Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-09 01:15, todd rme a écrit : On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Marc Paré wrote: But it is important to keep in mind the distributions' own release policies. Many distributions do not allow non-security-related updates over the course of a single release cycle. This allows them to t

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-09 01:01, NoOp a écrit : On 10/08/2010 09:24 PM, Marc Paré wrote: ... Oops, I am not sure how long it takes for the process to remove me. I just got my posted message through the mailist. Still not un-subscribed yet. I'll give it another 15 minutes or so. Marc My guess is that it

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Marc Paré wrote: >> >> But it is important to keep in mind the distributions' own release >> policies.  Many distributions do not allow non-security-related >> updates over the course of a single release cycle.  This allows them >> to thoroughly test a given combin

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/08/2010 09:24 PM, Marc Paré wrote: ... > Oops, I am not sure how long it takes for the process to remove me. I > just got my posted message through the mailist. Still not un-subscribed > yet. I'll give it another 15 minutes or so. > > Marc > My guess is that it didn't work & that you'll

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
But it is important to keep in mind the distributions' own release policies. Many distributions do not allow non-security-related updates over the course of a single release cycle. This allows them to thoroughly test a given combination of software. Having the distribution release one set of p

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Marc Paré wrote: >>> >>> Would you then have any idea if this would cause a lot of devoted dev t im >> >> e, >>> >>> part-time, full-time attention. Would LibO then have to have a dedicate d >> >> dev >>> >>> in charge of this? >>> >>> Marc >> >> I doubt it would r

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-09 00:15, Marc Paré a écrit : Questions for Marc (and others on the list: 1. are you also subscribed to the list via the standard email discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org? Hi Gary, I was and just this minute un-subscribed. I like being subscribed as I like to guage the traffi

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Questions for Marc (and others on the list: 1. are you also subscribed to the list via the standard email discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org? Hi Gary, I was and just this minute un-subscribed. I like being subscribed as I like to guage the traffic on the mailist. I usually delete (zero

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/08/2010 07:40 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-08 20:33, NoOp a écrit : >> On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> finally, this list is also available via GMANE: >>> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss >>> >>> Florian >>> >> >> Working? >> >

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-08 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote: >> [snip] >> VLC TestTool is a great tool to assure the quality of the branches >> and releases. It helps avoiding regressions and makes the repetitive >> tasks for us. >> > Hi Caio, all, > > yeah, I think you nic

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Would you then have any idea if this would cause a lot of devoted dev tim e, part-time, full-time attention. Would LibO then have to have a dedicated dev in charge of this? Marc I doubt it would require a full-time developer, since changes would only need to be made when a new version of o

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 20:33, NoOp a écrit : On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? Works for me on Thunderbird as my newsreader. Marc -- To unsubscribe,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Website suggestion...

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 08.10.2010 um 22:49 schrieb Charles Marcus: > But I currently get a 404 error... this should be a page containing > information for all of the lists ie, dupe the stuff about the lists on > this page: thanks - have fixed that! Florian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@docu

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Varun, Am 09.10.2010 um 00:35 schrieb Varun Mittal: > I am ready to continue to do the moderation for all the mailing lists of > Libre Office just like I used to do for OO.o lists thanks a lot! Which of our current lists do you want to moderate? We have a few of them and you should be subscri

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
It does for me? Am 09.10.2010 um 02:33 schrieb NoOp: > Working? -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- To unsubscribe, e-ma

Re: [tdf-discuss] SOLVED: Unsubscribe link broken

2010-10-08 Thread Goran Rakic
У суб, 09. 10 2010. у 02:21 +0200, Bernhard Dippold пише: > Please have a look at the footer of the mail. Thank you, it looks great. Keeping the users happy in the new decade :) Goran -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list wil

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-08 17:22, todd rme a écrit : >> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Marc Paré  wrote: >>> >>> Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : 2010/10/8 Scott Furry: > > And that's why I was asking about whether it was possible to

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > finally, this list is also available via GMANE: > http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss > > Florian > Working? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to th

