Joe Ivey w4jsi wrote:
You know what the answer to your post is.
I have to agree with another post that said really all you want
to do is make more room for ALE.
Hi Joe,
No, I'm serious... Joe, how would you call another ham on the air?
Because right now, you have to admit, the simple
Bill W6WRT wrote:
Our hobby is about generating, transmitting and receiving
RF energy. It is a hobby of technical and operating expertise.
Hi Bill,
With all your technical and operating expertise, you're stumped?
Bonnie KQ6XA
Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to
Hi Mark,
That was fun to make the ALE link and QSO with you today.
It was surprising because your signal was very near the
noise level.
The 8FSK DTM ARQ seemed to work OK for text keyboarding
back and forth.
I'm glad you got your ALE system running there, and it is a
pleasure to be your
This post illustrates what I consider to be the essence of the
self-centered approach Bonnie and her group are taking. My comments are
interspersed below.
At 02:29 AM 8/26/2006 +, you wrote:
Have you ever had a visitor to your ham shack... and they ask if you
can call up another ham who
Bonnie,
Thanks. I found the definions for the
AMD automatic message display
DBM data block message
DTM data text message
It is interesting that you say that we were using 8FSK, I have observed the
eight orthogonal tones on my waterfall before, and didn't know exactly what
was producing them.
So what is techincal about this thread at this point. Dave, you are
wasting bandwidth here.
Can we get back on topic, please?
Chuck, AA5J
At 11:22 PM 8/25/2006, you wrote:
Amateur radio began with the randomness of chance QSOs -- you
remember CQ, don't you? Its not exactly honest to claim
Hi Mark,
Welcome to the world of ALE acty.
DBM is the killer 8FSK protocol from the standard. Its raw speed is
125 baud but deeply interleaved which has it neck and neck with its
kissing cousin GTOR for throughput. The BRD (FEC) selection is very
robust and the ARQ is just great. It supports
Hi again,
Sorry for replying to my own post, but I've just found this new-ish
article on the IEEE Computer Society site which may make the topic
more accessible:
http://www.computer.org/portal/site/dsonline/menuitem.
3a529f3832e8f1e13587e0606bcd45f3/index.jsp?
At this time I am not sure what G4GUO is
planning for PC-ALE in this regard. However under current FCC Part 97
Rules, ALE can be used in the digital sub bands for two-way digital
data comm and in the Voice sub bands for SELCAL (and more but not
digital data comm) and of course Digital Voice
The asnwer is ... yes.
I can call several hams on the local repeater, on the more private 440
frequency, on a slightly more distant repeater, and of course on HF on
the local frequency. Local means within a few hundred miles. Oh yes,
there is also another HF frequency for the AM folks, and
Running a laptop under emergency conditions is not that practical other
than for short duration events. If you want to have ALE available you
need to keep the software running or else the ALE selcal would be
missed. For regular communications with AC power, then no problem. The
ALE antenna
Bonnie claimed that amateur radio had devolved to random QSOs. Since
amateur radio began with random QSOs and random QSOs remain a
significant component of amateur communications today, that claim is
false. If the original post was on topic, then correcting its factual
errors must also be on
And I suppose that nit-picking every statement made by others on the reflector
is to be considered responsible behavior? GIVE ME A BREAK!
73,
Chuck
At 01:19 PM 8/26/2006, you wrote:
Bonnie claimed that amateur radio had devolved to random QSOs. Since
amateur radio began with random QSOs and
Hi Rick,
I just had to take a break from the .NET C++ compiler to reply to
this one, day job work and other demands have slow my responses the
past few days, although I will try to reply some of the other
messages flying about if I can make the time
At 12:40 PM 8/26/2006, you
A misstatement of that magnitude is hardly a nit. Its a foundation of
her argument!
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
And I suppose that nit-picking every statement made by others on
the reflector
is to be considered
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hajducek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
The ALE antenna issue is a major one for either portable or fixed
though.
How's that?
I have a NVIS antenna that above that range starts to look like a
random wire with gain that is a 125 foot dipole make of
Hi Dave, Most of the 2-5 per second is receiving remember. The LDG
AT-200PC computer-controlled tuner is pretty much the accepted standard for
MARS-ALE, and support is built-in the program. You pre-tune the frequencies
you will be transmitting on, and store the setting for each freq. When
At 11:26 AM 8/26/2006, you wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steve Hajducek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
The ALE antenna issue is a major one for either portable or fixed
though.
How's that?
I have a NVIS antenna that above that range starts to look like a
random wire with
Yes, I understand that the 2-5 per second rate is for receiving, but
you presumably must retune when switching from one band to another.
If the tuner takes 500ms to retrieve its settings, how do you
accomplish a 5 per second rate?
A low fan dipole might give you good local multiband coverage
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:10:49 -0500, John Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are going to operate Amtor or Pactor ARQ mode
you will be better with a TNC. Otherwise for the sound card
mode you will not need it.
ok, IC736 running the rig with HRD from an Intel Pent 4 via CI-V interface
USB
Hey Bill,
You know, this is a group that is focused primary on serious technical issues.
A simple google search on you reveals your fairly wide participation in various
groups that marks you as a fairly good enabler for threads that ultimately end
up as . flames. Bill, don't do that to this
For communication between two ham radio stations to exist,
some type of starting point is required.
In ham radio, the importance of this fundamental initial
starting point has gradually been lost, while heavy emphasis
has been placed upon the body of the communication or the
technique of the
Here's a technique that can be used with PSK31 or PSK63.
WinWarbler has the ability to decode all PSK31 or PS63 QSOs within a
3 khz band segment. It further has the ability to decode each QSO to
extract the two callsigns involved (or the fact that one station is
calling CQ or CQ DX). Using
Another approach is the Who's on the Air? database, which is under
development. See
http://www.wotadb.org/
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, expeditionradio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For communication between two ham radio stations to exist,
some type of
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