever the needs of a particular
website developer are, then they are completely
On 11/03/2012 23:54, Walter Bright wrote:
Consider the toHash() function for struct key types:
http://dlang.org/hash-map.html
And of course the others:
const hash_t toHash();
const bool opEquals(ref const KeyType s);
const int opCmp(ref const KeyType s);
snip
And what about toString?
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 01:15:59 Stewart Gordon wrote:
On 11/03/2012 23:54, Walter Bright wrote:
Consider the toHash() function for struct key types:
http://dlang.org/hash-map.html
And of course the others:
const hash_t toHash();
const bool opEquals(ref const KeyType s);
Stewart Gordon:
And what about toString?
Often in toString I use format() or text(), or to!string(), that currently
aren't pure nor nothrow.
But in this thread I have seen no answers regarding deprecating the need of
opCmp() for hashability.
Bye,
bearophile
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:27:41PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 01:15:59 Stewart Gordon wrote:
On 11/03/2012 23:54, Walter Bright wrote:
Consider the toHash() function for struct key types:
http://dlang.org/hash-map.html
And of course the others:
On 13-03-2012 02:28, bearophile wrote:
Stewart Gordon:
And what about toString?
Often in toString I use format() or text(), or to!string(), that currently
aren't pure nor nothrow.
But in this thread I have seen no answers regarding deprecating the need of
opCmp() for hashability.
Bye,
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 09:51:08 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2012-03-12 03:16, Chad J wrote:
I remember doing colored terminal output in Python. It was
pretty nifty,
and allows for some slick CLI design. I think D can do better
by putting
it in the standard library.
I was thinking
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:17:22PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 01:50:29 Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 00:25:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
But that's a decision based on your needs as a website developer.
If JS best suits whatever the
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No, it *is* the point.
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 01:53:11 UTC, Chad J wrote:
On 03/12/2012 09:36 PM, Christian Manning wrote:
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 09:51:08 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I think it would nice to have, but not in std.format.
std.terminal or
similar would be better.
It would be great if an
On 13 March 2012 14:58, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:17:22PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 01:50:29 Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 00:25:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
But that's a decision based on your
On 3/12/2012 6:40 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
And I'm not talking about doing just toHash, or just toString either.
Any of these functions have complex interdependencies with each other,
so it's either fix them ALL, or not at all.
Yup. It also seems very hard to figure out a transitional path to it.
On 3/12/2012 6:15 PM, Stewart Gordon wrote:
And what about toString?
Good question. What do you suggest?
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 07:06:51PM -0700, Walter Bright wrote:
On 3/12/2012 6:40 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
And I'm not talking about doing just toHash, or just toString either.
Any of these functions have complex interdependencies with each
other, so it's either fix them ALL, or not at all.
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This situation (where payphones were obsolete) existed long before the
smartphone craze.
Perhaps... I may be giving up my cell phone and having no phone
connection. I'd buy a phone card soon,
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:02:27AM +0100, Christian Manning wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 01:53:11 UTC, Chad J wrote:
On 03/12/2012 09:36 PM, Christian Manning wrote:
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 09:51:08 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
I think it would nice to have, but not in std.format.
On 03/12/2012 11:02 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:51:08AM +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2012-03-12 03:16, Chad J wrote:
I remember doing colored terminal output in Python. It was pretty
nifty, and allows for some slick CLI design. I think D can do better
by putting it in
On 13 March 2012 15:20, Chad J chadjoan@__spam.is.bad__gmail.com wrote:
On 03/12/2012 11:02 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:51:08AM +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2012-03-12 03:16, Chad J wrote:
I remember doing colored terminal output in Python. It was pretty
nifty, and
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On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 01:50:29 Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 00:25:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
But that's a decision based on your needs as a
On 13-03-2012 03:15, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 07:06:51PM -0700, Walter Bright wrote:
On 3/12/2012 6:40 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
And I'm not talking about doing just toHash, or just toString either.