Re: [tdf-discuss] SOLVED: Unsubscribe link broken

2010-10-08 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Goran, all, Goran Rakic schrieb: [...] As this can confuse other people, and we should try to make unsubscribe for people as easy as possible to avoid angry emails, can we just drop some words to make it fit in a single line: To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.o

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Varun Mittal
Hi Florian, I am ready to continue to do the moderation for all the mailing lists of Libre Office just like I used to do for OO.o lists Regards Varun Mittal Moderator Marketing Project Mailing Lists[all] www.OpenOffice.org Google

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 17:22, todd rme a écrit : On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : 2010/10/8 Scott Furry: And that's why I was asking about whether it was possible to have repositories on the documentfoundation.org servers. Users of Debian (and it

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 14:38 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Am 08.10.2010 um 10:13 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: > > >> I believe this should be prevented. I just found in docs that there > is > >> a SPAMMODE option: > >> http://mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/spammode.html > > >

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : >> >> 2010/10/8 Scott Furry: >>> >>> And that's why I was asking about whether it was possible to have >>> repositories on the documentfoundation.org servers. >>> Users of Debian (and its derivatives) could pu

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 16:06 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Am 06.10.2010 um 23:17 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: > > > I am happy to moderate the documentation list, which I just joined. I > > have list moderation experience and I will definitely be following that > > list. :-) > > than

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-08 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 20:29 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Jean! > > Am Freitag, den 08.10.2010, 06:28 +1000 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: > > It's okay with me! I wrote a blog post too (in addition to my note to > > the list), but it's nice to be quoted in someone else's blog. :-) > > > > http:

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Furry
On 08/10/10 03:06 PM, Marc Paré wrote: I had not heard of Go-OO ( http://go-oo.org ) before until this discussion thread. Visiting their page, it seems like they have the kind of distribution model that we could leverage. Are you talking of the "Universal Linux" on this page? http://go-oo.org/

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:58 PM, jonathon wrote: > On 10/08/2010 06:53 PM, RGB ES wrote: > >> The kind of stuff you find on kde-look.org weights no more than some >> hundreds of KiB (maybe, a bit more of a MiB but usually a lot less) >> while a normal LibO install is near 170 MiB... > > Is the open

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread jonathon
On 10/08/2010 06:54 PM, Goran Rakic wrote: > why don't you write all the names of all contributors, both individuals and companies, translators, etc? The various pieces of paperwork that people that contributed to OOo had to sign, gave all of the rights to Sun. As such, Sun is/was the copyright

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 17:00, Scott Furry a écrit : On 08/10/10 02:53 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : Would this be a security headache? Could this work for the average user? Does this not seem a convenience for the end-user community at large? Others could mirror this reposi

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Furry
On 08/10/10 02:53 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : Would this be a security headache? Could this work for the average user? Does this not seem a convenience for the end-user community at large? Others could mirror this repository, but this would be the "upstream sour

[tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-08 Thread Mounier Jacques
Hello everyone on this list, I want to congratulate you for the courage you have shown in creating this new project. It is possible to have some rumors about LibO roadmap? What are the criteria for development? Issue Tracker (Number of votes and/ or Age)? Comparison with the competitors (MsOffic

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 16:47, RGB ES a écrit : 2010/10/8 Scott Furry: And that's why I was asking about whether it was possible to have repositories on the documentfoundation.org servers. Users of Debian (and its derivatives) could put "apt.documentfoundation.o rg" into their sources.list file and ther

[tdf-discuss] Website suggestion...

