Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-17 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver at this point? Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? Marc-André Laverdière Software Security Scientist Innovation Labs, Tata Consultancy Services Hyderabad, India On 06/12/2011 02:19 AM,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-17 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:06:16PM +0530, Marc-André Laverdière wrote: Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver at this point? Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? Make that ODBC and perhaps JDBC. Having LibreOffice depending on a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-17 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 17/06/11 08:36, Marc-André Laverdière a écrit : Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver at this point? Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? Other than the fact that it would make LibreOffice even more dependent on Java

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-15 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 09:02:25PM -0700, aqualung wrote: Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section. Thanks for

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-12 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 12/06/11 03:04, Uwe Altmann a écrit : Hi Uwe, Adabas was bundeled only with StarOffice (never with OOo) - it was one of the Add-Ons Star Office had (besides more Gallery entries, templates and better spell checking then OOo) in former times. In former times refers to OOo 1.* when OOo

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux. The setup is not trivial, even for an

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited freeware version of the Adabas database engine. The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure if it is still used or if the free (as

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
Hi, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:40:43AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? Well I eventually managed to find a free

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Alex, Alexander Thurgood wrote (11-06-11 09:40) Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux. The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all Whoops - brave! Adabas

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 11/06/11 10:45, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ? I had a look at the official website here : http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp and there's no download link. Yeah, you have to

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 11/06/11 10:49, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, Very very few, I guess ;-) But imagine some deployment have an old DB of that type running on a server. Could well be, isn't it? Well the company say that there is a JDBC driver available, so even if direct support was pulled from LibO, it

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 11/06/11 10:54, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, Oh, I'm really indifferent about it; what I'm concerned about is the hardcoded list of platforms determining whether the client library is build or not. Agreed. I'd like to remove this list, and either build the adabas client

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:44:35AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section. Thanks for the tip, I'll have a

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: ... I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list and try to disable the Adabas D driver. Please don't. $ cat /etc/adabasrc DBROOT=/opt/adabas DBCONFIG=${DBCONFIG:-${HOME}/.adabas}

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 01:45 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: ... Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ? I had a look at the official website here : http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp and there's no download link. The Download free Adabas D

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list and try to disable the Adabas D driver. Please don't. $ cat /etc/adabasrc DBROOT=/opt/adabas [...] Does

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 11:02 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list and try to disable the Adabas D driver. Please don't. $

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948 I'm sorry but if this is only for an experiment, I

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 01:18:47PM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is proprietary crippleware at best. There are much better

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Uwe Altmann
Hi Alex, * Am 11.06.11 11:28, schrieb Alexander Thurgood: Agreed again. All platforms or nothing seems fair enough. I don't really understand why it was never made available for Mac, guess the owners of Adabas D never thought it was worthwhile. Adabas was bundeled only with StarOffice (never

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited freeware version of the Adabas database engine. The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure if it is still used or if the free (as

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Me again, In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited freeware version of the Adabas database engine. The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure if it is still used or if the free (as in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Alexander Thurgood wrote (10-06-11 17:27) If it is there in the code, it can not be seen anywhere in the UI that I know of, When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? Regards, -- - Cor -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Francois Tigeot
Hi Alex, On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 05:39:34PM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure if it is still used or if the free (as in beer) Adabas version is still available somewhere.

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, If it is there in the code, it can not be seen anywhere in the UI that I know of, When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? It is not available on the