Any of these functions have complex interdependencies with each
other, so it's
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Then, he asked for a partial ajax load thing. Turns out that's
trivially easy too. On the client:
That reminds me: Trendy web people seem to be a bit schizophrenic (I can't
believe I
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(And for the record, I don't own [a TV], and do not plan to. I know I'm in
the minority.
I can somewhat relate: I have a TV, but I rarely watch broadcast programming
anymore,
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:07:06 +0100, Walter Bright
newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote:
On 3/11/2012 12:32 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I'm convinced that colleges in general produce very bad programmers. The
good programmers who have degrees, for the most part (I'm sure there are
rare
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The phrase in web development is Progressive enhancement that used
to be all the rage at one point. I miss those days...
Heh. :) So true...
I miss the days when having animations on a
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:07:06 +0100, Walter Bright
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On 3/11/2012 12:32 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I'm convinced that colleges in general produce very bad programmers.
Walter:
Good question. What do you suggest?
I suggest to follow a slow but reliable path, working bottom-up: turn
to!string()/text()/format() into pure+nothrow functions, and then later require
toString to be pure+nothrow and to have such annotations.
Bye,
bearophile
On 3/12/2012 4:15 PM, Peter Alexander wrote:
On Sunday, 11 March 2012 at 06:49:27 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:29:01AM -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Suppose you have a delegate literal and immediately call it:
auto a = x + (){ doStuff(); return y; }() + z;
Does DMD ever
On 13 March 2012 15:48, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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The phrase in web development is Progressive enhancement that used
to be all the rage at one point. I miss those days...
Heh. :)
On 03/12/2012 03:17 AM, Alix Pexton wrote:
On 11/03/2012 16:49, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for a D grammar in (E)BNF form. Did any of you write
something like that or do you think I can use the grammar parts on
dlang.org?
I remember different threads on this subject and saw
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On Sunday, 11 March 2012 at 06:49:27 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:29:01AM -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Suppose you have a delegate literal and immediately call it:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:50:49 +0100, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:07:06 +0100, Walter Bright
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On 3/11/2012 12:32 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
I'm
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On 3/12/2012 4:15 PM, Peter Alexander wrote:
On Sunday, 11 March 2012 at 06:49:27 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:29:01AM -0500, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Suppose
On 3/12/2012 8:10 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Brad Roberts bra...@puremagic.com wrote:
See also: bug 4440
The patch in there, if it hasn't bit rotten to badly (I suspect it has)
will handle _this_ case. But almost no other
case of inlining delegates.
It'd be a good area for someone who
On 03/12/2012 07:51 PM, Damian Ziemba wrote:
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 03:32:26 UTC, Chad J wrote:
On 03/11/2012 11:27 PM, Damian Ziemba wrote:
On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 02:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 3/11/12 9:16 PM, Chad J wrote:
I remember doing colored terminal output in
On 13 March 2012 16:02, bcs b...@example.com wrote:
On 03/12/2012 03:17 AM, Alix Pexton wrote:
On 11/03/2012 16:49, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for a D grammar in (E)BNF form. Did any of you write
something like that or do you think I can use the grammar parts on
dlang.org?
On 13 March 2012 16:10, Simen Kjærås simen.kja...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:50:49 +0100, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:07:06 +0100, Walter Bright
On 3/12/12 8:15 PM, Stewart Gordon wrote:
On 11/03/2012 23:54, Walter Bright wrote:
Consider the toHash() function for struct key types:
http://dlang.org/hash-map.html
And of course the others:
const hash_t toHash();
const bool opEquals(ref const KeyType s);
const int opCmp(ref const KeyType
On 3/12/12 10:36 PM, James Miller wrote:
I agree, automatic generation of the grammar rules would be incredibly
useful for D tools. It doesn't necessarily have to be in a
human-readable format, or even in a specific grammar format, just up
to date. We can always have something to convert it into
On 03/12/2012 10:37 PM, James Miller wrote:
I think the problem with putting it into formatting is that it is
inherently not output. IOW formatting should go anywhere, but colored
output is terminal-only.