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
At the bottom of every email is the list info stuff, including: List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ It is very common (I do it all the time) when clicking links like this that I'll delete the rightmost part in the Location bar, so I'd end up here: List

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 Scott Furry : > And that's why I was asking about whether it was possible to have > repositories on the documentfoundation.org servers. > Users of Debian (and its derivatives) could put "apt.documentfoundation.o rg" > into their sources.list file and there would be a one-stop shop for tha

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 4:40 PM, Volker Heggemann wrote: > same problem at my side. I couldn't get out of the digest list?! > I don't know why? Can y ou explain in detail what you did, and what failed? I only tested the normal list, not the digest, but... I just subbed to the digest list, then unsubbed, n

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Furry
On 08/10/10 02:32 PM, RGB ES wrote: Software repositories managed by system applications (yum, libzipp... whatever) ARE an unified upgrade system, reliable, secure and fast that simplify your life. You just need online storage capacity and someone who build the packages, but that someone do not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Volker Heggemann
Hi Florian, same problem at my side. I couldn't get out of the digest list?! I don't know why? regards Volker Heggemann -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are a

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 Marc Paré : > Do you know what the reasons were for not using these? It would seem to m ake > sense that you would want to free up dev work and try to unify an upgrade > process for everyone. > Because at the end of the day, they do not work. Just one word: dependencies. If you try to ins

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 15:59, RGB ES a écrit : Thanks. I am a little confused. So are you saying that packaging LibO in such a way as to be able to use the opendesktop.org system is not possible? Everything is possible... but that does not means it is desirable. You always need to use the right tool for

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 jonathon : > Is the opendesktop.org type proposal for the entire program, or just for > the extensions, dictionaries, galleries, extensions, language packs, > grammar checkers, and other addons? > I think people here is talking about the upgrade process. On that case I must say: no, use a

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
> Thanks. I am a little confused. So are you saying that packaging LibO in > such a way as to be able to use the opendesktop.org system is not possible? > Everything is possible... but that does not means it is desirable. You always need to use the right tool for the job, and nothing beat a good re

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread jonathon
On 10/08/2010 06:53 PM, RGB ES wrote: > The kind of stuff you find on kde-look.org weights no more than some > hundreds of KiB (maybe, a bit more of a MiB but usually a lot less) > while a normal LibO install is near 170 MiB... Is the opendesktop.org type proposal for the entire program, or just

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 14:53, RGB ES a écrit : 2010/10/8 Marc Paré: So just to simplify it for those who are like me and who do not realize t he process behind the opendesktop.org update system (I'll use KDE4.5.X as an example): *** please correct these if I am wrong *** If you want to update your wal

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 14:53, goldf...@aol.in a écrit : Hi Guys, If people are having trouble with pronouncing "Libre" then I propose we fondly call LibreOffice "LO". What do you Guys think of "LO"? Best regards, Paul Most are using LibO for now. Marc Note: Please bottom post on the mailist. --

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 3:14 PM, Olav Dahlum wrote: > On 08/10/10 20:37, Charles Marcus wrote: >> A good place to start might be with the custom icon pack developed by >> ed2 on the Issue Tracker for this open Issue (see the final version, the >> past attachment in the list): >> >> http://www.openoffice.org

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 15:07, Scott Furry a écrit : As todd rme has suggested, there exists automated packaging tools. I had not run across that in my readings. I don't use openSUSE, but good to know. My original suggestions regarding a separate repository had been meant to avoid 'package purgatory' wher

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 08/10/10 17:29, todd rme wrote: > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as >> Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the >> default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogeth

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 11:35 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > users installing from source don't need no update management at all > - they can just "git pull" & rebuild. Especially on Linux, this > gives you bleeding edge LibO everytime you like - e.g.: Well... different users have different skill levels, but

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 08/10/10 20:37, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-10-08 10:53 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote: >> I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as >> Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in >> the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also >

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 08/10/10 20:15, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Olav, > > just a short note concerning the icons - yes, icons are a very visible > way of changing the look and the overall appearance of the office suite. > I also hope that we will be possible to have some coordinated effort to > improve them - e.g.

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Scott Furry
As todd rme has suggested, there exists automated packaging tools. I had not run across that in my readings. I don't use openSUSE, but good to know. My original suggestions regarding a separate repository had been meant to avoid 'package purgatory' where the distributions would relegate LibO

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Goran Rakic
У пет, 08. 10 2010. у 20:46 +0200, Volker Merschmann пише: > >> Technically, it needs to read > >> > >> << Copyright © 1999 StarOffice GmHz; > >> Copyright © 2000 Sun INC, > If you are not accepting transfer of copyright rights that was eventually made to Oracle in 2010, why don't you write all

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-08 Thread goldfish
Hi Guys, If people are having trouble with pronouncing "Libre" then I propose we fondly call LibreOffice "LO". What do you Guys think of "LO"? Best regards, Paul PS Read below to see what I mean: http://www.computerworld.com/comments/node/9188338#comment-665135 In my country (NL) the name Su

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread RGB ES
2010/10/8 Marc Paré : > So just to simplify it for those who are like me and who do not realize t he > process behind the opendesktop.org update system (I'll use KDE4.5.X as an > example): *** please correct these if I am wrong *** > > If you want to update your wallpaper, you can right-click on th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, 2010/10/8 Peter Hillier-Brook : > On 08/10/2010 18:09, jonathon wrote: >> >> On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's  correct, is it? >> >>> Its the very first beta being offered,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 10:53 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote: > I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as > Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in > the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also > taking into consideration that we'll need acce

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-08 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Jean! Am Freitag, den 08.10.2010, 06:28 +1000 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: > It's okay with me! I wrote a blog post too (in addition to my note to > the list), but it's nice to be quoted in someone else's blog. :-) > > http://www.taming-openoffice-org.com/newsite/?p=1213 Sorry, I didn't notic

Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread jonathon
On 10/08/2010 05:18 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > the Document Foundation does not take the copyright of its contributors . So we should not be listed as copyright owners. Document Foundation has a copyright in the selection of the code that is used for the specific version of the program. This

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Todd! Am Freitag, den 08.10.2010, 11:29 -0400 schrieb todd rme: > This may be a silly question, by why do you need an icon theme at all? > Wouldn't you normally want to use the native icon theme if at all > possible? Or are there platforms that do not provide native themes? I hope that I un

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
As I mentioned before, the opendesktop.org website like kde-look.org, gnome-apps.org, InkscapeStuff.org, and so on seem to be a better way, to me, to distribute extensions, templates, and other add-ons. The websites are specifically designed for this, and they implement a freedesktop.org standar

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 08/10/2010 18:09, jonathon wrote: On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things wo uld be missed... Unless -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Olav, just a short note concerning the icons - yes, icons are a very visible way of changing the look and the overall appearance of the office suite. I also hope that we will be possible to have some coordinated effort to improve them - e.g. why not partner with the Tango3 team? However, please

RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hey Jonathon, Welcome to this list. There is one thing which also needs to be understood and mentioned: the Document Foundation does not take the copyright of its contributors. So we should not be listed as copyright owners. Charles. Le 8 oct. 2010, 7:10 PM, "jonathon" a écrit : On 10/08/2010 0

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 09:33, Charles Marcus a écrit : On 2010-10-08 8:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Just put the "Libre Offie" (notice the space in between) in the large window and change the language to "English" ("anglais) and you will get the right pronunciation in English. But there is no space in the o

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread jonathon
On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Copyright © 2000, 2010 >> Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. >> Don't think it's correct, is it? > Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things wo uld be missed... > Unless - maybe legally the copyrights ha

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 08/10/10 17:29, todd rme wrote: > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as >> Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the >> default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogeth

Re: [tdf-discuss] tech team for tdf communication services

2010-10-08 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Friedrich, A short mobile answer: I propose that you subscribe to the website mailing list. There, such topics waren / will be handled. Cheers, Christoph Florian Effenberger schrieb: >Hi Friedrich, > >Am 08.10.2010 um 11:36 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: > >> I wonder who does all the work

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Gianluca Turconi, *, Gianluca Turconi schrieb: [..] >Therefore, I had to unsubscribe form all TDF lists, create a new > address for these lists and then subscribe to them again. Woff... :( Too late! You missed the train. Your old (former good) mailadress is online - well prepared food for th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles Marcus wrote: > 2. one use case that may occur more often than you think - those power > users that install from source, thus totally bypassing their package > management system. > Hi Charles, users installing from source don't need no update management at all - they can just "git pull" &