Also, there are differences between terminals and all sorts of crap
that just make this
On 13 March 2012 16:47, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/12/12 10:36 PM, James Miller wrote:
I agree, automatic generation of the grammar rules would be incredibly
useful for D tools. It doesn't necessarily have to be in a
human-readable format, or even in a
On 13-03-2012 05:00, James Miller wrote:
On 13 March 2012 16:47, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/12/12 10:36 PM, James Miller wrote:
I agree, automatic generation of the grammar rules would be incredibly
useful for D tools. It doesn't necessarily have to be in a
On 03/12/2012 08:32 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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On Monday, 12 March 2012 at 23:23:13 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
at the end of the day, you're still saying fuck you to millions of
people.
On 03/12/2012 11:58 PM, Chad J wrote:
On 03/12/2012 10:37 PM, James Miller wrote:
I think the problem with putting it into formatting is that it is
inherently not output. IOW formatting should go anywhere, but colored
output is terminal-only.
Also, there are differences between terminals and
On 03/12/2012 10:58 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:17:22PM -0400, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 01:50:29 Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 00:25:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
But that's a decision based on your needs as a website
On 3/12/12 11:03 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
On 13-03-2012 05:00, James Miller wrote:
On 13 March 2012 16:47, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote:
On 3/12/12 10:36 PM, James Miller wrote:
I agree, automatic generation of the grammar rules would be incredibly
useful for
On 13 March 2012 16:58, Chad J chadjoan@__spam.is.bad__gmail.com wrote:
On 03/12/2012 10:37 PM, James Miller wrote:
I think the problem with putting it into formatting is that it is
inherently not output. IOW formatting should go anywhere, but colored
output is terminal-only.
Also, there
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The phrase in web
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 04:24:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
2. On the web, animation means JS.
css3 does animations that are pretty easy to use,
degrade well, and tend to be fast. Moreover css
is where it belongs anyway - it is pure presentation.
Far, far superior to the JS crap.
On 13 March 2012 17:23, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
1. Such animations need to be *FAST*. We're talking roughly 250ms max
(probably even less, but I'd have to play around with it to refresh my
memory). Most UI animations are slower than this (particularly on the web -
although many DVDs are
On 03/13/2012 01:29 AM, James Miller wrote:
On 13 March 2012 17:07, Ary Manzanaa...@esperanto.org.ar wrote:
On 03/12/2012 08:32 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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On Monday, 12 March 2012 at
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 04:07:08 UTC, Ary Manzana wrote:
The implementation is straightforward (much more if I use
something like knockoutjs): I post the comment to the server
via javascript and on the callback, turn that editing comment
into a definitive comment.
It is *equally*
On 3/12/12 3:37 AM, Manu wrote:
On 12 March 2012 04:44, Andrei Alexandrescu
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wrote:
On 3/11/12 6:30 PM, Manu wrote:
D should
define an MRV ABI which is precisely the ABI for passing
multiple args
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On 03/12/2012 10:58 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
The problem today is that JS is the next cool thing, so everyone is
jumping on the bandwagon, and everything from a single-page personal
website to a list of
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:58:18PM -0400, bearophile wrote:
Walter:
Good question. What do you suggest?
I suggest to follow a slow but reliable path, working bottom-up: turn
to!string()/text()/format() into pure+nothrow functions, and then
later require toString to be pure+nothrow and to
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 05:27:27AM +0100, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 04:24:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
2. On the web, animation means JS.
css3 does animations that are pretty easy to use,
degrade well, and tend to be fast. Moreover css
is where it belongs anyway -
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:35:54PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
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[...]
All I'm saying is that if it makes sense for the web developer to
use javascript given what they're
On 13 March 2012 17:31, Ary Manzana a...@esperanto.org.ar wrote:
Ideally, you don't have to detect for javascript, you just have to
*shock horror* code to web standards.
--
James Miller
But the non-javascript version is a worse user experience, and it's less
efficient. Why not make it
On 03/13/2012 12:15 AM, James Miller wrote:
On 13 March 2012 16:58, Chad Jchadjoan@__spam.is.bad__gmail.com wrote:
On 03/12/2012 10:37 PM, James Miller wrote:
I think the problem with putting it into formatting is that it is
inherently not output. IOW formatting should go anywhere, but
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 06:13:53PM +1300, James Miller wrote:
[...]