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Olav Dahlum wrote: >  Hi. > > I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as > Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the > default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking > into consideration th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Olav, Olav Dahlum wrote (08-10-10 16:53) I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking into consideration that we'll need accessibl

[tdf-discuss] Re: Support from Turkish Linux Users Association and OOo community

2010-10-08 Thread Deniz Öğüt
Hi, The support declared alongwith a Turkish translation of the letter on the main page of OpenOffice.org Turkey: http://www.openoffice.org.tr/ Regards, Deniz On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Deniz Öğüt wrote: > Dear Friends, > > OpenOffice.org – Turkey and Linux Users' Association – Tu rkey s

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread todd rme
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Scott Furry wrote: > -> Package Maintainers (I like 'specialists' but let's use the term people > recognize) can build and distribute both installs and updates to different > OS users. We are respecting the OS and working on the OS in a way with which > people get t

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Benjamin Horst
On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Scott Furry wrote: > > Unfortunately, AFAICR only one Mac user identified them self and commented on > this topic. So apologies to the Mac User crowd (I now you're out there > somewhere) ;-) ... > I would very much like to hear from the community on this one (and you

[tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
Hi. I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking into consideration that we'll need accessible ones conforming to accessibility standar

[tdf-discuss] Proposal for a more updated and modern standard icon theme.

2010-10-08 Thread Olav Dahlum
Hi. I know a lot of you is emotionally attached to older icon themes as Tango, but isn't it about time we made some refreshing changes in the default theme? Like proposing a new theme altogether. But also taking into consideration that we'll need accessible ones conforming to accessibility standa

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
2010/10/8 Charles Marcus > On 2010-10-08 10:27 AM, El Cico wrote: > > If I go to help-->About LibreOffice I see: > > > > LibreOffice 3.3.0 > > > > OOO330m7 (Build:9526) > > ooo-build 2010-09-24 > > > > Copyright © 2000, 2010 > > Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. > > > > Don't thi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Charles Marcus wrote: Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things would be missed... Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to stay (hope not)? It has to stay. :) -- Tempesta e Passione sbarcano su Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Sturm-Drang-Gianluca-Turconi/dp/B

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 10:27 AM, El Cico wrote: > If I go to help-->About LibreOffice I see: > > LibreOffice 3.3.0 > > OOO330m7 (Build:9526) > ooo-build 2010-09-24 > > Copyright © 2000, 2010 > Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. > > Don't think it's > correct, is it? Its the very first beta

[tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?

2010-10-08 Thread El Cico
Hi all, Don't know if this is the right list to post to... anyway... If I go to help-->About LibreOffice I see: LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m7 (Build:9526) ooo-build 2010-09-24 Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? Ciao cico

[tdf-discuss] Support from Turkish Linux Users Association and OOo community

2010-10-08 Thread Deniz Öğüt
Dear Friends, OpenOffice.org – Turkey and Linux Users' Association – Turk ey sent a joint letter to The Document Foundation stating that those two bodies are supporting The Open Document Foundation and LibreOffice. The letter is publicly announced as well. For a PDF copy of the letter: http://www

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 10:01 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > I had short ones, then I was asked to have longer ones. The problem is > that everyone has different preferences, and no matter what we decide, > "the others" have to live with that. Tough task ;) Another thing I'd like to see - for things lik

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, and you're in! Florian Am 06.10.2010 um 20:56 schrieb Mike Houben: > Mhhh okay :D Found the subscription mail in my send box, but postbox didn't > send them now i know why i didn't receive anythin. > > i like the website list! -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 06.10.2010 um 23:17 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: > I am happy to moderate the documentation list, which I just joined. I > have list moderation experience and I will definitely be following that > list. :-) thanks a lot, you're in! Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and F

Re: [tdf-discuss] Moderators needed

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 07.10.2010 um 19:43 schrieb Nguyen Vu Hung: > Let me moderate @qa, l10n@ and l10n-vi@ please. > > # l10n-vi@ does not exist yet, can you please create that for us? > (Vietnamese team) qa und local lists don't exist yet. Will work on them soon, asking for moderators then again. :) Just ad

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread usonaulo-pete
--- On Fri, 10/8/10, Florian Effenberger wrote: > From: Florian Effenberger > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!! > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org > Cc: "Ian Whitfield" > Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 9:29 AM > Hi Ian, > > > PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Charles, Am 08.10.2010 um 15:55 schrieb Charles Marcus: > Understood... and I'm not even sure MM2 has the ability to have per user > subject tags. don't know either at the moment... it has a lot of user prefs, but don't know exactly which ones. > I know there are lots of improvements for the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 9:29 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both lists) Ian - the email you got was a confirmation that actually requires you to click the CONFIRMATION link in it - if you don't click the link, you won't be unsubscribed. -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 08 ottobre 2010 alle ore 15:36:44, Charles Marcus ha scritto: Security through obscurity doesn't work. If you have spam problems, use good anti-spam software. Well, indeed, spam should not be facilitated rather than managed via software after your address has been added to some ad

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 8:41 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: >> I'd really like the ability to set certain user prefs - like >> subject tags (I want to disable them), set my reply-to preference, >> etc... > no, that's not possible at the moment. We use mlmmj for good > reasons. Mailman has a lot of options

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *, Florian Effenberger schrieb: >Am 08.10.2010 um 10:13 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: >>> I believe this should be prevented. I just found in docs that there >>> a SPAMMODE option: >>> http://mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/spammode.html >> >> +1 >Honestly, I disagree. Hiding mail

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 8:38 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Honestly, I disagree. Hiding mail addresses really doesn't help that > much, and to me, the disadvantages (like being unable to contact > someone directly from the archives) are larger than the advantages > you think it has. > > I'm happy to swi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Document Foundation - list archive - emails in clear

2010-10-08 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Am 08.10.2010 um 10:13 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: > >>> I believe this should be prevented. I just found in docs that there > is >>> a SPAMMODE option: >>> http://mhonarc.org/MHonArc/doc/resources/spammode.html >> >> +1 >> > >

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 8:26 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Just put the "Libre Offie" (notice the space in between) in the large > window and change the language to "English" ("anglais) and you will get > the right pronunciation in English. But there is no space in the official name 'LibreOffice'. Of course I can

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 4:05 AM, Scott Furry wrote: > Hello all, > I'm thinking the its time to dig out of the weeds/details and make > this a more meaningful discussion for everyone [edit: about automated > updates]. > So,lets start with the Unix|Linux crowd: > -> Package Maintainers (I like 'specialists

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Ian, > PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both lists) > the system works, but I unsubscribed you manually right now from the discuss list. Which other list shall I unsubscribe you from? Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Ian Whitfield
Hi All Whoever is running this list PLEASE sort the Unsubscribe system out!! When I originally subscribed I got two automatic replies and the mail started to come in the next day - No problem However I find there is just too much traffic and decided to unsubscribe. I sent off two unsubscrib

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-08 Thread Cor Nouws
Charles Marcus wrote (08-10-10 14:28) 2. one use case that may occur more often than you think - those power users that install from source, thus totally bypassing their package management system. Inmho, #2 should be the deciding factor. If a user does this, then the native updater should be en

Re: [tdf-discuss] Hear the Google pronunciation of LibreOffice - Just for fun

2010-10-08 Thread Jussi Silvonen
Hi, 2010/10/8 Marc Paré > "LibreOffice". Should it sound more like "Libre Offiz" in Spanish? > > Marc Jep, this could be OK for me, JusSi -- Jussi Silvonen http://www.mendeley.com/profiles/jussi-silvonen/ http://mosapiha.wordpress.com/ http://silvonen.wordpress.com/ "Free software for free p

Re: [tdf-discuss] Shorter mailing list prefix?

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 07.10.2010 um 15:30 schrieb Charles Marcus: > I don't care what the list name itself is, I'm talking about the > [SUBJECT TAG]. So I'll reiterate - if these huge/long subject tags are > going to be implemented, please, please provide user customizable list > options so that users who don't

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