This isn't some JS vs NoJS debate, this is JS-only vs Progressive
Enhancement. And for the record, GMail has a HTML-only version, and
most of the other products work, if with reduced functionality,
without javascript. I just
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But the non-javascript version is a worse user experience, and it's less
efficient. Why not make it well from scratch?
Because it's trivially easy to do, and it *is* a better experience than: a
user
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 03:17:42PM +1300, James Miller wrote:
On 13 March 2012 15:17, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:
We could start off with said module just doing colors for now, and
then gradually add more stuff to it later.
We could end up at a D-flavoured ncurses library!
On 3/12/2012 10:58 PM, Chad J wrote:
On 03/12/2012 10:37 PM, James Miller wrote:
I do want to be able to format things besides color with the color
formatting function. Maybe I can pick out the color format specifiers
first and then pass the rest to format. It'd be a shame to reimplement
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On Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 04:24:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
2. On the web, animation means JS.
css3 does animations that are pretty easy to use,
degrade well, and tend to be fast.
On 13 March 2012 18:24, Chad J chadjoan@__spam.is.bad__gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure I agree with resetting to a default color. What if I want to
write to the stream without altering the terminal's graphics settings?
Actually, I meant more to make sure that any output is reset to the
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:10:20AM +0100, Simen Kjærås wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:50:49 +0100, Nick Sabalausky a@a.a wrote:
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D is great for physics programming. Now you can have much, much more
than 26 variables :)
True, though mostly, you'd just change to using greek letters, right?
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:10:14PM -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
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I'd love to embed a D parser inside Phobos, even though it's not the
implementation used inside the compiler.
[...]
That will *certainly* be a big bonus. It will open up the opportunity
for many, many user-contributed
On 03/13/2012 01:41 AM, James Miller wrote:
On 13 March 2012 18:24, Chad Jchadjoan@__spam.is.bad__gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure I agree with resetting to a default color. What if I want to
write to the stream without altering the terminal's graphics settings?
Actually, I meant more to make
On 2012-03-11 22:12, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Sunday, March 11, 2012 13:13:58 Jacob Carlborg wrote:
Yeah, exactly. And it feels a bit stupid to duplicate the assert
statement just to throw something that isn't an AssertError.
Not to say that it's what you have to do, but I _would_ point
The following fails, which I guess is a bug?
import std.algorithm;
void main() {
char[] a = ['a', 'b', 'c'];
sort(a);
}
I thought maybe I'd report it -- sort of surprises me that it hasn't
been reported before, but I couldn't find it (although I found some
similar reports) in
On 2012-03-11 21:14:59 +, Jonathan M Davis said:
So, as far as Phobos' unit tests are concerned, there's not really any
need for what you're trying to do.
Sure. Just would have thought that maybe some unit-testing D user out
there had written a function that wrote something to a file
On 12.03.2012 16:51, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote:
The following fails, which I guess is a bug?
import std.algorithm;
void main() {
char[] a = ['a', 'b', 'c'];
sort(a);
}
I thought maybe I'd report it -- sort of surprises me that it hasn't
been reported before, but I couldn't find it (although I
Magnus Lie Hetland:
The following fails, which I guess is a bug?
import std.algorithm;
void main() {
char[] a = ['a', 'b', 'c'];
sort(a);
}
It's not a bug, char is meant to be a UTF-8. Two workarounds:
import std.algorithm;
void main() {
dchar[] a1 = ['a', 'b', 'c'];
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:03:43 -0500, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote:
On 2012-03-09 20:06, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
In what way? Yes, they're _catchable_, but everything that was on the
unwound
portion of the stack is now in an undefined state. So, recovering from
the
AssertError and
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:09:02 -0500, Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com
wrote:
On Friday, March 09, 2012 22:48:25 Timon Gehr wrote:
On 03/09/2012 10:43 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
...
Jonathan is just speculating. And I think he is wrong.
Speculating about what?
- Jonathan M Davis
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